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Offline JimmyB76

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Re: Evil & Canon Voyager Uniforms Mod
« Reply #20 on: June 05, 2007, 03:36:15 PM »
hmmmm im not so sure about goth-kiska...

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Re: Evil & Canon Voyager Uniforms Mod
« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2007, 03:52:21 PM »
here?s an update on the evil uniforms;

I have finished all the textures so far - if you have any improvement suggestions I would be glad to hear them.
I`m still not satisfied with Saffi - she?s still looking very harmless

Concerning the blurry spots, these are stretched textures - as you can see, the polygon models of the crew are not very detailed - they are edgy and sometimes missaligned.
There?s not much I can do about that...

The leather glove textures are actually taken from pictures of real gloves. They are not perfect, but I think they are sufficient for these models. At least you can recognize them as gloves.

Btw I?m still looking for someone who can give me a helping hand concerning the index-finger problem...

Meanwhile I will commence with the production of a mutator script.
Below are some more pics:

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Re: Evil & Canon Voyager Uniforms Mod
« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2007, 04:29:10 PM »
You could try to make Saffi look like she has a plasma burn scar on one side of her face or something. Im not sure if you can do that on these models but its just an idea off the top of my head.

Hope all goes well with making the evil uniforms mutator controlled. Will you also be making the Voyager uniforms mutator controlled aswell?

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Re: Evil & Canon Voyager Uniforms Mod
« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2007, 06:16:59 AM »
Your forgetting the customary "goatee" on evil males in Star Trek :P

Granted it wasnt seen on any of the evil males in the Voyager episode, but Spock had one in the Mirror-universe. Might look good on an evil crewmember.
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Re: Evil & Canon Voyager Uniforms Mod
« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2007, 08:56:39 AM »
the only crewmember who could wear a goatee would be Felix - Miguel is an android and Bolians have no hair at all.

However the problem is that a goatee requires the adding of a polygon extension on the chin otherwise it wouldn?t look realistic - I could try that but I have no clue how to open the model files.
Any suggestions?

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Re: Evil & Canon Voyager Uniforms Mod
« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2007, 09:31:37 AM »
the only crewmember who could wear a goatee would be Felix - Miguel is an android and Bolians have no hair at all.

However the problem is that a goatee requires the adding of a polygon extension on the chin otherwise it wouldn?t look realistic - I could try that but I have no clue how to open the model files.
Any suggestions?

Perhaps not, my goatee is actually cut pretty low... ;-)

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Re: Evil & Canon Voyager Uniforms Mod
« Reply #26 on: June 06, 2007, 11:06:08 AM »
the only crewmember who could wear a goatee would be Felix - Miguel is an android and Bolians have no hair at all.
put one on goth-kiska :P lol j/k

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Re: Evil & Canon Voyager Uniforms Mod
« Reply #27 on: June 06, 2007, 03:37:05 PM »
Status update on the uniforms mod:

I have finished the mutator scripts for both the canon and the evil uniforms - i have reworked the collars of all ingame characters to match the uniforms so that both mutators can be used in single player mode without any visual bugs.

Things that still need to be done:

Get rid of the index-finger problem on the gloves....
replace Saffi?s trill head with a more evil looking one....

Any help would be appreciated.
If these problems are worked out, I will release the mod and upload it to BCfiles.

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Re: Evil & Canon Voyager Uniforms Mod
« Reply #28 on: June 06, 2007, 05:03:07 PM »
You could make evil Saffi a klingon or even an ex-borg drone (pale skin, some kind of texture tht still shows an implant). Just a thought.

I meant to ask this earlier. Is this mod intended for just the bridge crew or is every Starfleet person in the game effected by this when the mutator for either uniform is activated? (evil Picard, evil Commander Graff etc as well as voyager uniform Picard, voyager uniform Commander Graff etc would rule)

If its just the bridge crew that is still awesome.

What else have you tried to fix the index finger problem?


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Re: Evil & Canon Voyager Uniforms Mod
« Reply #29 on: June 06, 2007, 05:40:30 PM »
awesome work dude, good job on the uniforms...

i for one liked that ep of voyager, i liked the idea that a war-like starfleet could exist in some universe...

nice paris and chakotay too...

the only thing that would irk me ever so slightly, and i do mean slightly, is the little too pronounced line from the collar down the front of the shirt...

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Re: Evil & Canon Voyager Uniforms Mod
« Reply #30 on: June 06, 2007, 07:56:47 PM »
@ SuperSmeg

all charakters have been redone with voyager & evil collars  - I have also changed the colors of some of the crewmen who appear on the bridge every now and then so that they are not exclusively gold.

the only problem is Admiral Liu who should actually wear a TNG Admirals uniform - I think the starfleet admirals never had Voyager style uniforms - in the first few seasons of ST DS9 they had the TNG uniforms and during the last 3 seasons Admiral Ross was seen in the First-Contact uniform with admirals badges and with gold decorated collar.

You?ll have to forgive me about that..  :lol:
Maybe I?ll try to make one from scratch someday - but this could take some time..

Concerning the gloves - problem I need someone who can tell me how to edit the NIF model of the male starfleet body and how to realign the textures on it.
As I said before, I have no experience or knowledge in 3D modelling.

Maybe someone could even do the required changes on the models for me and post the corrected NIF file here on the forums...
It?s not much work if you know how to do it....

below is another pic of the gloves error - the pink stripes you see should be black (with gloves textures applied)

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Re: Evil & Canon Voyager Uniforms Mod
« Reply #31 on: June 07, 2007, 09:46:12 AM »
I have downloaded NIFScope and I have managed to open the NIF body files but there are only dummy textures included with the models.
they are named head & body.tga
the script files in scripts/bridge/characters decide which textures are used in the game for each model.

I don?t have the time to figure this thing out all by myself - I?ll need some assistance from you guys... anyone?

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Re: Evil & Canon Voyager Uniforms Mod
« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2007, 03:53:03 PM »
Small update on the uniforms
I have played around with Saffi?s eyes a bit and I think she?s looking quite evil now.

I have to admit that red eyes are not a very creative idea but they have a very nice effect nonetheless.
They?re more Terminator style - lol

what do you think?

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Re: Evil & Canon Voyager Uniforms Mod
« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2007, 03:56:13 PM »
Yeap, she does, though i'm not fan of the red color, i like how you done Kiska's eyes.
As for nifskope, i don't know how it'll export the characters back to max, even with the new max plugins that were posted in the modding forums.
Best suggestion is to check twice the hand texture.

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Re: Evil & Canon Voyager Uniforms Mod
« Reply #34 on: June 08, 2007, 04:11:52 PM »
hmmm  ya i agree with LC on the red eyes lol  not sure they go well, tho you could add it in as a "gag" tho, as a seperate folder all its own with the mod, when complete lol :)  sort of like an "alternative" for those who would like to have it...

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Re: Evil & Canon Voyager Uniforms Mod
« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2007, 04:31:58 PM »
I know what you mean - I just had to do something with her blue eyes - blue eyes are inacceptable for an evil commander I think.

Thank god I made a backup of all the versions of evil Saffi - I will include an older version of Saffi (with evil look but without occular implant and red eyes) as the default model for the mod - in case you want to change it I will also include the red-eyed version.

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Re: Evil & Canon Voyager Uniforms Mod
« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2007, 04:45:04 PM »
Well, I for one never actually saw the episode, but the outfits look great, aside from the gloves thing. Great job.

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Re: Evil & Canon Voyager Uniforms Mod
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Re: Evil & Canon Voyager Uniforms Mod
« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2007, 05:19:18 PM »
Mustang - this is a synopsis of that ep:
http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/library/episodes/VOY/detail/72389.html

Since Voyager never had its own 'Mirror Universe' episode, this one is considered close enough and also one of my favourites. Its a good ep. Keep a look out for it (I cant watch Voyager anymore since Virgin Media were being b***munchers and took away the channel because it got too expensive).

Ramblings aside,
Looking forward to threse uniforms. I suggest that you make Saffi's head all borg. The Borg were evil by the way, why not have an ex-borg as a commander but as a punishment, her appearence wasnt ever changed  :D
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Re: Evil & Canon Voyager Uniforms Mod
« Reply #39 on: June 15, 2007, 12:10:36 PM »
just wondering if you fixed that problem with the finger? sorry i couldn't help. i think i need to get some modelling experience.