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Re: Nebula Bridge Retexture - Romulan Warbird Bridge
« Reply #40 on: December 17, 2008, 10:58:00 AM »
Agreed, those look much better.

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Re: Nebula Bridge Retexture - Romulan Warbird Bridge
« Reply #41 on: December 17, 2008, 11:00:20 AM »
 :shock: awesome  :shock:  the best romulan displays I've ever seen ;) keep it up

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Re: Nebula Bridge Retexture - Romulan Warbird Bridge
« Reply #42 on: December 17, 2008, 12:32:05 PM »
ya that is a great improvement :)
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Re: Nebula Bridge Retexture - Romulan Warbird Bridge
« Reply #43 on: December 17, 2008, 06:21:13 PM »
heres more clips of what i hope is the final thing

got the LCARS from Okudagrams.com

was the only decent source

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Re: Nebula Bridge Retexture - Romulan Warbird Bridge
« Reply #44 on: December 17, 2008, 08:24:22 PM »
I'd put a bit of panelling around the bottom of the forward consoles rather than just blank black, other than tht it looks great

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Re: Nebula Bridge Retexture - Romulan Warbird Bridge
« Reply #45 on: December 17, 2008, 08:46:55 PM »
I really hate to be the bearer of bad news (since this is looking so awesome) but the guy who owns that site gets very petty when LCARS, MSDs or whatever are used without his permission. I seem to remember someone else on this forum having a major spat with this guy becuase they used an MSD without asking.
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Re: Nebula Bridge Retexture - Romulan Warbird Bridge
« Reply #46 on: December 17, 2008, 09:56:51 PM »
I'd work a bit more on the environment. While great LCARS can make a set, the background is what compliments them.

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Re: Nebula Bridge Retexture - Romulan Warbird Bridge
« Reply #47 on: December 18, 2008, 12:16:11 AM »
I really hate to be the bearer of bad news (since this is looking so awesome) but the guy who owns that site gets very petty when LCARS, MSDs or whatever are used without his permission. I seem to remember someone else on this forum having a major spat with this guy becuase they used an MSD without asking.
Quite true. I'd pull of these images you posted and get permission right now before continuing. Also, Mr.
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why haven't you just made them yourself?

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Re: Nebula Bridge Retexture - Romulan Warbird Bridge
« Reply #48 on: December 18, 2008, 02:23:22 AM »
I really hate to be the bearer of bad news (since this is looking so awesome) but the guy who owns that site gets very petty when LCARS, MSDs or whatever are used without his permission. I seem to remember someone else on this forum having a major spat with this guy becuase they used an MSD without asking.
Quite true. I'd pull of these images you posted and get permission right now before continuing. Also, Mr.
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why haven't you just made them yourself?

i got the guys permission..

because although i am great at photoshop.. 1, had few references 2, i'm better at photo manipulation and other aspects of design

as for the set..not much i can do with it TBH, in regards to the walls anyway..because of how the 3rd era guys done the texturing

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Re: Nebula Bridge Retexture - Romulan Warbird Bridge
« Reply #49 on: December 18, 2008, 04:00:57 AM »
I really hate to be the bearer of bad news (since this is looking so awesome) but the guy who owns that site gets very petty when LCARS, MSDs or whatever are used without his permission. I seem to remember someone else on this forum having a major spat with this guy becuase they used an MSD without asking.
Quite true. I'd pull of these images you posted and get permission right now before continuing. Also, Mr.
expert in photoshop
why haven't you just made them yourself?

i got the guys permission..

because although i am great at photoshop.. 1, had few references 2, i'm better at photo manipulation and other aspects of design

as for the set..not much i can do with it TBH, in regards to the walls anyway..because of how the 3rd era guys done the texturing

Yeah the walls are mapped the same way as on Galaxy, Ambassador bridge tho from what I've seen in NEM or any ep. with romulans their bridges were very militaristic and mostly grey, thats why I kinda don't like those green under panells and lights... look on it that way - if the lights are green they should cast faint green light all around the room, in this set lights are dimm (good) but they obviously don't cast green light. IMHO you should change it to beige/white and leave gree for insignias and small details only.

oh and btw. I'll give you small advice ;) don't tell anyone you're great or expert in photoshop, the best way to prove you're an expert in PS is to make some great mods ;) or show some works ... no offence.
I never considered myself an expert in PS or PSP, it's community who judged my retextures as great and sometimes refered to me as 'one of the best LCARS' makers or 'TMP god' ... hehe good old days :D
so let the community judge your skills ;) that's friendly advice from one modder to another.

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Re: Nebula Bridge Retexture - Romulan Warbird Bridge
« Reply #50 on: December 18, 2008, 08:08:22 AM »
Nice job, whether self-professed PS god or no  :D  Proof is in the pudding.  Just curious about one thing tho: isn't there a Romulan crew/uniform mutator for BC?  Would give the bridge more authentic feel;  maybe inspire some other changes seeing how uniforms/figures interact with set?

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Re: Nebula Bridge Retexture - Romulan Warbird Bridge
« Reply #51 on: December 18, 2008, 08:43:35 AM »
Just curious about one thing tho: isn't there a Romulan crew/uniform mutator for BC?  Would give the bridge more authentic feel;  maybe inspire some other changes seeing how uniforms/figures interact with set?
Indeed there is
http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/Romulan_Uniforms_Nemesis_style;82793 [have not tried]

http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/Romulan_Crew_with_Mutator;34792  [I use this one]

http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/Romulan_Crew;7725        [have not tried]
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Re: Nebula Bridge Retexture - Romulan Warbird Bridge
« Reply #52 on: December 18, 2008, 09:09:59 AM »
I really hate to be the bearer of bad news (since this is looking so awesome) but the guy who owns that site gets very petty when LCARS, MSDs or whatever are used without his permission. I seem to remember someone else on this forum having a major spat with this guy becuase they used an MSD without asking.
Quite true. I'd pull of these images you posted and get permission right now before continuing. Also, Mr.
expert in photoshop
why haven't you just made them yourself?

I'm sorry, but:
1) leave the modding to the mods. If you feel something violates this sort of thing, pm one. It's private and doesn't make you look like an ass.
2) Don't make yourself look like an ass. I'm sorry, but your post does nothing except to come across this way.


Now for Firehawk. That is a tricky bridge to do environmental mapping for, as the wall textures are all the same thing. I was going to make my MidTNG bridge using this set to be a perfect match for the Saritoga in Emissary, but it just didn't work out with the frustration of dealing with the walls. Most bridges have an entire texture for the walls which you can place details in but the NebulaV3 only has a tile which is reused many times and nearly impossible to add much in the way of detailing. Just remember that environment textures and LCARS go hand in hand.

All in all, it's an incredible bridge. After I clear out my current projects I might try to make an alien bridge using the Galor class (may lack a bit in details, but at least it's not overly Feddy). Once again, bridge retexturing is essentially the best way to get new bridges into the game as the majority of new bridge models peter out and most of the 3rd Era attention is turned to Excalibur. It's amazing the difference a few textures can make when they are blended together. You have definitely earned a cookie from me for the effort.

Also, note to other people: Cookies really motivate people to do good work. I hate to say but the bridge people get a lot less credit for their work than the ship modellers and it's frustrating sometimes to do this sort of thing. It's very nice when you are done to get a user rating of 9.0 and up and 500 downloads at BCFiles, but it's very hard to slave away in your free time to do this sort of thing. It may sound easy, but it is not.

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Re: Nebula Bridge Retexture - Romulan Warbird Bridge
« Reply #53 on: December 18, 2008, 09:50:56 AM »
you know whats the worst? is that either side of the veiwscreen on the nebula theres these 3 lumps/bumps that look as if they were intended to be used for another texture

tbh the one bridge modl i want is a proper equinox

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Re: Nebula Bridge Retexture - Romulan Warbird Bridge
« Reply #54 on: December 18, 2008, 10:22:48 AM »
Those "bumps" were indeed made for another texture. If you look at NebulaV4 at the STExcalibur website, there are LCARS panels there. How I wish we could get our hands on that bridge for BC...

And the best advice I have is that if you want an Equinox, go make yourself an Equinox.

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Re: Nebula Bridge Retexture - Romulan Warbird Bridge
« Reply #55 on: December 18, 2008, 10:39:32 AM »
After I clear out my current projects I might try to make an alien bridge using the Galor class (may lack a bit in details, but at least it's not overly Feddy).

I agree  :D   In the absence of a decent Klingon bridge (sorry but I really don't like the STIII design/model) I did a retexture of the Galor bridge to Klingon.  Works quite well up to a point though I really don't like the column lights.  I might post some pics later to show what I mean.  It was doing that Galor that gave me the impetus to start Rotarran. 

And I agree about credits to those still working away at BC.  How far off is Excalibur? 

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Re: Nebula Bridge Retexture - Romulan Warbird Bridge
« Reply #56 on: December 18, 2008, 10:49:09 AM »
Those "bumps" were indeed made for another texture. If you look at NebulaV4 at the STExcalibur website, there are LCARS panels there. How I wish we could get our hands on that bridge for BC...

And the best advice I have is that if you want an Equinox, go make yourself an Equinox.

He don't have to make all new bridge ;) if you compare Prometheus and Equinox bridges you'll see they share outer section of the bridge (walls, doors, LCARS, viewscreen and probably ceiling)
here are some pics from Ex-Astris-Scientia.org :



If you know how to model you could change inner section by using existing parts tho you'd have to model helm station from scratch

Also, note to other people: Cookies really motivate people to do good work. I hate to say but the bridge people get a lot less credit for their work than the ship modellers and it's frustrating sometimes to do this sort of thing. It's very nice when you are done to get a user rating of 9.0 and up and 500 downloads at BCFiles, but it's very hard to slave away in your free time to do this sort of thing. It may sound easy, but it is not.

Totally agreed, Bridge texturing/retexturing takes a lot more time and effort (especially animated LCARS - they're real pain in a$$ to allign them properly) even with so much effort put into it we get whiners complaining that they would have done it better with MS Paint :shock:
thankfuly there aren't much of whiners in BC community these days :D

Barihawk has the point here, bridge artists get less credit yet everyone is complaining about small ammount of bridge mods (I mean quality bridge retextures ... not rainbow colored stock galaxy/sov bridge retexture/re-demolition ) what's when they see a ship mod that gets 9.5 rating and instant 1000 HOT downloads and on the other side their bridge mod released in the same time that gets barely 8.0 and 200 downloads after a month are they motivated to continue works on bridge mods ??? I guess no :(

as for the uniforms - bridge coloring, I say stay with grey on walls and chairs, make some Romulan insignias and small details green (but not too much) and change those panels under MSD/LCARS displays to something different and change lights color to white/beige cuz as I stated you have green lights but they cast white light, it will look weird.

oh I almost forgot... cookie for making first quality Romulan bridge and keep it up ;)

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Re: Nebula Bridge Retexture - Romulan Warbird Bridge
« Reply #57 on: December 18, 2008, 11:09:55 AM »
FYI, Ex Astris Scientifica has never allowed hotlinking :(

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Re: Nebula Bridge Retexture - Romulan Warbird Bridge
« Reply #58 on: December 18, 2008, 11:26:28 AM »
this shows th ePrommy/equinox comparison better you can see the distinctive roof in both


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Re: Nebula Bridge Retexture - Romulan Warbird Bridge
« Reply #59 on: December 18, 2008, 11:43:47 AM »
Unfortunately the captain/XO chair ruins it for making a bridge like that. I'll try some concepts for the LateTNG bridge but no promises.