Author Topic: DS9FX Extended Ship Replacements (Read 7352 times)

JimmyB76 · « **on:** July 30, 2012, 05:15:52 PM »

as has just been announced, DS9E carries on...
Mario and i have come to the conclusion that alot of the ships (mostly Federation) are a bit out if date by todays standards and as such we plan on switching out most of them...

we would like feedback - which current DS9E ships should be replaced by newer and better-looking ones?

this thread is for discussion, and all ideas will be taken into consideration...

thank you all in advance for any input, and links to suggestions would really be helpful

list of changes thus far:

Quote from: Mario on July 28, 2012, 03:35:17 PM

Changes:
corrected Galaxy Charts war simulator and DS9FX conflicts (aka hotfix #1)
added septimus system and related things such as music, descriptions
added mission 1 of the new campaign
added mission 2 of the new campaign
small updates and fixes
added mission 3 of the new campaign
added nero's kira set background change
added starbase375 system
added donatu system
added pelosa system
general fixes and cleanups
code cleanups
added mission 4 of the new campaign

Status: 30% Completed

mckinneyc · « **Reply #1 on:** July 30, 2012, 05:32:21 PM »

Excelsior and Centaur should be Wiley's I think.

The Galaxy should be DJ's.

Replace DS9 with Baz's

baz1701 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 30, 2012, 05:37:52 PM »

I'm happy for DS9 to be used as well as my Excelsior (normal and refit).

JimmyB76 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 30, 2012, 06:23:08 PM »

there are battles with a number of ships so hopefully alot of newer models wont cause too much a lag on some peoples systems lol i think thats why we had the ships we did then, but most people have since upgraded their pcs to be able to run a bit more than was possible then...
i suppose i could include a "Medium" folder for ships, and im assuming that shrinking down the textures by half should do the trick and hopefully wont impact too much on how the ship would look ingame...
cross that bridge later...

anyway, i just want to update as much as i can as far as ships

Bat66wat6 · « **Reply #4 on:** July 30, 2012, 07:06:06 PM »

Whatever the choice of ships just please pay attention to detail when it comes to balancing. A huge problem with this game is that everyone creates things the way they see fit and balance their creations against arbitrary markers they come up with from their own BC installs.

My brother has been attempting to create a ship replacement pack that replaces all stock 1.1 ships with their latest fan-made counterparts. Only problem is the balancing is completely whack. The Sovereign is a prime example as it can fly in circles around a bird of prey at top speed and pretty much insta-kill anything you throw at it.

I'm sure with the attention to detail you guys have it'll all be fine but just sayin'. If it's all meant to be balanced for KM balance it for KM etc. Not much is worse than ships with brilliant models and textures but some half-assed hardpointing. It's never ceased to amaze me. All that work into awesome models and textures and then to drop the ball when it came to basic hardpointing

:argh:

JimmyB76 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 30, 2012, 07:28:19 PM »

the ship balancing will be pretty much the same as it all is for DS9E ships now as how they are currenttl...
whether or not that means they are balanced to KM ships or stock ships, i have no idea really... but all the ships in DS9E are balanced to each other in that mod as best as we could...

CyAn1d3 · « **Reply #6 on:** July 30, 2012, 07:45:48 PM »

Quote from: Bat66wat6 on July 30, 2012, 07:06:06 PM

Not much is worse than ships with brilliant models and textures but some half-assed hardpointing. It's never ceased to amaze me. All that work into awesome models and textures and then to drop the ball when it came to basic hardpointing :argh:

HEY! im excused from this one.... EVERYONE knows i cant hardpoint for shite

JimmyB76 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 30, 2012, 07:52:00 PM »

anyway, so im thinking Wileys Centaur and Excelsiors (Valley Forge and Lakota) are in... also wiley's akira is also in...
baz's ds9 is in as well...
i also want to be sure the right ships are chosen (as far as registries) from that era, which ill need help from the community for that...

Galaxy Class is still in debate-mode as far as which model... what do you guys think? i really like both DJs and Wileys but im just not sure which to choose... im also fond of baz's but i just cant decide... it should be MVAM and perhaps the Venture-varient? what do you guys think?

also, for the other ships?

WileyCoyote · « **Reply #8 on:** July 30, 2012, 10:24:59 PM »

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i really like both DJs and Wileys but im just not sure which to choose... im also fond of baz's but i just cant decide... it should be MVAM and perhaps the Venture-varient? what do you guys think?

If you were to use my ship, I'll have to add the Venture nacelle phasers, and do some slight remapping for additional registries. It's doable.

JimmyB76 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 31, 2012, 03:57:38 PM »

ok so we'll go with Wileys ships for the Akira, Centaur, Excelsior, Lakota, Galaxy (Venture variant), baz's ds9, and i think thats where we stand for now...

need more suggestions for other ships? any other non-fed ones? i know there arent too many out there that are "recent"...

newhalo123 · « **Reply #10 on:** July 31, 2012, 04:24:53 PM »

What About Lint's Defiant? IT is the best out there imo.

Darkthunder · « **Reply #11 on:** July 31, 2012, 04:40:35 PM »

Quote from: newhalo123 on July 31, 2012, 04:24:53 PM

What About Lint's Defiant? IT is the best out there imo.

It's also grossly "over-polygoned". Yes, I know that's not a real word. The model certainly looks great, but then, given it's relatively high polycount, I pretty much expect that. Certainly there's gotta be a better alternative, to balance having a good looking ship + with large battles/amounts of ships?

mckinneyc · « **Reply #12 on:** July 31, 2012, 04:41:23 PM »

While I would love Wiley to make the Venture variant and do other registries for his Galaxy why not use DJ's since there are already the varients and registries done

EDIT - Wiley, what about using your Miranda class?

JimmyB76 · « **Reply #13 on:** July 31, 2012, 05:11:15 PM »

yeah lint's defiant is just too high poly for this mod... LC's is decent and i think there are at least one or two out there as well? i cant recall offhand...

Quote from: mckinneyc on July 31, 2012, 04:41:23 PM

While I would love Wiley to make the Venture variant and do other registries for his Galaxy why not use DJ's since there are already the varients and registries done

i would go with DJs Galaxy, but it seems we are already using alot of Wileys ships so why not stick to that trend? lol
besides, Wiley is gonna do up a Venture variant, which is what we'll go with to replace the current Galaxy Class...

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EDIT - Wiley, what about using your Miranda class?

wiley did a miranda class? where is that? how on earth did i miss that? we need do a miranda replacement...

mckinneyc · « **Reply #14 on:** July 31, 2012, 05:20:58 PM »

yeah but I was thinking that but variety is the spice of life. And we are using Wiley's work for all the other ships.

The Miranda was part of his TWOK pack he made ages ago. It is the best Miranda model we have ever had for BC

Mario · « **Reply #15 on:** July 31, 2012, 05:26:17 PM »

I think we should stick with Wiley since we're going to use most of his stuff.

DMWalsh79 · « **Reply #16 on:** July 31, 2012, 08:55:08 PM »

I think Bazs' K'Tinga would be a could candidate for replacing the one that's in DS9E. Same thing with his BoP when it comes out.

Adonis · « **Reply #17 on:** July 31, 2012, 09:45:18 PM »

Jimmy, feel free to use my Oberths as well, after all, it has all the canon ships in their correct setups ;)

zgok · « **Reply #18 on:** August 01, 2012, 03:39:54 AM »

I'd recommend TU's Warbird as a replacement for the current one.

Nx-809 · « **Reply #19 on:** August 01, 2012, 07:52:57 AM »

Cardassian Galor by serverandenforcer ?? (when finish)
Intrepid class by JB06 ?? (remember " Inter Arma enim silent leges" bellerophont intrepid class)

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