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Re: Vortex' WIP's; Lost Era Avenger Class
« Reply #160 on: February 03, 2014, 07:10:16 AM »
That looks too crowded now, and feels like overkill. I would remove the ones above the warp nacelles
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Re: Vortex' WIP's; Lost Era Avenger Class
« Reply #161 on: February 03, 2014, 03:46:50 PM »
Thanks for the input. I'll probably do a couple of variants.

@Locke: I'm thinking of doing smaller versions of the Excelsior impulse engines and flipping them upside down. I'll put them in a similar arrangement that I had on the first model a page or two back.

@Adam: Avenger will be a precursor to the Defiant. She'll come into service around the time of the Enterprise-B and and be decommissioned a year or two before TNG takes place.

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Re: Vortex' WIP's; Lost Era Avenger Class
« Reply #162 on: February 03, 2014, 06:09:05 PM »
Thanks for the info

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Re: Vortex' WIP's; Lost Era Avenger Class
« Reply #163 on: February 07, 2014, 03:19:51 PM »
A quick bit of pushing vertex' and this is where it's at:




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Re: Vortex' WIP's; Lost Era Avenger Class
« Reply #164 on: February 07, 2014, 06:43:32 PM »
I like it.  :dance


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Re: Vortex' WIP's; Lost Era Avenger Class
« Reply #165 on: February 08, 2014, 02:47:04 AM »
I was thinking of something like this:



An under-over arrangement, with another pair on the starboard side.  It would make them protected from enemy fire since they would be hidden by the nacelles on a broadside run and would present a low target during fore or aft attack runs.  If an enemy were to get behind you, it would also present a much smaller target than a wide, single-array impulse system.  Four small engines versus one large one would allow for multiple redundancy when faced with a larger opponent.

Plus it fills that empty area between the nacelles and the primary hull which will be unoccupied otherwise.

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Re: Vortex' WIP's; Lost Era Avenger Class
« Reply #166 on: February 08, 2014, 07:47:43 AM »
Not set on placement yet, but here's a quick knock up of the impulse units:


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Re: Vortex' WIP's; Lost Era Avenger Class
« Reply #167 on: February 08, 2014, 10:03:42 AM »
If you make those engines that wide, they should be longer

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Re: Vortex' WIP's; Lost Era Avenger Class
« Reply #168 on: February 08, 2014, 10:40:27 AM »
If that is a Miranda-styled weapons pod, I would suggest to reshape it.
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Re: Vortex' WIP's; Lost Era Avenger Class
« Reply #169 on: February 08, 2014, 11:02:44 AM »
It was based more on the Constitution than the Miranda. I'm open to suggestions, so long as it fits the Lost Era aesthetic.

Quick update to the impulse engines, now longer.




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Re: Vortex' WIP's; Lost Era Avenger Class
« Reply #170 on: February 08, 2014, 12:21:00 PM »
Like everyone else has said, this is a really good design, however I do like the nacelles on the first version you did better than the ones on here.  They seemed to fit the 'lost era' design, and so far the new ones seem to be more TMP'ish.  I'm attaching a photo....they definitely seem more integrated into the overall design.   

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Re: Vortex' WIP's; Lost Era Avenger Class
« Reply #171 on: February 10, 2014, 12:55:49 PM »
Thanks. I'm glad that the design is liked.

As the Ent-C is the only ship from the LE that we see with Red bussards and glowing grilles, I tend to think that that design aspect came back with the Ambassador class. Since this ship pre-dates that, it's more in line with the movie aesthetics. However, I may do a refit. I do have ideas for a 25th century version called New Avenger.