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BC Forums => BC Modding => Topic started by: Phoenix Bondi on February 13, 2011, 02:45:52 PM
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Well i decided to go back though my catalogs and see what i've got on the table to do still :hithead: :banghead: WTF did i do that for...OH MY GOD HOW MUCH!!!
any who i've comprised a list and hopefully i will get it all done at some point, tbh now im getting to grips with it more, they should come rolling out quite quickly
so lets start this list! *note will post list and status onto the first post too, so u can keep updated*
FEDERATION
THE ORIGINAL SERIES
Constitution MkIII- released
Constitution MkII
Constitution MkI
Constitution Phase 1 *my own type not cannon*
Constitution REDESIGN *my own take on what would of been in new movies*
Kelvin late tos - Needs fixing
Kelvin Early Tos - Animating now
Marco Polo - Released
K7 - Need Mapping (Hi Baz)
Vanguard Station - needs mapping (Hello Baz)
Vindicator Class - Released
Swacs Class - ready for porting
Saratoga Class - Fix windows and port
Saladin Class - ready for porting
Ptolemy Class - Need help with Mvam
Proxima Class - repair textures tweek mesh and update (may have to remake)
Miranda Class - Released
Jayden Class - fix windows and port
Rayfield Class - released no mvam - will re-release with mvam later
Federation Class - released
Apollo - released
ROMULANS
Battle Bird - Ready for porting
Bird of Prey - Building the Mesh Now
Senegal - needs fixing and texturing
THE MOVIE PERIOD
Oberth Scout - cheak for errors apply textures and port
Oberth *stock* - cheak for errors apply textures and port
Oberth Medical - cheak for errors apply textures and port
Oberth Heavy Scout - cheak for errors apply textures and port
Oberth Guardian Class - cheak for errors apply textures and port
Oberth Frigate - cheak f0r errors apply textures and port
Strider - Released
KLINGON
Vor'Cha DS9 - Released
Vor'Cha TNG - Released
Imperial Vor'cha -Texturing
Raptor - to be built
rapier - to be built
ALIEN
Rayfield Freighter - released
Half started work that needs to be finished or Scraped
Project listings for 2013 submitted on 22.8.13
FEDERATION
Ambassador Class
DS9 Runabout
TOS repair yard
Galaxy Class - More as practice for me than to release
ROMULANS
TNG Bird Of Prey
Centurion
Romulan Station
Sunhawk
Vulture
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If the models are in .nif format, and the textures are tga, I can get them in game.
These look great, and we are in need of a few new TOS Roms!
Also weren't you working on a TOS Proxima Class? Or was that someone else?
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yup that was me, over howling it at the moment :D
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your gonna give GMunoz a run for his money. the Battle Bird does have a version out, but with a different head. and I think you've done the first TOS Miranda.
btw...i see you included the landing pads on the Rom BoP. you might also wanna consider a bird decoed D7 (i was gonna do a quickie retex of a D7 to that)
DT: ever hunted through mods? i've seen older versions of these available all over, but not with the PROPER BoP colors (the ones I have are red birds)
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yer im working on a d7 at the moment :D
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Very nice!
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Yea I can help ingame too. Not currently working on tos but that will soon change and iw as thinking of teaming with dead anyways. That connie and romulan warbird look cool. I've got a simialr class from sfc for my tos mod.
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Yup, my school is starting to cool down, and I seem to have more free time nowadays. I really hate my math class, but the teacher is giving less homework, so I am free on the weekends now, which gives me about 3-4 hours a day to mod, with the rest being RL. Glad my situation is improving, and I need to get something to work on.
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So u guys wanna help then? would be my first lot of release's since 2004 lol - ok so now these are my own models and textures but WOW 7 years awaiting a release lol!!!
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this project is looking awesome man! :D
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I have some caps of the Rom take on the d7'ds (plus, since a Rom Bop and a D7 are free use models, I made my OWN bird :P)
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Cool man!
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I missed you on FB, however if you can't export to nif yourself there are some ways you can make it easier.
Firstly, remove all legacy specific garbage from the model. I know they have those mesh-inside-mesh for damage, those can go. Just the model itself is needed.
They should be in 3ds format (or sfc format, if you are familiar with that)
If using 3ds, reassign all textures as tga and remember the 8 character filename issue. Or, atleast have the mesh as a single part so when I click it with the material editor I get a list off all the textures rather than needed to click each mesh part (generally requires rotation and zooming in which often leaves bits behind and accidently breaks up the model sending me back to step 1)
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And once in .nif, Starforce will send half to me, so the work is split in two, and the load isn't as bad!
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well i got shown this a while ago by starforce and fell in love with it, so here we have the mostly complete mesh for the new Sunhawk!
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/rommies/Sunhawk.jpg)
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hmm I like everything about it BUT the nacelles.
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its an old atlom design i was tempted to just give it my tos nacelles but fan boys would kill me lol
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These are awesome! Love the textures and model quality looks great. I am glad to see phoenixfett is picking up the TOS torch as I am getting ready to take a break after I release the Starfleet Museum pack. Have a baby boy due in 2 months. If any of the HP's from my previous releases would be of any use, please feel free to use them.
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Cheers man, thank you very much ! :bow:
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After an hour and a half of ANOYUNCE!!! i fianlly have the bird for the sun hawk DOWN!
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/184314_1801875082434_1106546365_32098179_3724016_n.jpg)
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looks a lot better than MY bird, I can tell you :P
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These are awesome! Love the textures and model quality looks great. I am glad to see phoenixfett is picking up the TOS torch as I am getting ready to take a break after I release the Starfleet Museum pack. Have a baby boy due in 2 months. If any of the HP's from my previous releases would be of any use, please feel free to use them.
Sounds like a good reason to take a break G. Congratulations! I agree the work you've done is damn good Phoenix! Can't wait to see them, and your future work, in game!
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Great work! Excellent details.
Congrats GMunoz! Unless you have any other children, I have to say that you're about to start a whole new adventure.
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Nice bird there Phoenix. Looks somewhat like the one I helped design for Baz's JJ Rommie, which is a good thing. Very aggressive. :thumbsup:
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Hopefully this doesn't get erased with the other messages because I intend it to go back on topic :D I was just wondering Phoenix, since you and Atolm have come to an understanding, I was just wondering if you someday planned to do more of his designs? One in particular stands out in my mind... his Doomsday Machine. It was basically a "what did the Doomsday Machine look like fresh off the assembly line" concept. I don't know if you could fit something like this into your pack but if you two do form some awesome coperation then I would definitely like to see this one come alive someday if you cared to do so :thumbsup:
Just throwing this out there.
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that doesn't look like doomy...that looks like a what if version of Sarris's ship from Galaxy Quest! i still like it.
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if the doomsday machine was a Fish - this would be the great white lol i LOVE it personally - i'll have to speak to Atolm about it - but personally i say no - i wouldnt be able to do it justice :(
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Teriffic!
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Update :D
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/180657_1804860437066_1106546365_32102643_347722_n.jpg)
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Now THAT is vicious.
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Hey Phoenix, Let me HP this one for you.
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Ok then guys, i thought i would post this up, just like i did on the Chris Jones Gaming forum, if any of you wanna take a look at our legacy mod go to http://www.forum.chrisjonesgaming.net (http://www.forum.chrisjonesgaming.net), well back onto the task at hand, I have been going on about for the last few months.
Project Origins started out because of the new Trek, quite a few youngster who now like Trek think, Oh yer this JJ Abrams Trek is awesome blah blah blah, and with Wiley and Bazz doing some fantastic models they started to make their way into our Legacy mod, UUM, now since i am the only modeler from scratch *The others, Muldrf and Acid are porters.* I wasn't going to be making the new JJ Universe stuff. so Muldrf contacted Bazz and got permission to port his models over, and I wont lie Travis *Muldrf* did a really bang up job. Now the TOS race in legacy include TMP ships, and It is extreamly short of TOS era vessels, so with that I set about showing where Star Trek Originated from....Oh wait Originated....ORIGINS!!!! and that's how I came up with the name.
So here is a list of my expectations - some real *I.E I'll meet them* some are just a dream, but I'll endevour to finish them all. As I have previously mentioned I am mainly a Legacy Modeler but I wish to share my work with as many people as possible, the problem being, I can't HP ships and get them into game. I already have had some offers which is really nice and has pleased me no end. With that, I intend to release my WHOLE project over to Bridge Commander as well as Legacy....Mainly so I can see the best my ships can offer. Legacy is still, even though newer, not as superior as this game.
Below is a list of my work, including state of progress...
FEDERATION
"CONSTITUTION"
Mk1 - Finished ready for porting
Mk2 - Finished ready for porting
Mk3 - Finished ready for porting
Kelvin
*PRIME* (my take on the JJ Abrams Ship) - Finished ready for porting
Proxima
W/O Weapons Pod - Finished ready for porting *maybe minor texture tweaks*
With Weapons Pod - Mesh in progress
Vindicator
Vindicator - Finished ready for porting
Copornicus - Star Trek Phase II - Mesh in progress
Reliant - With weapons pod
Saratoga - TOS take on sisco's BOBW ship
Oberth - TOS Veriant
Oberth - With lower hull
Oberth - W/O lower hull
Oberth - Guardian refit
Oberth - Scout
PTOLEMY TUG - Mesh in progress
With Cargo Container
W/o Cargo Container
Excelsior - Mesh in progress
Excelsior Concept. *TOS Test bench* - Yes I have a story for this :D
K-7
K-7 - Need to be textured
K Station Kitbash *huge*
Argo - From the classic board game *the one like Warhammer*
Kubrick
Ares - My own design
Vanguard Station
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ROMULAN
Battle Bird - Finished ready for porting
Bird Of Prey - Finished ready for porting
Vulture - Being Textured *Needs renaming as i have one of Atolm's designs with the same name, to do at a later date*
Sunhawk - Being Textured *Atolm's & Wicked Zombies Design*
D-7/StormBird - Mesh In progress
Night Hawk - Mesh in progress
Also i have a couple of Atolm's designs and a couple of my own to do for the Romulan race.
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Minor Races
Doomsday Machine - Problems with mesh (contacted Wiley about it)
Tholian
Webb spinner
Scout
heavy
Tholian STARBASE
See told you guys Epic amounts lol
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You win just by mentioning the Tholians. Those poor guys are so underrated.
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Its nice to see some minor races get recognition.
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Proxima
W/O Weapons Pod - Finished ready for porting *maybe minor texture tweaks*
With Weapons Pod - Mesh in progress
:angel
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We have a tholian space dock and tholian ship already done.
We were going to release them as a system mod but it is still a work in progress.
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new one on me, baz
I see someone else is in the "jj sucks (insert body part here)" camp. but we do need someone to point people to OS as well. just don't tell them the originals are almost 50 years old :P
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We have a tholian space dock and tholian ship already done.
We were going to release them as a system mod but it is still a work in progress.
YEP
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Just an update for you guys
obviously i'll lighen the lines etc just thought i'd show off the patten's Hope u like
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/184322_1811760609566_1106546365_32115222_2489610_n.jpg)
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/181790_1811760409561_1106546365_32115221_3021440_n.jpg)
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/190396_1811760169555_1106546365_32115220_6118384_n.jpg)
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pretty model and bird.
Think it looked better without the hull lines though.
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obviously i'll lighen the lines etc just thought i'd show off the patten's Hope u like
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at present i have them with no opacicity so u can see the lines but when the models done they will be barley visable and sunk into the hull as they should be, so they won't stand out like that lol
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good to hear that, would be to much lines
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Lets Play Guess who!!!
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/181951_1812334663917_1106546365_32116531_6459354_n.jpg)
ignore the ships regestry and the fact the specs are showing, my computer bugged and i couldnt swap the textures but trust me when shes done she'll be fine!
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saratoga!
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TOS Saratoga to be exactly ;)
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alright star trek's whipping post!!!
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I believe he is referring to the fact that the Saratoga usually tends to be the "go-to" ship that gets destroyed or damaged. First in Star Trek 4, it was disabled when the Whale Probe passed by. Next, it was destroyed while fighting the Borg (Sisko's ship).
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I believe he is referring to the fact that the Saratoga usually tends to be the "go-to" ship that gets destroyed or damaged. First in Star Trek 4, it was disabled when the Whale Probe passed by. Next, it was destroyed while fighting the Borg (Sisko's ship).
:yeahthat:
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Well i got bored today and went though some of the drawings I've been given over time, and there was this strange BOP'ish looking that some one had sent me, so i decided to give it ago changing things and adding things and then hit a hard point .... lol A name, so i google'd bird name's and found senegal and thought humm, different
so here i present to you
the Senegal Warbird
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/184676_1814112348358_1106546365_32119398_8071151_n.jpg)
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/189585_1814112508362_1106546365_32119399_6962860_n.jpg)
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/183829_1814112628365_1106546365_32119400_5697016_n.jpg)
Hope u like it
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Beautiful!
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Wow!
Mr. Sulu, Charge all phaser banks, load all torpedo tubes. Deflectors at maximum, this one's going to hurt.
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o.O
i bet they heard the Gluy'cha at the listening posts around the neutral zone without needing to turn the sensors on!
make some Klingons like that, too!
(lol, klingon is in my spellchecker)
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o.O
i bet they heard the Gluy'cha at the listening posts around the neutral zone without needing to turn the sensors on!
make some Klingons like that, too!
(lol, klingon is in my spellchecker)
??????? wah???
lol
on a serious not - How do i cash in these cookies!! I'M HUNGRY!!! lolz
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that reminds me
*fires cookie torpedoes, literally*
(look up my first mod!)
if you didn't get it, it's most likey "holy BLEEP", but I think you did.
Edit:
alright star trek's whipping post!!!
you mean whipping boy.
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Very different.
Looks good!
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ok as the new name suggest's its the peoples Vote i dunno how to do polls so i'll have to do it this way
i wanna know what to do next as im stuck with textures at the moment
Please Reply with your vote
All will be TOS
TOS Excelsior Concept
Shuttle craft gallalo
K-7
another of atolms romulan designs he's sent me - you wont know what it is till i go thought them my self :P
tholian web spinner
Vanguard Station
Yorktown Class
Kubrick- refit - a take on the miranda
Proxima Class
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I would like to see K7 myself
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Proxima :dontcare:
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To put up a poll just click on the "New Poll" option at the top of the page...it should let you type in your options for the poll :)
K-7 btw!
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To put up a poll just click on the "New Poll" option at the top of the page...it should let you type in your options for the poll :)
K-7 btw!
you mean bottom right of page. :P
also I could make the poll if he wants
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Webspinner. ;)
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you mean bottom right of page. :P
also I could make the poll if he wants
:yeahthat: Neb made me say it to embarrass myself!!! :P
Anywhosits...
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That Atolm design.
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*poll added*
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*poll added*
:bow: thank you!!
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Second vote for K7. :D
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Well, I'm not happy with the impulse houseing area, BUT i have an idea on what i might do, the main hull needs to be more polys so i'll redo that too, i like the pylon style think it works, but alas the only bit I'm 100% happy with is of course my Nacelles and Saucer section, But meh. here she is the top of the vote's at the moment, the TOS Excelsior Concept - WIP Suggestions people!!!
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/196008_1822049146773_1106546365_32133759_8203203_n.jpg)
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/184862_1822049386779_1106546365_32133760_5686863_n.jpg)
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/189530_1822049506782_1106546365_32133762_161855_n.jpg)
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Bored? Need a life? or just love this 5H1T Too damn much
K7 for u guys too
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/189439_1822103828140_1106546365_32133887_6671007_n.jpg)
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/197310_1822104028145_1106546365_32133888_4511918_n.jpg)
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if I might make a suggestion about the Excelsior, the Saucer section looks too much like the regular version, No offense, but it looks like you slapped TOS engines and a TOS deflector on an Excelsior model. I suggest that you change the saucer to look more like the Constitution style saucer, or maybe something like the Federation class saucer, since it is a bigger ship.
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if I might make a suggestion about the Excelsior, the Saucer section looks too much like the regular version, No offense, but it looks like you slapped TOS engines and a TOS deflector on an Excelsior model. I suggest that you change the saucer to look more like the Constitution style saucer, or maybe something like the Federation class saucer, since it is a bigger ship.
Agreed.
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Indeed. it needs to look more brick-like and clumsy like original Connie.
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give it a proxima type saucer, just smaller
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I just caught this (stupid "no updated posts" thingy), and I agree about the saucer. I also think the e-hull should be "TOSiffied" a bit more as well.
someone suggested using the federation class saucer, which reminded me of my own "chandler" class heavy scout for TOS
http://bc-central.net/forums/index.php/topic,7309.0.html
also, you might want to look at the "garth" for inspiration (and JUST inspiration)
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I would simply invert the trailing edge of the saucer so it is the same angle as the connie's and then put a connie style bridge module on it
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K7 looks great and the excelsior is coming along nicely.
Only nitpik is not sure the TOS connie nacelles suits the excelsior design since it is a bigger ship perhaps keep the basic look but with some slight alterations like a beefed up design rather than a simple up scale of the connies engines.
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yea 4 intercooler fins and tos-ify the saucer a bit more. looks too tmp still.
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yea 4 intercooler fins.
wxplain pls
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it givers intergalactic veetak moar boost yo. :thumbsup:
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ok i wont lie to u guys i want to keep the saucer as it is as then the REAL excelsior would be a refit like the connie *yes i know they changed the saucer too, but this would be late in TOS era so they would be at the PEAK of their techonology standards there, i deffo wanna change the impulse housing more and nacelles I'm after as much imput as posible, this is what i came up with today messing around
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/197914_1823903553132_1106546365_32137352_5868265_n.jpg)
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/200538_1823903673135_1106546365_32137353_5922698_n.jpg)
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/197050_1823903873140_1106546365_32137354_1424142_n.jpg)
it givers intergalactic veetak moar boost yo. :thumbsup:
u lost me? lol sorry
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Looks good so far, but that impulse drive housing is too fat i think and the bridge dome is very tiny compared to the rest (maybe thats the angle).
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I would personally go with something alittle like the crude sketch below.
But the beauty about building your own ship is you can please yourself what you do :D.
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Baz's nacelle looks good. You could maybe try just inverting the lip on the saucer to give it a more TOS look.
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Thats a good idea i'll have a fiddle with it see what i get
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drew up a quick design sketch you may like for the TOS Excelsior
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Sorry bout the lack of updates been busy with real life - expect some soon :D
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I've got an idea we might wanna talk about...
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Awesome send me a PM, im just doing my dinner now and then finishing off the Saratoga - add me on msn - killfactor2001@hotmail.com or skype - phoenixfett
I'll be on all night
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as promised the finished Saratoga, But please ignor the enterprise regestry
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/199398_1885253006830_1106546365_32201524_6155360_n.jpg)
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Looking good Phoenix! Keep up the great work and cookie away!
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Good stuff Phoenix!
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But please ignor the enterprise regestry
I will NOT Take it off NOW :P april fools
looks great though! :)
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I will NOT Take it off NOW :P april fools
looks great though! :)
i posted that in the evening so well after midday - tis make u da fool fella lol
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Now THAT is a cool little TOS ship!
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looks great Phoenix. Cookie for you.
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Thanks guys im working on the copornicus veriant atm so updates soon - just slow after the damage i coursed to my finger lol
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Well everything is 10x harder for me at the moment as im realy dependent on my hands lol *GUITAR U PERV'S!!!" lol - and mouse if u wanna be grossed out this is what i've done!
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/216419_1899972054797_1106546365_32220064_3154828_n.jpg)
As u can see i ripped the entire of my upper knuckle off lol - Twit!
Onto the modeling
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As you can guess its pritey slow going at the moment with this injury - but how about this for you guys
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/208750_1904781735036_1106546365_32228772_2424917_n.jpg)
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Thats different, I think I like it.
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Is this the USS Copernicus from the ST: Phase II episode "Blood and Fire"?
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Based on it, but the main hull is longer the Extra hull is outter proportion to the show, but it was a heavy inspiration to it :D
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First sorry about your finger.
Second... YES I have been waiting for this lady to make her way to BC. She's a great ship and I loving using her on Legacy! Cookie for you!
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Project Origins
FEDERATION
Constitution Class
Mk1 - Finished ready for porting
Mk2 - Finished ready for porting
Mk3 - Finished ready for porting
Pre-fit ? mesh finished
Phoenix update ? 70% done (my take on what I would of used for the JJ movie an up to date classic)
Kelvin Class *PRIME* - Finished ready for porting
Proxima Class
W/O Weapons Pod - Finished ready for porting *maybe minor texture tweaks*
With Weapons Pod - Mesh in progress
Vindicator Class (TOS Miranda)
Vindicator - Finished ready for porting
Copornicus - Star Trek Phase II - Mesh in progress
Reliant - With weapons pod ? Not started
Saratoga ? Finished ready for porting
Kubrick- refit
Oberth Class - TOS Veriant ? None Started
Oberth - With lower hull
Oberth - W/O lower hull
Oberth - Guardian refit
Ptolemy Class Tug ? Kitbash Connie
With Cargo Container
W/o Cargo Container
Excelsior Class
Excelsior Concept. ? Not Started
K Series Station
K-7 - Need to be textured
K Station Kitbash *huge*
Argo Class ? Kitbash Connie
Ares Class - My own design
Yorktown Class ? Mesh Complete
Federation Class ? Mesh 95% Complete
Saladin ? Finished ready for porting
Apollo ? Finished ready for porting
Vanguard Station - not started
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ROMULAN
Battle Bird - Finished ready for porting
Battle Bird X Type ? Kitbash the battle bird
Bird Of Prey - Finished ready for porting
Falcon Bird Of Prey - not started
NightHawk - Being Textured
Sunhawk - Being Textured *Atolm's & Wicked Zombies Design*
D-7/StormBird - Mesh In progress
Vulture ? Atolm?s Design ? Not Started
Venator ? Atolm?s Design ? Not Started
KLINGONS
Romulan BOP Retexture ? Gan doing it for me
D7 Klingon Texture ? Gan doing it for me
Minor Race?s
Doomsday Machine ? Not Started
Tholian Webb spinner ? Not Started
Tholian Scout ? Not Started
Tholian Heavy ? Not Started
Tholian STARBASE ? Not Started
Thats a total of 45 ships ? going to try for 50 :D happy days
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here you go guys 4 new ships for ya
Argo Class ? Kitbash Connie
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/205552_1914177889934_1106546365_32239445_7817111_n.jpg)
Saladin ? Finished ready for porting
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/216810_1914174729855_1106546365_32239438_6132008_n.jpg)
Apollo ? Finished ready for porting
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/205599_1914178289944_1106546365_32239446_120796_n.jpg)
Hudson - Finished ready for porting
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/216015_1914176929910_1106546365_32239443_3118401_n.jpg)
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What about the Hermes? Can't forget that one. Sure its the same ship just weaker(scout) and has not even half the weapons of the Saladin(destroyer) but still why not?
EDIT: Whoa very nice.
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Nice Work, is this going to be a total conversion of BC?
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What about the Hermes? Can't forget that one. Sure its the same ship just weaker(scout) and has not even half the weapons of the Saladin(destroyer) but still why not?
EDIT: Whoa very nice.
i'll give u that one!Nice Work, is this going to be a total conversion of BC?
Nope just a ship pack
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may i critque the Proxima class?
I need a good one for the orthos for my fanfic.
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may i critque the Proxima class?
I need a good one for the orthos for my fanfic.
wat do you mean ??
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I got a look at these earlier (right as he put them out). even made a couple suggestions. I'm looking forward to these as much as to GMunoz finishing off his pre-feds (once he has the time)
how was the movie? hope she was in your lap ;)
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wat do you mean ??
I would like to see some ortho styled pics of the Proxima w/o weapons pod
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ortho? u tell the dumb A55 over here wat u mean and i'll be happy to comply lol :banghead:
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He wants a shot of the Side... Top and Front of the ship.
dead on shots that is... no angled views.
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cheers neb -deadthunder i'll do it first thing tomorrow for u mate
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as requested by Deadthunder - but i didn't upload them till now as i was doing a big change to textures and fixing some mesh problems and replacing other parts :D hope u like her people!
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/216545_1918415795879_1106546365_32244325_515081_n.jpg)
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/205570_1918415395869_1106546365_32244323_1435560_n.jpg)
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/205146_1918415035860_1106546365_32244321_4181295_n.jpg)
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/207082_1918414795854_1106546365_32244320_227653_n.jpg)
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/216961_1918414435845_1106546365_32244319_7435489_n.jpg)
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Looking good Phoenix.
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Cookie for you man! Can't wait to see more!
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Thanks, Look great, just a little of my sketch! Now I will have a HQ model to work with!
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hey nix, proxima saucer is round :P. not oval, if u want i can send the original mesh :)
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hey nix, proxima saucer is round :P. not oval, if u want i can send the original mesh :)
True, but i think the pics may be a little stretched
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No i made it more oval on purpose but can change it if others want
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Dude she has 'hurt' all over! :thumbsup:
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Dude she has 'hurt' all over! :thumbsup:
???? wah????
Update for you, Romulan Storm Bird
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/205039_1921377149911_1106546365_32248696_3446390_n.jpg)
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/215214_1921376469894_1106546365_32248694_708105_n.jpg)
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/215724_1921375749876_1106546365_32248693_872131_n.jpg)
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/207618_1921375109860_1106546365_32248692_2342376_n.jpg)
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/221832_1921374549846_1106546365_32248691_6889706_n.jpg)
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Battle Bird - X class (the Pylon in the middle will be changed :evil:
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/221994_1921504113085_1106546365_32248891_2270752_n.jpg)
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/216386_1921503113060_1106546365_32248887_5788466_n.jpg)
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/221930_1921502513045_1106546365_32248886_4368965_n.jpg)
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/217667_1921501913030_1106546365_32248884_4444111_n.jpg)
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/208092_1921501193012_1106546365_32248882_1878579_n.jpg)
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igh. I agree. mabey just drop the top part and plop the nacelle right on the fin top?
uh, this is gonna sound a bit weird, but have you ever thought about a TOS take on a D'Deridex?
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igh. I agree. mabey just drop the top part and plop the nacelle right on the fin top?
uh, this is gonna sound a bit weird, but have you ever thought about a TOS take on a D'Deridex?
actually yes its a wip at the moment
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MWAHAHAHAHAHA.
i gotta see that when you have the basics together.
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LOVE the Battlebird! You may usurp GMunoz as the TOS master Phoenix. now I need to go find a towel for all the drool you have just induced!
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Has or can any one help me find some blueprints or schematics of starbase 47 vanguard station please i've found this but i need more
(http://images.wikia.com/startrek/images/d/d8/Starbase47.jpg)
(http://www.psiphi.org/images/vanguard-side-big.jpg)
(http://drexfiles.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/vanguard_precipice_roughs05.jpg?w=655&h=276)
if anyone knows of more please tell me as i really wanna make this :D
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I don't know about schematics but here is a nice big picture posted at Drexfiles.
(http://drexfiles.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/vanguard_declassified_wip_r04.jpg)
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Instead of Starbase 47 why not give this one a shot?
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Hey y not do both
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sorry for the delay, i've been busy with my real life but i need a team now to help me port the ones i have finished, im going to release it in packs now instead so any helpers please come forward
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OH OH OH Pick ME!
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already got vanguard station, cord- did great job http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/Vanguard_Watchtower_Starbase_47;83554
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oh god, sorry about all this time dissapearing guys, im back now so anyone that wants to help me port these ships into game please pm me with an email addres and skype/msn contact detales please, i really need to move my A$$ into gear and get these out now so u guys can have some fun
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indeed you do :P
can't wait to see this finished :D
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Just to let you know I've been working on Vanguard Station today. I think I might of gone a little over the top with my detail, for example all the Hull lines on the top and lower half of the main dome including the cargo bay doors are modeled in at present so I'm just going to wait till the rest of the basic parts are done to see if i need to get rid of some of my detail, but I'm hoping I wont have too :funny leave a comment if you guys want some pictures
*Addition* I'm having quite a hard time trying to figure out how I'm going to do the docking pylons *arms* ideas please??
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Are you referring to the actual modeling procedure?
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So after a couple of lazy months i decided to throw my self back into my modeling, and I'm so happy I did. endless fun trying this model but I've used a few references and have picked what I consider to be the best of the all, so its like a bit of A, a bit of B etc
But with out further ado here is my take *so far* on the federation vanguard station Starbase 47 - a type 6 starbase
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/origins/sb47.jpg)
As you can see, instead of texturing the hull lines in, I have opted to model them in, and still I have not hit 10k, so by the time shes finished and clean/optimized i hope she will be a smallish mesh still,
on one more note I would like to say the docking ring is a place holder at the moment, that is by no means my final part
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/origins/sb47-2.jpg)
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Looking good phoenix. Definitely cookie worthy. You really should take a stab at that other spacedock next. Think the 2 would complement themselves.
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placeholder my butt...KEEP it.
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Looks great the only thing i'd say is chamfer the wing edges alittle, they are little jagged compared to the rest of this very smooth mesh
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Thanks for the comments guys, the docking area is only a place holder at the moment as the ports are not square there quite ecliptical but im not sure if what im looking at is a bugged picture, so not sure if they are circuler or not - lol but yer will be getting a complete over hawl and then i'll see what my poly count sits at, if i have more to play with i'll add some more detail, like maybe an open cargo bay with some shuttles docked with crates etc??? any ideas feel free to share them
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The docking ring extensions are most definitely ovoid in shape. If you're looking for some good reference material, this thread (http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/showthread.php?77655-Vanguard-Starbase-6-Type-Starbase&highlight=starbase+47) over at SciFi Meshes (http://www.scifi-meshes.com) has a pretty good set of close-ups of a very similar station. It's not the exact version of the Vanguard/47, but the docking ring is almost the same.
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Its a good start mate, nicely done. :thumbsup:
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ok so heres an update for you, after doing some more research into Vanguard Station, i learned that not only could 8 ships dock with it on the outside, it actually was capable of housing 4 constitution class vessels on the inside as well, much like Sol's SB1 but a lot lot lot (carry on for five minuets) smaller, now first here's the picture but after is an question that might make a big difference to this station
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/origins/sb47-2a.jpg)
Now my questions are
1) would you like it to be MVAM enabled so you could say launch ships, maybe a different one from each docking bay?
2) how do i make the doors to open??
3) is this something people would like to see??
4) lastly who might be able to help me script this into the station?
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1) would you like it to be MVAM enabled so you could say launch ships, maybe a different one from each docking bay?
2) how do i make the doors to open??
3) is this something people would like to see??
If I may, I can offer some answers given my recent experience modding a station for BC:
1) I would strongly recommend not using MVAM if you want the station to launch ships. MVAM will mean that the station will need to be 'separated' into several different objects, and well... that's gonna be a lot of hassle. I would suggest thinking about the Shuttle Lauching Framework instead (I've used it for my Spacedock, and it works really well). It's easier to set up than MVAM, it allows you to decide where the ships are launched from, and how many there are; you'll just lose the realism of seeing the ships docked at the station.
2) The doors are definately MVAM material. I havn't had much experience there, but I'm sure someone made (or at least tried to make) a starbase with doors that opened and closed using the MVAM mod. You'll have to ask someone else exactly how to do this.
3) I'd definately like to see it. Your progress is looking great so far, and BC doesn't have many stations (hardly any from TOS-era). :thumbsup:
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thanks for the comment Unknown, i must admit i was thinking of asking you about it in the first place, I'm having a blast making this starbase and I'm really enjoying it, best of all it's inspired me to make a couple of different ones based LOOSELY off this one, i was thinking that this could be like TOS's Sb1 and then building more around that, i thought a few stations would be interesting for origins :D
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I have a few TOS stations laying around waiting to be used... if ya want any I can give em to ya.
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Send them to me please Neb, phoenix@chrisjonesgaming.net
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Guys is there any Modlers out there who can explain how i can make the docking ring better? i mean it needs 12 bays, 6 long 6 short, but the ONLY way i could get it right was to do a square spline and make the polys in the right place then clone it and leave it placed on top of its self, which of course is a BAD BAD BAD way to do it,and to top it off i can't seem to get a decent curviture around them :( im having so much trouble can anyone shed some light onto how i can achive this please
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Catch me online tonight and I'll see if I can help you.
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Thanks Baz
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Also if ya post an image of your difficulties (include what you have and an example of what you need) I will try a guide in here so everyone else gets a bit of tuition :thumbsup:
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Ok here goes, *why is it telling me ok is a spelling mistake??*
Docking ring/pylons are the problem, as you can see I have the tubes going where I want and the basic main part of the housing done, I need the bits that curve from the top of each part as your see in the second picture, now to accomplish this I merged 2 squares together to be able to get the areas I need to extrude, once I done this, I used 12 cylinders of 2 different sizes to get the tubes, now below is a picture of what I've managed to get done - I DONT MIND starting the docking ring again, I'm not happy with it, so anything else you guys can suggest PLEASE DO - I want this to be perfect, not half assed. I want this to set my mark in both Legacy and BC as its somthing that not many people have made.
ok Mine
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/errors/prob.jpg)
How i want mine to Kinda look
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/errors/fix.jpg)
I mean, I can see myself how far off I am, but just getting it to look remotely right has done nothing but be my bugbear for the last 48 hours.
Thanks guys
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Ok, as promised.
This would be my method of constructing this shape (its certainly not the only way ;))
This is the method, its not an exact recreation but if you follow this technique i am sure you will get your desired results.
Step 1: Create a cylinder, once you are happy, make sure you have edge lines as shown.
Step 2: Remove the left and right faces, then cap the resulting holes in your mesh.
Step 3: Duplicate your shape, reduce its size, and then position it at the correct angle you need to make it symmetrical.
Step 4: Once in position you need to attach them, then delete the opposing inside faces.
Step 5: Once the inside faces have been deleted, you can select the opposing "holes" then bridge them, you can add as many segments as you need to make this smooth.
Step 6: You now have a basic symmetrical shape, delete un needed faces, and mirror until its one complete ring.
THIS SHOWS THE METHOD, NOT THE ACTUAL ITEM AND I HOPE IT HELPS.
final mesh is attached.
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can u explain steps 4-6 a bit more, im getting it right no matter wat i try? i use taper to make the curve but it thins it too, also the back side of it goes wrong and i can't make it semetrical for 12 sides :(
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You can try connect to create the lines or cut them in then delete the unwanted faces.
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once you have positioned the two shapes mate at the proper angles, you need to ATTACH them. Once they are attached, you can delete the two inside faces. This will leave you with the two shapes in correct positions and there respective holes. You then select the out edges of the holes on both sides. Once this has been done, use the BRIDGE command to create a connection, within this command it will allow you to choose the amount of segments you require and will distribute the segments evenly at the correct angle. you can then shape this connection as required. once you are happy with this piece, it is a case of duplicating the object and positioning it to how you need, (symmetry etc) ensure there are no opposing faces and connect the whole structure together and weld away. :thumbsup:
Ensure when positioning the shapes you use angle snap to get your angles spot on so they do line up as required
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ok guys i had a massive win today, and a epic fail :( i not only got the shape i wanted i managed to get alot of detale into it, but when i got the curving but ready i couldn't make it curved/smooth enough, and then i could not make it semetrical :( i dunno what i did wrong but its pissing the hell outta me, got any more explainations into the symetrical side of things
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maybe if you do one quarter of the mesh then clone and rotate it around.
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Are you using Max? If so, post the mesh, and I'll see what I can do with it. If I can come up with a good solution, I'll post the process, but not the mesh so that you can do it yourself.
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thanks locke, i have one more idea to try, i've been drawing some bits down on paper to give me an idea and then i'll add the detail around that, being dumb over here i was just trying to place the cylinders where it looked like they should go, but this pic i was using as reference was lets say flawed, i have noticed that its 6 large and 6 small ports each being 60 degrees difference and on the half way mark 30 degrees have a short one, so im going to build that tomorrow, the only problem will be getting the curves right, but alas i'll see what i can do :D
thanks again guys
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Just to let you guys know, but i think i've gotten somewhere so i will post pictures later for your opinions
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Well finally i have something to show you people after pain and pain and pain i have the docking area somewhat like i would like, But still may start it again, i put some ships in the picture just for shiggles but i am actually suprised how well this turned out for me :D
hope you guys like it
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/origins/Vanguard1.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/origins/Vanguard2.jpg)
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Fantastic and i love the docked ships! Perhaps a few more around it? to fill the emptiness?
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anybody else notice the Kelvin parked at one of the ports?
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It's a TOSified Kelvin
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but but but... Where's the Daed...
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Looks fab mate :)
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but but but... Where's the Daed...
Dades were retired in 2195. they were lost as often as Connies. besides, I'm betting the station itself dates from the 40-s like the connies.
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Nice work mate.
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Dades were retired in 2195. they were lost as often as Connies. besides, I'm betting the station itself dates from the 40-s like the connies.
But in the book series the SCE had an old Daed assigned to them and it was detached to the station. If that's the case then I'm sure the SCE had a couple of other Daeds as well.
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"SCE"? you never know, ONE dade might have made it...that captian would have to be as Badass as kirk. mabey it was Rebeau? (Kelvin's) ;)
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"SCE"? you never know, ONE dade might have made it...that captian would have to be as Badass as kirk. mabey it was Rebeau? (Kelvin's) ;)
Starfleet Corps of Engineers
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Yup, It, the Enterprise and a Klingon ship glassed a planet.
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Starfleet Corps of Engineers
:yeahthat:
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ok time to start the textures, now should she be the same colour as the connie or different?
aztec's?
specs??
see i just have no real recorces to really know what to do, i know it comes down to me but opinions would be awesome pls
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I'd say use the remastered K7 as a reference point mate.
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Id like it to be textured in a JJ Verse style :thumbsup:
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FINE! i'll do 3 sets
TOS - CLASSIC
TMP - FOR SHIGGLES
JJ VERSE!!
Who's up for giving me some tips and pointers as texuters are the bit i suck at and hate the most!
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I'd say get some of the deco ideas from the authors around here. Gmunoz for TOS in addition to other scources, and since Baz and Wiley are the only JJers around, really...
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I would download Wileys JJ Connie and take a look at his textures, they really are a great piece of art. For TMP stuff I would look for Adonis's ships around that era and for TOS my fav is still the Old master LS (Lord Schtupp) :bow: :thumbsup:
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just a small update im having a hell of a time breaking this model up for textures so is my k7 so im at a loss at the moment sorry guys but i will keep trying
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Guys i'm having so much trouble breaking my Vanguard down and also my k7 for texturing, anyone give me some pointers ???
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Whats the problem?
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I can't seem to map it to be Textureabley deisirable, i can't find a happy medium where i think the mapping looks right and i can see all that i need to texture
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You've probably answered this one before, but what program are you modeling with?
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mapping can be a slow process but one definitely worth taking your time with, I usually UVW Unwrap all the way, and map the lot ensuring it is scaled the same way through the entire mesh. Can you post an image of what ur having difficulties with.
You've probably answered this one before, but what program are you modeling with?
He is using 3ds max mate.
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MAKE SURE you use the "checker" texture that comes with MAX when your unwrapping the model, its the BEST way to make sure its accurate, when the squares are actually square your golden. PM me if you need any advice, theres some tricks to mapping that i use that can make life easier for you ;)
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i just posted a tutorial up on my webpage, it can be found in the "other downloads" section. in case anyone other than Phoenix needs the advice.
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Just an update for everyone on my Connie, shes Basically finished now and will be giving her to some lucky sod to HP for me if they would be so kind, but once she's 100% the other KITBASH'S will follow VERY VERY quickly followed closely by my rommies, so keep your eyes peeled ORIGINS IS FINALLY COMING TO TOWN!!!
Quick note I have ONLY incressed the specs to SEE them, in game they will not be this over powering,
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/294864_2224111438079_1106546365_32631859_3449639_n.jpg)
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/291800_2224111758087_1106546365_32631860_6366140_n.jpg)
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/295684_2224112158097_1106546365_32631862_3837251_n.jpg)
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/254703_2224113158122_1106546365_32631865_4454898_n.jpg)
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/254733_2224113558132_1106546365_32631866_6558208_n.jpg)
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/184185_2224114078145_1106546365_32631868_6149349_n.jpg)
Hope you all like them
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woot looking awesome man!
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MAKE SURE you use the "checker" texture that comes with MAX when your unwrapping the model, its the BEST way to make sure its accurate, when the squares are actually square your golden. PM me if you need any advice, theres some tricks to mapping that i use that can make life easier for you ;)
shoulda thought of that, myself.
yk, this looks like the little bit of specs i saw in TOS remastered.
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I can HP if you need it
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Very, very nice.
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I can HP if you need it
Oh Yes Please!
Very, very nice.
Really? Thanks Wiley means alot :D
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Whenever you have a model just send it to me. Feds should be easy to hp, but for Rommies, Tholians and some Klingons you might want to send a list of weapons, or a ortho with the weapons pointed out, it's the easiest way.
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thanks mate, as soon as i get my LOOK OVER from my mate travis i'll get hold of you, can u add me on msn and skype if u have them,
Msn = killfactor2001@hotmail.com
skype = phoenixfett
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I will whenever I can install skype again on my new computer
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Great Connie man! :D
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Looks awesome!!! How many textures does it feature Fett??
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Wow, stunning. Looking forward to the variants / kitbashes.
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Looks awesome!!! How many textures does it feature Fett??
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Wow, stunning. Looking forward to the variants / kitbashes.
u can see most of them if u scroll though this thread but thanks guys :D
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glad to see you got her unwrapped and textured, hope the tutorial was a bit of help?
looking good btw! :thumbsup:
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oh no its not this i had this unwrapped AGES ago, its my vangaurd station i can't do - and even with the extra help STILL having hell of a time getting it right :( - just at a lost point with it - So any one WILLING to unwrap vangaurd and maybe later K7 for me??
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oh no its not this i had this unwrapped AGES ago, its my vangaurd station i can't do - and even with the extra help STILL having hell of a time getting it right :( - just at a lost point with it - So any one WILLING to unwrap vangaurd and maybe later K7 for me??
id volunteer if i wasnt soo backed up with my own stuff..
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Well done. She's a beauty!
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ok this is mainly for Q from the cjg network but some of u other people might want to know too So
"Wat is the difference between the Mk1 Mk2 and Mk3 Connie?"
Well here we go order is mk1 left/mk2 middle/mk3 right
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/connieinfo.jpg)
Yes i know its BIG deal with it, Basically the main deck 2/3 has different number of lights for each deck. above them u can see nacelle ends, mk1 and mk2 didnt have the White globe instead they had 2 different pattens on as u can see above the mk3 is plain as it has the white globe so no silly comments please, as you can see with the actual saucer its self its basically just cossmetics the windows around the saucer change for each mk but i never bothered with that (YET!) now, also there was a difference On the front of the bussards, the mk1 and mk2 two had antenna's which the mk3 didnt, also the MIRROR universe Enterprise used the MK2 connie just to let you know, also 2 other small things, the bridge section on the mk1 and two where BIGGER and so was the main sensor, last but not least where the impulse, the mk1 had 4 engines the mk2/3 only have 2. the biggest difference on the saucer was the mk1 HAD NO HULL LINES AT ALL!!....now here are 3 more pics for ya
the first image i forgot to incress the bridge to the right size
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/connie-mk1.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/connie-mk2.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/connie-mk3.jpg)
hope this helps any more questions just post and ask?!!!
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Now onto the important stuff
As requested by Muldrf and Cj from CJG :D
The ptolemy class tug / cargo vessel - all i need to do is texture the cylinder now and its done
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/293386_2227593925139_1106546365_32638188_1290331_n.jpg)
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Well, if you're going that route, I might also suggest you make the bridge dome a bit taller too on the Pilot and 2nd Pilot Enterprises. There are also texture differences in them also as there appears to be a window in the front of the bridge.
Just thought you should know! :)
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Also, the bussard collectors or the Pilot and Cage versions (antennae versions) should be a simpler dark red glow than the Production version. Try looking at the HD TOS Remastered screenshots.
For windows, find the instructions for the Polar Lights 1:1000 TOS USS Enterprise. They seem to do a great job about the minor differences for each ship- even the subtle differences in the registries for the 7's and R's.
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now, wait a minute. I can see where you got the "Mk 2" data from (the Cage/Where no man pilots), but where did you get "Mk 1" appearance info? this is the first time i've even HEARD of that configuration.
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For windows, find the instructions for the Polar Lights 1:1000 TOS USS Enterprise. They seem to do a great job about the minor differences for each ship- even the subtle differences in the registries for the 7's and R's.
wiley im not having any luck finding what you mean?? you have a link or somthing??
Well, if you're going that route, I might also suggest you make the bridge dome a bit taller too on the Pilot and 2nd Pilot Enterprises. There are also texture differences in them also as there appears to be a window in the front of the bridge.
Just thought you should know! :)
thats ok mate just forgot to do it for the pic, i did mention that it had a larger bridge dome, along with a larger sensor dish
now, wait a minute. I can see where you got the "Mk 2" data from (the Cage/Where no man pilots), but where did you get "Mk 1" appearance info? this is the first time i've even HEARD of that configuration.
KCS - Mk1 was the cage, Mk2 was where no man has gone before Mk3 was the rest :D - though u would like to know :D
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A new Ptolomey? the one in TCMP is great, but not everyone has bandwidth to dwnld a Whole Pack, so a seperate one is Great toooo
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http://www.round2models.com/files/instructions/pol803.pdf
try this
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Thanks baz, that helped with most things but not the windows, but still going to help with other things, Thanks bro :D
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So Far 100% finished ships
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/bc-origins/constitution-top.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/bc-origins/constitution-side.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/bc-origins/constitution-bottom.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/bc-origins/constitution-aft.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/bc-origins/constitution-fwd.jpg)
KELVIN CLASS
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/bc-origins/kelvin-top.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/bc-origins/kelvin-side.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/bc-origins/kelvin-bottom.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/bc-origins/kelvin-aft.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/bc-origins/kelvin-fwd.jpg)
Vindicator Class
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/bc-origins/vindicator-top.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/bc-origins/vindicator-side.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/bc-origins/vindicator-bottom.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/bc-origins/vindicator-aft.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/bc-origins/vindicator-fwd.jpg)
Battle Bird Class Romulan Heavy Cruiser
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/bc-origins/battlebird-top.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/bc-origins/battlebird-side.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/bc-origins/battlebird-bottom.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/bc-origins/battlebird-aft.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/bc-origins/battlebird-fwd.jpg)
Bird Of Prey Class Scout Cruiser
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/bc-origins/bop-top.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/bc-origins/bop-side.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/bc-origins/bop-bottom.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/bc-origins/bop-aft.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/bc-origins/bop-fwd.jpg)
Proxima
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/216545_1918415795879_1106546365_32244325_515081_n.jpg)
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/205570_1918415395869_1106546365_32244323_1435560_n.jpg)
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/205146_1918415035860_1106546365_32244321_4181295_n.jpg)
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/207082_1918414795854_1106546365_32244320_227653_n.jpg)
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/216961_1918414435845_1106546365_32244319_7435489_n.jpg)
(http://screenshots.filesnetwork.com/105/news2/45711_2.jpg)
Saratoga
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/199398_1885253006830_1106546365_32201524_6155360_n.jpg)
Argo Class
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/205552_1914177889934_1106546365_32239445_7817111_n.jpg)
Saladin
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/216810_1914174729855_1106546365_32239438_6132008_n.jpg)
Apollo
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/205599_1914178289944_1106546365_32239446_120796_n.jpg)
Hudson - Finished ready for porting
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/216015_1914176929910_1106546365_32239443_3118401_n.jpg)
Sunhawk - Being Textured *Atolm's & Wicked Zombies Design*
D-7/StormBird - Spec Map's need doing
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/205039_1921377149911_1106546365_32248696_3446390_n.jpg)
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/215214_1921376469894_1106546365_32248694_708105_n.jpg)
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/215724_1921375749876_1106546365_32248693_872131_n.jpg)
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/207618_1921375109860_1106546365_32248692_2342376_n.jpg)
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/221832_1921374549846_1106546365_32248691_6889706_n.jpg)
and now onto my newest one
Ptolemy is finally finished so here are some pics for you guys, one showing what its like with out the pod (cargo canister)
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/295938_2230245111417_1106546365_32642252_7766568_n.jpg)
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/293110_2230244631405_1106546365_32642247_4888558_n.jpg)
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/294488_2230244391399_1106546365_32642246_5879875_n.jpg)
Edit forgot my tos saratoga
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Wow! Awesome collection and really well done.
Great job
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Awh... No Federation class...
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OK OK OK!!!! F*CK SAKE!!!! lol i'll do that next, not like i've got most of it done :D
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Are you going to release these all separate or as a pack because they're.....terrific! Really good job - looks like we got our next GMunoz :D
TOS rules!
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Thought I would tease you guys with something.
I have been put in charge of the rest of the BC conversion of this project, so here is what to expect weapon wise for the
Constitution Class-
Production-
4 Dual Phaser turrets (Remastered Blue)
2 Photon Torpedo tubes (Remastered Red)
Torpodes- 150 Photon
Where No Man Has Gone Before-
3 Dual Phaser Turrets (TOS Early Red)
2 Photon Torpedo Tubes (TOS Early Blue)
Torpodes- 100 Photon
The Cage-
3 Dual Laser Turrets (Yellow)
2 Photonic/Photon Torpedo Tubes (White/Red and TOS Early Blue)
Torpedoes- 50 Photonic + 10 Photon
I may also create a "Enterprise Incident" HP with a cloak...
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Very cool, can't wait to see more.
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:drool:
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Well it was going to be a pack, But do you guys think i should release seperatly as well??
Ok, made a new poll, this will at least give me an good idea of HOW i want to proceed with it
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Well two main reasons I do Not like , large packs [one or five ships is ok]
1. the download time of a Large Pack, can be more than some peoples bandwidth can take,
2. what if, for example I want two , three ships only , I got to download the Whole pack, and bandwidth problem comes up.
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Ok, my next ship :dance
The U.S.S SWACS
SWACS Class ship - Space Warning And Control System
Used to help smaller ships know the location of enemey fleets in the system as a way to boost the federation's tactical advantage, originally designed to try and help twart the threat of the romulans being able to cloak, Hope you enjoy!
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/294640_2233757199217_1106546365_32646418_2398489_n.jpg)
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/299930_2233757799232_1106546365_32646419_6288852_n.jpg)
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/294035_2233758079239_1106546365_32646420_1310110_n.jpg)
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Smart, a predecessor of the Nebula.
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These are really great and very well done. I am glad to see that a talented modeler appreciates the TOS timelines as I do. If any of the HPs from the ships I have released would be of help, please feel free to use them.
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bout time GM, give us an update on the kid?
actually, ol GM allready made a TOSed nebula, but this is gonna be a logical addition. too bad it can't be tweaked into actually seeing THOUGH the game's cloaks.
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bout time GM, give us an update on the kid?
actually, ol GM allready made a TOSed nebula, but this is gonna be a logical addition. too bad it can't be tweaked into actually seeing THOUGH the game's cloaks.
it should be possible?!??!?
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Thanks for asking King, Baby Boy is doing great.
I was thinking up a script to do just that (make cloak ships visible) and increase sensor range of All Fed ships in the area.
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Yeah, bit similar to the blockade that was created between Klingon and Romulan empire by Picard and fleet during the crisis within the Klingon Empire..
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That would be a pretty interesting change. Kind of like the NTDS that the Navy uses. With the Hawkins and Kubrick in game already plus this SWACS cruiser it could open a whole new area for play.
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Oooohhh, that's a nifty little thing.
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yk, I just got an idea for three names for this
USS Somerset
USS New York
USS Arlington
and if you know what real ships those are, you know WHEN they should be released.
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He's really going to have to get working to have them ready in time if he's going with those names King, I like the names myself being a former Navy man myself.
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Guys just want to know - Who actually wants to see a FEDERATION CLASS???
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I wouldn't call it the SWACS. Seems weird to call it by its role. Then the first Connie would've been called the USS Five Year Explorer and the first Miranda the USS Cannon Fodder. :P
To keep the throwback to the AWACS aircraft, you could call it the USS Sentry and possibly the USS Mainstay. If you don't know what these are, google "awacs sentry" and "awacs mainstay".
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Guys just want to know - Who actually wants to see a FEDERATION CLASS???
/me raises hand
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Federation Class=
(http://macroblog.typepad.com/macroblog/images/win_button.jpg)
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Sentry is a better name...Mainstay is just another way of saying Cannon Fodder :D
I wouldn't call it the SWACS. Seems weird to call it by its role. Then the first Connie would've been called the USS Five Year Explorer and the first Miranda the USS Cannon Fodder. :P
To keep the throwback to the AWACS aircraft, you could call it the USS Sentry and possibly the USS Mainstay. If you don't know what these are, google "awacs sentry" and "awacs mainstay".
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i would and the federation refit as well
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I'd like a Federation Class.
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i would and the federation refit as well
im not doing tmp but when i do release my tmp ships i have done
(oberth/Gardian/Oberth Medical) - i might ask a couple of people i know if i can kitbash theres - if thats what u ment?
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Ok so after asking about the federation i actually got a few Yes's Which i must admit i didnt really expect, seems to be quite a populer little*big* ship. Now as you all know it has 3 nacelles. NOW the nacelle on the top is the same as the ones on the main pylons *cannonly* which has a Regestry number on one side and the flux thing and pipes etc on the other, NOW i see these as a loop now with two nacelles these pipes face each other and in my opinion help create a stable warp field, SO what would happen if there was 3, Imoh the one at the top would STOP the flow since it dosnt have the pipes on both sides, - now i know this is not cannon *i can get away with it on my ships as they're my design or my interpritation* but i've opted out of cannon and gone for a dual sided nacelle on the top, so both sides look like this!
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/319384_2240970819553_1106546365_32654660_3178373_n.jpg)
So now i've been openly honest - LET THE FLAMING BEGIN :evil: lol
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/320247_2240946578947_1106546365_32654621_4765490_n.jpg)
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/311420_2240946938956_1106546365_32654622_6458346_n.jpg)
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/299214_2240947298965_1106546365_32654623_7799972_n.jpg)
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/296509_2240947578972_1106546365_32654624_5230058_n.jpg)
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/305199_2240947938981_1106546365_32654625_2549008_n.jpg)
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Flaming not necessary you used common sense, good work.
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this is why I asked for a little texture help with the star empire, which is basically a pointier Fed class.
you inspired the idea, after all, Phoenix.
might as well plug while I'm here. I'm retexturing the SFRD Star Empire AND i think I'm gonna issue it myself with the hardpoint I originally made for it.
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nice
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Finished Products
FEDERATION
Mk3 Constitution Class
Kelvin Class
Federation Class
Apollo Class
Saladin Class
Proxima Class
Ptolemy Class
Argo Class
Hudson Class
Swacs Class
Vindicator Class
Saratoga Class
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ROMULANS
Battle Bird
Bird Of Prey
Stormbird
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WIP'S
ROMULANS
Senegal - Texturing now
Vulture - Needs Texturing
Sunhawk - Needs Texturing
BattleBird X Type - Finalizing
Federation
Newton Class - Needs Texturing
K7 - Needs Texturing/Mapping
Vangaurd Station - Needs Texturing/Mapping
Phase 2 *nix rendition* - Texturing
Oberth Class - Needs Texturing
Constellation Class - Modelling
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I think it looks better than the original design. I'm still not a fan of the front and back of the secondary hull, but I can't blame you. Feel free to make your own derivatives.
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excellent thinking the doubled nacelle config would enhance the warp field giving her greater control in warp but would be a plasma hog in terms of fuel consumption. Most Logical. (I ouwld put in a smiley but theres no vulcan smilies available) so have a dawg cookie
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Nice work. :thumbsup:
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Are you in the process of converting?
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if im to be 100% honest i wanted to finish off the federation class first and that's my objective for tomorrow start changing all the textures to tga and then the max to nif - speaking about textures i make mine all ine 2048x2048 now for computers etc what should i do
HIGH - 2048x2048
MED - 1024x1024 OR
Super - 2048x2048
High - 1024x10x24
Med - 512x512
low - Wat ever lol ???
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High- 2048x2048
Med- 1024x1024
Low- 512x512
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Sweet - Get them done tomorrow it'll take me about a day or maybe two to learn the CORRECT procedure for porting to nif but after that, *ill ask wiley and baz for help if need be* u should have them and u can start your Hp'ing - at the point I need to get my a$$ in gear and install my BC! lol
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Nice work.
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Well done.
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One thing's for certain...I won't be forgetting my origins anytime soon... :D
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Guys just to let you know the MK1 MK2 and MK3 are nearly ready to be sent to Deadthunder for porting - had a few issues i wasnt awear of but have fixed them and getting them prepped now :D
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FUN FUN FUN!!!
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FUN FUN FUN!!!
IN THE SUN SUN SUN!
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IN THE SUN SUN SUN!
... I want to lie, ship wrecked on comotoase, drinking fresh mango juice. Goldfish shoales nibbling at my toes......(you know the rest) :D
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... I want to lie, ship wrecked on comotoase, drinking fresh mango juice. Goldfish shoales nibbling at my toes......(you know the rest) :D
Funny, just finished watching those on DVD just last night lol
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Ah good times, can't wait for these feds they look awesome. What's the drain gonna be on the old comp for these ships?
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Do you plan on doing any Klingon Ships?
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Just gotta finish off a couple of other bit's but here she is
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/310216_2262555919167_1106546365_32686636_7096819_n.jpg)
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/302489_2262556439180_1106546365_32686639_6593803_n.jpg)
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/302948_2262556999194_1106546365_32686641_4576553_n.jpg)
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Oh nice, cookie
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Do you plan on doing any Klingon Ships?
wasnt planing on it but will eventually
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A very logical looking predecessor, very nice.
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wasnt planing on it but will eventually
I'm going to be an a**hole and give you a :D please do! I'm so digging all your ships.
jb76 edit - please try and avoid vulgarity...
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One of my all time favourites!
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Sweet! Nice Miranda!
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Ok here is the Jayden class, made for my close and personal mate Phil "Mindwipe" Morris. It was named after his 2nd son of course Jayden! - Before anyone mentions the second sensor at the bottom of the saucer - I FORGOT TO DEL IT PLAIN AND SIMPLE!!! lol - yer oh well - got picked up by some one on my facebook for the asylum - TYPICAL! lol so i hope you enjoy her
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/304723_2264247321451_1106546365_32689372_1618545_n.jpg)
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/295876_2264247001443_1106546365_32689369_3763152_n.jpg)
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/295978_2264247081445_1106546365_32689370_2798670_n.jpg)
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/316907_2264247161447_1106546365_32689371_5270096_n.jpg)
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Intresting design, kinda like. but you said you'd forgot , so there it is
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:bow: Adonis is the Best! :bow: - a little hero worship never goes amiss
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/310138_2267931533554_1106546365_32693660_5096103_n.jpg)
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Not only that but the Constitution Class HPs are DONE!!!!! All 3!
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Awesome, Looks like she is right off the T.O.S. remix.
Great job on both. :thumbsup:
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SWACS HP Done!
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Yes!! - digs though cds looking for bridge commander
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SWACS HP Done!
Any update ian?
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Just got home from school, did some reorganizing, and got all the textures to show up except the bussards which we discussed, the shuttlebays and the back of the right nacelle. on all ships, nest HPS are the Federtation (Based of SWACS Because they are close to the same ship) The Hudson, Apollo, and Saladin.
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Confused me what did you mean?? - ok UPDATE for every one, except for wiley as hes already in and actually dont really get to choose Deadthunder or not really since hes doing the rest of the work lol - i want 5 more people to beta when its ready - HOPING one will be baz let me know people?
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Don't Forget Tally!
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Who's call and can u explain ur last post didnt understand what u ment bout the nacelles and the shuttle bay etc please
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Here you go
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all fixed and link is in a pm, all people wanting to beta sign up here not via pm and I will make the desistions so please dont go to deadthunder we will discuss it together at the end
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I would consider it an honor and a pleasure to beta for you :D
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As a big T.O.S. fan, I'll take up the call too if needed. :salute2:
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I would very much like to Beta these ships Phoenix!
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Saladin and Apollo are done, so the completed list is expanded to
100% HP 0% Ingame Scripting/TDIE
Constitution MK1
Constitution MK2
Constitution MK3
SWACS
Saladin
Apollo
90% HP 0% Ingame Scripting/TDIE
Federation
Miranda
Vindicator
Jayden
Kelvin
Hudson
70% HP 0% Ingame Scripting
Ptolemy
Ptolemy with pod
Cargo Pod
Scripts Complete-
Red Photon Torpedo
Blue Photon Torpedo
Yellow Photonic Torpedo
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if you dont mind, ill beta for you :)
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Saladin and Apollo are done, so the completed list is expanded to
100% HP 0% Ingame Scripting/TDIE
Constitution MK1
Constitution MK2
Constitution MK3
SWACS
Saladin
Apollo
90% HP 0% Ingame Scripting/TDIE
Federation
Miranda
Vindicator
Jayden
Kelvin
Hudson
70% HP 0% Ingame Scripting
Ptolemy
Ptolemy with pod
Cargo Pod
Scripts Complete-
Red Photon Torpedo
Blue Photon Torpedo
Yellow Photonic Torpedo
this is so all over my head lol!
ok so Beta testers are
Baz
Wiley
me *of course*
Deadthunder
Cyan1d3
Cao_D
theconstable6
Dnwalsh79
tiqhud
Nebula *if i can get hold of him*
and some one dead mentioned, that should be enough :D so we just gotta wait now, got some things to fix for dead but at least he'll have the scripting and hp's done
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Well was to late, oh well, just wait for release.
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Bad news..... I lost all files due to a bug in an antivirus software :cry:
Will have to redo all of it :mad:
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Bad news..... I lost all files due to a bug in an antivirus software :cry:
Will have to redo all of it :mad:
may I offer you a TIP: I keep all of the ships, I HP on a flash drive. because That stuff Will happen.
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Advice TAKEN!!!
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oh crap, how long will that take for you to fix?
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oh my!!! models textures and all?? Good Lord!!! thats horrible! Good luck rebuilding it all
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Bad news..... I lost all files due to a bug in an antivirus software :cry:
Will have to redo all of it :mad:
haha excuese :P
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Luckily I a just the HP Guy, I still have models and textures, and a base Constitution HP.
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Hardpoints can always be redone- ships on the other hand, take a bit more time.
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i think if i lost ALL of origins work i would probably cry and find the nearest tall building :eek
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I think that before I rehp, we need to get all the regs, and all of the bussards ready for........
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well can't u start while im getting that done as u have the basic ship, coz once saved can't u just place the hp over to the new ship?
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ok guys sorry for the lack of updates i've had nothing but problems this last month - i've been trying to suss out animated bussards using nifskope but NO LUCK so for now they're have to be static :( im sorry for lack of updates though i really am, just real life decided to be a bitch and give me a hell of a hard time - i promise as soon as i can concentrate again i'll get right back to it :( sorry again people
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Dude! No worries. No apology necessary. We're lucky to have you and all the other modders provide us with the awesome stuff we get.
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:yeahthat:
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ok guys sorry for the lack of updates i've had nothing but problems this last month - i've been trying to suss out animated bussards using nifskope but NO LUCK so for now they're have to be static :( im sorry for lack of updates though i really am, just real life decided to be a bitch and give me a hell of a hard time - i promise as soon as i can concentrate again i'll get right back to it :( sorry again people
Animated bussards? ah, well, I think you have to have max 3 for that like you do for making bridges and characters. of course, no-one with 3 wants to bother with the characters...
didn't Baz have a tutorial for that?
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Well like I said catch me online and I'll see if I can do the conversion for you.
The main problem is I'm moving home next Tuesday (fingers crossed) so I will be without the internet (other than work) till at least the 30th Oct.
If you can wait to get my shipyards up and running again I'll help.
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i can wait baz thank you but there is a few :( lol but thank you, i'll have everything packed up for u and ready to send as soon as ur free :D good luck with the move!! where bouts in england u moving now??
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Leaving Ealing in London and return to my hometown of Reading.
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*resists the urge of pun barrage* :D
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*resists the urge of pun barrage* :D
indulge me?
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Just a little word play with the place names, mostly bad puns in same manner as Mike Meyers did in Austin Powers.
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Don't see it :lostit: :facepalm: :banghead: lol
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neither do I.
other than baz "redding up" to move to Reading :P
(you have to be from Pennsylvania to get that one)
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Hello - Guess whos back! - NO NOT DJ! damn well that joke didnt work! - well firstly i'd like to say sorry for the disapearing act, studio time for an album is a pain in the AR$E but been having fun, but to top that off my rig died :( *hold up the que card with AWW!!! on it* - now after nearly a WHOLE GOD DAMN MONTH of shifting though all my back ups, damaged hdd and all that crap i have finally found EVERYTHING - only problem is i have to reset all the texture locatons (ie where they are, c:\nixisanoobandlostallhisworknearly\learntoorgansie\makeregularbackupsutit...) so feel free to start the flame fest my way about nearly losing everything - now i know u guys wont care - but its looking less and less like LEGACY will see anything to do u origins as i just dont have the time lol - now as soon as i have finally got everything in a directer i want so i know EXACTLY where everything is, i will be sending the mesh's to Baz who has kindly offered to sort out my animated bussards, and then wiley has kindly offered his bussard texture as long as he's in on the beta - i mean really??? as if i'd stop him dj or baz even asking - ledgends of our traid u best belive im honored for u to test! - anyway enough of the bull5h1t xmas is coming and i wont have much time due to familly commitments and work plus my health but i promise as soon as i can i will get right back to this, you have my word! and again im getting piffed with my self - i want to play my ships in bc last one i did was back in 2004 thats 7 bludy years lol ok guys seasons greetings and blessed be!
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Well as before. I'll be standing by when needed.
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Id be honored to beta or anything [but may I ask for textures in the 1024ish range or 512ish ]
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Count me in. :dance :yay:
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I'd love too!
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It would be an honour to help test these magnificent vessels!
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I'm still all about being a Bets for you Phoenix!
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Ive betad for WC a few times...i wouldn't mind trying my hand at checking out your vessels...
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I can start HPing soon, I'm on a temporary rig now, but if the textures can get worked out, and all then it would take a hard weekend of work to hp all of the Federation ships and another to finish off the rest.
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ok thats what i'll do sunday then as i have a gig tonight, i'll put them all into the right place and send them to baz for the moving bussards - i mean if its too much for him i may just have to release with out moving bussards :(
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I'm away monday to friday so can work around that time is not a problem.
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Hey all, just a quick favor if possible, has some one got the Star Trek fonts?? its all i seem to of actually lost after my rig dying! lol now I'm ready to finalize everything so I'm getting all excited :D
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http://members.outpost10f.com/~lindax/hp/multimedia/star_trek_fonts.html
Also sent you a PM. :)
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This is all the ones I have
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3697428/fonts.rar
enjoy :thumbsup:
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Mentioned my desire to see this splendid piece of work through before, but once more I am able to help in any capacity you see fit
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Mentioned my desire to see this splendid piece of work through before, but once more I am able to help in any capacity you see fit
Well as soon as they're beta ready ur be on my list, on other news thinking of taking an old rommie from Klingon academy and giving her new life - Dunno what i plan to do with it but i really do miss this ship so keep apprised other than that i really need to get back to texturing the 2 other un-textured rommies
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THATS IT!! I've Had Enough!!! I QUIT!!!
Ok, scratch that, i've changed my mind - how about??
I'M BACK!!!!!
I'll let you guys name this one - and first person to say Thunderbird 2 get's SHOT
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/unknown1.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/unknown2.jpg)
its based off a Rommie vessel from Klingon academy, Star Fleet Academy Rommie heavy cruiser, but i just couldn't get enough references for it, so i got creative, main body is done - next for the mesh detail. Opinions before i get on with it
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I'll let you guys name this one - and first person to say Thunderbird 2 get's SHOT
Deux Thunderbird :funny
in all seriousness glad to see your back in the game
she looks great!
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IRW hvei'khenn dhael kre
Rihannsu FTW :P
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Looks more like a mix of Defiant and early Romulan BoP..
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My idea: Eshae class (Rihannsu for fierce), also known, in the Federation, as the Fury class (referring to mythological furies, the Greek/Roman embodiment of vengeance.)
Eshae (pronounced eh-SHY) would be used in the same sense as Romulan Warbirds are called the D'deridex class. Fury of course would be equivalent to Warbird.
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Will these help?
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If those are what you're going for, come up with a better bird emblem. That looks like a hummingbird.
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Will these help?
Dose this answer your question
I LOVE YOU!!!!
can u send me that mesh if u have it please would love to have more reference stuff :D
and u wanna know whats helped the most? - my new gf enjoys watching me work, and thinks its amazing how we do it...so she encouges me :D HAPPY DAYS!!!
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Its an old SFC mesh. Wht format you want it in?
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Wasn't that in KM as the Centurian class?
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3ds if possible
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Connie now in game. Just needs a couple of tweaks.
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I also want to add my new bussard textures to that Connie.
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One mistake I've noticed, the aft end caps on the nacelles shouldn't be lit up. As far as I am aware they were never lit up in the show.
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Aces: so, has Diane Duane gone and pulled out a Mike Okuda for Rihaansu?
Genty: only unlit if it stays completely canon (which has nothing but Bussards and a few windows, really) dun matter to me, I have models with both lit and unlit balls.
I've been looking foreward to these.
note: that hummingbird looks a lot better than MY ridiculous one (which is on a reskined D7 model and a reskinned TOS rom BoP) that's my dorky bird, there.
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bazz what have i fracked up?? the body has the specs but nacelles and sacuer dont - Wat have i done???
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The Centurian was awesome. It would be cool to fight against it again.
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Heres all the original files plus a 3ds and MS3D files ;)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3697428/A%27Val%20Torpedo%20Cruiser.zip
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Problems solved, specs working.
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Very nice, but the bussards are not lit up.
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There's a couple of Rihannsu dictionaries online, I'm sure my syntax is atrocious, it was a quick and dirty translation. I dare you to look it up ;)
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Very nice, but the bussards are not lit up.
So they are not, easy fix. The _glow extensions are case sensitive. I had to change the script as textures supplied had a _Glow I had to use the back light from my connies bussards and forgot to rename them _Glow from _glow.
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Since i'm home alone with nothing to do today, im endevering to make a new rommie and texture her in a day - only one problem whisky and cider is quickly dissapearing so i probably get to drunk to finish and just pass out - BUT HELL ITS WORTH A GO :P
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Well i was lonely this christmas *lol its just another day to me, dont care for the holiday* got bored so thought i would make a new rommie for ya all :D
so - Finally the Centurion IS BACK!!!
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/403904_2784566489105_1106546365_33018005_1766353583_n.jpg)
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/394465_2784566849114_1106546365_33018006_259017587_n.jpg)
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/393261_2784567329126_1106546365_33018007_1667768008_n.jpg)
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/402869_2784567809138_1106546365_33018008_909202658_n.jpg)
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/388386_2784568249149_1106546365_33018009_1064022446_n.jpg)
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that looks awesome!
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that looks awesome!
:yeahthat:
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Now we're talking!
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Guys need some opinions, what can i do for the base texture of the centurion, i mean i went with just squares like my battle bird and bop but it dont look right, so started textureing again, but i need something for a base and am really not happy - so all u artest's please give me opinions :D
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you mean the Hull paneling? Maybe you could try something reminiscent of the D'Deridix paneling
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Big up to tiqhud who's just hping the connie now ready for beta test i've already got the beta's in mind so get ready for a pm with a link soon :D
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I do like this color scheme, but Im biased, {just like the connie}
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???
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Early WIP just to wet ur appitite
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/381124_2817378509385_1106546365_33041102_541015649_n.jpg)
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Looks good to me!
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ok i lost track of who was doing what - i had it all saved to a txt file and its dissapered :banghead: so any way, i've decided to make it an open beta, i've tinkered with the specs to make them less load then when baz took pics of it for me - now there is a bug when u go into warp which i dunno what to do with :D but other than that, pls download and comment this is my first bc ship since 2004 so :D lol
Cookies to people who post some sexy screenshots - Yes im actually that much of a bc noob i dunno how to do them except the 5h1tty way of PRINT SCREEN lol
http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/origins/bc/originsbeta.rar (http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/origins/bc/originsbeta.rar)
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Beta test in progress. Screenshots under way. :assimilate
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Is she supposed to look like this..? :lostit:
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apart from u not having specs turned on Yes :D
:evil:
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apart from u not having specs turned on Yes :D
:evil:
She looks Amazing Phoenix ;)
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According the game I had them on :lostit:
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I see how it is.. it keeps switchin off by itself.. :facepalm: what the heck :wtf
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She looks Amazing Phoenix ;)
thank you cpt galaxy lol
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I see how it is.. it keeps switchin off by itself.. :facepalm: what the heck :wtf
You have to turn something off, it was just posted yesterday too lol. I'll go find it.
EDIT: And now I can't find it. >_> It had something to do with nanofx pretty sure.
EDIT2: "Bright glow bug fix" is what you need to disable. Then turn the specs on.
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Ok, I'll do that.
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okay, we got some minor misalignments, and the rear Phasers have NOT fired. i also caught some minor wrinkles in the underhull spine and the underside cove for the shutlebay.
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My critique:
Overall textures look ok, speculars look too checkerboard-like
- The under saucer sensor is way too lit up. Only the undermost dome should be lit.
Bussards look great when the system's light is shining directly on them, but everywhere else, the "little lights" in the bussard texture appear darkened (almost black).
Phasers and torpedoes not aligned properly.
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Cookies to people who post some sexy screenshots - Yes im actually that much of a bc noob i dunno how to do them except the 5h1tty way of PRINT SCREEN lol
I'm guessing that the "shitty" way is printscreen then past into paint, right? The old fashioned way? I can save you a step, when you hit Print Screen, BC automatically saves them in a file in the BC directory.
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I know the problem for the misaligned HPs, my system works VERY hard , when 2048 textures are use, makes it Hard for me to save any thin in MPE, but I got a set of 1024s from Lionus , that were in his download, and Here is the CORRECTED HP.
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I'm guessing that the "shitty" way is printscreen then past into paint, right? The old fashioned way? I can save you a step, when you hit Print Screen, BC automatically saves them in a file in the BC directory.
I think he means just as you suggests...it is quite CRAPPY when you do that.
If he's like me he wants edit function screenies :P
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I know the problem for the misaligned HPs, my system works VERY hard , when 2048 textures are use, makes it Hard for me to save any thin in MPE, but I got a set of 1024s from Lionus , that were in his download, and Here is the CORRECTED HP.
theres actually 512 in there too tiq
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My critique:
Overall textures look ok, speculars look too checkerboard-like
- The under saucer sensor is way too lit up. Only the undermost dome should be lit.
Bussards look great when the system's light is shining directly on them, but everywhere else, the "little lights" in the bussard texture appear darkened (almost black).
Phasers and torpedoes not aligned properly.
fix suggestions???
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fix suggestions???
Overall textures look ok, speculars look too checkerboard-like
Suggested fix-lighten up the checkered look on the specmaps
- The under saucer sensor is way too lit up. Only the undermost dome should be lit.
Suggested fix-the alpha channel may not be "completely black" where it should be. Believe it or not, sometimes black aint really black.
Bussards look great when the system's light is shining directly on them, but everywhere else, the "little lights" in the bussard texture appear darkened (almost black).
Suggested fix- Increase alpha whiteness in these areas, or tone down the system lights. Could be video card specific issue too
Phasers and torpedoes not aligned properly.
Suggested fix-learn how to hardpoint properly :funny :D
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hmm...he's got a point, course right now I'm buried in betas, and I wasn't looking THAT hard at the textures (I had to drop to the 512's...damn ancient graphics card). I was busy trying to shrink textures so the game wasn't doing the "robot".
i must be one of the few who actually liked the specs (it gave the ship a "remasterd version" look)
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I've been able to work out and fix the bussard problem, I actually realised what the problem was when I read the discription. The problem isn't with the export or graphics problems, it's actually to do with the bussards animation textures. The alpha channel is inverted to what it should be. With transparencies, the darker areas in the alpha channel are the areas which are more transparent in game. I hope you don't mind but I had a play around with them and came out with a decent look. Took a screenshot of the revised textures in the Void to show how they look.
Edit:Ive attatched a zip of the modified textures for you to download.
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I just took a run at a couple of my weaker Cardies with a Federation class, Origins Enterprise, and my own TOS hardpoing job, the Reyes. Origins enterprise was laid waste to pretty quickly by an old mod, while my own hardpointing job only took 6 % damage to the dorsal shield (which makes me kinda proud of myself) she needs more than a hardpoint align, she needs a bit of beefing up
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The bussards look excellent!
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Guys i love u so much, thanks for all the help :D :bow: - wiley can u tell me ur setup settings and all as ur pics are amazing :D and again HAPPY NEW YEAR TO U ALL!!
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wiley can u tell me ur setup settings and all as ur pics are amazing
I use an Nvidia Graphics card and I set my Anisotropic filtering settings to 8x, and Antialaising to 4x.
Also you have to find some good star systems. I prefer the CJones 7 system.
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I use an Nvidia Graphics card and I set my Anisotropic filtering settings to 8x, and Antialaising to 4x.
Also you have to find some good star systems. I prefer the CJones 7 system.
how do i do them settings
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how do i do them settings
I just right-mouse-click on my desktop and select NVIDIA Control Panel and select Manage 3D settings.
Plus, I don't know what graphics card or computer you have.
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I just right-mouse-click on my desktop and select NVIDIA Control Panel and select Manage 3D settings.
Plus, I don't know what graphics card or computer you have.
wrong thread lol thought i posted it here already i didn't lol i have
amd athalon 64bit 3500+ 2.20 ghz
3 gig ddr1 memory (leave me alone shes getting old)
64 bit operating system
graphics are
Nvidia Geforce 9400+ 2gig ddr2 edition
thanks :D
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Ok so most of the ships are working in game (the Apollo has a scripting issue I'm to tired to spot). All look ok just couple of glow bugs to fix.
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double post needed
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I believe the registry on some of these ships is using the wrong font. But other than that, they look pretty sweet :)
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I believe the registry on some of these ships is using the wrong font. But other than that, they look pretty sweet
:yeahthat: Using the correct fonts, correctly, can make or break a mod.
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that shouldnt be right, i used the same font on all of them :eek
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They all look like Airborn to me. That said I did notice the gap between the Registries and names looks to big. A pack of exemplar pics
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that shouldnt be right, i used the same font on all of them :eek
Names look correct. But the registry number is decidedly different. Compare the "Miranda" to the "Federation" classes, registry numbers. The Miranda looks correct, while the Federation registry number is decidedly thicker.
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Supprise!! Another vessel looking sweet as ingame
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last 1
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nix, u amazing bastard! love it!
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Very nice :dance
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The mapping on the hull left and right of the bridge seems off. Shouldn't the windows be more horizontal?
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The mapping on the hull left and right of the bridge seems off. Shouldn't the windows be more horizontal?
Just angle due to picture lol nothing to worry about
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No, he's right, the windows are all kinds of wonky.
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Shouldn't they follow lines more like this?
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No, he's right, the windows are all kinds of wonky.
Did someone said...wonky????
(http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/634/634005/charlie-and-the-chocolate-factory-20050715092008864.jpg)
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oh balls - hope its something i can fix texture wise or else i'll have to fix it then send it all the way back to baz for export :( Epic sadness
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it will be ok. We all have these kind of problems starting out :thumbsup:
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Well, got an email the other day asking if I was Phoenix from Chris Jones Gaming from some one on this site :hithead: ok ok, so maybe it wasn't well known. Any who i digres i responded to this person and quite quickly got a reply asking why i had released an Oberth pack for Star Trek Legacy, and not released it here for Bridge Commander. So last night i went looking for the source files and have sorted it out for BC, now where legacy only got 3 ships I've decided to release all of them over where which will end up being 6 ships. now when i sent these around for beta testing with UUM *Ultimate Universe Mod* and other people in legacy i got a lot of good feed back, So good infact i just released the beta's as the final, but my god they sucked as beta testers lol I've found a few mesh errors and texture errors that are big problems, for an example the bridge polys and the lower dome polys where screwed and stretch out making the top Not flat and also the impulse had a bloody big hole in it, also the Alpha Channel spot lights where CRAP!!! (thanks baz for the new alpha spot lights)
With these all fixed I'm sitting here thinking i want to REDO the windows and now she's going to need Regs (as legacy use's a seperate floating mesh using just Alpha Channels to do regs) now as a beta i will be releasing these as they are now, Reg-less and old windows. I promise as soon as I find out the best way to do the windows i will update the textures and add them to the final release, below are some quick *not high quality* renders of the ships
The Guardian Class - this use's a Miranda Weapons pod and roll bar on top and bottom
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/guardian.jpg)
Classic well known Klingon Cannon Fodder
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/oberth.jpg)
Frigate
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/frigate.jpg)
Scout
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/scout.jpg)
Heavy Scout
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/hvyscout.jpg)
Oberth Medical Ship (replaces the retired Dauntless Class)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/medical.jpg)
As state above there will be texture refinement later after the beta so tell me if u lot fancy adding these to you TMP arsenal
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I love the oberth class but your guardian class looks like it could fit into the ds9 kitbash fleet! (the one where we saw the centaur, curry class etc) Looks very nice man!
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thanks sov
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Perhaps you could change the windows? THe textures of those?
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OOH, Oberths! I've been looking forward to get something to blow up.. :evil:
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They are all very nice. One question, didyou scale down the weapons pod before mounting or are you using the 300m Oberth?
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They are all very nice. One question, didyou scale down the weapons pod before mounting or are you using the 300m Oberth?
Really?? I dunno i just added them on top i dont think it matters really now
Perhaps you could change the windows? THe textures of those?
Dont u guys read any more lol just look at the pictures?? lol - I did put quite clearly i wanna redo the windows lol
but meh, thanks for the comments guys!
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mackie did a bash where torpedo tubes were added to the cargo bays on the saucer and standard phasermounts to the saucer.
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Dont u guys read any more lol just look at the pictures?? lol - I did put quite clearly i wanna redo the windows lol
I'm a pakled. We are strong.
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Love Oberths :thumbsup:
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I'm a pakled. We are strong.
:rotflmfao: good one.
Like what you have come up with, good job. :yay:
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Really?? I dunno i just added them on top i dont think it matters really now
I just imagend them looking biger on so small a ship as all :D
I'm a pakled. We are strong.
:banghead: Oh no not again :thumbsup: :funny
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I would definitly use these.
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O.k people Origins update for you lot :D I'm expecting the last few fix's over the next few days, I'm now working on texture fix's and slight edits to make them look better, for example specs and some extra little bits of detail's I've missed (like the numbering on the Constitution hull) I will also put the textures into 1024 and 512 for lower spec machines. From then on (new models) I might try 4096x4096 and then release 2048/1024/512 etc. Lastly I just wanna say thank you to every one that has helped me with her and all the feed back you guys have given. Next stop for me finish my T.M.P Oberth pack, then get on with Origins
"Alien races" with luck this will include *definitely the first one as I've already made a few lol*
There's also a couple of other federation ships I want to try and create for Origins too, like my Proxima class I've made, all she needs is some texture refinements also I want to make a Constellation class too
Here is a list of the aliens I want to try and include, even if it is only one ship from each.
Romulans
Tholians
Klingons - if I can ever do any lol
Orion
Gorn
Any other idea's though please guys, please tell me here
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Kzinti never get enough love
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Who?? Link me with a pic or 2
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Try this :thumbsup:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CDAQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FKzinti_Hegemony&ei=IjgST9ugKKT20gGi5bGIAw&usg=AFQjCNGxZf3YIbobarZNiH9G84lpEeXYXQ
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They're like Caitians but with more ugly and feralness..
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Kzin are a crossover from Paper Sci-fi. FoaS has several Kzin models under his belt, btw
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A little render of the mark 1 connie
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/userfolders/baz1701/screenshots/1.jpg)
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Why not some of the Starfleet Command races, namingly the ISC, Hydrans, Lyrans, and Mirik
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If people can some how send me the classic texture and mesh i'd be happy too - but isnt starfleet command TMP/TNG??
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a lot of the SFC type ships are over in the unhardpointed model sections of BCfiles.
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FINALLY!!!! :yay: :yay: :yay: :yay: :yay: Home streach guys, all they need doing now is Hardpointing - Tiq ?? Ian?? Any one?? (HANDS UP PLEASE) lol - would rather have them all done by one person due to whats the right way to put it - Balanced lol
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lets see where is that icon :yeahthat:
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FINALLY!!!! :yay: :yay: :yay: :yay: :yay: Home streach guys, all they need doing now is Hardpointing - Tiq ?? Ian?? Any one?? (HANDS UP PLEASE) lol - would rather have them all done by one person due to whats the right way to put it - Balanced lol
how many ships?
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I'm assuming the latest exports were to your satisfaction? :idk: :hithead:
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I'm assuming the latest exports were to your satisfaction? :idk: :hithead:
Not tested yet in all honesty but i can't see there being a problem, i'll grab a look today and then start work on the ICONS (yes i forgot about them :()
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keep it up nix ;)
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need a HPer? well, i did get a nod for my Reyes being well done.
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heres a little treat for you guys
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/395219_3003339838302_1106546365_33135815_1662061688_n.jpg)
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/399982_3003333838152_1106546365_33135810_1669303753_n.jpg)
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/424857_3003336038207_1106546365_33135812_528869067_n.jpg)
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/428323_3003337478243_1106546365_33135813_517374919_n.jpg)
Enjoy!
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SWEET JEZUS
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Looking sharp. ;)
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That sir is as close to perfect as any of us can hope for in this life :dance :yay: :thumbsup:
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Right Hello guys - firstly wanna stress enough its not quite what u think - but im trying to build this part of a klingon bop and i can't do it - any sugestions please?
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/425195_3008403724896_1106546365_33137674_202103839_n.jpg)
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Some more ingame pictures for you guys! :D
Apollo Class
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/428853_3009217105230_1106546365_33137945_218170256_n.jpg)
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/407940_3009217665244_1106546365_33137946_544269966_n.jpg)
Federation Class
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/403326_3009218065254_1106546365_33137947_873804241_n.jpg)
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/406516_3009218865274_1106546365_33137949_1601388547_n.jpg)
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/404445_3009219385287_1106546365_33137951_824100311_n.jpg)
Hudson Class
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/409054_3009228465514_1106546365_33137969_1481598893_n.jpg)
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/400975_3009220385312_1106546365_33137953_1460010161_n.jpg)
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/395518_3009220945326_1106546365_33137955_1984038725_n.jpg)
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/405487_3009221505340_1106546365_33137956_1183693517_n.jpg)
Kelvin
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/426153_3009222225358_1106546365_33137958_1956952408_n.jpg)
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/425866_3009222985377_1106546365_33137960_1544551147_n.jpg)
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/419128_3009224065404_1106546365_33137962_493580534_n.jpg)
Saratoga
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/396716_3009224705420_1106546365_33137964_1304642122_n.jpg)
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/422330_3009225865449_1106546365_33137965_146848361_n.jpg)
Swacs
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/431172_3009226825473_1106546365_33137966_1693321179_n.jpg)
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/431510_3009232585617_1106546365_33137972_1576338175_n.jpg)
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That is amazing!!
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Those are, by far, the best TOS ships I have ever seen. They put my own canon TOS ships to shame! And those bussards, so close to exactly perfect, it's amazing. You should be proud Nix. Very very proud.
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Best. TOS ships. Ever. /comicbookguy
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Just seen from the screenies the nacelle balls have white spots. that should be a quick fix just edit the texture to get rid of the white boards. That will be far quicker than me learning how to to unwrap in Max 3 lol.
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Outstanding work Phoenix.
Cookie for you.
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Outstanding work. Cookie
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:yay: Finally over 50 cookies - now all i need is a day with a soppy love film, feel down and blue and cry and munch to my hearts content - lol - Problem being i dont actually like cookies - and if they where real i wouldnt get a look in , my girl friend would Nick them all first lol!
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Very nice! Have an oreo cookie on me!
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Very nice! Have an oreo cookie on me!
OH :'( I dont like Oreo's :(
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Have a Brownie!
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I can probably get a rig up and running over the week end and get em done in a week or so.
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Ok ok ok, i know i know i know, Overkill but what can i say, i've learned so much since making my last one i wanted to try adding to it - difference is i already have textures im SOOOO happy with, so all i will have to do is map to my textures i already have, anyway!!
I've decided to do this for more than one reason, More quality/detailed Mesh, a lower poly count - add bits onto the ship i missed in the first place, Fix all the Bug's and errors i had in my last build, and Last but not least i am NOT going to be UNIFYING any of my Mesh's - These will be released as Max files not nif's for people to be able to use what they want to make their OWN ship, Each Component will be saved under its own tittle - For Example Bridge, Main Hull, Saucer Etc then people who want to make their own ships can put the parts where they want and hopefully help them on their way to building there own ships - i got this idea originally from Baz1701 but was also inspired by a few of my friends asking me if they could have my model when i was done - So here i go again 3rd times a charm they say dont they?? lol
Ok Top view as u can see not much yet BUT i have added the Nav lights
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/395444_3035049351020_1106546365_33151685_763577996_n.jpg)
Bottom view - only HUGE difference is the rings are round NOT BLOCKY AND they meet at the end where mine dipped into a triange lol
(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/430152_3035049591026_1106546365_33151686_895869445_n.jpg)
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Good work! :yay:
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Not bad, only thing I would recommend is release them as 3DS so people with older max or other programs can use them too.
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Yea my Max 5 and milkshape both prefer 3ds file from the newer programs :thumbsup:
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Not bad, only thing I would recommend is release them as 3DS so people with older max or other programs can use them too.
Thanks for the advice - i didn't think of that so thank you
Yea my Max 5 and milkshape both prefer 3ds file from the newer programs :thumbsup:
and again I should of thought of this as I'm always getting 3DS off people so i can load the mesh in my copy of 3d Max
so thanks, anywho i thought i would show you guys the next part of my mesh - i can't belive how stupid i was and missed the taper of the nacelle - my ones on the ORIGINS pack are just tubes - STUPID ME!!! also went to town this time with the detail on the inside made it less poly but nicer looking - also the box on the sides and the 3 underneath are actually part of the mesh - not just slapped on under it lol - last thing i'll say at the moment she is a STUPID 16k poly BUT there is still a lot of poly to lost on the saucer and maybe the ball at the back and the bussards could come down a tad too - maybe the bridge, not too sure - but i wont do the major refine untill shes complete so i can see WHAT to keep and what i can lose - but still hope u like her!
Notice the more smoother mesh and the slight incline in the nacelles - Which i missed on my first two makes, also if you pay attention the the inside of the nacelle its smoother and also a more rounded cut, the Box at the end and the 3 box's underneath are now actually part of the mesh - where last time i added them as a separate pice
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/422239_3054340273281_1106546365_33158671_122849181_n.jpg)
as you can see from this shot, the front top of the nacelle also has its nav lights and also has a clear dome in front of the bussard
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/430267_3054341033300_1106546365_33158672_2052235670_n.jpg)
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WOW some spectacular ships, sumblime work :kiss:
I hope you release at least one unified HP'd Connie for those without the talent to unify the meshes ;)
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That is amazing!!
Ditto on Max.
Here's one more cookie for you - got a bit of a review coming..
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sorry guy i've forgotten who my 10 beta testers were so please let me know so i can send u the first pack
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Il have a go. :angel
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I think I volunteered to be a tester as well Phoenix.
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Me too.
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guess me
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Ok list of beta testers i've gotten are as below - look for a pm today with link to the download
King Class Scout
Baz1701
Wiley
TheConstable6
Tiqhud
Killallewoks
DMWalsh79
Lionus
Zgok
CPTbenSisko
Captain_D
KNOWN BUGS!!
All miranda veriants windows need redoing
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Just a quick one, still in the process of testing, the Federation CTD everytime I try to use it and I don't know why.
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:hithead: - tiq had the same issue yet it works ok for me and baz - Ideas any one???
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*poke* hey, Phoe...forget somebody in the beta pile?
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I just downloaded you Origins Pack, but I will not be able to report until Thursday.
I did look at the ships in the MPE, and my report will be in depth.
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Please wiley, but pls make it a pm so i dont get too embarrised by my huge f ups :banghead: now im a better mesh maker i will redo them all later but want somthing for every one now lol - i'll be up to urs and baz's standards one day lol
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I'll be sending you a bit of a report, Phoe...two of em are facepalm worthy. watch out for your install, wiley...I think he's gonna need some help.
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be nice this is my first try over here :( :facepalm: :banghead: :idk: :( :cry:
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Don't sweat it man, everyone's first mods don't live up to scrutiny at first. I remember my Surpasser class. Specs didn't go over well, smoothing groups got messed up, I realized how horribly underscaled she was... I think I want to go back and remake her how she should have been. You've got yourself a huge ship pack you need to sort out, so take it nice and slow and tackle the challenges that pop up, and it'll come out fine in the end I'm sure. ;)
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that's what I said to him last night.
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Sweet Jesus, I had no idea just how many innuendos and entendres can be gleaned from my post. :funny
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Don't sweat it man, everyone's first mods don't live up to scrutiny at first. I remember my Surpasser class. Specs didn't go over well, smoothing groups got messed up, I realized how horribly underscaled she was... I think I want to go back and remake her how she should have been. You've got yourself a huge ship pack you need to sort out, so take it nice and slow and tackle the challenges that pop up, and it'll come out fine in the end I'm sure. ;)
this is why i'm reluctant to put my first kitbash out (i'm still doing fixes). I've also dealt with "this sucks bleep, come back when your a professional" types over the years, having been online for 10 years, now.
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ok guys i've been getting lots of feed back about origins, and its alot more of a mess than i anticipated i'll blame startrek legacy in a minuet lol.
ok firstly people who have looked at it for me - should i find a way to fix the problems? - not sure how yet??
or scrap it all and start again using the new connie model i've started releasing one at a time instead of a pack?
also no matter how hard i've tried with these they're really not good enough to release but basically that as i said is the fault of legacy, STL dosen't like unified mesh's and each part or the ship using a different texture has to be its own part which means i've cut my ships up to bits for it and not needed - bloody things so with my new models i know not too - my oberth will have the same problem, but im seeing if i can't just weld it all together and unfiy it, hopefully that shouldn't be a problem, i'll finish off my connie tonight once my gf's asleep and apply the textures to her in the morning if shes ok i'll ask baz nicely to once again animate my bussards and i'll ask tiq to hp her and i'll release her instead - UNLESS Origins can be fixed
thanks for all your patience with me and from people like baz and wiley and Every one else who has chimed in thank you so so very much - i'll get there and when i do, i'll make u all proud but alas untill the rest of the review come back to me, im signing off and getting on with my new mesh :D
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Personally, IMO, Id scap this, and start anew, you were in a learning phase, start agian NP :D
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The models don't look bad at all. Why scrap them and waist all that work? What seams to be the major hicup? If you do start from scratch at least release the meshes.
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ok firstly people who have looked at it for me - should i find a way to fix the problems? - not sure how yet??
You fix one ship at a time. I could give you tips on texturing (already, yours are very good). And you could crank out one of the best TOS mods available.
Or you could continue on your new mesh. Definitely your choice.
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Both. Fix what you can on this one and continue working on the new better one. :thumbsup:
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Wiley consider your self getting bugged for texture help :D
and after chatting to baz im going to release this and say this is the prototype for my first paddle in bc's river's - next stop
THIS!!!!
all that she needs are the hull indents and the strange cone things coming from the bridge area
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/429304_340386912672347_247220475322325_1090481_1824572415_n.jpg)
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/430539_340390896005282_247220475322325_1090489_1610470943_n.jpg)
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/429451_340397129337992_247220475322325_1090495_1475270840_n.jpg)
Comments please :D
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Looks nice. just remember.. unify the damn mesh, glue everything together seamlessly and you will no more see those dreadful screenies from me. :evil:
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hey, as long as we can figure out WHAT went wrong with the 3 nacelle types for those of us with older cards, and the Miranda types with newer cards. I'm not having major trouble, myself, except with the hudson and Federation ships (which are perfectly usable as player ships)
everything else is nitpicks, as far as I'm concerned.
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Is that the issue with the Miranda's been incredibly GPU heavy if you have more than one on screen? Though the textures on these ships are wondeful. :)
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the miranda is my biggest fear, i love the texture work on her the most and im scared i wont be able to use my old textures once i remake her
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hey guys if any of you are on facebook come over and join at the asylum
http://www.facebook.com/moddingasylum (http://www.facebook.com/moddingasylum)
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A Miranda is a Mirands. You should be able to the most part map anyones texture onto any other Miranda.
For example map my TMP Miranda could in threoy map to your TOS one, or vise versa.
You can apply the same poly saving to the miranda you have done to your new connie.
The main lag problem I had with the ships was all the maps were 2048 including the spec maps they can be 512 no problem.
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No wonder I was getting CTD's.. :lostit:
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all specs where changed to 512 i'll try using 1024 texture on my rig and see what they look like - i hope it works right lol :D well onto the last part of my connie tonight and mapping tomorrow apply my old textures lol
heres a question for you guys Wiley said my nacelle texture and pylons dont match the rest of the ship - They are the same base colour??? - Ideas???
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I'm the only one that can't see that little difference. but, then again, I'm still on a CRT monitor of only 15 inches.
also, Lionus got CTD's on the Mirandas being hoggy...but I got CTD's on the triples being hoggy.
Hey, baz, if an overall mem saving measure is shrinking in general of the entire texture set (i was only given the mains to shrink), does that include the bussard animation ones?
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The bussards are already 512 so they should be fine.
I think the problems people are having is the poly count and large textures.
The new models he is working on are far more easier on the poly count so that will go some way to sorting the issues you guys with older systems are having.
As I recommended last night he (and I) have spent too much time to simply drop this mod in favour of mark 2, and on the whole they are not bad for a first time release
Just thought I show my first effort to remind people that we all have to start somewhere :facepalm:
The ships below for me anyway could have the tag "Don't forget your origins" lol
(http://bc-central.net/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4650.0;attach=24067;image)
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heres a question for you guys Wiley said my nacelle texture and pylons dont match the rest of the ship - They are the same base colour??? - Ideas???
They were each a different shade of gray in the MPE. I'll go for a lighter than medium gray (about 35-40% Black). Then the overall color can be slightly darker by adding subtle hull paneling/weathering.
On second thought, the gray you used for the Origent mesh, you could use that color, but make it a little bit lighter.
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These are the TOS colours I used for my ships.
Concrete is supposed to be the closest match to the TOS Connies hull
(http://bc-central.net/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=8334.0;attach=53686;image)
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So far Ive only CTDed with the tripled nacelled ones, [Poly count] but still nice ships
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Dont get me wrong all the problems from this mod have kinda upset me but im rising above it thinking they're not attacking they're helping and all its going to do is help me make somthing better and that is my goal - i mean poor baz i must of annoyed him somthing silly with this mod but still, he stands there beside me helping me as much as he can and i really apricate it but when i fix the problems and get onto the next one, i think i'll release each ship on its own and make sure 1 at a time they are perfect lol i think i got lost with so much nitty grittys lol - when i get to the miranda i might just do a Miranda pack as i have these as it is
Jayden
Miranda
Vindicator
Saratoga
and they are Basically the same thing so it wont take much to just do a pack, i'm going to stay strong, use all your support u've given me to release my best work i've ever done - so Thanks guys i appricate it
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Thats good to hear Phoneix, you have done some very high quality work and put a lot of effort into this pack and it shows. You have a good foundation and all you need to do is to build upon it. :)
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Indeed. and I got that shade difference between the hull and neck/pylons etc..
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sod knows how and where thats coming from lol :hithead: :doh:
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Done and sit's nicely at 32,775 polys - and still some to make smaller so i hope to be looking at just under 30k - so what do you think people???
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/426781_341021729275532_247220475322325_1091649_540284480_n.jpg)
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well i feel like i want to drop my 2 pence worth in. though i've not beta tested from what i see your far far better ship builder than many who DO release without a thought for the errors in their mods... your ships are pretty awesome, but then that's coming from me and i'm not that good lol.
All i would say is this:
don't worry about the errors, they will be fixed one way or another, and your new plan to go at a slower pace and work each ship to death is a MASTER plan. (que music from said band lol) no i mean it the few ships i have done i have always focused on them to the death. sod quantity go for quality.
and yours have quality in abundance and i'm sure many of us non beta testers would not even have noticed any errors (beta testers seem to have the uncanny knack for homing in on said errors)
keep up the great work and if you ever fancy expanding your textureing skills to more tng + ships let me know and you can have a look at my ship i'm working on now.
:bow: for awesome work
cookie for awesome work
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Ok had my ear chewed off by adonis for the heavy poly count on my connie, lol, so i thought i would just give you an update . She was 32,775 polys on Editable mesh and now sitting at 24,121 polys with STILL more polys i can get rid of - i actually think i might be able to get her to hit 20k :D now if she stays look that good, i will be over the fracking moon :D i was going to post some pictures but theres not point at all - U CAN'T TELL ANY DIFFERENCE
the BIG change so far (and all i've done thanks to Adonis) is GEOSPHERES!!!!
so changed the spheres at the back and the bussard and clear dome
Tomorrow - Poly kill on the saucer - She alone is 8k WOW!!! lol
but for today im off to bed
Night :D
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Adonis is (like his namesake), a god when it comes to modelling. He knows how to improve things on the models, without sacrificing the level of quality.
It's great to hear that you've managed to shave "some" polies off an otherwise gorgeous model. The lower the better (without losing quality).
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Ok so, in editable mesh she was 32,775 polys, then down to 24,121. Now she's sitting at 20,970 polys, so that's 11,805 polys off, hell i've seen ships build in that lol, well lets just say this, the connie that i have going around with origins is 26,978 polys and there is MORE detail in my new one, so im very very happy, and here is a small list of other bits i can save a few polys off
Shuttle bay
Observation deck/dome
deck 2/3
Nacelle intercoolers
if i sound excited its coz i actually really am :D - like a kid in a candy store :dance :yay: :yay:
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*takes away the shilling before you get sick*
i dunno how much more you're gonna pare off. oh, that reminds me, Someone was asking me what some of the bits were and why they're there (like the stuff your trying to pare down). but, since so many people have seperate theories...personally, I'd rather get word of god from Matt Jeffries, since he actually designed the thing :P
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not taking away, just lowing the poly count of them bits as its not needed
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Ok shes finished, and mapping and texturing has started, i will redo the reg since i've just slapped them on there for this pic. textures are 4096 x 4096
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/407178_343192645725107_247220475322325_1097513_1495331767_n.jpg)
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textures are 4096 x 4096
:eek most I've seen is 2048's this far.. i think.
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Ok shes finished, and mapping and texturing has started, i will redo the reg since i've just slapped them on there for this pic. textures are 4096 x 4096
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/407178_343192645725107_247220475322325_1097513_1495331767_n.jpg)
Quality! Epic! You sir, shall receive not an oreo cookie but a big, sweet pancake cookie!
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The registry doesn't look quite right.
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i will redo the reg since i've just slapped them on there for this pic.
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since i didnt do the sensor panel at the bottom of the saucer, and the rest of the ship's not textured i thought i would just upload a picture of this bit so u can see how she looks
so please no one say the middle bottom dont look right lol, thats coz the senor bits not there, well thats me done for the night, so Good night!
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/424400_343383179039387_247220475322325_1098070_1116420197_n.jpg)
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Sweet, can't wait to see more. :-P Now, to bug you on WLM to get more of those WIP pictures. lol Just kidding.
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Looks nice so far. The landing triangles/pads are a bit dark, but some weathering could blend them in.
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Looks nice so far. The landing triangles/pads are a bit dark, but some weathering could blend them in.
i was Wondering what they are for - i take it after saucer sep they help the ship land on a planet in an emergency??
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Yes on the third leg is under the neck.
On the refit there are four landing pads and a more clear seperation plan on the neck.
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Contemplates an MVAM connie :angel
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wait, the third leg on the TOS was in the neck?
I still wonder what's with the red and orange decoration in the window clusters
4096's will be a bit too much for anything but modern deliberate gaming rigs, but, whatever makes your cuppa.
and, baz, still got your MVAM refit, too.
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Contemplates an MVAM connie :angel
Been there, done that lol but not TOS.
(http://bc-central.net/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5769.0;attach=29548;image)
(http://bc-central.net/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5769.0;attach=29550;image)
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No offense to the ship models... but that looks... bad :P
"MVAM" on a TOS/TMP Connie is just a bad idea entirely, since there aren't any impulse engines on the stardrive. How would the stardrive move after separation? Likewise, how would a saucer go into warp without warp drive?
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I don't think it is a bad idea, the galaxy class saucer doesn't have warp engines either. But I assume that the saucer would be just a big lifeboat and the stardrive left behind, if it was too damaged. lol Unless they used the shuttles as tugs. :-P
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No offense to the ship models... but that looks... bad :P
"MVAM" on a TOS/TMP Connie is just a bad idea entirely, since there aren't any impulse engines on the stardrive. How would the stardrive move after separation? Likewise, how would a saucer go into warp without warp drive?
It was meant as an emergency system. As in, warp core breach imminent and core ejection systems aren't working.
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No offense to the ship models... but that looks... bad :P
"MVAM" on a TOS/TMP Connie is just a bad idea entirely, since there aren't any impulse engines on the stardrive. How would the stardrive move after separation? Likewise, how would a saucer go into warp without warp drive?
How are we so sure that the stardrive wasn't equipped with "emergency" impulse engines?
Look at the Daedalus Class, the impulse engines were built into the rear section of the warp engines... I don't see why that couldn't also be implemented on the Constitution Class.
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I'm reading the star trek book called Q zone. Apparently, the sovereign class is able to saucer seperate too :D
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Ever since she was designed, it was envisioned. It's just that when it came to the modelling, the plane was never really defined on the dorsal part, just aft of the shuttlebay. The division was eliminated even more with the more streamlined Nemesis refit.
(http://www.starshipdatalink.net/art/images/dee-7.jpg)
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Well if you look at all of the classes that an Enterprise has been(minus the NX) it looks like they all could do it easily.
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Ok so had a big day today texturing my new constitution class, i have textured the main hull, the nacelle and started on the MISC texture too. I have decided to upload a few pics so you guys can see how she is fairing
First up is the deflector array,this time instead of using a single base colour,Brown last time i think, i decided to try and make it a little bit more real, so i found a picture of some copper on google, polar coordinated it and then using a darker colour done 2 rings where the ridges where, added a drop shadow and a bevel, i think it looks quite good
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/419998_344778792233159_247220475322325_1101409_1275956934_n.jpg)
inside and pylon just showing the inside of the pylon and nacelle as you can see still not finished yet
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/421648_344779198899785_247220475322325_1101410_1139574072_n.jpg)
side view so far
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/424583_344779528899752_247220475322325_1101411_923146416_n.jpg)
what you guys think so far?
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You know, no matter how many iterations of this class of ship is made, I never get tired of a new one.
Excellent work.
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Does it just look that way because of a slight perspective or are the Nacelle Pylons indeed angled forward?
(Sorry if that doesn't make sense, i don't know hot to express that properly atm)
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i think i know what u mean, Actually yes i have tilted them slightly Just so u can see thats all lol
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She looks astonishing, can't wait for your variants. :D
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You know, no matter how many iterations of this class of ship is made, I never get tired of a new one.
Excellent work.
Here, Here, :yay:
Great work and detail so far. :thumbsup:
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Coming along nicely. Always a pleasure to see another version of this classic done so well. :)
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The USS STRIDER. she was an early model that i done, Actually she was my first fully optimized ship, *all one mesh* and i tried and tried and tried to texture her but i just couldn't do TMP so i asked Baz for some help and he obliged, here we have her, finished just getting HP'D By Tiq - shes small armed and can pack a punch but she has weak hull and shields to compensate for having such good firepower - shes Mid tmp era (even though legacy has her as an ENT ship *tut tut tut*
i know some of you wont like the reg, but thats her normal reg so i have decided to keep it
can i have 5 volentees to beta her when i get her back please
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/userfolders/baz1701/screenshots/strider%206.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/userfolders/baz1701/screenshots/strider%207.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/userfolders/baz1701/screenshots/strider%208.jpg)
now just somthing i feel i have to do/say
Baz :bow: Thank you for all your help and consitations though all of my work, with out you i'd never have anything ready for release - thank you :yay:
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probably the only new TMP grade we're gonna see for a while. wonder if the Klingons are gonna start going oh BLEEP at a scout that can hand them their own Quch on a latinum platter?
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My pleasure mate. Anyone work out what the numbers in the reg mean. They are not random and is a tribute to a grand lady.
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It wouldn't have something to do with the Queen would it?
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Getting warm ;)
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the date when she got on the throne?
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We have a winner. :yay:
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now that was fast. Were you waiting all the time? ;)
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Nice work. I like it, especially the subtle hull textures.
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Whatever happened to the TOS excelsior? I got a version in mind I might have a crack at but I thought i would see what the deal was here first.
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Whatever happened to the TOS excelsior? I got a version in mind I might have a crack at but I thought i would see what the deal was here first.
Still a WIP, but nothing stopping you taking a whack at it :)
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Sweet, always interesting to compare after too! look forward to seeing it developed at any rate.
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just to let u guys know im about to become homeless and am currently looking for a new place to live. i have very limited internet but if i get the place i looked at today i should only be off line for about a week
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Catch you on the flip side mate.
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Good luck Phoenix!
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Good luck.
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Good luck man.
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ok im back, sorted and moved in, gimme a couple of days to get my head straight and i'll release the strider with my official come back :D
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Glad to hear you got sorted :)
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indeed
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most definatley :thumbsup:
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ok update time - tomorrow i should release the Strider as long as all goes well - the connie is 80% finished need to map the rim and add spec's and weathering to all textures, but she's looking so much better than my last one :D - :yay: - so keep your eyes open :D
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ok update time - tomorrow i should release the Strider as long as all goes well - the connie is 80% finished need to map the rim and add spec's and weathering to all textures, but she's looking so much better than my last one :D - :yay: - so keep your eyes open :D
Do you still want those action shots?
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Do you still want those action shots?
yes pls
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Ok, I'll mail them to you tonite, so hold your horsies a bit. :kiss: :funny
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ok just to keep u in the loop wanna release the strider asap sinces shes ready but last time i released a ship for bc the date was "19-07-2004" - Yer i know right lol, so can some one tell me HOW i go about releasing it?? lol
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Great work! :)
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there, on Main Page, on the left, is "Submit Files' click on that and start filling the fields, but remember to use you correct "BCfiles" name [look at your Old file as an example of the name]
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Could you possibly get on MSN or something as I don't seem to have your email..?
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there, on Main Page, on the left, is "Submit Files' click on that and start filling the fields, but remember to use you correct "BCfiles" name [look at your Old file as an example of the name]
that needs changing it says Phoenix={FeTT}= but i want phoenix Bondi like i do on legacy and halflife 2 files so its all 1 things since they're all niterconnected
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screw it im slow :evil:
Strider released
http://bc-central.net/forums/index.php/topic,9168.msg188688.html#msg188688 (http://bc-central.net/forums/index.php/topic,9168.msg188688.html#msg188688)
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Ok my new connie model is finished and main textures are done, I'm now working on the specs, and then will be asking for help/opinions on weathering and rusting - i will update pictures either tonight or tomorrow
What this really means is i lost my internet for a day and couldn't play on STO so i was bored and had to do something
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Tut Tut man. BC should always come first!!!
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Finally got her finished :yay: :dance :yay: all thats left now are my specs which are 70% done anyway :D heres a quick look for you
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/origins/connie1.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/origins/connie2.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/origins/connie3.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/origins/connie4.jpg)
i tired using my skylight setup but she went up like a glow stick, i made sure alpha's where OFF but im not sure if that coz im looking at her in max as a PSD *on the fly editing with photoshop if any one wants to know why i use psd* but with TGA it dosn't do this, am i right in just thinking its because of PSD???
wont be long now guys :D at long last
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(http://coachdawnwrites.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/excellent.jpg)
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The registry font on the dorsal side seems a bit too bold, at the moment. I'd check your references again and compare.
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The registry font on the dorsal side seems a bit too bold, at the moment. I'd check your references again and compare.
Exactly what I was thinking. Beyond that? Wow.
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Well done dude!
Cookie incoming.
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She looks great Phoenix. I would HIGHLY suggest getting with moed about her hardpoint. His update to Wiley's Connie is still the ship I use the most in game.
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Did you turn on light tracer when you rendered it out with skylight
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Did you turn on light tracer when you rendered it out with skylight
lol :idk: I dunno know :angel
Exactly what I was thinking. Beyond that? Wow.
Dont worry about that, the font is actually wrong the posistion is wrong i slapped it on there late last night JUST to see effects of weathering around the font as well or not - was just experimenting with a few thing :D
also, i went to do some screenshots last night for the first time using edit mode and i went into my origins area and all my connies where the same and bugged - has anyone still got my connie ON ITS OWN that i sent them so i can just do some screen's with that untill i finish my new one :D
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not to mention the name is mis-sized, there. I thought something looked a little funny, but if it was just a quicke...
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not to mention the name is mis-sized, there. I thought something looked a little funny, but if it was just a quicke...
yes it was just slapped on so please all stop picking on the damn name its not the final reg its a slap on for quick look and nothing nore - should have the specs done tonight or tomorrow and then i'll see about getting her sent off for finalization :D
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Once the Connie is done do you reckon it will be easier to do the other ships?
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Once the Connie is done do you reckon it will be easier to do the other ships?
apart from the Miranda saucer attachment most deffently - but so i don't bite off more than i can chew, I'm finishing off this one first, then.. move onto the new fed ship from my pack - i'll realise them seperatly and then altogether in one big pack at the end
only thing to question for me, is what ship to tackle next :D
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The Kelvin, that would be awesome. :D
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The Kelvin, that would be awesome. :D
so be it :D
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well i've been after showing this off all evening from say 10pm gmt and its now 3:46am gmt and am finally going to get around to it - the Connie is finished, just got to put the reg's into the right place and right font and shes done - there will be some touch ups to do with the spec's but for now i am happy with her so time for some beauty shots
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/origins/fin1.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/origins/fin2.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/origins/fin3.jpg)
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:thumbsup:
I would like to test this ship out.
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ok :dance i don't believe it - shes now put together to be 1 BIG item lol and she is sitting at 12,132 polys i mean that went down from 62k when i finished her, my last one was about 42k so I'm having an OMG moment, and no one can stop me!!!
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:thumbsup:
I would like to test this ship out.
sure thing, just need to go crawling to baz to animate the textures for me again and stick her in game, and find some one to hard point her and she's then ready for release (before any one ask's NO i've still not fixed the reg's, going to do it after some sleep. I've been up for 31 hours straight now and I know I'll need to concentrate on them :D)
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i would like to take her for an spin too!
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She looks amazing
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One of those images reminded me of the Enterprise's Mirror episodes where Connie was pwning everyone, dashing into ambushed NX-class vessels help.. :evil:
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One of those images reminded me of the Enterprise's Mirror episodes where Connie was pwning everyone, dashing into ambushed NX-class vessels help.. :evil:
Amazing, phoenix, amazing.
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She is beautiful nix, Just a thought i know it's not BC but hows UUM Origins coming along been awhile
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Muldrf has my new connie and is porting it as we speak
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She looks brilliant. Are the bussards animated?
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A real nice piece of work, good job. :thumbsup:
,, and a cookie.
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She looks brilliant. Are the bussards animated?
oh yes of course :D
A real nice piece of work, good job. :thumbsup:
,, and a cookie.
well guys, what can i say but thank you ...Or i could just say nothing at all and post these
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/origins/kelvin1.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/origins/kelvin2.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/origins/kelvin3.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/origins/kelvin4.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/origins/kelvin5.jpg)
and with that, i would like to point out - The bitch is back!! :evil: lol :angel
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Eeep. Uhh Phoenix, you might need to recheck that name. :angel
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Muldrf has my new connie and is porting it as we speak
Sounds great, she certainly looks a beauty i guess she'll play like a beauty aswell in both games
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Eeep. Uhh Phoenix, you might need to recheck that name. :angel
that was quick! - i did it on perpose, i actually had a wager going on with my fiancee that, No one would notice :( damn u let me down - Guess who's doing the dish's now :( :facepalm:
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sexy girl she is. :dance :bow: :thumbsup:
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that was quick! - i did it on perpose, i actually had a wager going on with my fiancee that, No one would notice :( damn u let me down - Guess who's doing the dish's now :( :facepalm:
Oops :angel
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Muldrf has my new connie and is porting it as we speak
Guess that is me bowing out of this one then.
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Guess that is me bowing out of this one then.
BAZ NO!!!! - its for UUM in star trek legacy - ur still my bc man, pls dont run away :( lol
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One unified mesh?
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One unified mesh?
not unified as such, but yes one mesh!
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Well as long she's not so heavy on the polies as the last one its a definate improvement! Keep up the good work!
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Well as long she's not so heavy on the polies as the last one its a definate improvement! Keep up the good work!
well last one was 40k this one is 10k so what you think?? :D
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Looking great, I'm looking forward to getting my hands on her too. Just need blank textures and I'll be good to go.
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well last one was 40k this one is 10k so what you think?? :D
I call it a win. :dance
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Looking great, I'm looking forward to getting my hands on her too. Just need blank textures and I'll be good to go.
what you need travis??
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She looks great! Love the bridge area! Well done Mr P!
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well don't think i'm going to do any more kitbash's of my mesh's untill Baz say's the first one was fine :P - but i'll start on my other ship tonight
heres the apollo (my take on it)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/origins/apollo1.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/origins/apollo2.jpg)
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I love the semi-secondary-hull that the JJ Kelvin and now these two have. I think the Akula class would look good with one as well.
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I love the semi-secondary-hull that the JJ Kelvin and now these two have. I think the Akula class would look good with one as well.
The akula class was just a TMP apollo - BUT i could do it with a torpedo pod on Both parts by the nacelle and be a veriant - that would be interesting, what do you think?? or other ideas maybe? just throw them my way
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If you do an Akula varient I would stick a phase 2 style torpedo pod on the bottom pylon but not on the top. Keep the small hull extrusion though, its quite nice.
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A point to be brought up is that the TOS Connie had no visible torpedo launchers, so arguably no TOS ship should have them. On the other hand, it definitely would make the ship look more aggressive. It's your call. I do agree with Mr. Ewoks though, if you did go that route, a Phase 2 style launcher would probably be best.
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I like to think that because of the small size of the Akula that an internal launcher wouldn't be viable because of size limitations. So an external launcher make more sense. :)
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I like to think that because of the small size of the Akula that an internal launcher wouldn't be viable because of size limitations. So an external launcher make more sense. :)
Agreed. Good call.
BTW, excellent work Phoenix, everything's looking real clean.
Cookie.
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It?s a well executed work sir! I can?t see any segmentation. Can surelly pass as a higher polly mesh. :thumbsup:
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may i be the first to introduce you to the U.S.S. Marco Polo
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/origins/marcopolo1.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/origins/marcopolo2.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/origins/marcopolo3.jpg)
I'll trying to think of a design for the pod at this moment in time, as soon as im done with that i'll finish her off and texture her :D - enjoy
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Hello there beautiful. :P
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How about a 5 sided triangle shape? She is a beauty by the way!
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How about a 5 sided triangle shape? She is a beauty by the way!
a 5 sided 3 sided shape?? Expalin??
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Very nice! See you used your awsome enterprise to make her! :thumbsup:
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Looking good Phoenix!
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a 5 sided 3 sided shape?? Expalin??
I couldn't think of how else to say it lol Like a capital 'A' shape but it has a rectangular bottom, then the two sides converging to a curved point at the front
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I couldn't think of how else to say it lol Like a capital 'A' shape but it has a rectangular bottom, then the two sides converging to a curved point at the front
bash me up a pic, im always open to ideas, but was thinking of using the same style i had on the swac's class
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you mean kinda like the nebula pod?
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I dunno how but this is an idea, it would be obviously smoother on top the lines are just to show how the extrusion would work. I tried to make it look like a neb pod but a bit more rudimentry. Maybe also make it a bit more deeper in height aswell.
(http://i1097.photobucket.com/albums/g354/KillaBC/pod.jpg)
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Well, she's finished and I'm happy with her
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/origins/mp1.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/origins/mp2.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/origins/mp3.jpg)
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:drool: Another beauty that I can't wait to get my hands on.
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ahh very nice she's a beaut! keep up good work nix!
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yum... Nix you are a modeling god! :bow:
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I never thought TOS could look so sexy. You're turning me into a TOSser, that you are. :P
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I never thought TOS could look so sexy. You're turning me into a TOSser, that you are. :P
:funny :funny :funny :funny :funny :funny :funny :funny
woke my fiancee up laughing coz of that comment :D
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Love what you did with the sensor pod.
Excellent work dude!
Cookie.
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Love what you did with the sensor pod.
Excellent work dude!
Cookie.
Have to agree with that man, really sets the look of it off. Awesome detail. :thumbsup:
,,and a cookie from me too.
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Mr P I love the pod, a lot better than I had in mind! :D
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Take it how u want to,*with no offense ment pls* but I'd actually like to take the time to say thank you. Thank you to each and every one of you. I mean, not to sound rude but I didn't start off making these ships for you guys, I made them for me, But i showed you them for feed back on how to improve them, and got a nice response so i looked into actually releasing them, obvisouly needless to say i will release them to the public too, since with out all your help and feedback they probably wouldn't look like they do. I would never expect the response I get from some of you, it really makes me happy and can actually brighten my day. Because at this moment I'm stuck indoors with a frozen sholder that's only getting worse and i'm on so much medication its just not funny, really depressing in all honesty, i miss my bike and my walk's. More so with the weather Englands been having as of late.
But as i actually look at some of my renders, "Good example being the U.S.S. Marco Polo" i find it hard to believe i actually made her. if you excuse my typing this as kinda wanna get off my chest (tablets make me damn emo :cry:) i Started off In Klingon Academy actually knowing what i was doing in Lightwave *and much better than i am now* and was a very active member of their community working with the NX-Modders team, with my *modding* Life long friend Jakeo_26 (who i still speak to and play STO with) and between him and exarkhun got me quite high up, i build ds9 for ka
(http://www.klingonacademy.com/images/site/modpics/old/ds1.jpg)
(http://www.klingonacademy.com/images/site/modpics/old/ds2.jpg)
also i built the deathstar with a real working interia and outta my last pics i could find a runabout
(http://www.klingonacademy.com/images/site/modpics/nx/d1.jpg)
and a quite a few more, but during that time my girl friend passed away carrying my twins *not after simpothy just telling my story* and as i was trying to tour with my band still i moved into the dark regions of sexy drugs booze and heavy metal and it changed me as a person *i was a bit of a c*nt* but as a result i lost a lot of my memory dr's said it would come back in time and it was all me just hiding my past - but meh, it did't and still has't but when bridge commander came out, i attempted to start modeling again - this time with 3d studio max, and lo and behold I couldn't bloody do it. Nothing this entire program was 100% different from what i was use too, and for some reason my brain wasn't allowing me to do what i knew i could.. so i moved onto learning max though Kitbashing, here is a few of my early attempts
the first picture is of this ship in startrek Klingon academy, as i had loved this kitbash since i was learning lightwave
(http://www.klingonacademy.com/images/site/modpics/kf/wa1.jpg)
and this is from Bc
(http://screenshots.filesnetwork.com/8/files2/25002_5.jpg)
http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/FAS_Invincible;25002 (http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/FAS_Invincible;25002)
This ship was made up from a Sov, Akira, Excel Refit & Voyager, it didn't look great but i enjoyed it and wanted to do more
Next ship (just a retexture) was my personal ship *thats been with me EVERYWHERE i've been* was the FAS_Kadet *Fallen Angel Squadron*
http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/FAS_Kadet;28348 (http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/FAS_Kadet;28348)
In her time she's seen 5 overhawls ranging from ka all the way to sto here's a few pictures
This is her FIRST look from Klingon Academy
(http://www.klingonacademy.com/images/site/modpics/nx/o1.jpg)
(http://www.klingonacademy.com/images/site/modpics/nx/o2.jpg)
Phase 2 Was her FIRST look in Bridge commander
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/old/kadetstage1.jpg)
Phase 3 her final look in Bridge commander
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/old/kadetstage2.jpg)
Phase 4 was her Only look she in Legacy (which was my favorit)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/old/kadetstage3.jpg)
and finally Phase 5 Was from Star Trek Online
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/old/kadetstage4.jpg)
a few other kitbash's i tried before i dissapeared
Hypersonic BOP - bad name i know
http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/Hypersonic_Bird_of_Prey_MKII;26330 (http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/Hypersonic_Bird_of_Prey_MKII;26330)
(http://screenshots.filesnetwork.com/8/files2/26330_1.jpg)
Sith Kessok - i know i know another bad name lol
http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/Sith_Kessok;24961 (http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/Sith_Kessok;24961)
(http://screenshots.filesnetwork.com/8/files2/24961_1.jpg)
and then i went, and then in 2006 stright after the release of Star Trek Legacy i was picked up by Chris Jones Gaming as they had seen on the Bethesda Forums i was the first person to PORT the dominion from BC over to legacy, and so they asked me to join their ranks. i went from porting the dominion and cardassians for the Ultimate dominion pack to retexturing fed ships for the Terran Empire
here's a couple of the ships i did
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/old/gladiator.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/old/TEsov.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/old/TEakira.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/old/TEdefiant.jpg)
then after that i decided once again to try building a ship from scratch, with a little help from people like adonis and Chief brex and marky D explaining a few things i managed to do this (its bad i know its my first new model in like 6 or 7 years lol)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/old/oldares/1.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/old/oldares/2.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/old/oldares/3.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/old/oldares/4.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/old/oldares/5.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/old/oldares/6.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/old/oldares/7.jpg)
as you can see it's piss poor, so then i went onto try a cannon ship a TOS romulan BOP which i couldn't seem to work out AT ALL But then Chief Brex explained it a little bit more and away i went, working on A not too bad BOP for legacy
http://legacy.filefront.com/file/Romulan_Bird_Of_Prey;93753 (http://legacy.filefront.com/file/Romulan_Bird_Of_Prey;93753)
(http://screenshots.filesnetwork.com/105/files2/93753_1.jpg)
(http://screenshots.filesnetwork.com/105/files2/93753_2.jpg)
then With the assistance of Marky D explaining a few more thing's i decided to attempt to make an Oberth Class (at this time i was introduced to Adonis as well) which actaully won me the Best new modder award and best Tmp design. here are the ships from my Oberth ship pack
The Gardian Refit
(http://screenshots.filesnetwork.com/105/files2/95790_1.jpg)
Normal Oberth
(http://screenshots.filesnetwork.com/105/files2/95790_4.jpg)
Medical Pod Oberth
(http://screenshots.filesnetwork.com/105/files2/95790_5.jpg)
and then i went onto starting to build Origins (Trust me the first run of it was AWFUL) heres a then and now for you
2009
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/old/family.jpg)
2012
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/old/family2.jpg)
as you all know Origins was ment to be a BIG pack to show my return to bc but that didn't happen, but thanks to Baz1701 I got my first release in 8 years, the U.S.S. Strider
http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/USS_Strider;120787 (http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/USS_Strider;120787)
(http://screenshots.filesnetwork.com/8/files2/120787_1.jpg)
as you know my first BIG hawl of ships didn't work out due to being originally made for Legacy they didn't like convirting back to bc so i though with my new skill's i would redo them, the connie would take the longest and then i can knock them out pritty quickly as you know i do .... the rest they say, is history lol
so with the end of my EMO rant i just want to say thank you to all of you, for being, friends, Family and mentors i came from basically nothing and being unknown to having a few of you guys watching my work constinantly helping praising and giving advice where you feel was needed, with out Any of you i'd never be where i am now below are just a few extra thanks, if i forget some one Pls don't take it personally
Chris Jones - if it wasn't for you old friend, i Don't know where i would be right now
Jakeo_26 - for getting me into modeling in the very first place
Adonis, Marky D & Chief Brex, for Actually teaching me 3d studio Max
Laserdisc, for all your helpful tip's with Photoshop
Baz1701 & Wiley Coyote - for all your help conditioning me with max and improving me on what i know now
Baz1701 - for putting up with my crap and getting my ship's ingame, and texturing my Strider class. Thank you so much fella
Tiqhud - For Hp'ing all my work
Nebula - for bouncing around idea's with me when i very first got into bc - and still a valued friend
JC2006 - for writing up all my NON cannon information about my ships
Mindwipe - being a bloody good mate when and where i need you
Killallewoks - for helping me learn how to do good pic's in bc ;)
Markeno AKA travis AKA chris jones gaming Muldrf - thanks for putting my new ships into legacy uum, where they where always intended to be
ALL my Beta Testers - with out you guys i'd of released some crap lol thanks for helping me fix my problems and getting my ships upto par
serisouly guy's i know some of you won't read this, but to all those who did and have helped me over the years, Thank you so much ;)
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After looking at your new work over the past couple of months, it's amazing to see how far you have come since the good old days! Well done bro, you have far exceeded anything I was ever capable of. Those old KA screenshots bring back many memories! And all this new work is making me want to play BC.
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By helping others we keep this community alive.
As you said you come from nothing, well all of us have similar stories in how we began modeling. The best way to thank those that helped you is to pay it forward to any new people on the scene, and I have already seen you do that.
I have worked with a few newbie's on their ships but what makes you stand out is your not just here to get a ship released. You would rather scrap a mod and restart it to get it the best it can be rather than release as is. Your skills in both modeling and texturing have surpassed many here already and there is not much left for you to learn.
Once origins is done I would love to see you try your hand at complex ship with kick ass aztecing. It is intimating at first but doing your research and playing with things you can achieve anything in BC that others still here or long gone have done before.
Onwards and upwards my friend, there is no limit in which to hold yourself back. :thumbsup:
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Damn Phoenix, well not much to say here but Origins is possibly some of the best TOS ships to date. I can kinda see where your name comes from now, maybe you could have a bash at doing TMP refits? As Baz said you show excellant talent and TMP ships have kick ass aztecing.
Don't worry about the weather too, at least today is somewhat warm and with blue skies.
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What an evolution!
Thank you Phoenix for sticking at it and producing some great work :)
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It was a long way Phoenix!
Your TOS ships looks excelent, much better than some higher polly meshes that I ever seen. Keep doing the great work! :)
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what, no nod for the Strider help? :P ah, don't care, it was just nice to have a TMP that wasn't a sluggish joke (thanks to early interpretations based on the minimal movements in the movies)
and a couple of those can be rescued.
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Thank you for sharing your story Phoenix. It was heart wrenching and glorious at the same time. I know you're not seeking it, but I have to say that there are no words to properly express my condolences to the loss and heartache you've experienced. You're a part of this family, and our hearts are with you. If there's one thing I know, is that I know that your girlfriend and twins are in a much, much better place... and one day, you'll be with them again. :angel
As far as your skills are concerned, dude, your improvement is incredible. You have some magnificent work.
Thanks for being a part of this community. And chin up!!!
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. You're a part of this family, and our hearts are with you. If there's one thing I know, is that I know that your girlfriend and twins are in a much, much better place... and one day, you'll be with them again.
Thanks for being a part of this community. And chin up!!!
Thanks Moed, but when i said i didn't want simpothy i did mean it , lol at present im engaged to the most beautiful woman i've ever met, she's actaully my School girl friend and my first love so i kinda feel im in the right place now, as to what happens when i die, i'll leave that up to the powers that be, the idea of me putting that was to show my growth nothing more, the only thing putting me down is my health, other wise i've never been happier, but thanks for the aknolage, i know many american are christain and have their own set of beliefs but i'm actaully fully praticing wiccan and am very happy with my choice - but alas, lets not get into this here or i could start Forum ww3 lol. but thanks guys, im here for a long time to come - if my post offended any one i appoligies just trying to say thank you in my own way
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Oh, the first love. Phoenix you've made me go all weapy :) I wish you both all the happiness and luck for your many years to come
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Thanks Moed, but when i said i didn't want simpothy i did mean it , lol at present im engaged to the most beautiful woman i've ever met, she's actaully my School girl friend and my first love so i kinda feel im in the right place now, as to what happens when i die, i'll leave that up to the powers that be, the idea of me putting that was to show my growth nothing more, the only thing putting me down is my health, other wise i've never been happier, but thanks for the aknolage, i know many american are christain and have their own set of beliefs but i'm actaully fully praticing wiccan and am very happy with my choice - but alas, lets not get into this here or i could start Forum ww3 lol. but thanks guys, im here for a long time to come - if my post offended any one i appoligies just trying to say thank you in my own way
I can't speak for everyone but I feel you've not offended anyone Phoenix. And your sentiment is a good thing. And you're right, it was more of an acknowledgment on my part instead of sympathy. Also, a sprinkle of empathy I would say. I too have lost some people that were very close to me so... I just wanted to be supportive :)
May you and your sweetheart be the happiest for all your days and hope your health gets better and better!
Now, how about finishing those beautiful models of yours so we can blow up some Romulan scum :funny
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yer see - thats the point, not many TOS baddies ass's out there too kick - think that's my next thing
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Finish these first, though. It's never good when you have too many irons in the fire.. :P
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The Marco Polo's sister ship the Swacs class is finished
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/origins/sisters1.jpg)
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Defiantly a vast improvement on the version on origins I worked on for you. Be cool if you took my refit connie and give us a tmp swacs as well.
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Defiantly a vast improvement on the version on origins I worked on for you. Be cool if you took my refit connie and give us a tmp swacs as well.
stick the textures and the max file into your ftp and i'll do it
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Once again astonishing modelling there phoenix, I just hope the game engines give the models the credit they deserve.
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Some around will, go have a look in the screenshots thread :D
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ok so i really wanted to show this off as a tos ship, now actually so far i'm quite happy with it, Except the torpedo launcher and the way the nacelles connect to the ship, so any and i mean any idea's and feedback would be greatly apricciated, here is the work so far, but please don't go cannon mad and say, this isnt right thats not right etc, this is ment to be an IDEA of not a replica, so thats how i intend to use any feedback i get :D
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/origins/constellation1.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/origins/constellation2.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/origins/constellation3.jpg)
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Looks awesome. Although, I'd go with a more TOS-ish saucer, and I would turn the nacelles 9 degrees so that the warp grilles all face inward, like they do on the TMP-style.
Also, I'd probably make the Torpedo launchers look a little more bulky. They look too elegant. But, that's just my preference.
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I think the saucer is fine, If you were to make changes to it, i would think of how the TOS reliant would work, since the constellation is essentially a kit bash of two Miranda class models.
The torpedo bay i think looks way too big. I would suggest a more "tos" like pod, rather than the bulky TMP looking ones. and both dont have to be torpedo bays, maybe make the bottom one a sensor pod?
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I think with the TOS Constellation it should be a blend of TOS and TMP styles as I see her being built toward the end of TOS.
I love her so far. But here is an idea, what about her impulse engines on the rear of saucer section? Then use that area where the impulse engines are now as shuttle bay and perhaps get rid of the two port and starboard midships ones?
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This is roughly how I would do it.
Main thing to do is rotate the nacelles. You may also want to look at altering them as the TMP ships nacelles are not exactly like the connie. The ends are different.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7211/7165657209_2189fb4b6f_h_d.jpg)
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:bow:
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Oh dear forgot about Lionus. Can someone get him a bucket for his drool LOL
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I suggest to connect the pylons at the sides of the weapons pod, not over it. ;)
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brings the bucket, checking for the lolrus, first*
why was I thinking this was done by someone already? must be GMunoz's reputation.
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The Constellation Class is one of my most favourite designs, unfortunatly whenever i go to play any model it feels really sluggish; And when i fire my weapons e.t.c as well as doing little damage to the enemy and sounds awful:hithead:
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The Constellation Class is one of my most favourite designs, unfortunatly whenever i go to play any model it feels really sluggish; And when i fire my weapons e.t.c as well as doing little damage to the enemy and sounds awful:hithead:
go download baz1701's one, its epic, in all scale of the word!
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if you mean the SFRD one, Phoe...don't. we need to fix the hardpoint. look for the JJ or JJrefit ones instead.
better yet, just wait on the Simo Hayha :evil: I've got a consty in the works inspired by Vladko's Last Hurrah
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Well as the Constellation was Later in the TMP era.. Don't be afraid to make her a late TOS ship. Less use of "round" and then the saucer with it's sharp edges would integrate a little more smoothly?
Another way might be something like Baz did on the JJ Constellation had a little more rounded outer edge on the saucer? Or atleast I "think" it was a bit softer edge, I might have spent many hours looking at her but that was a very long time ago and my memory is fuzzy.
Maybe if you go "more tos", make the weapon pods significantly smaller and single tube that doesn't show much. It seems Tos ships didn't have a lot of show as far as weapons, and TMP they showed off the weapon ports and firepower more.
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Cool beans. Too bad BC's engine is too antiquated to handle normal maps or is say she needs 'em. regardless this is nice work.
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ok guys, i'm not stopping any of my work at all, but i wanna build something NEWER - and maybe this might start my next project off, I wanna build an ambassador class but i know DJ has done an awesome one, IF i was to make it to the best of my abilities would you download it?? i wanna do this as a test of my modeling skill, and also to play with aztec's etc, let me know please guys - yes if i pull it off, expect some TLE *The Lost Era* ships like with my TOS
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If my Memory serves DJ did not make his canon. Also there are two variants of the Ambassidor so you can either build the older 1701-C version or the updated model seen later in TNG.
The Ambassidor would be a good TNG ship to cut your teeth on so I would say go for it. You will defiantly get downloads with a new "canon" version of this ship.
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I would download :D
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If my Memory serves DJ did not make his canon. Also there are two variants of the Ambassidor so you can either build the older 1701-C version or the updated model seen later in TNG.
The Ambassidor would be a good TNG ship to cut your teeth on so I would say go for it. You will defiantly get downloads with a new "canon" version of this ship.
i do not know the difference, can you post some reference's for me, i think im doing to try and build it :D - i'll go with the Ent-C coz then with your Ent-B we can maybe look at some lost era ships
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There are some decent shots over at EAS. The Zhukov Variant is what, I believe, Baz is referring too.
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Here are some comparrisons between the two variants though the same studio model.
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/ambassador.htm
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didn't Tiq have a redone Olympic in the pipeline at one point?
I know of at least two guys that I asked permission from to do their designs once we get the hang.
there's also a couple concepts for the refit hanging around at Cygnus. I know one of them might make a good Enterprise H
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ok guys, i'm not stopping any of my work at all, but i wanna build something NEWER - and maybe this might start my next project off, I wanna build an ambassador class but i know DJ has done an awesome one, IF i was to make it to the best of my abilities would you download it?? i wanna do this as a test of my modeling skill, and also to play with aztec's etc, let me know please guys - yes if i pull it off, expect some TLE *The Lost Era* ships like with my TOS
TLE ships... TLE SHIPS!! YES! :bow:
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TLE ships... TLE SHIPS!! YES! :bow:
I've always wanted to kill, so just keep them eye's open
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I would absolutely download it!
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yes if i pull it off, expect some TLE *The Lost Era* ships like with my TOS
now youre talking!! :dance
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oh no what have i started lol :funny
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What are lost era designs?
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The Lost Era is the time between the last TMP movie and the beginning of TNG. This includes basically the run of the Enterprise B and C, from around 2290 to 2360.
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in which a movie (instead of a reboot) or new television series should be set, since that area is largely untouched and has many possibilities...
but thats a convo for a different thread in a different forum lol :P
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I'd say go for it! There are also a few nice TLE designs on Ex Astris you could consider too. :D
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ok guys, watching yesterdays enterprise again, the impulse is BLUE, to keep it inline with all the rest of the TMP/TNG ships i wanna make it red, Any complaints???
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I'd point you to this.
Here are some comparrisons between the two variants though the same studio model.
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/ambassador.htm
I would suggest you merge the two main variants. Yamaguchi neck, impulse engine, Ent-C for most everything else.
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Oh i'm well awear of the difference's am going to make them both, its just the IMPULSE for the ent C that i am interested in at the moment, Its blue, ONLY fed ship except TOS connie that was blue, and even that in the hd-remake where red. so Should the NORMAL no different ent C have red impulse is basically all im asking
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Well yeah, what I'm saying is red impulse engine... and move the neck too. I think it looks stupid sticking out.
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Well, the scene is set and im about ready to begin to build, took me alot longer to do, due to being ill :( - one thing i did not know was that the SAUCER to the Ambassador Class is not perfectly round, the REAL dimentions are 213.1 x 319.3 so a bit shocked :( oh well Night guys
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If u look at TNG the Zhukov (Yamaguchi) variant has a red impulse glow
The Enterprise-C has the blue impulse glow
I hope you do both models
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He is doing both versions.
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ok guys last time for those who dont wanna read, IM DOING BOTH MODELS, but since the ENT-C is the only BLUE IMPULSE ship there, Shall i do the Impulse FOR THE ENT-C Red still or Blue which is cannon, i think red as it keep's inline with others but blue is cannon, but just dont sit right with me
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Well if your building both version then I say keep it canon. Blue for the Ambas MK1 (ent-c) and red for the Mk2 (yamamoto).
Anyone wanting red on the MK1 can cut and paste the engine texture from the MK2 anyway.
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im gonna edit the thread poll question so it is clear...
i think red as it keep's inline with others but blue is cannon, but just dont sit right with me
i agree, i voted red...
i dont care much for fed ships impulse engine to be a different color than red... even the Prometheus's white impulse engines kinda bother me a little bit lol
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Promie's engines really bother me. I'm kinda sad that blue is winning.
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yeah but it wouldnt be too difficult to change the blue impulse to red for one's own personal install, if blue wins, right?
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I'll put both textures in anyway
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Well, pho-, remember, it is YOUR model [so whatever you decide, will be great]
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I love blue so my answer is obvious :P
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the poll is split... interesting...
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Sorry, had to break the tie :)
I prefer canon.
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Well, what do you think, to be honest with the nacelle's that is my first and only try so im REALLY happy with how they turned out, BUT i am going to remake them they're over 2k each, and in all honesty where very tuff for me to build, the biggest problem is going to be the main hull, The pylon struts etc and the extra part that extrudes out is puzzeling me, also the curved deflector has me in a mix lol - but out of all of it my biggest problem is the schimatics im using are shit, the front and back view do not match up with any of the others so i don't know if my underside is extruded down too much or is it right? lol - but JUST to wet your whiskers here are 2 quick renders for you, If i can't find some better blueprints im going to import the old ambassador we have (lc's one) and take good renders of that at the correct posistions and use that for reference - any who, enough of the bitching, here we have her so far
Opinions welcome but im just trying new techniques, this is my First model for San Franciscos ship yards
(http://www.mw-studios.net/nix/sfsy/Nix/ambassador1.jpg)
(http://www.mw-studios.net/nix/sfsy/Nix/ambassador2.jpg)
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Looking good bro! Blue is probably the correct choice for canon sake. Either way, it looks sweet so far! Cannot wait to see progress on this puppy! The Ambassador has been one of my favourite designs for a long time!
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so are you going to be doing both Ambassador Class models and releasing both impulse color textures for the Ent-C?
hehe sorry, had to :P
*runs*
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so are you going to be doing both Ambassador Class models and releasing both impulse color textures for the Ent-C?
hehe sorry, had to :P
*runs*
Get here u little shit!! *give chase to Jimmy, see's his cat and stops." -Aww a kitty cat, here kitty kitty kitty lol
whats next, ask me how long it'll be lol as long as u guys like it so far
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I say it looks good, the nacelles are about right. I sthe saucer really that thick or is that just the prespective of the picture?
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Just put two textures for the C's engine in the final submission and label the red one ***_alternate_glow.tga. Won't add much extra.
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The tops of the nacelle coil sections should be flat, not rounded. Otherwise looking good.
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Phoenix I have an ortho on the Ent - C and some MFDs, one on the Big E and one on the Zhukov, if you think those might help you out.
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Indeed, it should be flatter.
(http://www.st-bilder.de/gallery/image.raw?type=orig&id=65435)
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Phoenix I have an ortho on the Ent - C and some MFDs, one on the Big E and one on the Zhukov, if you think those might help you out.
yes pls
Indeed, it should be flatter.
(http://www.st-bilder.de/gallery/image.raw?type=orig&id=65435)
crap thanks guys lol
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Can do...now if someone could refresh my memory on how to post pics on here I would appreciate it :help:
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you have to upload a pic externally from something like photobucket or sendspace and use the image tags [ img ] [ /img] (without the spaces) around the link of the pic...
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Thanks Jimmy. Appreciate it.
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Okay going to test this out...here is the MFD for the Zhukov:
(http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p511/DMWalsh79/abassador-1.png)
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And here are the rest, if you need the full sized versions I can pm them to you phoenix.
(http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p511/DMWalsh79/ambassadorclass.jpg)
(http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p511/DMWalsh79/ambassador_1.jpg)
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(http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p511/DMWalsh79/lcars24-sheet-8.jpg)
(http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p511/DMWalsh79/ambassador_2.jpg)
Sorry for the spam. Kind of the first time I've done this.
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And as these are all unofficial, I recommend being cautious and taking it slowly rather than just outright building your model straight off them.
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Right, Going to restart the Ambassador Class NOW - actually thinking of filming me doing it, Who would actually wanna see it??
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I'd be up for it. Be careful when installing the warp core, the matter/anti-matter mix can be a PITA. Good luck. :p
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Dont worry about that, Tuesday :funny
Edit = Well, thats the scene setup done and the saucer :D Tomorrow Bridge area and Nacelles :D
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Dont worry about that, Tuesday :funny
Edit = Well, thats the scene setup done and the saucer :D Tomorrow Bridge area and Nacelles :D
Tuesday? Don't get it. Nice work though. Always wanted to do this. Found this site though google. Cant wait to try it
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You need to watch Generations, then. :p
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Okay going to test this out...here is the MFD for the Zhukov:
(http://i1153.photobucket.com/albums/p511/DMWalsh79/abassador-1.png)
thats sweet - would be good use for a bridge retexture, methinks :)
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Definitely would have to secure permission from the original artist, and he has a whole ton of sexy MSD's.
http://lcarsgfx.wordpress.com/ (http://lcarsgfx.wordpress.com/)
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well, saucer, deck 2 and bridge are finished, Having trouble with the neck and mainhull, but i wont give up
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Right, Going to restart the Ambassador Class NOW - actually thinking of filming me doing it, Who would actually wanna see it??
Sure, as long as there's no nudity,, :evil: :D
Nice start on the Ambassador so far. :thumbsup:
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Ok found out the problem with the main hull, i THINK i know how to do it now, its just the blueprints im using are SHIT lol and the front and the sides don't match up so nothings lining up properly, adonis has sent me some high res PDF files with some nice pics in so im going to turn them into Jpg and see what i can d. hopefully i'll have some more pics for you later today
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I believe this E-C is the best all around: http://www.3dscifi.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21457&d=1311173792 (maybe, you?ll need to register to see). Kenneth did a beatifull mesh.
He also built the beautifull Openheimer variant: http://www.3dscifi.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=21449&d=1311091910. Just in case. ;)
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Registered, and don't have permission to view either attachment. Mind downloading the images, and reuploading it to an image host such as www.postimage.org ?
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Registered, and don't have permission to view either attachment. Mind downloading the images, and reuploading it to an image host such as www.postimage.org ?
Your account was activated? Looks strange that you can see the attachments.
About reupload the images, I wouldn?t mind. The problem is that all the free image hosts are blocked by my employer. :(
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Once logged in (and activated) it says:
"darkthunder, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:"
You could always email the images (darkthunder @ gmail . com) ;)
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signed up too, waiting for admin to accept me
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Once logged in (and activated) it says:
"darkthunder, you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:"
You could always email the images (darkthunder @ gmail . com) ;)
E-mail sent. ;)
I?ll talk to Chris (the admin there) about the permission issue. Surelly it will be easy to solve. The peoples there are very friendly. ;)
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signed up too, waiting for admin to accept me
Don?t forget to post your wips there too. ;)
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E-mail sent. ;)
I?ll talk to Chris (the admin there) about the permission issue. Surelly it will be easy to solve. The peoples there are very friendly. ;)
Thanks. The Trinity Class reminds me of a TMP-era "Nebula Class" (minus the pod). Course, it still has a space for a pod if required. Would love to see a BC version of that one at some point.
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Still no luck on the permission. i'll also post my wip there too :D
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I received the answer from Chris. He will verify. ;)
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Ok, so i started again, COMPLETELY - as said been recording it this time too :D - but keeping in mind the hull is really wrong and is only a place-holder what do you think of THIS
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/ambassador/ambassador1.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/ambassador/ambassador2.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/ambassador/ambassador3.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/ambassador/ambassador4.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/ambassador/ambassador5.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.net/phoenix/ambassador/ambassador6.jpg)
also after MUCH investigation - this ship dose NOT have aztec (LUCKY SAVE) - but i will do two lots of textures for it so one will have them - WHEN i suss them out
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damn that is one sexy Enterprise C :bow: :bow: :bow:
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Nacelles might be too flat. :P
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Looking very good!
I'm not completely sure on this but the deflector seems a bit wide. :P :P
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Looking very good!
I'm not completely sure on this but the deflector seems a bit wide.
Did say the whole hull is wrong. Ok, so i started again, COMPLETELY - as said been recording it this time too :D - but keeping in mind the hull is really wrong and is only a place-holder what do you think of This
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Looks like a brilliant start. ;)
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Nacelles might be too flat. :P
they're matching the blueprints fine, and look alright, could it be the view?? - also redone the hull today thank to mr night for the help :D
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Both deflector and nacelles look fine to me :P
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Excellent start!
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You have the top too flat. It should be somewhat more rounded.
(http://www.st-bilder.de/gallery/image.raw?type=img&id=65391)
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Yep, now I can tell the difference :P
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Starship, still not getting them two links you put up, any update on that???
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Ambassador Class
(http://s14.postimage.org/3k0889mul/Ambassador_ortho_2.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/3k0889mul/)
Trinity Class
(http://s7.postimage.org/fjsjw0n3r/Oppe_Ortho_2.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/fjsjw0n3r/)
These are the two pics I received via e-mail. Wouldn't mind seeing the Trinity Class ingame at some point. A TMP-era "Nebula Class".
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Ambassador Class
(http://s14.postimage.org/3k0889mul/Ambassador_ortho_2.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/3k0889mul/)
Trinity Class
(http://s7.postimage.org/fjsjw0n3r/Oppe_Ortho_2.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/fjsjw0n3r/)
These are the two pics I received via e-mail. Wouldn't mind seeing the Trinity Class ingame at some point. A TMP-era "Nebula Class".
OH trinity class - do want, consider that part of my TMP sfsy baz's kitbash's im doing :D
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Love that Ambassador Class! Would really like to know how you did the shuttlebay like that, because I'm trying to make a similar style on the Rigel model, and it's not quite working out rofl
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Ambassador Class
(http://s14.postimage.org/3k0889mul/Ambassador_ortho_2.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/3k0889mul/)
Trinity Class
(http://s7.postimage.org/fjsjw0n3r/Oppe_Ortho_2.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/fjsjw0n3r/)
These are the two pics I received via e-mail. Wouldn't mind seeing the Trinity Class ingame at some point. A TMP-era "Nebula Class".
Agreed, the Trinity Class looks very nice.
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Starship, still not getting them two links you put up, any update on that???
Chris said me he is still looking for what is wrong. ;)
Darkthunder and Phoenix: Did you registered with the same nick you have here, or with another?
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I use the same nickname as often as possible... so yes.
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Chris said me he is still looking for what is wrong. ;)
Darkthunder and Phoenix: Did you registered with the same nick you have here, or with another?
phoenix was taken so i've used Phoenix-Bondi
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I couldn?t resist:
My name is Bondi, Phoenix Bondi. :funny
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I couldn?t resist:
My name is Bondi, Phoenix Bondi. :funny
Slap! lol
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Darthunder an Phoenix: I got an answer from Eric (3dscifi forums) today. Here it goes:
My best guess, since I don't see any restrictions on those images, is that they should clear their cache in their web browsers and reload the page they are trying to view.
The only other thing I can think of is for them to try to access the images from a different location. If their ISP is blacklisted by one of my spam lists or something, then that might prevent them from seeing images, but I'm really reaching here. If this was really the case, they shouldn't even be able to log on at all.
Let me know if they have better luck after clearing their cache and reloading the page. What browser are they using? What OS are they using, do you know?
Eric is an admin (nick scifieric), and you can contact him if the trouble persists. ;)
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ok guys, sorry i've not posted in my own thread much, Here is a picture of the connie finished, Just got to put the rest of the textures together and then ship her out for beta - Who's in??
(http://www.mw-studios.net/nix/15.jpg)
and back to the ambassador, here are some pics of what i had done, but during the RE-INSTALL i lost the damn thing so have started again, BUT I'm very very close to being here again but this is what its going to look like so far
(http://www.mw-studios.net/nix/ambassador7.jpg)
(http://www.mw-studios.net/nix/ambassador8.jpg)
(http://www.mw-studios.net/nix/ambassador9.jpg)
got a lot of mesh errors adding these parts in, so hopefully i'll be able to fix it this time, anywho...Enjoy
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Connie beautiful as always, the Ambassador looking great. Like the look of Trinity, any chance for a legacy port of her
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Definatly coming along. Looks clean enough. :)
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Very nicely done on both classes Mr P
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Awesome stuff dude!
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Been working more on detail on this ship (since i started it 4 years ago!!) and decided you know what, im going to FINISH her, and just when i near completion, - i find the main hull is fracked and i DON'T remember how i made it :( BUT if i can get the hull back how i want it, this is another ship i'm doing for SFSY
(http://www.mw-studios.net/nix/tng1.jpg)
(http://www.mw-studios.net/nix/tng2.jpg)
(http://www.mw-studios.net/nix/tng3.jpg)
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Holy mackerel, Batman!
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Hopefully no longer one hit wonders after this refit
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Absolutely amazing Nix!
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Nacelles and deflector work really well on that Oberth.
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whats wrong with the hull?
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what are u talking about B5?
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and just when i near completion, - i find the main hull is fracked and i DON'T remember how i made it
Shame. :/ She looks really slick, I really quite like it!
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baz is helping me with the error's So its all more than possible now :D
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For the most part the main hull is very clean, just some edges need some TLC.
I got them fixed last night and waiting for Nix to check it out.
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That Oberth refit actually looks tough! Do want!
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Agreed.
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what are u talking about B5?
Booze perhaps :P
I can already tell you Phoenix there will be a couple of guys who will whine about Sov nacelles but that's just life... haters gonna hate :P
I love it, looking really promising ;)
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what are u talking about B5?
Neb, he asked what was wrong with the hull after nix said it was frakked.
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Neb, he asked what was wrong with the hull after nix said it was frakked.
^^ THIS
Glad you got it worked out Nix!!!
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^^ THIS
Glad you got it worked out Nix!!!
it wast me, it was that sexy man beast baz that fixed it for me :d ... Bones you go any suggestions for textures??
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just an update, after baz fixing the hull i looked at the main body and my god i was lazy it was 5h1t so i decided to make it again, so here is my new body with reactor
(http://www.mw-studios.net/nix/newbody.jpg)
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Might I suggest calling it a NEM Oberth? TNG might make people think it has Galaxy-like nacelles.
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Indeed. That would obviously fit it much better.
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Hey Phoenix I got your Connie BETA from Tiq and I fired this shot for your desktop*. I hope you like it. :D
Things can only get Better
(http://i1097.photobucket.com/albums/g354/KillaBC/ThingscanonlygetBetter.jpg)
*It's 1920-1080
**Background was made by me. :)
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like it - I BLOODY LOVE IT!!!!
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You got my vote!
Miri
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Did phoenix leave or is he still about just been no updates in a while?? Sorry if any rules i broke just looking fwd to his models
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ok so last couple of weeks, i've been ill and just playing star wars the old republic and star trek online... :dontcare: Bitch please :P I'm just so fly. But today i decided to crack on with some of my work and see where it lead me. So i pulled out the Ambassador...five min later i was playing "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" on my guitar.... :banghead: something tells me i didn't want to work on it. Then i pulled out my Oberth and looked at my nice shiny new hull i made for her :dance and the next thing i knew....
(http://www.mw-studios.net/nix/nem-oberth/front.jpg)
Yes Look i've given her TORPEDO BAYS - here have a closer look
(http://www.mw-studios.net/nix/nem-oberth/nem1.jpg)
(http://www.mw-studios.net/nix/nem-oberth/aft.jpg)
OOOHHH aft torpedo bay too :P - yes that is a secondery impulse on the aft of the saucer
(http://www.mw-studios.net/nix/nem-oberth/nem2.jpg)
(http://www.mw-studios.net/nix/nem-oberth/bottom.jpg)
a little look at the detail inside the oberth
(http://www.mw-studios.net/nix/nem-oberth/nem4.jpg)
was really happy with how the detail came out.
(http://www.mw-studios.net/nix/nem-oberth/top.jpg)
just another view to show off some bits
(http://www.mw-studios.net/nix/nem-oberth/nem3.jpg)
last one
(http://www.mw-studios.net/nix/nem-oberth/side.jpg)
Now all that is left is to finish the smoothing groups off and then, get my ass into gear and actually map it * :help: im scared lol*
all i have to say is thank's baz for helping me fix my main hull, she has turned out a dream now :D *is thinking maybe my guardian class type too - redone :D????*
(http://screenshots.filesnetwork.com/105/files2/95790_1.jpg)
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Epic!
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Yes to the NEM Guardian. You know I already told you this is epic. This is epic. :dontcare:
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she looks good, holds up to the original Oberth class, while moving into the 24th century.
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Oh my god..... Your alive lol. It looks beautiful phoenix, what colour hull you going for???
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she looks good, holds up to the original Oberth class, while moving into the 24th century.
agreed she's coming along nicely
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Wowser Yes! Looking Awesome! :yay: :dance
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Looking awesome Nix. Very proud of you for your level of detail. I only wish I could plan out physical detail on a mesh like that myself. This is amazing work. Cookie.
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Looking great dude!
Cookie :thumbsup:
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looking good phoenix looking good. :D
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Nice Nix :thumbsup:
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One question Mr P, are the four forward launchers micro torpedo launchers?
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Nope normal ones, shes bigger than a tridional oberth (but not too much bigger)
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Ah I see, she is an all new design but based on the Oberth's layout?
And your 100th cookie :) I love her
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Ah I see, she is an all new design but based on the Oberth's layout?
And your 100th cookie :) I love her
y thank you :thumbsup:
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y thank you :thumbsup:
Most welcome Mr P :yay:
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Good work mate. :thumbsup:
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Good work mate. :thumbsup:
OMG your back!! How are you fella??? going to continue on your defiant now??
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Hey mate,
only back for just over a week then I fly back, should be back for good in a few months.
Keep up the great work :thumbsup:
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I'm loving this design Nix. It looks absolutely awesome! Shorter nacelles maybe?
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she looks good, holds up to the original Oberth class, while moving into the 24th century.
My thoughts exactly, The detail is superb. Great job on the back of the engines, ties in well with the overall design.
Great job so far. :thumbsup:
A well deserved cookie from me. :thumbsup:
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That looks awesome!
Atleast twice the size of the original I guess? Torp launchers still seem too small plus I really wouldn't have that many. Two upfront and one out back is good enough for the ships roll.
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Ok, Im actually having problems Mapping the saucer due to wanting to do more with it than i did my TMP ones :( DAMN IT! - Options please people
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Well...It has begun :hithead:
(http://www.mw-studios.net/nix/nem-oberth/wip1.jpg)
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:salute3:
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Great details :yay:
I'm a question : why waste space with the living impulse engines in the saucer ?
You can not place it between the two warp nacelles ?
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj566/bdfd/newoberth.jpg)
Like in my joined example, you can even enlarge them for more power !
What do you think about this ?
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I dunno i like it as it is man. I mean wat happens if one fails lol. I mean loads actually have two. u can see the main impulse in other pics. No deff leave as is nix. Its awesome
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Great details :yay:
I'm a question : why waste space with the living impulse engines in the saucer ?
You can not place it between the two warp nacelles ?
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj566/bdfd/newoberth.jpg)
Like in my joined example, you can even enlarge them for more power !
What do you think about this ?
sorry Bdfd, actually there is Impulse under where you put them, and the ones on the saucer are in case of Saucer seperation, you know if needs must, also they are there as with man that have 2 or more impulse i mean akira has 4 galaxy has 3 sov has 2 etc heres the main one, its just under the hull that im texturing now, where you've put the impulse your covering the rear torpedo launchers
(http://www.mw-studios.net/nix/nem-oberth/aft.jpg)
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Why not for saucer ;)
but Oberth class is a very small vessel, and a separate saucer is not welcome !
The saucer contains two or three shuttlebay doors, if you put the impulse engines,
where is the space for the crew ?
Ok for rear torpdeos but you can put it on each side.
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj566/bdfd/newoberth2.jpg)
Remember that it's a science class starship.
You can engage a rate among us ?
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Why not for saucer ;)
but Oberth class is a very small vessel, and a separate saucer is not welcome !
The saucer contains two or three shuttlebay doors, if you put the impulse engines,
where is the space for the crew ?
Ok for rear torpdeos but you can put it on each side.
(http://i1268.photobucket.com/albums/jj566/bdfd/newoberth2.jpg)
Remember that it's a science class starship.
You can engage a rate among us ?
Well i dont know what u mean by can engage a rate among us, but you are the only one with a prob with the saucer issue, others have liked it, so repectfully i would like to keep my current design, how u had it makes No use for the underslung impulse and gives less room in the main section, this is Bigger than an oberth remember that
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Hi,
it's not a prob but just an inconsistency... :cry:
Of course you can keep your current design, you are the modeller :yay:
It was just a reminder of principle ;)
We'll see later the final result :bow:
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Hi,
it's not a prob but just an inconsistency... :cry:
Of course you can keep your current design, you are the modeller :yay:
It was just a reminder of principle ;)
We'll see later the final result :bow:
lol Princible...U could say the First ENTERPRISE *not nx-01* had one impulse area, And the D has 3 - so....Keeping in mind this is not the original deisgn and is just BASED off of it, BUT I could VERY easily change it later if im not happy
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The Ambassador Class also had 1 Impulse Port, on the neck. The number of impulse ports on a ship, apparently, is not conducive to the ship's size. The Sovereign Class, for example, is longer than the Galaxy Class, and roughly the same mass. But has half as many decks. And yet, it only has two impulse engines on the saucer. The Galaxy Class had three, but only 1 was active at all times. The two on the saucer were not in operation unless the saucer was separated from the rest of the ship.
However, the SIZE of the Impulse Ports could be important, as the Impulse Engines do provide the sublight thrust of the vessel. The smaller the port/the bigger the ship, the more sluggish the vessel would be at impulse speed.
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Not all impulse engines have visible exhaust ports. Notable examples are the saucer engines on the nebula ( so says Rick Sternbach), and the Steamrunner (FC model has no visible exhaust ports)
umm yeah both ships did.... I can point them out to you if you want.... -Nebula
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Does it really matter? its a nice ship and i really like it, i think the impulse on the MAIN hull looks wrong, Under one at the bottom looks awesome and i personally feel the impulse on the saucer gives it a nice look, honesty :doh: thought it was a torpedo launcher but then i saw that in the main hull. i must admit i think this is going to look nice when finished and is one ship i hated, but this new upgrade if you will, looks damn cool :dontcare: lol
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LOL @ Convo I see so many things I want to comment about but I won't....
Nice Job Phoenix.
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Unlocked by Phoenix's request.
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thanks darkthunder he was being a bit of a dick! i was actually on holiday visiting my dad so this is only pointed at the troll, but dude, i do this for fun nothing else, and as brex has said i have been trying to sort my fleet out on sto, so i will finish it in my own time - Which is going to be longer than hoped as its making me wonder on colours
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Well im finally back from manchester and helping my dad, now im going to get back into my work, but where its been a little while just to get me started, im going to knock out a few tos stuff first, hope to get some good stuff to you soon :D
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Well im finally back from manchester and helping my dad, now im going to get back into my work, but where its been a little while just to get me started, im going to knock out a few tos stuff first, hope to get some good stuff to you soon :D
lookin forward to it dude! welcome back :thumbsup:
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Sorry guys im not dead, having some health problems and well honestly I need to be inspired :(
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In that case:
*Cracks whip* Get to it!! :p
Nah, take care of yourself first mate, hope things pick up soon.
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Take care of yourself big lad! You come first
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Get better dude!
Hey, maybe working on some projects at whatever pace you want will get the juices flowing. :)
You have outstanding work mate!!
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ok well what to say, I will finish off all you have seen but as you guys know i've had some personal problems/issues to deal with and just haven't had the need to model, i just had nothing motervating me, I think that has changed, been up all night not able to sleep and i see a few models of a certain ship and they where all AVARAGE now i know im not all that or anything special, BUT if i can build this i intend to give it a couple off different features for veriants of Said ship, NOW if all goes well i'll give you all a guessing game in a few hours :D
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ok well what to say, I will finish off all you have seen but as you guys know i've had some personal problems/issues to deal with and just haven't had the need to model, i just had nothing motervating me, I think that has changed, been up all night not able to sleep and i see a few models of a certain ship and they where all AVARAGE now i know im not all that or anything special, BUT if i can build this i intend to give it a couple off different features for veriants of Said ship, NOW if all goes well i'll give you all a guessing game in a few hours :D
Why wait!?
I'm guessing a:
Miranda
Kelvin
Saladin
Ptolemy
Federation
SWACS Sub Class
Proxima
Imperial Stardestroyer
Hermes
Kearsage
Did I get at least one? :funny
Good to see you back man!
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My guess is whatever he builds.
I win. :P
Good to see you back though Mr P!
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Glad you are feeling better.
No doubt my sub-standard models have motivated you to set the BC TOS world to rights again.
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actually its not tos :D and no GMunoz, there is NOTHING wrong with your beauties
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Gonna guess Nebula.
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Or a new Miranda
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I'm guessing a Dominion Bug ship.
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I'm guessing a Dominion Bug ship.
DAMN how did u guess that was ONE of my ideas yes but just WOW, no it isnt this time decided to try a race i've NEVER done before, so here she is, Guess still welcome and Honest opinions PLS
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/1.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/2.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/3.jpg)
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Ah a vorcha!
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As long as it don't beat me and i end up giving like my ambassador. Which i will try and revisit it
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NICE! We've been needing a new Vor'cha for........ummmm...what was the last Vor'cha mod?
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That's why I wanted to do it, it has rarely been done, so I thought I would try TMP or TNG, Somthing different than my normal TOS, but honesty i really wanted to do something from the TNG ega. I chose Klingon because really I did not want another BLOODY federation Ship. I also wanted a ship where i could also make future variants of SAID ship, so I stuck with my second favorite Klingon ship, The Vor'Cha class, Now I'll be the first to Admit it, when I get stuck I normally end up giving up with models, mainly because I'm still new to this and Suck basically, I just can't seem to find what I want to do and how I want to do it. Apart from which some awesome people have shown me, I have basically Learned though RIPPING apart other peoples work, and trying to see which tool does what etc etc etc....lol BUT my question is
Do you want a Decent ship with most detail textured into it, or would you like a HIGHER poly model with some of the detail BUILT onto the mesh ??
please leave you comments below!! *coz u can't leave them above lol*
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I'd say a good deal of balance needs to be done here. Modeled detail for a lot, but I wouldn't model stuff like, say, the warp grilles.
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agreed.
if you look at my Hegh ToQ BOP, i modeled in the "wing" pattern paneling on the wings.
it looked great... at least to me it did :hithead:
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just a WIP, i will keep trying to get the MAIN hull right :D but meh, here u go
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/4.jpg)
Im just after basic shape at the moment
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Looks good!
At first I was going to say the Wings should be broader, but looking at my refs, you did it just right.
:thumbsup:
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Looking good dude!
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Right ok most of you guys are probably of some sort of christian belief or one that represents Xmas day But tomorrow is winter solstice which is very important to me so i will be busy all day tomorrow, BUT i should have the main mesh finished by Saturday, keep your eyes peeled lads, :D
Blessed be every one and have a safe winter solstice, yule tide blessings to one and all
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hey, SOME of us have partners like that, yk.
merry yule.
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What do you mean by that kelly?
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my partner is Pagan. he got today off.
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Ok guys, I am definitely feeling like I am back into the swing of this, Had a little chat with Adonis, Chris Knight and Max Loef who have just reminded me of a couple of tools and i am Well on my way with the BASIC shape, NOW i should have this done by now but My best friend and his fiancee *who is ALSO my best mate* have split up (this close to xmas, and them both being my best mates is REALLY not fun :cry:) so for the last few days I have been consoling him, but after he went home tonight I got STRAIGHT back into it and as it stands should be finished with the basic full model by tomorrow, then add detail and onto textures. The textures I must admit I am not worried about, I think they should be quite easy :D
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/basic.jpg)
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Hooray! :yay:
The BC community needs a high quality Vorcha very badly. I'm glad you're stepping up to the challenge phoenix!
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ok so my computer died on thursday night and untill now i have been far to ill to reinstall everything, but thank god i got it done today, Ok chaps here is an update on my vor'cha
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/5.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/6.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/9.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/8.jpg)
im not happy with the head so i will be redoing that but not until i have the nacelles done Hope u guys like her
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Really taking shape Mr P. Love it!
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looking good
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What's wrong with the head? It looks fine to me.
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Lookin good!
Keep up the amazing work!
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Nice and clean so far mate
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Right u messy buggers, here's at ya, i probably wont get anything done tomorrow, so To one and all happy new year, Looks like 2013 will have a nice early release from phoenix :D
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/10.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/11.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/12.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/13.jpg)
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Nothing I can see that's off, but then, I'm not an aficionado of the Vor'cha.
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looking sharp :thumbsup:
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Thank you :D
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Real slick man :) :thumbsup:
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well didnt do anything tonight due to my finacee and my self being ill, so i started to experiment instead
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/14.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/15.jpg)
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I approve of this update. :thumbsup:
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Seconded. MotM going to be close this month.
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in that case, *sniggers* can we withdraw nominations lol :evil: lol
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well didnt do anything tonight due to my finacee and my self being ill,
Is that what they're calling it these days? :p
Loving the detail (on the ship), she's looking very nice.
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Looking really good.
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A lot to live upto ;)
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Question, Do you guys want MVAM on the vor'cha? ie the detachable head?
i'll add a poll and see what u guys think
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Detachable head?
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(http://batleth.freeservers.com/vor'cha.gif)
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That ain't gonna work, Phoenix. :p
If it doesn't make any un-canon physical changes to the model, I say go for it. People don't have to use it if they don't want.
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If it doesn't make any un-canon physical changes to the model, I say go for it. People don't have to use it if they don't want.
There is a fighter carrier version and like two others than the standrard varient. You could detach the head on the playmate toys ship but I didn't want to for fear of breaking it. I don't know where they got that idea from though. I wouldn't mind either way. Its always seemed like a possibility to me though.
Oh and whats going to be the paint scheme for this bad boy? Will you be going with the TNG light blue or with the DS9 green with red panels?
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I was going to go for Green with red Panels, BUT was thinking later maybe watching blue ray tng and maybe making that colour as seperate release, also have about 3 different veriants 1 over-rework and then it basically move's into the Neg'va any way so i think im going to attempt that too
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How about a imperial version to go with my k'tinga and bop?
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How about a imperial version to go with my k'tinga and bop?
And why not :D :yay: - bazz we also need to come up with an idea for a shuttle too
Ok here is todays update, some minor mesh fixes, the emergency plasma manifold *girll areas* is now 1 single mesh not 4 different bits, so thank god thats all unifyed. added some more Lower neck detail and also added the aft round thing *i thought it was a torp launcher but people say its a shuttle bay :lostit: Meh! lol ok here you go guys
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/16.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/17.jpg)
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The round thing is a shuttlebay? :lostit: Klingons have weird ass shuttles then. :funny Looks good! :thumbsup:
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one say's Hannger bay doors another says Fusion Manifold, I always thought it was the aft torp launcher
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Me too, thought looking at the size of it compared to that "Bridge section", it's does look rather large.
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I always thought it was the aft torp launcher
ME TOOOO
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You're all wrong, it's a casino :P
(yeah I have no idea what it is either)
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I always thought that part was a Docking Port.
Well the FactFiles state it as Impulse Engines :facepalm:
But Considering this:
You're all wrong, it's a casino :P
... *girll areas*...
Klingons sure know how to party, No wonder they don't like Fed Ships! :funny
Edit: Forgot to say,
The (AFAIK) Actual Rear Torp Launcher, the box thing at the Triangular TopModule should be a bit more "round" at the edges.
Other than that, This Voch'cha looks great! :thumbsup:
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http://www.tehowners.com/info/Science%20Fiction/Star%20Trek%20Universe/BP%20KE%20Vor'Cha%20ventral.jpg
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Not sure I'd trust schematics that describe a "Bolognium Engine Shield". :funny
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I'd say it's believable as a torpedo launcher given that the torpedo launchers on the Ktinga and Brel are so oversized compared to the rest of the ship. Plus, putting a shuttle bay right between two impulse engines doesn't make much sense to me. Seems that if a shuttle tried to land while the ship was even moving slowly, the backwash from the engines would knock the shuttle of course.
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It could also be an access hatch to do service work on the engine room like on the NX class, granted I'm not sure if ease of maintenance would trump armor (or a really large weapon) on a klingon vessel.
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one say's Hannger bay doors another says Fusion Manifold, I always thought it was the aft torp launcher
Yes, it?s not clear. Recently, Tobias Richter finished a high polly version, which, probably, will be featured in one of those Star Trek remastered DVDs: http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/showthread.php?79684-Klingon-Vor%B4cha . Tobias is always in contact with Doug Drexler, John Eaves, official model builders and other peoples from Star Trek world, so, his mesh must be one of the most accurated. ;) In the renderings posted, I can?t see a shuttlebay there. Maybe, it?s the Fusion Mainfold in fact. :)
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you know i Actaully have contact with drex, so i'm just going to plain and simply ask him :D - WHY did i never ever think of this?!!!
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Ok, so lets be fair, i've been quite anal bout this ship, making sure i got things right or not, NOW i actually had a chat with Rich Sternbach, he has confirmed that i was correct the back area is indeed a Torpedo launcher, so Happy me away i went with today's modeling, firstly i thought the head was CRAP so i decided to redo it, this is the result, First picture is the underside head deflector array
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/18.jpg)
Front of the main bridge
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/19.jpg)
Aft of the main bridge,
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/20.jpg)
as stated the whole head is new, but i will be adding more detail as i go, it just looks a bit bland at present, but it will improve i promise
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/22.jpg)
also the front Top area of the neck was a bit boring i though, so i deleted all the face's and spare polys and decided to start it again, and well i was very happy with the result
Before
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/8.jpg)
After
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/21.jpg)
*EDIT*
I don't know if this is good or not, so be honest here please people so far it is sitting at
6,862 poly's
9,900 Tri's
8,317 Vert's
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With nacelles, around 12-15k polygons would be a good limit to shoot for.
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I have 22610 triangles in my galor... :D
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I have 50 plus in the jjprise :angel
Looks good, and always good to get feedback from the guys who worked on the models.
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It's not the amount of polygons that matter... It's how you use them. :P
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Wouldn't be Klingon with out some fire power
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/23.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/24.jpg)
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Looks great, poly's seem high though for the detail shown. I'm sure they will come down..
I love the Vorcha, your doing a great job so stick with it m8 :thumbsup:
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Just More Detail work
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/25.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/26.jpg)
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So cool.
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Looking really good, what's the polycount up to?
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Ok this is the last update for the night, I'm really pushing this as i wanted to get this finished before February, but its looking more and more unlikely.
Looking really good, what's the polycount up to?
Back then I'm not sure, But it is currently sitting at
Polys: 5.158
Tris: 7.530
Verts: 6.141
FPS: 119.388 *Frames Per Second??* (I think that's what it represents, BUT if it is, But in WHAT CONTEXT does it mean??)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/27.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/28.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/29.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/30.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/31.jpg)
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At this rate texturing will be easy as all the detail is built it.
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A long days work on this today, but funnily there isn't much to show, I have now finished the Sensor array Top sides Inner bits and Neck
This one doesn't have the inside part all done but the others do, as u can see i have added the strange thing on the pylon below the wing and above the nacelle
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/32.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/33.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/34.jpg)
Now tomorrow's task is to finish off the top side of the hull and move onto the head and get the neck in there so i can connect the two parts.
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It's amazing that there's this much detail even though there's only 5,000 or 6,000 polys. Keep up the good work!
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Don't forget the bits on the trailing edge of the wings. Not sure what they are exactly though..
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dude you are doing great work!
im not a fan but then i dont hate klingon ships... but im loving the Vorcha you are doing.
great job. i love modelled detail.
(i'm kind of speechless)
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Really looks excellent, Phoenix! Way to go!
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Nix, you are missing something. That model can't be the tri count you are stating :P
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Finally, a worthy Vor'Cha model! The stock one was so awful that I built my own replacement back in '02 - using my playmates toy for reference. I never properly textured it, so I never released it.
This is bringing back so many memories. How did that ship get so little attention over the years!?
There's been, what? RedDragon's low poly one, and Lint's crazy high-poly one... is that seriously it?!
Incredible when you consider that the stock model was such an utter dog.
Your surface modelling is exquisite! How can the tri-count be so low?
May I point out a missing detail that you are probably aware of?
There are what look like little narrow staircases in front of each of the large slanted grills either side of the Engineering arrowhead. (At least, there are on my playmates model - which is fairly screen-accurate.)
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Bren there have been 5 diff vor'chas released. I'm quite sure of this number I KNOW for a fact there were more than 2.
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May I point out a missing detail that you are probably aware of?
There are what look like little narrow staircases in front of each of the large slanted grills either side of the Engineering arrowhead. (At least, there are on my playmates model - which is fairly screen-accurate.)
yup im awear of it being there as i have seen the playmates toy and the amt ertel model kit, but i wont be adding them untill i fix that area up, so far she is now sitting at
16,408 tri's
That is after adding the main sensor arrays area, the neck and all that area, I think when finished it will be about 25k which is a bit crap, but once finished i'll do my best to optimize it :D
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sorry for the double post, BUT..i have decided that No matter how high the poly count gets i will just keep going, THEN once finished i will try to optimize it to the best of my ability, then Depending on what the poly count is i will delete parts and add them in as texture, THEN what i will do is Delete 1 STEP of all the detail and add that as a second file for Lower spec machines so basically i should have 3 models
High poly, Med poly, Low poly, Then people can choose what they want to use on their copy of bc :D - with any luck that should please all the damn High poly haters :P :yay:
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You could make some damn fine renders with the High poly one Phoenix, that's some bloody good work.
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Thanks man, I just need to learn how to do proper renders and lighting :D
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Cheat, in Photoshop. :funny
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Cheat, in Photoshop. :funny
You can show me later :P
Ok I'm really not feeling all that well, all bungged up and shit, so I'm going to call it quits for today, but here you go for the update
Polys: 11,624
Tris: 18.228
Verts: 11.617
FPS: 107.308
I've added the strange things at the back of the hull, i've added the detail onto the side of the neck, and some of the detail on the top and side's of the head, so apart from a couple of other bits i need to add to the head *which i will do last due to being asemetric* and a few other bits on the body, all that will be left is the underside :D with that in my mind im hoping the final count BEFORE i clean it up to be some where around
Polys: 14.422
Tris: 22.988
Verts: 14.022
This is just a rough guess using the ENITRE BODY again added on, so if that is right i'll be happy any more than that i'll start having to lower the count :(
any who I'm just rambleing now so here are the pictures.
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/35.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/36.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/37.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/38.jpg)
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When you done with this you should send it to one of those 3D printer companys. She'll make a great model kit.
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When you done with this you should send it to one of those 3D printer companys. She'll make a great model kit.
A lot of models made in the BC community would make great model kits. Too bad AMT doesn't do that.
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yeah, but didn't it get said in another thread that 3D printers ignore all smoothing groups?
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Ok, I'm starting to feel better, and as the title states Work on the bottom of the Vor'cha has indeed started, feast your eyes :D
The bottom of the head
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/39.jpg)
The Impulse Engines
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/40.jpg)
I actaully had to REMAKE the entire middle, but here is a shot of it with the impulse
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/41.jpg)
so far WIP full Underside body shot
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/42.jpg)
So far she is sitting at
Polys: 13.567
Tris: 21.158
Verts: 13.149
so fingers crossed for a finish at 25k :D
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One word for you dude.
Cookie!
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Amazing!
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Fantastic work to be sure. I am in awe of the detailing and would love to be able to do that some day. :bow:
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Absolutely phenomenal work!
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For you all for your kind words, I'm off to a modeling exerbition today so i won't get anything done, but tomorrow i intend to finish the bottom, sunday finish unifying the damn mesh, so by Tuesday/Wednesday i should be able to start working on unwrapping and textures :idk: lol
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I'm really enjoying the progress that you are making with this model. I'm glad to see that you are taking the time to add in as much mesh detail as possible. :thumbsup:
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excelent work :bow:
may i ask:
are the details extruded out of the main model or are they seperate meshes placed on the model and then welded?
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forgive me if this has been asked before, but, any chance you'll make the Chancellor class variant from the Gorkon books too?
That is looking awesome so far.
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excelent work :bow:
may i ask:
are the details extruded out of the main model or are they seperate meshes placed on the model and then welded?
Ok, this is how i have done then, They are part of the MAIN MESH, how i achived this is to select all face's where the detail is going to be going, at that point i detach it as a clone *JUST IN CASE* Then using a PLANE i draw out all the shapes of the detail, then i select Snap to, Right click on it and select vertex. go back to the part i cloned, turn on vertex and then CUT, using the snap to i go around each part cutting out the detail i need, making sure to weld and stray verts, if you don't quite understand what i mean i really dont mind doing some pictures for you.
forgive me if this has been asked before, but, any chance you'll make the Chancellor class variant from the Gorkon books too?
That is looking awesome so far.
Im afriad i have NO idea what you are on about :( sorry
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Ok, this is how i have done then, They are part of the MAIN MESH, how i achived this is to select all face's where the detail is going to be going, at that point i detach it as a clone *JUST IN CASE* Then using a PLANE i draw out all the shapes of the detail, then i select Snap to, Right click on it and select vertex. go back to the part i cloned, turn on vertex and then CUT, using the snap to i go around each part cutting out the detail i need, making sure to weld and stray verts, if you don't quite understand what i mean i really dont mind doing some pictures for you.
i have only a vage idea of what you mean but i use Gmax not 3ds Max so might not be possible for me...
i do something similar i think...
i do use the cut polygon tool to do some of my details normally my windows which i model into the hull
but yeah pics would be good dude lol
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Im afriad i have NO idea what you are on about :( sorry
This. (http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Qang_class) The head section is more curned and the triangular module has been replaced by a different structure.
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NOW i actually had a chat with Rich Sternbach, he has confirmed that i was correct the back area is indeed a Torpedo launcher
9 day old post, but, that is awesome.
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Very nice work :thumbsup:
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Just letting you guys know my SSD went down last night and this is the 5th time since december, So i have installed windows to a new 120gig partition on one of my normal HDD's untill i get a response from Scan about my SSD, FORTUNANTLY before it completely went i managed to back up my vorcha and all files with it, so by the end of the day i should be back up and running, and be able to start work again on it tomorrow, this has just put me 3 days behind my ideal schedule sorry guys :( :bitch:
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:yay: thank goodness you didn't lose the work! Kudos to you for diligent backing-up.
She's a real beauty.
What are you thinking, regarding textures? You could afford to skimp on resolutio, with mesh detail like THAT!
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i honestly don't know i've never built anything quite like this, so its going to be a complete test to be honest
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Well as off tonight, im on the last stretch of major detail :D its finally nearly done :dance :yay: :dance :yay: :dance :yay:
any who here is a WIP for you all
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/43.jpg)
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The painstaking work you've put into this is really admirable. Thanks for doing this.
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The painstaking work you've put into this is really admirable. Thanks for doing this.
its been a pleasure, i have learned so much from doing just this model :D i just hope it all pays off in the end :D
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Ok, as I stated I am now running 3 days behind schedule, so what can i do about it....I'll give you a hint, its 3:36am :nono: im going to feel it tomorrow :facepalm:
BUT i got all the bottom detail done, all that's left to do now is to go over the top part and merge it all together into 1 single mesh, and then add in the last few bits of detail that i can not do while its using the symmetry modifier, since as you all well know there are a couple of asymmetric parts on the head, so that is all that is left to do :D then comes the CLEAN UP, BUT i will give you the stats as they are now.
Polys: 23.726
Tris: 23.726
Verts: 14.363
FPS: 143.761
now what else can i do tonight, AH i know, tease the shit out of you guys :D
Hows this for you guys
Beauty shot 1
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/44.jpg)
Beauty shot 2
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/45.jpg)
Beauty shot 3
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/46.jpg)
Beauty shot 4
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/47.jpg)
Top View
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/48.jpg)
Side View
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/49.jpg)
Bottom View
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/50.jpg)
Front View
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/51.jpg)
Aft View
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/52.jpg)
And Finally just so u can see What i've done, here is the wireframe
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/53.jpg)
I hope you guys like it, shes not perfect but i am still trying to learn, maybe one day i'll get as good as Baz and Wiley
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Looks damned stellar to me!
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Remarkable! Well done!
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If it's not a unified mesh, it won't damage well in BC, and if you do unify it completely, that poly count will shoot up.
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Actually it is MOstly unified theres just a few bits that are not so it wont shoot up by much. Ryan when did u turn into such a sour puss
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May I point out a missing detail that you are probably aware of?
There are what look like little narrow staircases in front of each of the large slanted grills either side of the Engineering arrowhead. (At least, there are on my playmates model - which is fairly screen-accurate.)
As stated as i get closer to the end, i will be adding this, and now i have :D
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/54.jpg)
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Sour puss? I was just stating a fact. :P
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:eek wow!
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Incredible work.
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Wow, the detail on this thing is incredible :eek . Looks not too far off full CG quality already. Great work here; can't wait to see it finished.
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Aye to be fair it does look mostly unified, and you have done a great JOB :thumbsup:
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Ok guys one tiny slight problem, i can Finish unifying it it will be about 28 to 30k when done BUT it is high poly, i will also use this to BAKE textures onto lower poly versions but would u rather have it Unified but high poly, or un-unified and be about 5-8k less? this is a semi-important question, and as soon as i get a few response's i will finish the little bugger up :D - shes going to be ready to texture as of tomorrow :D YAY I DID IT :P
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I can't see the 5 to 8K making that much of a difference. Unify it.
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Unify
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30k is well withing my ancient graphics card's tolerance limits for polies and such (it goes by texture size, instead), and a lot of these guys don't exactly run stocker graphics chipsets. put her together.
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For comparison, what are the poly counts of some other high quality ships, such as Wiley's, Baz's and JLS' ships?
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You should unify it and make it clean!
For your own sake, never mind the community.. Unifying is getting the job done properly after all :thumbsup:
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Unify.
Cardinal Rule mate.
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Unify and weld verticies- lots of verticies.
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Whell im trying to map the bloody vor'cha and its being such a bitch, but as my title says WHAT SHIP SHALL I DO NEXT....remember im only a beginner and not very good, so you guys can choose from my list above, BUT if u want to add a sugestion feel free just make it easy"ish" please
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Not seen anything from the Ferengi for a while.
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Voting for a Rommie. I'd personally like to see the Valdore with this level of detail.
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Scimitar! SCIMITAR!
The BC community needs a good one so badly.
Other Suggestions (some of which have already been mentioned):
Klingon Neghvar
Ferengi Marauder
Cardassian Hideki
Dominion Bug
Sona Command Ship
Most of these only have low quality versions right now, and the Sona Command Ship has never been built by anyone.
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On this list the Dominion Bug.
But I have mad propps for John Eaves Scimitar.
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A little someone may have a little something something about the Scimitar people. And no, not me.
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A little someone may have a little something something about the Scimitar people. And no, not me.
Haha I'm using Mr Coyote is the man behind it! That would be a complete arse to texture!
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Ferengi FERENGI, all we have is a ship or two and couple small craft.
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put it in a vote when you get enough ideas.
I've already made my suggestion; only the Ferengi are missing. and, believe it or not, the stock model's actually decent and only needs a retex. if I still had my comp, I'd be finishing up my take on a retex.
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Scimitar! SCIMITAR!
The BC community needs a good one so badly.
Other Suggestions (some of which have already been mentioned):
Sona Command Ship
Most of these only have low quality versions right now, and the Sona Command Ship has never been built by anyone.
just to remind people wat i said
Whell im trying to map the bloody vor'cha and its being such a bitch, but as my title says WHAT SHIP SHALL I DO NEXT....remember im only a beginner and not very good, so you guys can choose from my list above, BUT if u want to add a sugestion feel free just make it easy"ish" please
SCIMITAR...really!! lol :banghead: :banghead: :idk:
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how about a borg cube. :P
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SCIMITAR...really!! lol :banghead: :banghead: :idk:
You did an amazing job at modeling the Vorcha. The Scimitar is not that much harder. You can do it! :D
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While I would love to watch you devlop the Scimitar, you might consider taking on Raven Night's Sabre or Punshir Class Subpredator (Reman Alliance). On the Romulan side, you might consider taking on GK Design's D'Shara Warbird. Suricata's Fuillha Class Romulan Warbird also looks interesting. On the Klingon side, I might suggest giving J.D. Robb's D-70 Khin'Vagh Class Battleship a go. As far as your skills go, you, my friend, passed the beginner stage long ago.
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I stick by the lost era romie that links the bop to the warbird.
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I stick by the lost era romie that links the bop to the warbird.
i might do 3 at once just so when i get bored
Norway
runabout *REAL WITH CHANGING PODS*
TLE Rommie *actaully have 2 in my mind*
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Bugger the norway. I'd love to see a more pleasant looking interpretation of the Shi'khar from STO. Perhaps one without pointless great holes in it's saucer?
TLE rommie sounds nice though.
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You did an amazing job at modeling the Vorcha. The Scimitar is not that much harder. You can do it! :D
Definitely not true. The Scimitar is much, much more complex than a Vorcha.
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It sure is.
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CGI Nebula class? :angel
lol
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CGI Nebula class? :angel
lol
I'll answer that.... AHH HECK NAAA!
How about a particular rommie station. ;)
edit: just noticed I am missing some 60 posts lol
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Scimitar (with moving wings). Or Dominion/Breen ships (badly need better versions).
I'm still hoping MarkyD will release his Runabout :P
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CGI Nebula class? :angel
lol
I'll answer that.... AHH HECK NAAA!
no one asked you
(http://bcs-tng.com/forums/Smileys/default/smack.gif)
edit: just noticed I am missing some 60 posts lol
yeah, it is called Forum Cleanup in the Admin panel...
and if you keep it up, ill take 600 more off your postcount :P
dont question me... :dontcare:
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I'm still hoping MarkyD will release his Runabout :P
Im actually texturing the underside as we speak. I'll post some WIP's later today.
I voted for the BUG.. I love that ship and I think you would do it justice :thumbsup:
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Bugger would of loved to try the runabout :( oh well
anywho, i have had a few pm's the over the last few weeks, all of which have been pleasantly surprised by, i'm going to show you guys a few, and just keep the people who sent them private
Amazing work. One of the best works ever done here on BCC.
I think wiley and baz should get scared now, because there is a new player in town that is gonna throw them out.
I'm looking forward to the end of it and other works that you are going to make! You can do it, you have proven it.
another nice one...which actually brighten a bit of a bad day for me
seriously dude you made a great model of the Vor'cha
and i hope you dont mind this PM but why on earth do you think you are not very Good?
Your modelling skill surpasses mine and ive been modelling longer than you i think (? i started in 2010 I think... maybe earlier but 2010 was my first wip)
i don't know how to explain your awesome skill...
i mean you built a Vorcha... a klingon ship... a type of ship im not over fond of but you have converted me.
you modelled in hull panels something i try to do but you are sooooo much better at it.
you ARE A GREAT MODELLER...an Artist i think. Please give yourself a pat on the back and please give yourself some credit.
and finally some one asked a question
i was wondering if u r going to release ur meshes like ur Proxima class and others?
Well, what can i say to that last one, i should, but where i don't feel like i am any good *yes i've always been a self hater lol* i end up giving up and moving onto somthing else, but with the Vor'Cha i have actually been pushing my self NOT to give up, i mean for god sake nix you have like 3 ships "READY TO BE PORTED" but i just end up moving onto somthing else.... I'm always feeling that i am not good enough to play with the big boys, i always impress my self with my mesh, but as soon as the Unwrapping and Texturing come up i get scared and run away, BUT i thought i would share a few items with you, that MAYBE one day i will finally get my ass into gear and finish and release the buggers....AS FOR THE UN-TEXTURED ONES if anyone wants to take up the task of helping me, by maybe mapping them and texturing them for me, we could get these out a damn site quicker ;D
Well think that's enough of my bitching and moaning, How about some of these
My TOS Romulan Battle Bird
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/battlebird1.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/battlebird2.jpg)
The Klingon Academy Romulan Centurion Cruiser
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/centurion.jpg)
TOS Romulan Bird Of Prey
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/bop1.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/bop2.jpg)
With PERMISSION *ATOM* TOS Romluan SUNHAWK
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/sunhawk.jpg)
TOS Romulan Vulture Class
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/vulture1.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/vulture2.jpg)
My own TNG Romulan Design Bird Of Pray
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/tngbop1.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/tngbop2.jpg)
NOW ONTO THE FEDS :D
Federation Space Station VANGUARD
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/vanguard1.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/vanguard2.jpg)
Space Station K-7 *with different veriants if and when its finished*
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/k7-a.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/k7-b.jpg)
TOS Kelvin Class
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/kelvin1.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/kelvin2.jpg)
TOS Marco Polo Class
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/marcopolo1.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/mp.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/mp1.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/mp2.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/mp3.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/mpwireframe.jpg)
TOS SWAC'S CLASS
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/Southerland.jpg)
With her sister ship the Marco-polo
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/sisters1.jpg)
TOS Vindicator Class
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/vindicator.jpg)
TOS Proxima Class
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/proxima1.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/proxima2.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/proxima3.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/proxima-blueprints.jpg)
TMP Oberth Class
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/Oberth.jpg)
TMP Oberth Medical Vessel
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/oberth-med.jpg)
Tmp Guardian-Class Attack Oberth Refit
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/gaurdian.jpg)
TMP Oberth Scout
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/oberthscout.jpg)
TMP Oberth Frigate
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/oberthfrigate1.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/oberthfrigate2.jpg)
TMP Oberth Carrier
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/oberthcarrier1.jpg)
NEMESIS Era Oberth Class
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/nem1.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/nem2.jpg)
My Terran Empire Sovereign Class
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/w2f/TEsov.jpg)
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I think wiley and baz should get scared now, because there is a new player in town that is gonna throw them out.
Bring it on I'm afraid of nobody :P
Where was the Strider in you back catalogue?
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I'd forgotten about that Nem Oberth. Great looking ship.
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Bring it on I'm afraid of nobody :P
Where was the Strider in you back catalogue?
you finished it lol
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Your TOS stuff is excellent Nix, I made a Render out of your Apollo Class a whist back (Still have your Betas). :D
http://killabc.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d5k1dn8
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Thats awesome man
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There are days when I wish BCC supported spoiler tags. That is a lot of pictures. :P
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:yeahthat:
There are days when I wish BCC supported spoiler tags. That is a lot of pictures. :P
:yeahthat:
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I picked the Bug from the list but yeah as the rest have said the D'Kora has been totally neglected. Though I'd personally start with the maruader then work my way up the Jem'Hadar ladder.
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That's quite a portfolio!
Fantastic work.
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That's quite a portfolio!
Fantastic work.
might be if i ever finished it
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Scimitar! SCIMITAR!
The BC community needs a good one so badly.
My team and I managed to capture one, and we have been studying it for the last few months in our shipyards. My engineers are having issues getting past its cloak, but we are making some breakthroughs. They tell me they may have something to report in the coming months.
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My team and I managed to capture one, and we have been studying it for the last few months in our shipyards. My engineers are having issues getting past its cloak, but we are making some breakthroughs. They tell me they may have something to report in the coming months.
Any sneaky teaser pics?
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Well looks like we have a winner
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/bug/bug1.jpg)
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Well looks like we have a winner
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/bug/bug1.jpg)
Looks good!
It will be nice to have a pretty new Bugship to blow up! :D
My team and I managed to capture one, and we have been studying it for the last few months in our shipyards. My engineers are having issues getting past its cloak, but we are making some breakthroughs. They tell me they may have something to report in the coming months.
:bow:
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Looks good!
It will be nice to have a pretty new Bugship to blow up! :D
indeed :D considering one of my test ships has 16 defiant phaser cannons... all forward facing :evil:
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Cool beans. You'll do it justice for sure.
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That's a fantastic start.
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Just brilliant!
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The appropriate size of the attack ship seems to be around 105 something meters.
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/dominion-battleship.htm
Just as with the Defiant it's appropriate to allow the most recognizeable feature lending to size dictate the scale and that is the windows.
At that size the attack ship is the works with around 3 or 4 decks and equals the size of the ship that crashed into the Odyssey.
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ok Mapping is nearly done on the Vor'cha AT FRACKING LONG LAST!!!, but got fed up with it today, and after a little help from baz i at least got 1 of a few problems over on my dominion bug :D
so here is a little teaser for you :D
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/bug/bug2.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/bug/bug3.jpg)
I am awear of a couple of errors i am seeing, BUT i will get around to fixing them, im having a lot of trouble with the underside of the main head/wings :(
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Errors or not, still looks much better than the ones we have. Good job. :thumbsup:
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The back of the abdomen is far too thin.
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20061018223038/memoryalpha/en/images/7/76/JemHadar_attack_ships_search,_The_Search.jpg
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It?s a good start. :)
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Do not worry, i haven't forgotten about this :D
Firstly thanks to all who voted for me in Motm, it is really well recived :doh:
But none the less, i finally finished mapping the damn body, it was really getting on my nerves, i know its not perfect and i will work on it more as i go, but at least finally i am starting to texture the body
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/55.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/56.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/57.jpg)
PS i know the yellow bits are SHIT, i will be fixing them soon
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Nice. Can't wait to see this finished. I'll likely be pouring over her to find out how you made her, might learn a thing or three. :P
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WOW.
That is all. Have a cookie.
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Its not perfect?... Are you delusional... Its pretty damn perfect as far as i can see
:bow: :yay:
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You DO know that we will expect a Negh'Var as well after seeing how good this is? ;) :D
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You DO know that we will expect a Negh'Var as well after seeing how good this is? ;) :D
i expect a large sum of money in my bank by monday..
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Or the Kitty gets it :D :facepalm:
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:samtarget:?
:eek :(
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Mvam Shuttle? :funny
Stay tuned!
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Spoilers lol
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/lol.jpg)
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Argo Shuttle?
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Model A Ford? :idk:
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Danube class?
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Well I know what it is but for the fun of it Kirk air tram :funny
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Star Trek 09 shuttle?
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OH, Oh, oh, I know, i knw, A BOX :yay: :yay: :yay: :yay: :yay: :funny :funny :funny :funny
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:yeahthat: :funny
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The vulcan shuttle from TMP?
It separated to dock with the E after all.
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Spoilers lol
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/lol.jpg)
we finished guessing yet??
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/lol2.jpg)
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the Danube?
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the Danube?
Can't keep this quite any more need to show people!!!
Ok firstly i know i haven't put the windows in yet, but this is it WITHOUT any pods of any kind!
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/runabout/1.jpg)
Front View
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/runabout/2.jpg)
Rear View
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/runabout/3.jpg)
Top View
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/runabout/4.jpg)
Different Pod Module
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/runabout/5.jpg)
its running a little high on the poly count the normal full runabout is clocking in at 14.740 polys - Woops : :nono: i will try and get this down if not then...Meh bollocks to it it can stay high :D save's :banghead: lol
Well i hope you like my big reveal and i need to take my time with texturing this as im so super happy with the mesh so far
Later guys
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Very nice, never knew the Danube had pods. I thought that was a mean looking variant in the first shot. A huge improvement. xD
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Neat. Kinda curious to what all ideas you have for modules.
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Excellent!
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Now that is sweet :thumbsup:
Tim
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Very cool idea! Can't wait to see what else you come up with! Maybe a marine transport?
Very nice, never knew the Danube had pods. I thought that was a mean looking variant in the first shot. A huge improvement. xD
It was said that its supposed to be modular for the mission that it was doing similar to the Nebula. But this was never carried out onscreen except for the ones with the torp pods.
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Reminds me of this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CH-54_Tarhe) thing.
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Don't worry i'm still working on her, slowly, but surely
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/58.jpg)
Bottom
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/59.jpg)
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Take your time. It is already looking good.
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Take your time. It is already looking good.
A master of understatement.
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A master of understatement.
Look at his work and say understatement again :funny
Phoenix mate :) that's a bloody fine Vor'Cha you got there :) cookie !
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you wouldn't believe how much of a pain in the ass this has been, worst model to texture for me ever, it dont help im not that great at textures but its a coming boys its a coming
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not that great at textures huh ? ;) those renders says otherwise ;)
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lol bones he keeps saying he's not very good... i think hes going for mass "but you are good" responses lol
to phoenix: you ARE good stop looking at your bc work with you eyes shut !!!!
looks good... will you do a green one or am i jumping the gun on that and you re-colour at a later date
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not that great at textures huh ? ;) those renders says otherwise ;)
:yeahthat:
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cheers guys means a lot, and no im not after syperthy lol i just dont think im that good,
will you do a green one or am i jumping the gun on that and you re-colour at a later date
i must have my eyes closed....IT is green lol
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cheers guys means a lot, and no im not after syperthy lol i just dont think im that good,
i must have my eyes closed....IT is green lol
really hmm i think something is wrong with my monitor then cause it looks grey to me
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really hmm i think something is wrong with my monitor then cause it looks grey to me
lol epic fail :funny
Great work phoenix btw!
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Ah just looked at it on my phone... Yep it is green lol
damn technology lol
so as a green vorch it looks great lol
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I'm seeing a green-grey sort of colour...
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Well, i today i found i had a copy of a copy of copy of a fracking copy of some ships in my HDD'S *YES HDD'S Not 1 but on all bloody 3* so i decided to start and organize them, and during my long horrible process of organising my shit, i came across a ship i fell in love with and wish i had finished, so with all my new skill'z i've gone back to her and intent to finish her
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/392631_10200542755787166_1140670_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/547413_10200542756627187_1860795178_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/525266_10200542757067198_148517306_n.jpg)
with some specs and light :D
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/531850_10200542801748315_318958550_n.jpg)
*AS for the vorcha, i don't know if i can finish it, but im going to try, now i was wondering if there is some kind fellow out there that might re-map it for me so it would be better to texture??*
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She already looks a beauty!!!
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I agree, she is a fine looking ship!
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What a neat design, although the edge of the pod has a TNG feel to it.
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I remember that one.. :D
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hey Phoenix what ever happened to those stations I gave you ages ago?
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hey Phoenix what ever happened to those stations I gave you ages ago?
in my TBF area (to be finished) - Umm...broke a cardian rule, reviving threads over 30 days old :P ;) lol
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a bit of a vor'cha update for everyone. I've 100 given up on the mapping, BUT yay some very lully person is doing it for me YAY!!!!!!
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Until I read the second half I was saddened. xD Looking forward to that Vor'cha.
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I wonder who that is?
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Well I can clarrifie, and say with utmost sureness , Not Me, :yay: I been waiting on it
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ok guys im having shit loads of problems sussing Animated Buzzards via Nifskope they can be done though max 3 but its not working correctly on windows 8 and getting it back to that format is a pain in the ass, so i ask this question How bothered are you if the buzzards are animated?
The last few polls i've done more people posted a response than actually voted, so this time i would ask, ONLY VOTE but feel free to share your opinions and Why you feel what you do. only the votes on the poll will be counted at the end of the week
many thanks guys
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i voted yes, but...
... its great to have extra bits like that on ships, i will be wanting to have animated textures one day on my ships. but its not overly important to me in the long term, its nice added extra.
i guess you have this but just incase:
http://bc-central.net/forums/index.php/topic,7161.0.html
it has a downloadable tutorial
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windows 8
There's your problem. :p
I voted yes, same reasoning as Hobbs. It's a nice thing to see that helps to sell the ships, but it's not something that's absolutely necessary. Besides, no one shall notice in the still shots. :p
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Unwrap done an a basic texture applied as a guide for Nix.
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5521/9389641435_063bb1a18b_o_d.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7335/9392415882_362923e8d3_o_d.jpg)
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3686/9389641407_bbc1aae773_o_d.jpg)
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5334/9389641385_840b7d6b8a_o_d.jpg)
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:yay:
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Very nice :thumbsup:
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and so it begins :( - remind me never to go this crazy on a mesh again!
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/18402_10201214062369411_733886478_n.jpg)
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Looking excellent!
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agreed... :thumbsup:
you cant stop at one dude... next is the Negvar :D
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TWO WOrds, OH MY :dance
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and so it begins :( - remind me never to go this crazy on a mesh again!
Hey Nix...don't go crazy on a mesh again :P
Loving the work :) Can't wait to have this on my install XD
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you cant stop at one dude... next is the Negvar
Phoenix encoded the schematics to my shipyards.
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I was going to reply with a *cough* but that works too.
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:bow:
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Exceptional work!
Is it just a graphical anomoly, or is there something amiss with the forward section, dorsal starboard side, 3rd 'bump' from the front. The front facing section of the 'bump' appears to have something missing...?
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Is it just a graphical anomoly, or is there something amiss with the forward section, dorsal starboard side, 3rd 'bump' from the front. The front facing section of the 'bump' appears to have something missing...?
likely a bad matID, or a missing face.
also....
...cant... handle...
....so... much... detail.... @.@
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likely a bad matID, or a missing face.
also....
...cant... handle...
....so... much... detail.... @.@
Thats what a few computers will say :P
Exceptional work!
Is it just a graphical anomoly, or is there something amiss with the forward section, dorsal starboard side, 3rd 'bump' from the front. The front facing section of the 'bump' appears to have something missing...?
save the picture and upload it showing me what u mean please?
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Think he means this, which is just my quick rough texture not the model.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7359/9398130561_35131d24f4_o_d.jpg)
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Baz got it.
I wasn't nitpicking, just wanted to point it out in case it became a problem later on.
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Best way to look at the detail is right up close lol
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/993347_10201225456974269_558732401_n.jpg)
and 2 more shots of the ships its self so you can see the progress
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1011584_10201225456534258_135898823_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/198637_10201225456614260_1754890958_n.jpg)
all i can say is BLARG!!! im hating this model lol :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Double post update!! :yay:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/998055_10201230942951415_297635447_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/544492_10201230943071418_293596332_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/971572_10201230943351425_870905554_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/59596_10201230943231422_209647160_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/998869_10201230943191421_1529655094_n.jpg)
this is not the finished product i am still building - lots of layers and levels of detail :( i think i deffently bit off more than i can chew on this one...BUT I WILL NOT BE BEATEN!!
(note on TOS nacelles - I CANNOT get them to animate :( :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:)
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Looking. Good.
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She's really starting to take shape now :D
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/970834_10201233482694907_621156242_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/935850_10201233482814910_454535662_n.jpg)
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Wow Mr P!
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Looking very realistic.
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You have done this vessel great honor
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That's fantastic!
Cookie.
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awesome dude... cookie from me too :D
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Does anyone else think it actually looks like a physical model? O.O
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I do. What a fine job. Perfection!
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Does anyone else think it actually looks like a physical model? O.O
You are not the only one.
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You are not the only one.
Oh shit, was this not the site for model kits lol, thanks guys thats a real compliment, ok for todays updates i bring you.... more annoying detail and Windows..OH windows somthing different YAY
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/48081_10201239700250342_411862781_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/375642_10201239700010336_1463068124_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1013677_10201239699530324_1112698370_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/27302_10201239700330344_778431270_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1003755_10201239700370345_1305097638_n.jpg)
and just to check the windows work!
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/543764_10201239732531149_394184192_n.jpg)
sorry this is taking me so long guys, just not as use to it as the big boys - Heres looking at u baz & Wiley!
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:yay:
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Really cool stuff. Cookie inbound.
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damn fine work! :bow:
and yep it does look real!
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,,,,,sorry this is taking me so long guys, just not as use to it as the big boys,,,,,,,
Take your time. :D
You have brought this one to life, awesome Vor'Cha :thumbsup:
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A very good color tone.
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Does anyone else think it actually looks like a physical model? O.O
I almost called him out for just posting pics of the model.
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very very nice :thumbsup:
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Ok so i must of spent a good 4 or more STRIGHT damn hours on her today, but GRRR i still ant finished, BUT i do think that i am now on the home stretch :D
So just before i start, i have some work to do on the impulse/warp glows, the fwd and aft torp bays and well more sodding weathering and detail :( lol, i promise you guys the wait will be worth it :D
Top
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-e_vZt33SMOk/Uf2OG-RYYgI/AAAAAAAAEpY/mlaGheyRRUw/w1431-h805-no/Top.jpg)
Front Right Side
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Yq6TEo0Q4Xk/Uf2OaoLcoZI/AAAAAAAAEpw/89Wn92fwQg4/w1431-h805-no/3.8.13A.jpg)
Front Left Side
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9rE4DHaLgw8/Uf2Oa2Jt2GI/AAAAAAAAEps/wDdqfTooEn4/w1431-h805-no/3.8.13B.jpg)
Aft High
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-MNygQGAxU2o/Uf2OanxS1qI/AAAAAAAAEpo/BaFyX0O7qyU/w1431-h805-no/3.8.13C.jpg)
Direct Aft
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-XWzgdUOKX18/Uf2Offj_AWI/AAAAAAAAEqA/kiUOuOxiaB4/w1431-h805-no/Aft.jpg)
Bottom Left
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-QudWIEqFfm4/Uf2OcC6-mSI/AAAAAAAAEp4/o1Z_1Ab-YMQ/w1431-h805-no/3.8.13D.jpg)
Bottom
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9J2qlkR8R68/Uf2OiZSNtTI/AAAAAAAAEqM/MQqvU9_1A88/w1431-h805-no/Bottom.jpg)
Fwd
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-nx03RbxygF4/Uf2Oi57A4wI/AAAAAAAAEqQ/FlKdkyBnT7g/w1431-h805-no/Fwd.jpg)
Side
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-loszh-JslC8/Uf2OkEesEII/AAAAAAAAEqY/09ZqkKpBpWU/w1431-h805-no/Side.jpg)
Now the last one, is a shit copy of the BIG picture, i can't host it on my ftp atm and at over 5megs for a pic, no where will host it, but when i can i promise to upload it, its 100% identical to this, except u can zoom SO stupidly far in its unreal :D Anywho, Enjoy
Schematic
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-OUxXolTfrMY/Uf2OBXseX8I/AAAAAAAAEpQ/Oztc7XaQO0E/w1597-h692-no/Schimatic.jpg)
on a last note, thank you very very much for all the kind words, but i really couldn't of gotten this far with out the help and support of all you awesome people :D
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:eek
:bow:
:yay:
Qapla!
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nice looking vorcha!
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She is a work of art!
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W O N D E R F U L L !!!!!
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If I had more processing power I'd like to animate this ship with my k'tinga and bird if prey and do a cool Klingon battle scene.
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A masterpiece! :yay:
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Outstanding!
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This is a vessel worthy of a Klingon Warrior
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So realistic it could be put up for auction at Christie's Auction in NY. You really out did yourself this time. Your paint scheme is perfection. You really deserve :bow: for this one.
Thank you for the model and all the hard work put into it.
Adam
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So realistic it could be put up for auction at Christie's Auction in NY. You really out did yourself this time. Your paint scheme is perfection. You really deserve :bow: for this one.
Thank you for the model and all the hard work put into it.
Adam
cheer man, and thank you all for ur support, wont be long now i promise, 1 week max to finish her and then over to tiq for hard points
Work left to be done
Aft Detail
Red Panneling tweeks
Nacelle Glows (need to make them look right)
some more slight colour tones (find it hard due to being colour blind)
Shadow maps (yes i use these and yes they work for what i want but i dont decided if im using them till after i've tested them)
Specs
Porting
Hardpoints
then from all you lovely people my dad has emailed me asking for new desktop pics, so get them coming in :D
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Nice one Mr P, shadow maps sound interesting
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Since we talking about the Vor'Cha and her hardpoints, does anyone have a good reference as to her armaments, location of armaments, types etc...
I remember I saw her firing disruptor bolts from her fore twin tips, but you also see her firing disruptor beams, needless to say its possible they can alternate between beams and burst but there's not too much info on her armament layout.
In any case, what will you have on your Vor'Cha?
Adam
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then from all you lovely people my dad has emailed me asking for new desktop pics, so get them coming in :D
No problem. :)
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guess this is kinda best reference:
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Vor'cha_class (http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Vor'cha_class)
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AMT? ERTL?
Seriously though, don't know how you keep selling yourself short when you can churn out something as crazy good as this.
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AMT? ERTL?
Seriously though, don't know how you keep selling yourself short when you can churn out something as crazy good as this.
Simple, I got damn lucky! - was say to wiley the other day, Fuck knows how i could better this, and his response was if i can do this now, imagine if i keep pushing what i might be able to do in 2-3 years time, try somthing organic, try the galaxy class" - my response to that was FUCK OFF lol.. i know most of it is probably in my own head, self doubt and crap like that, but when a mind wonders and u cant keep it under cheack or control it can give you some challenges, trust me, i am my own worst enemy and i do fight every day to try and over come my problems, but it is easier said than done.
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Simple, I got damn lucky! - was say to wiley the other day, Fuck knows how i could better this, and his response was if i can do this now, imagine if i keep pushing what i might be able to do in 2-3 years time, try somthing organic, try the galaxy class" - my response to that was FUCK OFF lol.. i know most of it is probably in my own head, self doubt and crap like that, but when a mind wonders and u cant keep it under cheack or control it can give you some challenges, trust me, i am my own worst enemy and i do fight every day to try and over come my problems, but it is easier said than done.
I know what you mean. I've had hard times too, hell, everyone has. It is hard, but you get through it, and when you do, you feel a bit better. I think that, hat you survive, makes you stronger, and you learn from your mistakes. There will always be more hard times, but, at least you know that you've got family, friends, and us to help you out. I have had a hard 18 years, because my dad was never around, only saw him 4 times in my life. Now that I'm 18, he doesn't even have to pay child support. I have had it rough, but, even though i didn't have a dad, I had a loving mom. Even if you are adopted, if you have a loving mother or father that you can call family, you will get through life.
I hope life gets better for you. I know how it is, we all do.
Also, This is the best Vor'cha I have EVER SEEN! Great job dude, cookies away!
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I know what you mean. I've had hard times too, hell, everyone has. It is hard, but you get through it, and when you do, you feel a bit better. I think that, hat you survive, makes you stronger, and you learn from your mistakes. There will always be more hard times, but, at least you know that you've got family, friends, and us to help you out. I have had a hard 18 years, because my dad was never around, only saw him 4 times in my life. Now that I'm 18, he doesn't even have to pay child support. I have had it rough, but, even though i didn't have a dad, I had a loving mom. Even if you are adopted, if you have a loving mother or father that you can call family, you will get through life.
I hope life gets better for you. I know how it is, we all do.
Also, This is the best Vor'cha I have EVER SEEN! Great job dude, cookies away!
You kinda got the completely wrong idea on what i ment and where i was going!, sorry man!
ok. there is ONLY so much this old game can handle, consume and dish out, so that is it!!!! :banghead: :banghead: After GOD knows how long i've spent working on this bloody project, i think its time i finally bowed my head and say
!!!FINISHED!!!
all i can say is at long FRACKING last.. JEEZ i thought i was going to pull my hair out on this, it has pushed me to the limit and well beyond, i 1 never thought i'd get the mesh finished, 2 never thought i'd get her mapped (took ages to get someone to do it) Thank you so much baz, u don't know how much I and probably every one here appricate it!!! 3 Even manage to pull off the damn textures!!! but YAY im done, a few tweaks to do to the bussards and nacelle lighting when i get a chance to grab wiley. But with out further nagging and bitching from me, here you guys go, The I.K.S Phoenix
AFT
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/969410_10201267092095121_282249714_n.jpg)
Bottom
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/988278_10201267092495131_1723941229_n.jpg)
Fwd
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/998629_10201267092135122_1487726407_n.jpg)
Side
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1011552_10201267092175123_2071199054_n.jpg)
Top
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1003862_10201267092695136_1470218903_n.jpg)
Profile 1
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/996583_10201267093215149_110656598_n.jpg)
Profile 2
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/1000944_10201267093135147_476403584_n.jpg)
Profile 3
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1016045_10201267093055145_50812102_n.jpg)
Profile 4
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1002137_10201267093295151_1397638883_n.jpg)
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congratulations dude... a work of art!
:yay: :bow:
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As good as it can get!
Thank you for this Phoenix... it's exceptional.
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Thank you for your hard work and congrats! :yay: :thumbsup:
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Best. Vor'cha. EVER. :dontcare: 'nuff said.
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Ooooh. I hope testing goes smoothly so it can be released quickly. Woohoo. Ty
Adam
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Looking good. So... High polie Narada next? :p
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Looking good. So... High polie Narada next? :p
Ohh....NO! lol
thanks for all the kind words guys, eta for beta out is friday and will be in house tested by the wonderful guys of Sfsy's ;) i will try to send it out to tiq late thursday as im speaking to wiley about bussards and glows just to finalize mine off, so fingers crossed and a good nice clean fast beta, u might see it over the weekend or begining of next week!
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:yay: :bow:
Amazing work Mr P!
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Looking good. So... High polie Narada next? :p
:facepalm:
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id beta but im going to be too busy....
BLOODSTOCK!!!!!
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id beta but im going to be too busy....
BLOODSTOCK!!!!!
Meh I've PLAYED IT!!!
but still hate you!
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Narada? Nahh. High poly son'a battleship :D
Phoenix, that is an amazing piece of craftsmanship. If you can think of any other kind words to say, feel free to add them :P
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Narada? Nahh. High poly son'a battleship :D
Wiley allready did that.
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and I got to Beta it, 2048 textures and all (didn't have to shrink textures, either!) thought you knew about that one, C.O.
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I like how you combined the two known paint jobs with this beast. Even better that you toned down the aqua/sky blue to a much more realistic looking color. She looks absolutely freaking solid man. Well worth the wait/work effort.
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She's on her way to be hardpointed as i type this! :yay: :yay: :yay: :dance :dance :dance :yay:
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Wiley allready did that.
He did? when?
and I got to Beta it, 2048 textures and all (didn't have to shrink textures, either!) thought you knew about that one, C.O.
No I didn't know about it. Remember, I was away from the forums for a good long while when I was deployed to iraq and afghanistan a few years back.
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He did? when?
Originally released 01/02/2012 at BCfiles.
http://michaelwileyart.com/pages/shipmodpages/sonabattleship.html
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Originally released 01/02/2012 at BCfiles.
http://michaelwileyart.com/pages/shipmodpages/sonabattleship.html
Ah, that's why. I was in Afghanistan back then. Had been for several months.
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Beta is over, she'll be released with in next couple of days :D :yay: :yay:
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Beta is over, she'll be released with in next couple of days :D :yay: :yay:
Days. Days. Nooooooooo. How about hours :D
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Beta is over, she'll be released with in next couple of days :D :yay: :yay:
I was trying to beta, but the damn download wouldn't complete.
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ok guys its out go to the download area for links!
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Not working with me.. Quickbattle won't load with me. Have a clean kob.maru install.
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Not working with me.. Quickbattle won't load with me. Have a clean kob.maru install.
Same Problem here
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Not working with me.. Quickbattle won't load with me. Have a clean kob.maru install.
Sounds Very much like it didnt all unzip or you got bad dwnld, Where did you downld from?
It ought not to, there is nothing Special [like Ftech, MVAM] HMMMMMM :banghead: :idk:
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Filefront
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Ill see , what happens to me..
mean time try www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/SFSY/Tiq/Pho_VorCha.zip see how that goes
:facepalm:
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i get bsod
but i think its just the ship plugin file in the custom/ships folder
i made a new one and it works fine
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YES, folks it is the pluggin , Apologize
it should be longName = 'VorCha DS9'
not longName = 'Vor'Cha DS9'
:banghead: :hithead: :banghead: :hithead: :banghead: :hithead:
the one at above Link has the correction
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are you going to fix and re upload for the people that dont know what to do??
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YES, I just got back, from taking nephew home. :doh: :hithead: :banghead:
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It is done, http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/Klingon_VorCha_Attack_Cruiser;121921
this is the new one fixed :lostit:
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something new to blow holes in :evil:
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Something I noticed was that the model's center seems to be near the front instead of in the actual center. This means the ship rotates in-game about a point that is too far forward. Was this intentional?
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no it shouldn't have been this didnt happen on my system as i wouldn't of let it release with out, again i will have to confirm with tiq, i appoligise
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DS9 & TNG style Vor'cha Class
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/vorcha/1.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/vorcha/2.jpg)
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Simply Wonderfull! :bow:
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Nice work Nix!
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Perfection! :bow:
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:eek
there is no stopping you! :bow: :yay:
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Works of art, beautiful :thumbsup: :bow:
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There it is! The details and the textures are perfect!
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TNg veriant is out for testing!
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ok i have had a couple of people say my vor'cha is off center, now out rightly i blammed tiq since he had to re-size it for me, BUT alas seems it was actually my fault, is this a big issue for people or not? if it is i will try my best with OUT giving tiq to much work to fix this, IF it can be done in nifskope all the better
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the coordinates issue i can solve in minutes.
but the HP will have to be re-done.....
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If , I looked correctly, I can make the change in NifScope, fairly easy, I havent Looked at the HP yet.
and you are correct , the placements do need repositioning.
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If , I looked correctly, I can make the change in NifScope.
if this is true, please do let me know how you did it, id like to know how else to change the pivot point on models in nifskope rather than how i normally do it.
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Nothing to it.
Load your NIF into NifScope as normall.
[ make sure you got "Draw Axis" on so you can see]
then go to NiNode---Scene Root [right click]
goto Transform, then down to Edit [click on it]
[[new window pops up]] goto Translation,
the field for the Y axis [that fore and and aft]
then press up or down arrows, then when you got Axis
where you want 'Accept' then Save your Nif.
there you go
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copied and cookied :P
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ok i have had a couple of people say my vor'cha is off center, now out rightly i blammed tiq since he had to re-size it for me, BUT alas seems it was actually my fault, is this a big issue for people or not? if it is i will try my best with OUT giving tiq to much work to fix this, IF it can be done in nifskope all the better
i never noticed it lol so cant be that bad lol
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Same here, I always assumed the design would swing her ass out wide like it does anyhow
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oh i see its spin axis is forward of the centre of the ship... noticed it didnt bother me lol.
i just think its a great ship. my only nitpick is its POWERFUL lol both senses of the word.
its power system is off the screen so it only shows the orange bar on the engineers screen
and
i just took out the vesta class with little damage to my shields and i think only my tractor emitter was damaged lol
but despite these very minor items its a great Vor'cha! well done Phoenix and tiq :dance
i just love all the panelling :D
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Here's how it sits when imported to Blender, either as an export .OBJ from NifSkope or the raw .NIF itself.
(http://i1265.photobucket.com/albums/jj508/Harland_B/Forum%20Images/VorchaPlacement.jpg) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/Harland_B/media/Forum%20Images/VorchaPlacement.jpg.html)
Also, unrelated but, when I export it out from Blender to a .X for use in the NanoFX viewer, it will not load. It gets rejected by the viewer instantly. Any ideas? I've converted other models of yours Phoenix, and they have worked fine. I've tried multiple import/export methods, none so far have worked...:(
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Also, unrelated but, when I export it out from Blender to a .X for use in the NanoFX viewer, it will not load. It gets rejected by the viewer instantly. Any ideas? I've converted other models of yours Phoenix, and they have worked fine. I've tried multiple import/export methods, none so far have worked...
Maybe because Phoenix's mesh is that epic. :evil:
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You know something, that is just quite possible damnit! :funny
But, I would love to get it into the viewer, as I know I can get some really nice shots! :P
HELP! :funny
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i really don't know what to say...But in other news TOS ANIMATION IS A WIP 3 Clever minds batteling it right this second!!...ok 2.5 :P
if this works will have at least 4 TOS ships ready for hping and beta soon :D
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Yay! I love TOS ships!
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Ok so after a good few days of fighting and fighting and fighting I've finally cracked it, Big thanks to all who helped test/dive into nif's and look at structure!
Yes listening to the new avenge seven fold album.....its not as good as the older stuff :(
and just for fun!
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/bc/feds.jpg)
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Nice one Nix!
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:yay: Let the bussards be spinning.
No all we have to do is workout how to export bridges without max3 and we are on a winner.
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Great work nix!
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That's one nice looking ship.
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That's one nice looking ship.
No GMunoz.....screw the ship....ANIMATED BUSSARDS!!!! - you can do this with ur tos stuff too then
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Nice Work!
@Baz, well the first thing we need to do, is see exactly how Max3's exporter differs from the current one in the way it writes the file, as its operation within the program.
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Well i decided to go back though my catalogs and see what i've got on the table to do still :hithead: :banghead: WTF did i do that for...OH MY GOD HOW MUCH!!!
any who i've comprised a list and hopefully i will get it all done at some point, tbh now im getting to grips with it more, they should come rolling out quite quickly
so lets start this list! *note will post list and status onto the first post too, so u can keep updated*
FEDERATION
THE ORIGINAL SERIES
Constitution - released
Kelvin late tos - hp'ing
Kelvin Early Tos - Adjust the mesh
Marco Polo - Hp'ing
K7 - Need Mapping (Hi Baz)
Vanguard Station - needs mapping (Hello Baz)
Vindicator Class - fix windows and port
Swacs Class - ready for porting
Saratoga Class - Fix windows and port
Saladin Class - ready for porting
Ptolemy Class - Need help with Mvam
Proxima Class - repair textures tweek mesh and update (may have to remake)
Miranda Class - Fix windows and port
Jayden Class - fix windows and port
Rayfield Class - need help with Mvam pls
Federation Class - Rebuild using connie and proxima parts
ROMULANS
Battle Bird - Ready for porting
Bird of Prey - needs fixing
Senegal - needs fixing and texturing
THE MOVIE PERIOD
Oberth Scout - cheak for errors apply textures and port
Oberth *stock* - cheak for errors apply textures and port
Oberth Medical - cheak for errors apply textures and port
Oberth Heavy Scout - cheak for errors apply textures and port
Oberth Guardian Class - cheak for errors apply textures and port
Oberth Frigate - cheak f0r errors apply textures and port
Strider - Released
KLINGON
Vor'Cha DS9 - Released
0s]Vor'Cha TNG - Released [/s]
Imperial Vor'cha -Texturing
Raptor - to be built
rapier - to be built
ALIEN
Rayfield Freighter - released
Half started work that needs to be finished or Scraped
FEDERATION
Ambassador Class
DS9 Runabout
TOS repair yard
Galaxy Class - More as practice for me than to release
ROMULANS
TNG Bird Of Prey
Centurion
Romulan Station
Sunhawk
Vulture
If i really get my ass in gear i can get 25 out damn quickly as they got back logged due to not knowing how and what i was doing
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You asked me to post something, so here's some motivation.. :P :funny
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2803/4399261239_793394a4f4_z.jpg?zz=1)
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:eek
Lol
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That is quite some list! :funny
Operation Phoenix
(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss74/mckinneyc_2009/OperationPhoenix_zpsf4b2a78b.jpg) (http://s563.photobucket.com/user/mckinneyc_2009/media/OperationPhoenix_zpsf4b2a78b.jpg.html)
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done this today, have also uploaded it to the tutorial forum area
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blimey, that sure wasn't the voice I expected!
had to do some similar manipulation myself when I fixed a couple ships that weren't lit up. wish I could remember the proceedure...
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im honestly thinking how i could apply this :P
cant though >.<
but EPIC discovery none the less nix!
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Ok so on the Cards right i'm finishing off my TOS stuff, since i have now sussed out the bussard glows and animation, i can happily say that we're are ago with Origins, so far these are the finished ones that have been sent out for beta or waiting to be Hp'd
Kelvin Early TOS
Kelvin Late TOS
Marco Polo
Federation Class
Apollo
Saladin
Swacs
Rayfield (renamed from the old Hudson)
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W.I.P. Shots - not perfect quality but was asked to put these up
Federation Class
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/bc/federation.jpg)
Marco Polo
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/bc/marcopolo.jpg)
Apollo
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/bc/apollo.jpg)
Vindicator - finished Miranda style hull, mapped, and now texturing
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/bc/vindicator.jpg)
Rayfield
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/bc/reyfield.jpg)
Kelvin - no idea what went wrong with this x.x
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/bc/kelvin.jpg)
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Since i sorted out animations in Nifskope this is somthing i've wanted to try
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Sweet! :bow:
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Took me a few seconds to notice that the blinkers were going. Very cool! We had a Voyager with animated blinkers like that a very long time ago, always wondered why no one else tried it.
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i may try that in future lol
awesome :thumbsup:
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Awesome stuff nix!
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Something i've been working on with Mckinney
THE TOS Constellation Enjoy
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1269125_516339618450302_235443093_o.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/1274630_516339611783636_658760977_o.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1276890_516339615116969_1207724583_o.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1270360_516339665116964_1916687796_o.jpg)
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I would love to see this with launching capabilities. if you get it to the hardpoint stage, I hope it has a decent fighting capability.
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She will ;)
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lovely ship dude!
love the constellation and this is a cool pre-refit version lol
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Speechless :bow:
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Looking great!!
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looking great
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Them Constellation classes, to me, always looked aggressive. Lovin this!
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She's looking pretty sweet! :thumbsup:
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Awesome! :thumbsup:
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Update for the Origins Style Constellation TOS :D
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/bc/star1.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/bc/star2.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/bc/star3.jpg)
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I approve. :thumbsup:
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So gorgeous!
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Masterpiece.
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While work constinues on the Constellation i have had time to finish the Saladin and the Early TOS Kelvin,
Saladin
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/origins/saladin.jpg)
Early TOS Kelvin - Yes she has an NX reg and yes the late TOS one has NCC
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/origins/etosk1.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/origins/etosk2.jpg)
*just a side note* - I had increased the size of the deflector dish since rendering out these pictures
Also amended my work list on front page
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:bow: as always! This will whet your TOS appetites
(http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss74/mckinneyc_2009/OutoftheFlyingPan_zps914f3414.jpg) (http://s563.photobucket.com/user/mckinneyc_2009/media/OutoftheFlyingPan_zps914f3414.jpg.html)
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Can never get enough of TOS. It's a beautiful aesthetic and you do it great Justice Phoenix.
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Ok started to try and teach McKinneyc how to model and wanted to start him off with the same first model i ever did that i was happy with, BUT alas his computer just couldn't keep up :evil: :banghead: :hithead: but he wanted to watch how i built it so i have continued, and here i show off my first part of my Romulan Bird Of Prey build.
Top Fwd View
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1385133_537824126301851_222481087_n.jpg)
Bottom Aft View
(https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1379326_537824129635184_320144102_n.jpg)
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You nearly killed my poor computer! :cry:
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Cleared off-topic comments. - DT
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Added the Tail Fin and Part of the Front Weapons pod, im aware of the mesh errors i'll be getting them sorted tomorrow
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1398334_537955722955358_193054955_o.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1397344_537955719622025_248956330_o.jpg)
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Can't wait to recreate Balance of Terror with this and Wiley's Connie :P
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Can't wait to recreate Balance of Terror with this and Wiley's Connie :P
:eek :evil: you're in the shit now!
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It's good to have another Romulan BOP. I wonder how long it has been since we last saw a Romulan BOP (or Vas Hatham-class or V8-class how she's non-canonically called) for Bridge Commander. :)
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Ok done the Nacelles, (thinking of redoing them at this time) added the Aft trop and the Pylons *wings*,
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/wip/rbop/bop1.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/wip/rbop/bop2.jpg)
at present she is made up of 3 parts, *When finished she will remain at 2 parts due to animation* the 3 parts are as follows
BOP HULL - Includes all shuttle bays, Cargo Bays, Fwd and Aft Weapon Pods main hull and Wings,
Nacelle
Bussard
Poly count wise she is sitting most comfortably at 2732 Polys So, with such a low count, i want to hit 10k at most and add the sensor pods and possibly windows to boot :D
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Looking amazing as always :bow:
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yep incredible says it all :)
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Great work nix!
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Nice work! :thumbsup:
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Very good bro! :dance
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not even 3k polies? good heavens, that's got to be lower than the one they use in STO.. and yet it looks so good! nice work :)
Btw, you mentioned animation..what's animating on this puppy?
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Bussards my man
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Looks great!!
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ok thank you to everyone for the kind words, really means a lot to me. i know this is like the 3rd time i've built this ship, but neither of the first two releases made to to bc, and personally, THANK GOD. this kicks their ass's. im also including a lot more detail. i've decide to actually model the sensor nodes in, and here is the start of that.
Enjoy
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/1008814_539364459481151_507304243_o.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1398193_539364412814489_854014895_o.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1403118_539364409481156_277711957_o.jpg)
tomorrow i will finish off the weapons pod, and rebuild the Nacelles. then it'll be onto the worst part, adding the sensor nodes to the bridge section :( OH NO!! lol - P.S I am well aware i am missing 2 fwd nodes but they will be added later, going to make them and place them later :D
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Good work so far! The saucer rim looks like it could use some additional polies, it's currently looking a bit segmented.
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This is amazing work so far! I very excited for the Romulan BOP. Here is a well deserved cookie.
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Good work so far! The saucer rim looks like it could use some additional polies, it's currently looking a bit segmented.
I plan on doing it if i can find the cleanest way to do it :D
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Good work so far! The saucer rim looks like it could use some additional polies, it's currently looking a bit segmented.
I told him that the other day :funny
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I told him that the other day :funny
Shut-up you!! :lostit:
Well I've finished the Sensor Nodes, and the weapons pod. im still going to redo the nacelles but other than that she is done. BUT i do think i want to build the windows in while she's still quite low on the poly count, she is sitting at 9.691 Polys (tris)
Weapons Pod
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1040594_539536066130657_1437191412_o.jpg)
Aft View with all sensor Nodes
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1398932_539535969464000_1648585186_o.jpg)
Fwd View with all sensor nodes
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1402815_539536006130663_1110356383_o.jpg)
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See? That wasn't so hard. Very nice work!
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yes awesome
id say model in the widows but then we all know about me and modelling windows lol
cookie for another awesome ship
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WHAT windows?
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And don't forget the start button. :p
Looks great. Have a cookie.
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WHAT windows?
the ones around the front and sides!!
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double post :P - finished the nacelles and my other bits needed fixing, now i only need to do the windows
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:doh: :( :eek Damn tripple Post, Well I'm Finally finished, Now onto Mapping and textures, thanks to baz and wiley for help explaining ways to do the Sensor Nodes and Windows, shes a little high on the count, BUT worth it!
she is sitting at 14,851 Polys, but i will try and clean that up a little bit
Front Top
(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1381752_540600789357518_1393586747_n.jpg)
Aft Top
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1384180_540600782690852_1216090299_n.jpg)
Showing windows and weapon pod
(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/1381752_540600812690849_870495759_n.jpg)
how about some Wire Frame shots?
Front Top Wire Frame
(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/994390_540603599357237_1549165513_n.jpg)
Front Bottom Wire Frame
(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1380706_540603589357238_284703759_n.jpg)
Aft View Wire frame
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1393478_540603569357240_430266054_n.jpg)
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Looking good.
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Nice work! I think I have an idea for a render.
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Looks ace!!
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Nice work! I think I have an idea for a render.
i'll send it to you as soon as it goes out for beta ;)
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Very Nice, are you sure your not a romulan :funny
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Very Nice, are you sure your not a romulan :funny
was there ever any doubt?
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You've come a long way since the ones you sent to me. :thumbsup:
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Looks great !
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By far the best Rommie BoP model i've seen done for a trek game.
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You've come a long way since the ones you sent to me. :thumbsup:
Thanks man, i have improved a fair bit,
Looks great !
Cheers man its appreciated
By far the best Rommie BoP model i've seen done for a trek game.
I'd love that to be true, at least we know its better than STO's one :D lolz
and on that note she is 80% mapped, and will end up being between 2-3 maps at the moment im going with 3, body / nacelle / buzzard (animation)
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Looking great as usual Nix. :D
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It will certainly be lots of fun recreating
"The Enemy Below" "Balance of Terror" with this beauty. :)
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Ok she is basically finished, just need to do the bussards Enjoy
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/901414_517388778357586_1322645642_o.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1398569_517388785024252_1690954367_o.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/858934_517388795024251_824466216_o.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1398613_517388861690911_1489077792_o.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1403361_517388881690909_2132501990_o.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1397624_517388878357576_9027697_o.jpg)
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Looks good as usual
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Looks good as usual
Looks real good if you ask me!
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Looks fake good if you ask me. :p
Great work, Phoenix.
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Such a beauty! Splendid work as always.
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What do you guys think about the Bussards? opinions suggestions?? any help would be hot :hithead: :banghead:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/857975_553354841415446_1265288983_o.jpg)
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They look good, apart from the black lines running the length of the nacelles.
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Shadow tom! its a shadow :P
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So, you are going for a more JJ-verse like look?
It looks good, but I'm not sure if i like it.
How about reducing the number of shovels/scoops ( -what are those things called ?) and giving the whole bussard a more "gaseous" apperence?
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How about reducing the number of shovels/scoops ( -what are those things called ?) and giving the whole bussard a more "gaseous" apperence?
Wouldn't fit with TOS aesthetics.
They are very sharp and specific shadows. :p I think the pale blue works on this ship better than a green would.
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I did not mean green gas; Blue definitely is the right colour.
What i mean is less edgy structures, more along the lines of those oily looking bits in-between the scoops.
I don't know how to phrase that in english, but i imagine the bussards looking like they are filled with some sort of vapour.
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I did not mean green gas; Blue definitely is the right colour.
What i mean is less edgy structures, more along the lines of those oily looking bits in-between the scoops.
I don't know how to phrase that in english, but i imagine the bussards looking like they are filled with some sort of vapour.
ok i have just learned the colour should be off white, a warm off white from doug drexler, just waiting for him to tell me if its turbine or gas :D
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It's gas when the Rommies eat too many baked beans, turbine if not.
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This is what I've been waiting for! :D BALANCE OF TERROR BABY! :yay: I love it!
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This is what I've been waiting for! :D BALANCE OF TERROR BABY! :yay: I love it!
Thank you Rifleman, i'd love to see that using my connie too if u did :D
as for am i doing jj look...NOT A CHANCE
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Some idiot already did a JJverse one :idk:
http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/JJ_verse_Romulan_BOP;114617
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Some idiot already did a JJverse one :idk:
http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/JJ_verse_Romulan_BOP;114617
thats not too bad actually baz, own design or find it somewhere?
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My design, Shadow knight designed the belly bird and I enhanced it
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I think it's a scratch one of his. hard to hit, I'll tell ya.
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My design, Shadow knight designed the belly bird and I enhanced it
I tell ya, proudest day ever when something that I designed made it into a mod for this game.
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Update on the A-wing
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1497641_560336494050614_159659879_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1424575_560336510717279_131672937_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/1475793_560336484050615_20263786_n.jpg)
Bird of Prey is nearly finished, just sorting out the animation on the nacelles and i'm done
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sexy lil bugger :P cookie!
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im not well versed in the starwars stuff but after looking on google this looks great :)
cookie away!
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Can't do any better than those twin J77 Horizon engines.
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My best memory of an A-Wing in any game was in the beginning of Mysteries of the Sith where you can drop one on a group of Storm Troopers.
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Have a cookie bro! It?s looking excellent! :bow:
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Looks spot on :) glad to see more SW ships in works :) have a cookie !
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Me and Baz are going to knock most of them out, he's done X-Wing and B-wing i'm doing A-wing, and either Tie-Interceptor or Y-Wing next :D
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Great job nix!
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If you're doing the Y-wing, will it be the rebel Y-wing from the movies or will it be along the lines of the Y-wings in the clone wars series?
EDIT
This is an image of the clone wars Y-wing (http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081014214725/starwars/images/6/6f/BTL-B_multiview.jpg).
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You guys are doing these ships justice! Good to see new Star Wars mods, awesome work!
Thank you! :thumbsup:
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At the moment only ships from Episodes 4, 5 and 6.
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If you're doing the Y-wing, will it be the rebel Y-wing from the movies or will it be along the lines of the Y-wings in the clone wars series?
EDIT
This is an image of the clone wars Y-wing (http://static4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081014214725/starwars/images/6/6f/BTL-B_multiview.jpg).
Fun fact, the behind the scenes stuff on the Y-Wing says that the ones used by the Alliance are stripped down for easier maintenance, so the ones in the Clone Wars are how a Y-Wing would have looked fresh off the assembly line.
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Shes finally finished onto textures then to baz for chair and pilot
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/904669_566978710053059_820598932_o.jpg)
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Well done dude!
Cookie
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Looking sharp there dude.
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Looks great!!
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Somewhere around the year 2000, Star Trek Klingon Academy was released by Interplay for the P.C, Well this game got me hooked and i started to learn a program called Lightwave *Which i have no clue at now :D* and i wanted to break the competition by bringing in a model that would be better than anyone had hoped or wanted, issue is i didnt have a clue what i was doing and was learning how to model on the fly, Well unfortunately, my master plan never saw fruition she was never finished. *go on say it, like most of my work!! lol* Well here she is, my Big project back just shortly after the year 2000, trying to get my name out there - it worked, i was noticed, but didn't finish my baby :(
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/ds9/ds1.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/ds9/ds2.jpg)
Now to cut a long story short, I have a MASSIVE issue with my self, Hate most things about me *except my eyes* and really don't have much faith in much of my work, BUT I try, and i enjoy doing it *when my brain wants to work and let me do what i want it too*
While i was in bed watching Deep Space Nine a few days ago with my Fiancee, i said to her,
"You know what, I'd love to build that!"
To which she replied
"Well do it then!"
we had a small debate about the fact I'm not good enough and would be no way able to pull that off, think my exact words were "Not in a month of Sundays. lol!"
she copped the hump with me for doing my normal self loathing thing and went to sleep, I got up and decided i was going to get back to work on my Armada 3 Project and i got thinking
"You know what Nix, I'm getting sick of all the I don't know, I can't do it, it will be crap, no one will like it attitude!"
"What is the one thing you've always wanted to build and or finish? Well get your Fat ass in gear and damn well do it, no matter what, don't give in and don't moan, Just try until u can't try no more!!"
So I did, and well keeping in mind things have changed and you can use much more detail in your work, this is my current build as of 3:49am this morning - This will take me a while to do but i will do it, i have mentioned that i want to build this to baz, as to not step on a friends toes, and he has given me his blessing, I really hope you lot like her
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/ds9/ds9a.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/ds9/ds9b.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/ds9/ds9c.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/ds9/ds9d.jpg)
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Lookin damn good so far! I like the attention to detail, and from memory, it looks spot on. Cookie inbound! :yay:
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Just one statement to declare:
Nix, you're definitely good enough.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year brother :thumbsup:
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Go for it. If you want any of my low poly ships from my space dock your welcome to them to enhance the look.
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I agree with your gf. Shut the hell up about the part "i can't " or "i'm not good blabla". Dude, you created some damn HD material that even could be used in the TNG bluray season packs.
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Phoenix make sure the habitat ring and docking ring are at the correct heights, many forget the docking ring is lower and pylons rise up to the central structure.
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Trust me, Tobias Richter was Nice enough to send me a STUPIDLY high quality Orthos of his ds9, so i have the best of the best to work with :D
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Double post (hope you don't mind) Added the Docking ring and thrusters, though im sure im not 100% happy with it and will probably end up re-doing it later :dontcare:
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/ds9/ds9e.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/ds9/ds9f.jpg)
And just for Saquist, there you go, perfect view to show you i'm not going to make such a noobie mistake, i can't believe anyone would be so foolish *Looks at Baz*
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/ds9/ds9g.jpg)
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Looking so good!
Shame I haven't been around much to motivate your ass into finishing the runabouts to go with this big beauty :P
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Looks damn fine Phoenix and as you heard from me many times you are ridiculously good at modeling and along with baz and wc and DJ and all the rest of you other guys that model, you have inspired me to try harder on my ships.
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with baz and wc and DJ and all the rest of you other guys that model, you have inspired me to try harder on my ships.
As I always say--- practice, practice, practice. TNG ships are the most difficult, TOS is easy. Just keep building. I have maybe 100+ meshes built in various stages of construction.
Hobbs, you have a ship for BC, though it may not be your best, YOU HAVE BUILT A 3D SHIP FROM SCRATCH AND PUT IT INTO A GAME. That is a feat that not many people are able to achieve.
Just keep at it!
Phoenix, I love the DS9 station. :thumbsup:
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You're off to an awesome start. Keep at it buddy!
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Awesome start! Keep digging! :thumbsup:
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(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/ds9/keepingitquite.jpg)
Look what i've been keeping quiet,
i've finished my Bug :D
and i will finish my runabout i promise, Ds9 pack anyone??
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Oooh that would be lovely. With everything nice and neatly scaled. I can see some pretty fantastic wallpapers being made within the next year :)
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Oooh that would be lovely. With everything nice and neatly scaled. I can see some pretty fantastic wallpapers being made within the next year :)
i'll make 1 promise,all my ships from ds9 i build, will all be in scale with each other, even if i am wrong with other things, but will try and collaborate with Baz and Wiley to get the best i can
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If you finish those I'll love you forever :D
There is one problem with scale in DS9. The station, bug and Defiant varied from episode to episode. Only thing to have a size set in stone was the runabout I believe
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If you finish those I'll love you forever :D
There is one problem with scale in DS9. The station, bug and Defiant varied from episode to episode. Only thing to have a size set in stone was the runabout I believe
While the scaling of the station and Defiant were somewhat "in flux" depending on the episode, what matters most is getting a scale that Phoenix is most comfortable with between the station, starships and shuttlecraft. I'm sure Phoenix will do fine :)
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While the scaling of the station and Defiant were somewhat "in flux" depending on the episode, what matters most is getting a scale that Phoenix is most comfortable with between the station, starships and shuttlecraft. I'm sure Phoenix will do fine :)
How's this for scale??
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/ds9/lol.jpg)
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First thing that sprung to mind was Father Ted. Our American friends won't get it but the scene where Ted is explaining to Dougal about the cows close and far away springs to mind.
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First thing that sprung to mind was Father Ted. Our American friends won't get it but the scene where Ted is explaining to Dougal about the cows close and far away springs to mind.
+1
Okay, one last time (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh5kZ4uIUC0)
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Trust me, Tobias Richter was Nice enough to send me a STUPIDLY high quality Orthos of his ds9, so i have the best of the best to work with :D
Not to nitpick, but it's what Trekkies do best. Aren't the three antennae things sticking out below Ops supposed to be at a slight angle towards Ops?
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*Shoots every brit a dirty look*
what the bloody hell, guys, not all entertainment is one way FROM Hollywood. the Who thread ALONE proves that. I'm still kicking myself for missing the 50th special!
Even MENTIONING Father Ted guarantees a laugh (and now I gotta find out if I can find that sequence, but knowing Dougal...)
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Well got back to ds9 today, and though i am not happy with the docking ring, she is really starting to come along, i've really surprised myself with this, but i am very very happy, even if i know she isnt perfect
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/ds9/ds9h.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/ds9/ds9i.jpg)
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She is looking sweet! Although..... Only joking! :D
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I'm hoping we can get some serious textures on these stations.
I like what Baz did on the Fed Starbase but the textures are lacking.
DS9 isn't as big but it seems just as detailed.
I know these are big projects but considering some of the textures the ships have gotten I'd like to see an all or nothing of the two stations that have made Trek History.
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Not sure I appreciate the lacking comment. Ships are better as we can run 2048 textures on them. If you want that level on a station your looking 4096 up and with this engine you can forget any other detailed objects in there. We are working within the confines of a decade old system. Sorry nix about the hijack rant.
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I know these are big projects but considering some of the textures the ships have gotten I'd like to see an all or nothing of the two stations that have made Trek History.
In the words of Voyager's computer: "Make it yourself." :)
Baz is indeed correct. The game is over 10 years old now, and to be frank, it's rather amazing the kind of work that is still being achieved on such an old system. Even if ships and stations won't get every minuscule detail added to them, the ships and stations modelled/textured today are leaps and bounds above the stock ships and stations. If you want even higher detail on ships and stations, find a different game.
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Not sure I appreciate the lacking comment. Ships are better as we can run 2048 textures on them. If you want that level on a station your looking 4096 up and with this engine you can forget any other detailed objects in there. We are working within the confines of a decade old system. Sorry nix about the hijack rant.
no feel free
Saquist, that was rude man, its really hard to get them as good as we do so please remember that
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My respectful apologies Baz and Phoenix, I meant no offense.
Please forgive my ignorance.
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Considering the fact that ds9 is, as far as I'm concerned, not accurate during the 7 year run there's alway room for personalised feel and look. Looks dam nice so far Phoenix. Colour me impressed so far.
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In the words of Voyager's computer: "Make it yourself." :)
Baz is indeed correct. The game is over 10 years old now, and to be frank, it's rather amazing the kind of work that is still being achieved on such an old system. Even if ships and stations won't get every minuscule detail added to them, the ships and stations modelled/textured today are leaps and bounds above the stock ships and stations. If you want even higher detail on ships and stations, find a different game.
Hard to believe it's that old...and some peeps with good enough systems can churn out screenshots that make me question whether it's from an episode or movie.
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I will just do the best i can guys, thats all i can say, But on that note as of Tuesday next week i will not be online much if even at all until the 25/26th of Feb, moving house and getting an new internet installed over there. So when i get back i should have a nice few ships for you, mainly
Awing
Kelvin early Tos
Kelvin Late Tos
Saratoga
Saladin
WIPS
Runabout
DS9
Constellation
Hope to see you all soon!
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Safe move Nix!
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We shall await your glorious return!
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good luck on the move
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Good luck on the move and with your future neighbours too! :)
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Good luck with the move.
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Awesome work, so far, Phoenix. I do see what you mean about the docking ring, though - the underside, right?
Thanks for bringing KA back to my consciousness. I still say that that game - while flawed, limited, and massively outdated now - is a far more Trek than any other Starship sim yet released - delve into the code, and it still feels like reading a Starfleet tech manual. Even these days, BC feels skin-deep by comparison. Hopefully Excalibur will recapture that sense.
Given the limitations of the KA engine, that old DS9 model you made looks pretty sweet!
I hope your move proceeds without a hitch.
Baz, I commend you for mentioning Father Ted, and I commend KCS for being (presumably) an American with a correct sense of humour. I've never met an American who knew of the show.
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I know how you feel pheonix. lol I've rebuilt my DS9 model about 4 times now and am still retexturing the beast. You model does look good. Don't forget the indents on the underside of the outer docking ring. I'm only working with a bunch of screenshots and 1 sideway view. Wish you luck. :)
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OOOoo! A New DS9! Its looking good! Phoenix, was your Romulan Bird of Prey released?
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Not yet got no internet. Ill keep playing with ds9 but codallis one will probably be ten times better than mine
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No way man, been working on this one too long. And, I've only got a couple of actual released models. lol Still kinda a beginner...advanced beginner, something like that. lol
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Star Trek Online was down so I decided to drop in and see what's being going on in this community. Phoenix, I really enjoyed watching your Romulan Bird of Prey come to life. Nicely done!
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Star Trek Online was down so I decided to drop in and see what's being going on in this community. Phoenix, I really enjoyed watching your Romulan Bird of Prey come to life. Nicely done!
Shes finished, i'm just waiting for the 25th of Feb for my real internet to be installed and then i will upload her :D
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Last thing Tiq Hp'ed for me, shes almost finished for release
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t31.0-8/1273013_532685093482421_187163048_o.jpg)
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A fine ship she is... and HP'ed by the best of us.
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One of the models i have ready to hp as soon as i can find a willing victim, of course this one has been refined and had poly count lowered somewhat,
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t31.0-8/10368953_645063358911260_5349498540391364046_o.jpg)
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the reg isn't visible. is it a Saladin destrlyer, or the Apollo scout?
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Oooh I'm feeling that Peregrine. Looks beautiful
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My only suggestion about the Peregrine is that you should make the winodow more of a black and make specular just like the color we see in this picture (it would be a cool detail)
other than that it's ace ! :)
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I love the panel texture detailing. You could "jewel" the cockpit a bit, have one corner brighter than the others?
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My only suggestion about the Peregrine is that you should make the winodow more of a black and make specular just like the color we see in this picture (it would be a cool detail)
other than that it's ace ! :)
Agreed. Outstanding work man!
Glad to have BCC back!!
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the reason the windows are as they are atm, is this is stright from star trek armada 3, and it has reflective surfaces so that is why, of course in bc that wouldn't work/happen :(
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Would Anyone want this in BC? - Also same question with my Peregrine Fighter, And my new station im working on right now? - also with Tiq's passing and Mr Mckinney being far to busy with real life work i have No hard pointers anymore, and i really don't have the time or the brain energy to learn, is there anyone that would want to help out? i still have most of the rest of my Origins TOS ships to get released and finished
anywho, here is my Station, its a Cardassian Listening post / Culture Station
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t31.0-8/10428366_665230223561240_4014703465915810265_o.jpg)
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Would Anyone want this in BC?
Are you kidding? Of course!
Hp'ing could be a problem though. If no one else volunteers, I guess I could try to do it. But the next phase with enough free time for me to actually do so is mid august...
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I think Hobbs HP's
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Now that is pure beauty. Hope it gets released.
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Let me think.... AH, YEAH!!!
Great work dude!
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HELL YEAH!!
Awesome work as always!
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I used to HP every single ship i ported to BC from SFC / Mass Effect ... although I'm not gettig enough free time anymore ... I could help tho
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More than happy to HP.
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pheonix have you released this station for another game? which game? or was that image a 3d render?
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Star Trek Armada 3 my man
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wow i've never checked out that project until now, for being a strategy game those ships are just so.... detailed! wow!
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The game is amazing, just wish (personal opinion only) that we could develop a single player campain
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If I didn't say so before
those models are looking good
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Better than good, great!
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Thanks guys, when i get some time, i'll catch up with a couple of you that are offering to help and we're have a chat
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Can't wait for this to be released. There's never enough stations
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Ok so for my work on Armada 3, we have 2 more Cardassian Stations.
Civilian Research Station
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/10481656_683917385025857_8848750401621371230_o.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t31.0-8/10560491_683917375025858_8516589024272430385_o.jpg)
Military Research Station
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/1529692_683917368359192_3303532993956086108_o.jpg)
(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/10514225_683917405025855_3573123152411640146_o.jpg)
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That's a very unique and futuristic concept.
Post Dom War. I like it.
When will this baby be available for BC. I'm dying to try them out.
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Someone has to catch me and get me to learn how to play that game... xD
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Don't worry i can't play for shit nebula,
They are not based after dominion war Nxadam, but same time/before
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Nevertheless, interesting concepts. I love how it was integrated into the Terok Nor design.
Any history or facts into these babies. If my memory serves me well, Terok Nor isn't really a Starbase but more of a ore refinement base/trading outpost. Are these the same or would you consider it more a strategic base of operations?
Adam
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Any history or facts into these babies. If my memory serves me well, Terok Nor isn't really a Starbase but more of a ore refinement base/trading outpost. Are these the same or would you consider it more a strategic base of operations?
If they are anything like their predecessors then they are just as the name says research stations. Scroll down-> http://gaming.trekcore.com/armada2/ships-cardassian.html
Military Research Center
Advanced Research Station
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Nice!
Cool designs.
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Ok so for my work on Armada 3, we have 2 more Cardassian Stations.
Civilian Research Station
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/10481656_683917385025857_8848750401621371230_o.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t31.0-8/10560491_683917375025858_8516589024272430385_o.jpg)
Looks cool, but makes me remember the cylon basestar. :)
Military Research Station
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/1529692_683917368359192_3303532993956086108_o.jpg
https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/10514225_683917405025855_3573123152411640146_o.jpg
I see the links for this one, but I can?t see the images...
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Starship,
Terok Nor is 41 years old by the end of the Prime Timeline.
Maybe advance the Terok Nor components into the late 24th century but keeping familar Cardassian Architecture cues.
Terok Nor was likely a minimalist design. (Like our International Space Station) Slave labor constructed it at least in part.
-The Exposed Fusion Core was likely just for the sake of a non strategic Ore Processing Center. It probably has a more protective covering on stations constructed by the military.
-Perhaps make the Rings Wider and more substantial
The Shipyards seen in some episodes is a good example or this bellow that never was.
Another Cardassian Shipyard by John Eaves
http://ottens.co.uk/forgottentrek/the-cardassian-shipyard-that-wasnt/
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Awesome design by John Eaves. Thanks for sharing the site.
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Wiley has already built that for our STA3 Mod we are building for Sins or a solar empire rebellion
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Please post some pics/screenshots of Wiley's rendition of John Eaves base. If love to see the results.
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Heres one: http://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/22/21329/Eaves.jpg
Another: http://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/22/21329/Eaves2.jpg
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The Nor design is at least somewhat standardized, considering there's also Empok Nor which is very similar as far as we know.
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It wasn't until very, very recently that I noticed DS9 and other Cardassian stations were grey, not Brown like their ships.
I have no idea why I never noticed.
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(http://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/22/21329/ScreenShot_827.jpg) - these will go nicely against my Cardies thanks Conner for doing a sexy job on my raider!
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(http://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/22/21329/ScreenShot_827.jpg) - these will go nicely against my Cardies thanks Conner for doing a sexy job on my raider!
Max finished it off in the end. I couldnae did it.
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Oh boy. That was a tease. We need these in BC. It's beautiful.
Great job on your mods guys. Excellent work.
Adam
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Very, very nice!
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And I would like to be in command of one of these super new cardassian stations! Really nice work, Cardassian architecture is one of the best examples of good design in the ST Universe. On Empok Nor, it had minor internal differances but outside it probably was the same. Their have been three Nor Class Stations Terok, Empok and in BC Litvok Nor.
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There is actually a difference on the exterior of Empok Nor as well, on the inner habitat ring there are these weird domes I think they are supposed to be added shield generators of sorts.
(http://ds9.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/5x24/empoknor_165.jpg)
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i do want to get them into bc as said just need a hp'er - and remember what how to get them scripted, my fibro fog is the worse its ever been atm
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Heres one: http://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/22/21329/Eaves.jpg
Another: http://media.moddb.com/images/mods/1/22/21329/Eaves2.jpg
Awestruck
That is a quality reproduction.
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Thank you.
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Looking good fellas.
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Anyone intrested in helping me finish (hp/script) my Origins models and all my Cardassian Stations etc
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Me
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ive not kept upto date with your skills hobbs, without sounding rude so sorry if i do, are you 100% upto the task?
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Hobbs is a legitimate HPer Ive seen his work. He has many files on BC.FF
BTW, I am looking for Starbases/Shipyards for all races including minor races too for the upcoming KM. I think its time people get to playing around with Construct a bit more.
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If you need additional help with HPs, PM me, back in my modding days, TiqHud gave me a lot of tips how to properly make hardpoints.
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If you need additional help with HPs, PM me, back in my modding days, TiqHud gave me a lot of tips how to properly make hardpoints.
same here but by all means go with a better hper, there must be some around here.
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Nowadays everyone who knows how not to crash MPE is good hardpointer ;) considering how few of us are still here, my guess is, we're all "good" HPers :D
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Going to have to go through them, i've got a fair few
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Hey guys, I won't say who it was as i'm not an ass, but had a pm the other day asking what i was doing etc and why i've not been around, well since it's nearly 4 years i suppose i should tell you.
I have been diagnosed with a few alements that have been giving me hell. i am now regestered disabled and one of the main conditions is that i suffer from memory loss. i have tried and tried and tried to get back into max so i can build more/new hell finish shits that i never got done. so all of you that where waiting on stuff i am very sorry. i've poked around here a couple of times considering what to say, or if i should even say anything (worried that i might get a pitty shower, and i'm honestly not after that)
I don't get out much, mostly housebound. When i do, i like to fly FPV Free stlye Drones (which i can only do anyway on a good day) some days i can't walk or even talk (massive sluring) and i got fed up with having to put on a brave face for many people i thought where my friend (who quickly turned their back when i didnt want to come out to play any more)
ALl i do now i spend time with the fiancee (still with anita yes) and my child Tessa (who was just about to be born when i dissapeared) so yes, she's turning 4 (WTF) - BUT 4 F**King years I really am sorry guys :(
In my spare time at home i still paint and run a little section of facebook called Asylum brushworks - Yer i kept the asylum gig going :P
https://www.facebook.com/aslyumbrushworks/?ref=br_rs (https://www.facebook.com/aslyumbrushworks/?ref=br_rs) Asylums facebook Page
https://www.facebook.com/groups/AsylumBrushworksHelpergroup/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/AsylumBrushworksHelpergroup/) Asylums public group
and here is the Last video from Freestyling i put up
again sorry its been so long, i hope most of you are well.
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No need to Apologize for anything. Everyone has real life issues that they have to deal with every single day, so it’s totally understandable. Here’s to hoping that your health gets better soon! And take your time!
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being hit that heavy with medical probs explains everything. yipes.
I'm actually jelly you get to play with drones. the regs here say you can't have one within 5 miles of an airport.
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lol
I'm actually jelly you get to play with drones. the regs here say you can't have one within 5 miles of an airport.
then go 5 miles away from it and fly :P
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so good to see ya again, man!! :) :hi:
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:hi: im still lurking
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so good to see ya again, man!! :) :hi:
thanks jimmy
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oh man Phoenix. I hope your get better soon. You used to make some awesome BC Ships, hell even up there with Gmunoz (Who is still AWOL).
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Nix, you are tough as nails brother. Stay strong.
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Can't seem to post as my self " Phoenix Bondi " but i had a comment on youtube on one of my videos, so i decided to see what it was - i know alot of you know im very ill now but frack me 10 years ago and i dont remember making this video at all - i bearly remember nifskope and just bah lost for words. it was an interesting watch and still hate my voice but wow time really flies, i hope you are all well guys.
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Can't seem to post as my self " Phoenix Bondi " but i had a comment on youtube on one of my videos, so i decided to see what it was - i know alot of you know im very ill now but frack me 10 years ago and i dont remember making this video at all - i bearly remember nifskope and just bah lost for words. it was an interesting watch and still hate my voice but wow time really flies, i hope you are all well guys.
Ah, you're the one who a kid on BCC discord triggered by exploring nif animations on youtube. Welcome back, I hope you are back to some degree.
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Can't seem to post as my self " Phoenix Bondi " but i had a comment on youtube on one of my videos, so i decided to see what it was - i know alot of you know im very ill now but frack me 10 years ago and i dont remember making this video at all - i bearly remember nifskope and just bah lost for words. it was an interesting watch and still hate my voice but wow time really flies, i hope you are all well guys.
I fixed your username so it displays how you would like..
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There are 2 BC Discord servers you should join!
This one is BCC's Server where veteran modders that have been in BC for many years are
https://discord.gg/nJAx4HNQ2G
And this Server is where new modders are, a new generation
https://discord.gg/Tp8jbcmB
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I can't join either. Would love to share me good ole sound experience to you old guys again as I have since 2016, and new guns alike too.
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I can't join either. Would love to share me good ole sound experience to you old guys again as I have since 2016, and new guns alike too.
Just created this link, it does not expire and has unlimited use:
https://discord.gg/nJAx4HNQ2G
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Hey there MrSFX! I sent ya a PM :wink: :)
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I'm having a weird discord issue too. The desktop app stopped working on my PC and no mater what I do I can't get it to reinstall correctly and I'm not getting an error messages to track down the problem with. Discord might just be jerking them around like it seams to be doing me since I can't even get a support bot to talk too for help.
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I'm having a weird discord issue too. The desktop app stopped working on my PC and no mater what I do I can't get it to reinstall correctly and I'm not getting an error messages to track down the problem with. Discord might just be jerking them around like it seams to be doing me since I can't even get a support bot to talk too for help.
I'll send ya a PM, we'll get it sorted 🙂
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I'll send ya a PM, we'll get it sorted 🙂
His discord application is broken. I highly doubt you can provide support for third party app in that regard.
To last few posters: This is also going off topic, recommend opening a new thread for these types of discussions.
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Ah, you're the one who a kid on BCC discord triggered by exploring nif animations on youtube. Welcome back, I hope you are back to some degree.
lol what do you mean by triggered lol
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lol what do you mean by triggered lol
Triggered to post here on the forums. What did you think I meant?