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Recreational Forums => Art Forum => Topic started by: Johnnymuffintop on August 01, 2009, 07:18:09 PM
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Well, it's just a redesigned DY 100, but still.
Anyway, this is currently a "proof of concept" using Flanker's artwork from Scifi-meshes.com so most of the details are from his ships, my final version will be more more unified.
(http://fc05.deviantart.com/fs47/f/2009/213/9/a/Revised_Botany_Bay_Concept_by_JohnnyMuffintop.png)
http://johnnymuffintop.deviantart.com/art/Revised-Botany-Bay-Concept-131753205 (http://johnnymuffintop.deviantart.com/art/Revised-Botany-Bay-Concept-131753205)
She's outfitted with 3 light plasma cannons, mostly used for deflecting spacebound material.
I was trying a sort of ENT/Halo/Battlestar feel, what do you guys think?
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A little too military for a civilian transport ship.
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3 light plasma cannons is hardly "too military" tbh. I actually like this redesign. Looks more detailed than the TOS version, but definitely more primative than the NX-01. Cookie for you :)
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Sorry, I should been more specific. I wasn't referring to the armament (that's actually really good. :)) No, I meant the overall design reflects are more military style as opposed to something more streamlined, clean, and civilian.
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Sorry, I should been more specific. I wasn't referring to the armament (that's actually really good. :)) No, I meant the overall design reflects are more military style as opposed to something more streamlined, clean, and civilian.
this was of course Khan's ship, remember the Dictator of , OH 1/3 of the world. I toooo kind'a like it, but we all have different likes and dislikes.
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Exactly as Tiqhud said. Khan was after all in control of atleast 1/3rd of the planet. The original Botany Bay (which was a "sleeper ship") should've been more militaristic to begin with, given that it was transporting Khan and a group of his fellow superhumans.
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Well, IMO, she would have been used by everybody, civilian or otherwise. She was also built to be able to take glancing hits from asteroids.
Unlike the original version, I doubt she would have been built on Earth and sent up with 4-6 rocket boosters. (Doesn't seem practical to me)
With that in mind, I figured she could be a bit bigger than the classic one since they don't have to deal with getting into Earth orbit, her approximate length is 114 meters from the top of her front antennae to her stern. Also, I was trying to design something I thought could look good against the JJPrise so she kinda HAD to be at least a little bit bigger.
What I'm thinking, keep in mind, this is an alternate history:
During the early 1970's, when Richard Nixon was approached by NASA for funding, they proposed several concepts (which IRL happened, he said that they could only afford the space shuttle). Nixon chose 3 projects, a reliable/reusable low orbit spacecraft (the shuttle), a moderately large, low/mid orbit orbital station with small shuttles for higher orbit travel, and a small moon base which could be access from the station's shuttles.
During the 80's, Regan expanded the moon base to serve as his base of operations for the Star Wars program. During which factories were built to mine material from the moon.
After the Cold War, President Bush repurposed the lunar factories (by this time there are up to 20) to build exploration vehicles. Which eventually evolved into the DY series during the late 90's.
Her initial design was an all purpose craft, no variation between military and civilian variants, aside from slightly less powerful weapons.
Personnel for these vehicles would take a spaceplane (like the Spaceship One design on steroids) which would then dock at the newly created ISS, then take another transport to the fleet yards above Lunar 1 and board their ship.
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Neat story. What a creative mix of Star Trek and real life!
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I just realized why I went with the design layout ,which is a far venture from the official DY-100, was because I was going for something that resembled an extremely early predecessor of the Antares class. Of course, I still need to flesh it out more, but still.
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Ok, redid her... again... I tend to do that... anyway, I'll admit, the previous one was way too Halo/Alien styled. This one holds true to the shape of the classic DY as well as using elements from ENT ships; Arctic One from the episode "Regeneration" and the J class freighter and a hint of the ship that flies over before the NX in the intro for the engine.
(http://fc04.deviantart.com/fs50/f/2009/256/8/3/Newest_DY_100_redesign_by_JohnnyMuffintop.png)
http://johnnymuffintop.deviantart.com/art/Newest-DY-100-redesign-136963638 (http://johnnymuffintop.deviantart.com/art/Newest-DY-100-redesign-136963638)
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Much better
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Very nice job indeed!!
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That is awesome!
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sweeeeeeeeet stuff :)
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I love it! Perfect.
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I really like the first one, but the second one definately suits the time line .. its very cannon if it were ever to be seen.
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Much, much better!
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I like the first drawing, very nice concept mix between the original and the SS Conestoga :D
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Further update:
(http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs50/f/2009/267/7/f/Further_DY_100_Update_by_JohnnyMuffintop.png)
Top one is what she looks like will all cargo pods, middle one is to show what she looks like under the pods, and the bottom one is all our favorite DY-100, the Botany Bay.
Btw, the reason that the body goes really thin near the rear of where the pods are is so that crew members can open a hatch located on the thinner part and get into the cargo pod's secondary access port in case of emergency.
Still need to figure out where I'm gonna put the fuel pods on this one. I'm trying to keep 8 of them, but 6 could work too.
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I'm gonna turn this thread into my "General Art Dump" thread.
First off, something I whipped up in an attempt to get the working wormholes in Legacy textured like the STXI black holes.
Could be useful if someone wants to use it down the line:
(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/9953/blackholew.png)
Maybe it could be used as a Stargate Supergate retexture? Idk.
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Nice black hole, it could be easly used in DS9FX as one of the wormhole texture ;)
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Small preview of my JJ Romulan Bird of Prey.
(http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs51/f/2009/280/a/0/JJ_Romulan_BoP_body_WIP_by_JohnnyMuffintop.png)
http://johnnymuffintop.deviantart.com/art/JJ-Romulan-BoP-body-WIP-139570907
Still figuring out the shape of the wings and nacelles.
These are the colors I'm going with for the paint job.
(http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/2664/paintcolors.png)
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My idea for a JJ Excelsior. I'm thinking the secondary hull needs to be a bit smaller. And call me crazy, but I like the Ent-B bulge.
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That's pretty nice actually. You've managed to get the whole JJ-prise thing going on without compromising the distinctive features of the original design.
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Love it. I to, like the Ent-B 'bumps'.
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Yea, that design definitely gets my 'thumbs up'!
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whoa I just noticed this one, now we need baz or wiley to bring it into BC :P
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I'd rather see them finish their unfinished projects before starting umpteenth new one.. ;)
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the more the better :funny in wiley or baz case it won't change much as they have longer WIP list than my total mod release count :funny
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I'll be fleshing out my JJ fleet as more of the DVD extras start to come out. Preferably they'll be some shots of the Klingon ships in the deleted scenes, maybe better shots of the Vulcan ships that I can get some ideas for the Romulans. I still have no idea what I'm gonna do for the Romulan nacelles. I don't wanna do an ENT like one, nor a rehash of the TNG ones. Something like the new E, Kelvin styled, and Vulcan ones is what I think I might do.
Apparently. There is a short shot of the "Jellyfish" escaping the Narada where you can see a Rommie BoP. Looks like my sketches may be coming sooner than I thought.
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The effects for the Klingon ships were never finished. There may still be something there in an uncomplete phase though.
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Even some design sketches on the extras would help.
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Just wanted to refer you guys to some shots from the book Star Trek: The Art of the Film that have been taken over on Trekbbs: http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php?p=3532410 (http://trekbbs.com/showthread.php?p=3532410)
There's a GREAT shot of the Klingon ship over there, definitely worth checking out.
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Triple post, the shame!!! But, need some help with something.
I took a stab at making new bussard caps for Wiley's JJPrise V2, but since my computer is still down and all I can use is my sister's laptop, I need someone to try it out in-game.
Download and replace the file "bussard_glow.tga"
http://www.filefront.com/14862397/bussard_glow.tga (http://www.filefront.com/14862397/bussard_glow.tga)
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Well, it's been a while. Anywho, early this week the new Girl Talk album came out, and thanks to playing a LOT of Legacy with Girl Talk on repeat, whenever I hear it now, I think Trek.
So, as soon as I turned it on, I started to crank these out:
(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/337/d/8/upcoming_jjverse_ship_preview_by_johnnymuffintop-d33yc6c.png)
There's more to come, and I'm planning on having a full, multi-era ship building kit for those of whom are interested.
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Apparently. There is a short shot of the "Jellyfish" escaping the Narada where you can see a Rommie BoP. Looks like my sketches may be coming sooner than I thought.
there's also a vulcan lander in that scene, they're both the prime universe models, I think they're just easter eggs, not really meant to be JJverse versions of those ships, kinda like the R2-D2 in the wreckage scene.
here's the scene you were talking about:
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Yeah, I recall seeing those.
I've also been reworking my idea for a JJRommie BoP, much sleeker, more avian, taking a few cues from Atolm.
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there's also a vulcan lander in that scene, they're both the prime universe models, I think they're just easter eggs, not really meant to be JJverse versions of those ships, kinda like the R2-D2 in the wreckage scene.
here's the scene you were talking about:
wait what crash scene ??? R2D2 in Star Trek ?
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wait what crash scene ??? R2D2 in Star Trek ?
when they first warp into vulcan space... R2D2 can be seen for like 3 seconds flying past the viewscreen/window
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R2 cameo:
(http://www.wonderday.ca/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/r2d2startrek600.jpg)
Anywho, back to the designs, I need you guy's thoughts on where I'm going with a JJVerse Romulan BoP.
Thoughts?
(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/339/3/b/jjromulan_bird_of_prey_concept_by_johnnymuffintop-d349cb4.png)
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daaamn... I didn't notice it, most likely due to that shaky cam :P
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If someone can find a closeup of the impulse crystal, I think its R2-D2's Dome
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Like so?
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/gizmodo/2009/05/r2d2-a_01.jpg)
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Yea, too bad we cant get a look at the CGI Renders before ILM Worked on it... It does look like a R2-D2 Dome
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Anywho, back to the designs, I need you guy's thoughts on where I'm going with a JJVerse Romulan BoP.
Thoughts?
(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/339/3/b/jjromulan_bird_of_prey_concept_by_johnnymuffintop-d349cb4.png)
Opinions people?
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I want that as much as I want the JJ Daed.
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These would make good models. Maybe when I go to college...
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FarShot, trust me, I'd love to see these designs rendered, or even in combat in BC (as well as Legacy), I just need to get some rendering software and a computer that I can run it on. My current tower is running Ubuntu, made from recycled Gateway parts from like 10 years ago, with a Newegg shipped cardboard box. As soon as I upgrade, I'll be making these.
Also, TIME FOR THE NX CLASS!
(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2010/341/4/d/upcoming_jjverse_ship_preview_by_johnnymuffintop-d33yc6c.png)
She's essentially a cross between the Kelvin, the NX, the Poseidon class from Star Trek: Legacy, and a bit of TOS Enterprise in there.
I was REALLY aiming for a NX/TOS nacelle look. I figure, the older you get in the JJverse, the more looking like TOS you should get, though with some subtle tweaks to not exactly look TOS.
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I ran into an interesting tweak you might wanna try: someone over in the Armada modelers group took "kelvin" to mean the temperature scale and made a TNG update dubbed "Fahrenheit" I was thinking a TMP/Era X variant (inevitably named "celcius"). besides, I'd like to see your take on JJTMP.
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I do in fact have some sketches for some JJTMP era ships. Just need to get to making them.
Just a hint as to what the direct is I'm taking it... imagine the JJTMP Enterprise with nacelles based on General Grievious ship's engines (since both were designed by Ryan Church I figured it be a decent thing to take inspiration from).
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unfortunately, I never got to watch Ep 3/RoS. I'll have to go look it up
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Here you go. http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Belbullab-22_starfighter
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thanks, LMM...reminds me of a 70's Lincoln or a 50's british Lux yaght.
I can see why you'd like to use the design idea, JMT. lets hope George doesn't mind much.
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KGS, you aren't really missing much (at least story wise) with Ep III, but it is something to watch for completion and for the opening battle.
And I highly doubt George would care, once the attrocity of Ep. 1 came out I lost all respect for him.