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Title: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on March 28, 2014, 06:23:32 PM
Well, since my college class on 3DSMAX has finally started and I've learned a few things, Ive decided to work on a design ive had around for a while but never properly attempted. The ship is a Late 24th/Early 25th Century Ambassador class offshoot. I was thinking of calling it either the Dissidia Class or Uematsu Class, but now id like to hear what names you guys think would suit her and a possible registry for the ship.

Here is what I have done so far:

(http://i.imgur.com/Q5ZX9Rv.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/vCuZNWw.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/zLqTd4u.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/kN1Etl3.png)

Enjoy!
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Ambassador Class offshoot.
Post by: nxadam1701 on March 28, 2014, 06:42:24 PM
To properly name her; gives us your inspiration for your idea, her roles, her history, any significance to her creation, based on a war, future conflict, exploration, etc...
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Ambassador Class offshoot.
Post by: WileyCoyote on March 28, 2014, 06:47:40 PM
Something is not quite right with the indents in the saucer. It could be the smoothing.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Ambassador Class offshoot.
Post by: flarespire on March 28, 2014, 06:50:47 PM
To properly name her; gives us your inspiration for your idea, her roles, her history, any significance to her creation, based on a war, future conflict, exploration, etc...
That's the problem, I can't remember my reasons for designing her...

Something is not quite right with the indents in the saucer. It could be the smoothing.

I may need you're assistance with her at some point, as I'm still learning the basics.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Ambassador Class offshoot.
Post by: nxadam1701 on March 28, 2014, 07:02:00 PM
Well this is an interesting mission. I love to speculate on new starship designs. Well since you don't remember, how many phasers or torpedoes will be on her. You intend on making a primary and secondary hull similar to the ambassador right, what noticeable difference can you tell us. Smaller or larger. Engines? Long range or for short range. Same engine type or a cross between ambassador / galaxy or the experimental engines like the Cheyenne or Springfield.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Ambassador Class offshoot.
Post by: flarespire on March 28, 2014, 07:06:24 PM
Hmm... well From what I can recall, shes a Deep Space Exploration vessel, so she has some decent degree of protection and armaments, I believe she is also prototyping a new Nacelle setup for more efficient use at Warp velocities and that she is roughly the same size as the Ambassador Class itself, I think there's like 1 or 2 decks difference. But other than that I can't remember anything else about her.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Ambassador Class offshoot.
Post by: flarespire on March 29, 2014, 09:44:20 PM
A small update to the ship, added an Impulse Engine and attempted to tidy up the mesh for the "cut-ins" on the saucer.

(http://i.imgur.com/0NyfgLR.png)

Enjoy!
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Ambassador Class offshoot.
Post by: Kophjaeger on March 30, 2014, 01:11:18 AM
This looks like a real promising start. Where you going to chamffer the edges of the bridge super structure?
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Ambassador Class offshoot.
Post by: flarespire on March 30, 2014, 07:27:21 AM
Probably will, right now im just getting things in place so I know what goes where.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Ambassador Class offshoot.
Post by: flarespire on March 30, 2014, 04:17:46 PM
Update time!
Secondary Hull is under way!

(http://i.imgur.com/oqD6C7o.png)

Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Ambassador Class offshoot.
Post by: Bones on March 30, 2014, 04:19:54 PM
Good to see you making progress in modelling mate  :thumbsup: keep up good work !
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Ambassador Class offshoot.
Post by: flarespire on March 30, 2014, 04:34:03 PM
Another Update.
Some more work on the secondary hull done and edges of bridge structure chamfered.
(http://i.imgur.com/cVQHBAJ.png)
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Ambassador Class offshoot.
Post by: flarespire on April 05, 2014, 06:14:33 AM
Another Update.

Finished off the secondary hull (excluding some adjustments I may make in the near future).
Also I am aware that the smoothing looks a little off near the rear shuttlebay's doors.

(http://i.imgur.com/QjuQc3J.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/FtwYRRJ.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/jGMRxnc.png)
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Ambassador Class offshoot.
Post by: 007bashir on April 06, 2014, 04:49:03 AM
i like the saucer but the secondary hull is too big ib my eyes
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Ambassador Class offshoot.
Post by: Darkthunder on April 06, 2014, 12:11:27 PM
I think it looks fine. From the side, you can see it's size, while the perspective view kinda distorts the actual proportions.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Ambassador Class offshoot.
Post by: hobbs on June 01, 2014, 04:50:42 PM
im not seeing pics anyone have any ideas on why?
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Ambassador Class offshoot.
Post by: Bones on June 02, 2014, 02:59:20 AM
Sean mentioned image hosting is still not functional, for now we will have to put links to images until image hosting is fixed

Although I can see pictures already added to the forums so it might be working ;)
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Ambassador Class offshoot.
Post by: flarespire on June 02, 2014, 04:45:51 PM
Huzzah! I have a somewhat small(-ish) update on this ships progress, enjoy!
(http://i.imgur.com/C9GeNpu.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/CymT8cb.png)
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Ambassador Class offshoot.
Post by: hobbs on June 02, 2014, 05:38:15 PM
Hmm seems if i use Chrome i can see pics (was using firefox)

awesome work :)
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Ambassador Class offshoot.
Post by: flarespire on June 02, 2014, 05:42:17 PM
Weird, I'm using Firefox and I can see images fine....

Anyways, glad you like the progress :D
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Ambassador Class offshoot.
Post by: Bones on June 02, 2014, 06:17:59 PM
No. Those pylons looks completely out of place ... look at overall shape of ambassador, pylons look too boxy for overal shape of the ship
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Ambassador Class offshoot.
Post by: flarespire on June 02, 2014, 06:34:45 PM
It IS still a WIP... Things will get sorted with time, anyway its an offshoot class, doesn't have to follow the ambassador class design THAT strictly, it's allowed to deviate.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Ambassador Class offshoot.
Post by: Bones on June 03, 2014, 05:41:20 AM
No I didn't mean it should look more Ambassador like ;) I meant the Pylons should be less boxy, also I would bend them little bit forward ;) but avoid direct similiarities to Galaxy class so it looks more original.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Ambassador Class offshoot.
Post by: flarespire on June 03, 2014, 10:41:35 AM
I did toy with forward swept nacelles, however it seemed to look very odd and broke the flow of the ship, and TBH, ever since STO introduced the regent Ive been put off forward swept nacelles in most designs (Prometheus excluded.).
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Ambassador Class offshoot.
Post by: Vortex on June 03, 2014, 12:17:42 PM
Looking good. How about having the pylons connect in a similar location to the Constitution's, if you want something a little different?
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Ambassador Class offshoot.
Post by: Commander_One on June 15, 2014, 09:52:48 PM
I'm loving it so far!    I also like how you've shortened the neck.  It definitely makes this design style look exceptional!  Pylon location looks fine to me...maybe have them sweep backward slightly (30 degrees perhaps?) 
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Ambassador Class offshoot.
Post by: flarespire on August 24, 2014, 06:48:34 PM
Its been a while, but thanks to some help from FarShot with the nacelles (a.k.a making them for me after my attempts failed misserably, thanks for that!) the ships model is pretty much complete, just needs its phaser and torpedo placements and texturing and then shes ready to be hardpointed. Here's some renders:
(http://i.imgur.com/LwwwL8G.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/F8EVfWl.png)
Enjoy!
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Ambassador Class offshoot.
Post by: flarespire on August 31, 2014, 12:49:31 PM
Well after a lot of discussion with some friends, Iv'e decided on a name for this ship and its class, I give you the Branford class starship, U.S.S. Branford, NX-79885.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Ambassador Class offshoot.
Post by: nxadam1701 on August 31, 2014, 01:06:38 PM
I'm loving the warp engines. Massive improvement. The shape and designs of the warp engines remind me of the ones on the Type 7 shuttle(Andrew Proberts design); you can almost say it's your rendition of the predecessor of that shuttles warp engines.

Name is good too. Very very nice. But why such a high registry number?

Adam
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Ambassador Class offshoot.
Post by: flarespire on August 31, 2014, 01:12:32 PM
Well the ship, even though using an archaic design, is a test bed for a new experimental warp engine efficiency setup, and several other systems launched a few years after the events of ST:Nemesis. The systems used on the Branford are later distributed slowly throughout the fleet after her first successful test flight, meaning that she is the only ship of her class.

Also, I didnt make the nacelles in the end, I had done a couple attempts but FarShot kinda just, made them and gave em to me one night and after a bit of tweaking I got em to work with the ship, so he gets credit for those.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Ambassador Class offshoot.
Post by: nxadam1701 on August 31, 2014, 01:25:26 PM
I love the engines. You really nailed it but I question the time frame you are suggesting, esp since during the Dominion wars (Prometheus, Nova, Sovereign) and everything after; we've since an architectural design change from the spherical/cylindrical design to triangular and much sleeker designs. This seems to be a more TNG look rather than a Post Nemesis. But I respect your decision nonetheless. Can't wait to see more.

Adam
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Branford Class Starship (Ambassador Class offshoot).
Post by: Nebula on August 31, 2014, 04:29:39 PM
looks neat
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Branford Class Starship (Ambassador Class offshoot).
Post by: hobbs on August 31, 2014, 04:59:46 PM
very nice... awesome ship but i agree with adam on the time frame

good work dude
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Branford Class Starship (Ambassador Class offshoot).
Post by: Bones on September 01, 2014, 08:32:54 AM
It's starting to look really nice :)
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Branford Class Starship (Ambassador Class offshoot).
Post by: ViperM1 on September 01, 2014, 09:20:57 PM
I can't wait to see her when she's finished. Nice work!
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Branford Class Starship (Ambassador Class offshoot).
Post by: moed on September 02, 2014, 03:34:22 PM
Coming along nicely!
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Branford Class Starship (Ambassador Class offshoot).
Post by: flarespire on September 08, 2014, 09:07:03 AM
Well whilst I try to figure out good phaser and torpedo placements for the Branford, how about you guys take a look at a design I'm working on. (Note, she is not the same size as a Nova or Rhode Island class starship, she is more akin to the size of the Avenger Class starship.)

(http://i.imgur.com/oyAyl3n.png)

God dammit forums stop thumb-nailing it :L
Heres a link to the full size version...
http://i.imgur.com/oyAyl3n.png

Enjoy!
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Branford Class Starship (Ambassador Class offshoot).
Post by: Vortex on September 08, 2014, 11:27:33 AM
Looks like a good start.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on October 17, 2014, 08:22:51 PM
With the help of Wiley on the design front, construction of the Valhalla class has begun:
(http://i.imgur.com/WXEQOvd.png)
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: hobbs on October 18, 2014, 05:42:43 AM
looking good flarespire :D.... that would make a cool seperated saucer section :)
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on October 18, 2014, 08:45:12 AM
Hmm, perhaps saucer separation may be something to look into on this design....
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: andyp on October 18, 2014, 09:40:25 AM
great start, I would recommend adding some extra polys to the nose of the saucer to smooth it out a bit, currently it looks pointier compared to the concept design that you posted.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on October 18, 2014, 10:10:49 AM
Hows this? Also I've added in the Defiant Style Torpedo Launchers on the saucer.

(http://i.imgur.com/GbnHSPJ.png)
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: Tuskin38 on October 18, 2014, 02:10:27 PM
It looks like the Avenger from STO if it was regular Starfleet Design. I like.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on October 18, 2014, 02:23:27 PM
I did take a little inspiration from the Avenger, I'm glad you like it.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: moed on October 19, 2014, 10:20:28 PM
Looking good so far!

Early to mid 25th century design?
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on October 19, 2014, 10:46:09 PM
Somewhere around that time-frame, haven't really got the specifics down yet...
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: andyp on October 21, 2014, 01:00:32 PM
its better, but I would say on the edges you could still add more. one of the things I learned from studying Wiley's work is that game models look ten times better when the edges have more poly's. see image below for what I mean, the inner circle has 24 polys then each level from there 48, and 72. each layer has more poly's so look smoother.

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3952/14973263753_ee5ae070a2_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oP8TDT) (https://flic.kr/p/oP8TDT)
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on October 31, 2014, 06:15:12 PM
With Wiley's amazing help the ship now has its deflector and the start of its secondary hull. Now to be clear here, Wiley did the connecting piece of the saucer to the deflector and behind the deflector into the secondary hull, I built the deflector itself.

(http://i.imgur.com/xi6h6to.png)

Here is how the side profile of the ship should look:

(http://i.imgur.com/vMEEHx9.png)

Should have some more Pics soon.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: hobbs on October 31, 2014, 07:36:55 PM
looking good :)
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: Darkthunder on November 01, 2014, 06:57:55 AM
Looks like a sleaker/more streamlined version of the Sovereign. Looking good indeed :)
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: andyp on November 03, 2014, 01:45:52 PM
Looks Awesome!
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: Lord Tribble on November 03, 2014, 03:59:30 PM
That's looking rather nice, it's like an evolution of the Rhode Island
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on November 03, 2014, 09:33:24 PM
Made a bit more progress today, flattened off most of the scoop in front of the deflector to make room for 2 forward torpedo launchers and a captains yacht (that I don't know if I'm going to actually make as an MVAM detachable ship yet) also as I'm adding those 2 forward torpedo launchers, the defiant style ones have become pulse phaser cannons instead of torpedo launchers.

(http://i.imgur.com/F66eEoe.png)
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on November 04, 2014, 07:41:41 PM
More Progress, Secondary Hull is complete, again a MASSIVE thank you to Wiley for helping me fix up the secondary hull, esepecially around the shuttle bay area, your sir are a god send!

(http://i.imgur.com/TixHtNl.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/JYzV9Ii.png)
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on February 07, 2015, 05:48:21 AM
Been a while since I posted anything to this thread, College has had me really busy, but rest assured that the Valhalla is not dead.

Changes Made:
-Shortened the secondary hull back to its original length (it looks weird at some angles without this change)
-Added the basic Pylons (No nacelles yet though)
-Images:
 (http://i.imgur.com/k1vdyxT.png)
 (http://i.imgur.com/TddWzVN.png)

I hope you all like this update, I aim to have the model finished pretty soon, as I have another use for it aside from BC planned.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: Bones on February 07, 2015, 12:51:15 PM
I really like the shape of primary hull (dunno if it still qualifies for saucer, more like arrowhead :P) keep it up mate ;)
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on February 07, 2015, 12:54:02 PM
Thanks Bones! I still count it as a saucer mainly by section names, so I can plan what needs to go where, even though it does not conform to a shape that qualifies as a saucer.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: Vortex on February 07, 2015, 02:16:53 PM
I've never been a fan of ships having the bridge module so far back on the saucer. I've always felt that they should be centered. Like what you have going, though.

Selecting your whole mesh and recalculating should get rid of that black squiggly line.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on February 07, 2015, 02:21:33 PM
yeah I think Ill do that at the end once everything is build and symmetry'd...
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: DJ Curtis on February 08, 2015, 10:58:32 AM
I like the inlets on the sides of the saucer section.  One thing I'd say is to smooth the leading edges of the nacelle pylons separately from the ventral on dorsal faces unless you're going to add more segments.  It will actually look smoother.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on February 08, 2015, 11:17:17 AM
Thanks for the advice DJ, glad your liking her! I'm hopefully going to be on Skype with Wiley later on, so Ill ask him on the best way to sort that out.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on March 17, 2015, 03:39:50 AM
It's been a while, but College kinda stepped up on the workload, anyway here's a new update, Big thanks to Wiley for all the help hes given me on the nacelles (a.k.a sending me a half finished nacelle design we did from before I actually knew how to model and letting me finish it off.)
(http://i.imgur.com/J4Lbv0D.png)
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: hobbs on March 17, 2015, 09:11:24 AM
Really good job there well Don you ate mastering ship modelling it seems...I hope I get as good
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: andyp on March 17, 2015, 11:12:43 AM
My God, Its full of Win. It's like an STO era nova class.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on March 17, 2015, 11:16:09 AM
Emphasis on the word "Like", I intend her to be around double the size of a Nova.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: Vortex on March 17, 2015, 11:19:05 AM
Looking awesome.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: JimmyB76 on March 20, 2015, 11:37:17 AM
i like it!
i has a Nova-ish Class feel to it, and my fav ship is the USS Rhode Island (my home state in the US lol) - looking forward to watching this unfold :)
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on March 21, 2015, 08:28:45 PM
Well she ain't small anymore! Coming in at a total deck count of 24, here is the weaponized Valhalla! With a indescribably large amount of thanks once again to WileyCoyote for helping me fix her up, smooth her and get her ship shape. Cheers Wiley!  :D

Images ( :eek pretty...) :
(http://i.imgur.com/4DORHlH.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/fGym5CN.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/4sgttG9.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/pOiGmHT.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/yCb8ksN.png)
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on March 23, 2015, 09:27:05 AM
Started to map the ship after having a 3 hour long argument with 3DS Max on whether or not it actually wanted to start working:
(http://i.imgur.com/Jb9CwQ8.jpg)
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: Vortex on March 23, 2015, 11:09:08 AM
There's a lot to like about this one. It's a solid design. The only thing I'd recommend changing, if it isn't too late, is the angle of the cutout for the deflector. On the side view, it looks rather sharp and doesn't flow with the rest of the ship. Something more akin to Eaves' original Ent-E concept sketches may work better there.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on March 23, 2015, 01:09:06 PM
To be honest, I did try that out, and although it gave the ship a little bit of a better flow to it, it felt wrong, especially considering the size of the deflector and how that area is constructed. At this point I really just want her out of the modeling and texturing phase, but I will keep that revision in mind if I decide to do a refit version of the design.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: Tethys on March 23, 2015, 01:53:07 PM
I think it flows rather nicely, like a Prometheus Intrepid lovechild
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: Bones on March 23, 2015, 01:56:16 PM
More like a replacement for Nova. I've got to say she looks ace ! very clean design, can't wait to see what will you come up with texturing her ;) keep up good work :)
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on March 23, 2015, 01:58:31 PM
guys, she isn't a replacement for the nova, as I stated earlier, shes got 24 decks and is roughly the size of a sovereign...  :roll

But I'm glad you guys like her, did anyone happen to notice rather different phaser strip placements for the aft-ventral quarter?
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: Tethys on March 23, 2015, 02:21:29 PM
If she is that big, might want to scale down those Defiant style torpedo launchers.. just a suggestion :)
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on March 23, 2015, 02:27:05 PM
they're not torpedo launchers, they're pulse phasers and I'm not doing any more modification to the model now that Iv'e started to UVMap it.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: Vortex on March 23, 2015, 02:48:33 PM
I'm just glad you haven't killed it by adding one of those Voyager style secondary deflectors on the saucer.

Haven't noticed the phasers.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: FarShot on March 23, 2015, 05:42:51 PM
Hey, secondary deflectors are cool.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: Bones on March 24, 2015, 07:59:59 AM
Oh, I remember it started as something smaller :P I missed the deck count info

Pulse phasers looks right to me, also I don't like saucer deflectors, so it's good you didn't put it there ;)
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on March 24, 2015, 07:30:04 PM
Well the UVMapping of the ship is complete, will post a new render when I have started to do the texturing.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on September 15, 2017, 04:22:29 AM
I just realised I never posted Texture Progress Renders here, welp, Image dump incoming!
(https://i.imgur.com/D3mYuUB.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/wQzR1gp.png)
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: newhalo123 on September 15, 2017, 04:24:43 AM
Lookin good man!
Loving the look of her!


took ya long enough. I mean, the last post was in march, but, y'know.
And also no windows!? I know ya don't like windows but come on XD
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on September 15, 2017, 04:33:43 AM
Had to re-render out my registry progress hooray for returning smoothing errors I though id fixed!
anyway, heres the render, ill have more when I get off my butt and finish these damn textures off:
(https://i.imgur.com/KZlqCtg.png)
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: newhalo123 on September 15, 2017, 04:35:50 AM
windows  :icon_lol: :funny
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: JimmyB76 on September 15, 2017, 05:43:26 PM
i like where this ship is going!

it is somewhat resembling ChiefBrex's Poseidon Class, which was always one of my fav ships...
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: Nebula on September 15, 2017, 08:03:15 PM
Yeah I do like the look of this
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: JimmyB76 on September 16, 2017, 08:35:07 AM
whats the size of this ship?
is it smaller in size like a Nova Class?
or larger like the Prometheus Class or Intrepid Class?  or perhaps larger like the Sovereign Class?
is it designed with powerful defense weapons?  or average?
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: hobbs on September 16, 2017, 09:27:51 AM
awesome ship dude  :Metal: really like your design.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on September 18, 2017, 10:44:01 AM
going by my deck heights shes about Prometheus size. She has about average weapons, (phasers, photons & quantums) but she also has defiant styled pulse phasers in the front, hence the defiant inspired cut in panels on the front of the saucer. And yeah I remember seeing stuff for Brex's Poseidon Class, cant be sure if I used it for any inspiration on this or not though as its been a few YEARS since I originally conceptualised this one.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: Kophjaeger on October 06, 2017, 02:50:41 PM
Cookie on the textures. Very realistic plating, custom made for the ship?
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on October 07, 2017, 10:39:31 AM
yeah, the plating is custom for the ship, though it wasn't me who initially made it, I had help from Wiley.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: admiral horton on October 08, 2017, 11:18:18 AM
Like it
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on March 12, 2021, 09:52:05 PM
So, it's been a while, However, I am pleased to announce I have FINALLY and with help gotten her textured and in game, she now uses a single 2048x2048 texture for the entire ship.

I am also pleased to announce the Beta Test Release of the ship here!
I am aware of a couple of issues, like Phasers firing through the hull, but she seems to work and be a spry ship!
Download the Beta here: https://www.mediafire.com/file/yckv6z8cj1j6y6d/USSValhalla_Beta.7z/file

Here are some images of her in game:
(https://i.imgur.com/CE7Xer0.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/mSkKhxP.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/IuuVC40.png)
(https://i.imgur.com/civZvtT.png)

There are Credits in the README, but, I would like to personally thank King Class Scout, WileyCoyote and the rest of the community here for the help and support in getting her in game in a "finished" state!
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: Lurok91 on March 13, 2021, 09:13:47 AM
Well done  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: Haxxor1337 on March 13, 2021, 09:29:01 AM
THX!!!! :Metal:
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on March 13, 2021, 01:49:33 PM
Ok so, Beta update time. To avoid a conflict with another ship that goes by Valhalla, all the scripts have been renamed to "USSValhalla" and appropriate script changes made, still working out the HP fix for the beam arrays firing through the ship, but I have also fixed the one beefy red array coming from the saucer.

Please be sure to delete the old Valhalla.py and Valhalla.pyc scripts from your install before trying this beta update.
Locations of old scripts are as follows
<BC Install Root>\scripts\custom\ships
<BC Install Root>\scripts\ships
<BC Install Root>\scripts\ships\Hardpoints

Download the Updated Beta 3 Mod here: https://www.mediafire.com/file/k1j9fmxavrws5jk/USSValhalla_Beta_3.7z/file
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on March 14, 2021, 10:41:06 PM
OK Folks! Beta update time!

We are now on Beta 4, Elijah did an amazing job fixing the HP and scripts and optimising the mesh!
Just drag the data and scripts folder to your BC install as usual, should overwrite all the Beta 3 Files and the Readme has an updated manifest of the files this uses.

Grab Beta 4 here! https://www.mediafire.com/file/kcepxbootw2p8zm/USSValhalla_Beta_4.7z/file
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: CMDR CHESS on March 15, 2021, 05:40:23 AM
Great Looking Ship. I just downloaded it and will look into it after work. But, you should not give up on that original idea though. That Ambassador variant was a great idea. Should do both.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on March 15, 2021, 11:51:20 AM
Great Looking Ship. I just downloaded it and will look into it after work. But, you should not give up on that original idea though. That Ambassador variant was a great idea. Should do both.

I would finish off that ambassador variant, however, I lost a lot of my old model work a few years ago when my windows install of the time went nuclear on me.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: CMDR CHESS on March 15, 2021, 07:13:17 PM
Well. Great ship, and I think something went wrong in the install. I played the ship in my game and the glows aren't on. I see the glows like deflector and impulse when we're shooting at each other, but not alone. Looks blacked out.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on March 16, 2021, 11:06:23 AM
that seems like an issue with your installe or graphics settings in game, might be worth double checking them, enabling enhanced glows usually helps. Haven't really had that issue be a thing with any other beta testers or my own install, but ill take a look in case.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: Elijah on March 18, 2021, 11:58:04 PM
OK Folks! Beta update time!

We are now on Beta 4, Elijah did an amazing job fixing the HP and scripts and optimising the mesh!
Just drag the data and scripts folder to your BC install as usual, should overwrite all the Beta 3 Files and the Readme has an updated manifest of the files this uses.

Grab Beta 4 here! https://www.mediafire.com/file/kcepxbootw2p8zm/USSValhalla_Beta_4.7z/file

 :yay: :yay: :yay:
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: Raven Night on March 19, 2021, 09:59:48 AM
Man, that is a real beauty. Great work.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on March 20, 2021, 11:57:58 AM
Thanks, I appreciate it! Stil got some tweaks to make (most likely removing the cloak) and then I should be able to fully release her.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on March 22, 2021, 05:36:56 PM
Heads up people, I'm still undecided on weather or not to keep the Valhalla's Cloaking capabilities, so I have put a poll up, feel free to vote!
Ill lock voting in a few days, this is basically the final script change I need to make before she can be released (I have one texture addition I wanna do but thats gonna take me a little bit)
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: Darkthunder on March 22, 2021, 05:42:46 PM
Voted to Keep. However, if we wanna get technical about it...

If this ship is commissioned prior to the fall of the Romulan Empire (in 2385), the Treaty of Algeron would still apply. No Cloaking Devices on Federation ships other than with special dispensation from the Romulans (such as on the USS Defiant).

So if you're backstory for the ship is commissioned post-2385, cloak away! The Treaty would no longer be valid :P
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on March 22, 2021, 09:45:13 PM
well, she is supposed to be a late domion war/ post dominion war ship, the idea was for her to be the federations "crap hit the fan so lets get rough" ship but, im still a tad bit ambiguous on the details myself right now.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: Raven Night on March 23, 2021, 12:28:15 PM
Create a narrative that suggests the Romulans withdrew from the Treaty of Algeron after the Dominion War. There are many reasons it might do this...I have a reason that I wrote into the lore for Star Trek Infinity that I can share if you wish.

We are of course precient to the fact that the Romulan homeworld is destroyed later in the timeline, so there is that as well.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on March 23, 2021, 12:47:50 PM
Yeah, thats what ive been trying to do, ultimately, the results of the poll once I close it, will help me flesh that area of back story out and give her a more detailed description.
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: KrrKs on March 23, 2021, 01:57:15 PM
I'm generally not a fan of cloaking devices on fed ships.

But honestly, do whatever feels right to you!
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on March 26, 2021, 11:05:43 PM
Well, its been a few days and the concensus overall, accoding to the poll is to scrap the cloak, so, it will be removed for the final release. now I just gonna make my texture change I've been toying with and I SHOULD be able to release her properly!
Title: Re: flarespire's WIP's - Valhalla Class Starship
Post by: flarespire on March 29, 2021, 07:48:02 PM
She has been released! http://www.bc-central.net/forums/index.php/topic,10786.0.html