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Title: Starship shootout!
Post by: TheConstable6 on August 07, 2010, 09:12:30 PM
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I know we have some old school fans on this board, time to see just how many! Let battle commence!
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: Nebula on August 07, 2010, 09:20:35 PM
ugh I don't see the point....
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: Kirk on August 07, 2010, 09:30:31 PM
Oi, go be an old, cynical fart somewhere else! What's this you're on about pat?
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: TheConstable6 on August 07, 2010, 09:48:32 PM
Just a simple field test. There was some grumbling about 'too many Connies,', so I wanted to see if Connies ARE what the people want.

I figured if I post one pic of a Sov & one of a Connie, then people will start arguing over which is better-looking, and by extension which century is better, 23rd or 24th...

Kind of a stupid post, but I could't think of anyting better to do, it's a few days until my vacation...
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: JimmyB76 on August 07, 2010, 09:51:00 PM
There was some grumbling about 'too many Connies,'
*grumble grumble* :D
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: Nebula on August 07, 2010, 09:51:23 PM
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I figured if I post one pic of a Sov & one of a Connie, then people will start arguing over which is better-looking, and by extension which century is better, 23rd or 24th...

An argument is one thing I'd like to avoid... We all have our fav ships no need to argue about it...
(though arguments are known to pop up now and then... can't always stop them.)
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: FarShot on August 07, 2010, 10:31:08 PM
I was searching for a video I saw once of all the captains duking it out, but I found this instead.  The graphics are amazing to say the least.
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: Nebula on August 07, 2010, 10:34:23 PM
eh that's images taken from Star Wreck.... crazy graphics for a comedy movie.
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: TheConstable6 on August 07, 2010, 11:01:36 PM
EAS Backgammon  :D
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: Kirk on August 07, 2010, 11:03:56 PM
I'm a Galaxy class fan myself, or at least that's what my renders have featured a lot lately.
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: FarShot on August 07, 2010, 11:34:48 PM
My favorite canon ship would have to be the Sov.  The earliest Trek I remember was First Contact.  I was four when that came out, fond memories.

However, my favorite ship in Trek canon or non-canon would have to be DJ Curtis's Enterprise F.  Love at first sight with her, graceful curves, beautiful and big deflector, and keeps all the sleekness of the Sovereign while giving a throwback to the D's curves. :drink:
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: JimmyB76 on August 07, 2010, 11:39:44 PM
The earliest Trek I remember was First Contact.  I was four when that came out
oh brother...  i had just turned 20 lol :P
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: Psyco Diver on August 07, 2010, 11:57:14 PM
Galaxy Class fan myself, a Constellation Class is a close second
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Post by: deadthunder2_0 on August 08, 2010, 12:08:15 AM
Canon- Mogai Class Warbird
Non-canon- Belknap Refit
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: Lionus on August 08, 2010, 01:41:28 AM
canon: Constellation class. :D (didn't see that one coming, eh?) It's followed closely by Excelsior refit (Ent-B, Lakota etc)
non-canon: Coeur de Lion, Yamamoto battleship, Galaxy X.
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: TheConstable6 on August 08, 2010, 11:32:38 AM
canon: Constellation class. :D (didn't see that one coming, eh?) It's followed closely by Excelsior refit (Ent-B, Lakota etc)
non-canon: Coeur de Lion, Yamamoto battleship, Galaxy X.
Galaxy Class fan myself, a Constellation Class is a close second

Constellation class? Interesting. I've always hated that one.
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: Lionus on August 08, 2010, 12:28:28 PM
why? is it because it could spank galaxy in a simulated battle? or because it was yet another TMP vessel that survived through dominion war?
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Post by: eclipse74569 on August 08, 2010, 01:10:16 PM
oh brother...  i had just turned 20 lol :P

Old old man :P *ducks*
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: TheConstable6 on August 08, 2010, 01:39:25 PM
why? is it because it could spank galaxy in a simulated battle? or because it was yet another TMP vessel that survived through dominion war?


Nothing against the ship, I just thought the design looked so stupid with the sets of nacelles at different heights in relation to the saucer.
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: Nebula on August 08, 2010, 01:41:58 PM
what do you mean diff heights... they are the same...

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Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: Psyco Diver on August 08, 2010, 02:05:42 PM
I dunno I always liked them since I seen it, and I'm not a fan of TMP ships or most quad nacelle ships, this one just seems right when ever I look at it
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: TheConstable6 on August 08, 2010, 02:10:37 PM
what do you mean diff heights... they are the same...

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Hmmm my mind must be playing tricks on me then...

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Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: Nebula on August 08, 2010, 03:58:42 PM
here is a nice side view for ya....
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: baz1701 on August 08, 2010, 04:32:56 PM
oh brother...  i had just turned 20 lol :P

Ha ha I was 21 have you beat :P, oh wait a minunte that now makes me old :eek :cry:
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: TheConstable6 on August 08, 2010, 06:28:15 PM
here is a nice side view for ya....

I concede :biatch:

jk  :D
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: Lionus on August 08, 2010, 06:34:24 PM
here is a nice side view for ya....

I got a crisis..  :doh:  :drool:
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: FarShot on August 08, 2010, 06:46:39 PM
*pssht* Cleanup in Lionus's pants... *pssht*
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: TheConstable6 on August 08, 2010, 07:24:47 PM
Moving away...

Does anyone really like or really dislike the Excelsior? I've always just kinda thought 'meh'. :idk:
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: FarShot on August 08, 2010, 07:28:31 PM
I love her, but if there was one thing I didn't like, it would be the neck.  Is there a good explanation for those ridges?  Also, it looks a bit thin to me from the side, which is weird since it's not.
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: TheConstable6 on August 08, 2010, 07:49:09 PM
I love the deflector/engineering hull from the front but hate the underside of the saucer
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: ekbalam on August 09, 2010, 08:25:33 PM
Lovin the Excelsior Class!

What about the underside of the saucer bothers you?

The only thing that bugs me about it is the shuttlebay in that big opening in the rear of the engineering hull. The most logical place, in my opinion is the tail between the nacelles, but it's in that big opening. Maybe that's an okay place to put it, but why not close off that whole section?  :coffee:
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: Hellsgate on August 10, 2010, 03:32:05 AM
I'd have to say Galen's "Vers. 1.0" of the Legacy-Class.

Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: kitkat27 on August 10, 2010, 05:34:35 AM
I'd totally second the legacy class! Damn beautiful ship!!!!!!  :bow:
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: TheConstable6 on August 10, 2010, 01:43:16 PM
Lovin the Excelsior Class!

What about the underside of the saucer bothers you?

The only thing that bugs me about it is the shuttlebay in that big opening in the rear of the engineering hull. The most logical place, in my opinion is the tail between the nacelles, but it's in that big opening. Maybe that's an okay place to put it, but why not close off that whole section?  :coffee:

The color scheme w/ the turquoise bugs me, come to think of it so do the nacelle pylons
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: mckinneyc on August 11, 2010, 03:15:08 PM
To me the standard Excelsior is the perfect starship design. Looks good from every angle and is well balanced.
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: Morgan on August 11, 2010, 03:57:11 PM
I'm indifferent to the Excelsior now. I used to like it but it's been way overused.
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: Kirk on August 11, 2010, 05:10:56 PM
it's been way overused.
How so?
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: Morgan on August 11, 2010, 05:33:46 PM
How so?
Look at about 50 episodes of TNG, DS9, and about 10 episodes of Voyager to find your answer... :dontcare:
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: bankruptstudios on August 12, 2010, 01:43:17 AM
Not really, it was in 13 TNG, nearly every DS9, and only 2 Voy.
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: Morgan on August 12, 2010, 02:59:24 AM
It was in more I'm positive. Either way I think it's been overused but to each his own.
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: FarShot on August 12, 2010, 08:14:21 AM
According to Memory Alpha:

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    * Star Trek films: (5)
    * TNG: (17)
    * DS9: (31)
    * VOY: (6)
    * ENT: "Shockwave" (computer display)

Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: Lionus on August 12, 2010, 08:57:38 AM
what about Connie and Galaxy? talk about overused..  :P :funny
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: Morgan on August 12, 2010, 12:14:42 PM
what about Connie and Galaxy? talk about overused..  :P :funny
I think we can excuse the main settings of the shows  :P
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: Lionus on August 12, 2010, 12:34:20 PM
Uh huh, how about the umpteen Galaxys in DS9? If memory serves, only six were built? one destroyed by JemHadar, one blown up by that virus.. that leaves four.
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: Nebula on August 12, 2010, 12:49:40 PM
there were more than 6 Galaxy's ever built... more like 20....

The Enterprise was one of the first 4 built.
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: Morgan on August 12, 2010, 03:16:18 PM
Uh huh, how about the umpteen Galaxys in DS9? If memory serves, only six were built? one destroyed by JemHadar, one blown up by that virus.. that leaves four.

If I remember correctly it was originally six built and six additional space frames that could be "filled out" if needed, which obviously happened in the Dominion War. And this wasn't even established in canon, I think it was from a tech manual. Either way who cares!? In my opinion the Excelsior was overused what is wrong with me having that opinion? The Galaxy (excluding the regular Ent-D appearances) wasn't seen as often as the Excelsior anyways.
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: Hellsgate on August 14, 2010, 02:56:13 AM
I forgot to mention the Xenon-Class as one of my favorites.



 
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: Psyco Diver on August 15, 2010, 01:23:35 AM
One thing I would like to point out is I never seen a bad angle of the Galaxy class, everyother ship has bad viewing angles, don't get me wrong lots of ST ships are interesting and/or pretty to look at, but the galaxy class looks good no matter how you look at it. Its just a good looking ship period
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: mckinneyc on August 15, 2010, 09:40:16 AM
I have to disagree, she is top heavy which makes certain viewing angles strange. She looks best from below either looking aft or forward.
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Post by: Morgan on August 15, 2010, 12:36:51 PM
For me it depends on which version of the Galaxy-class I'm looking at. The four-foot models has one or two bad angles but I haven't really seen one on the six-footer (or the CGI's used on DS9/VOY/ENT that are based on the six-footer).
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: TheConstable6 on August 15, 2010, 02:28:53 PM
For me it depends on which version of the Galaxy-class I'm looking at. The four-foot models has one or two bad angles but I haven't really seen one on the six-footer (or the CGI's used on DS9/VOY/ENT that are based on the six-footer).

I can't tell the difference...
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: Morgan on August 15, 2010, 05:17:56 PM
I can't tell the difference...
The top image is the six-foot model, the bottom is the four-foot. The biggest differences are the deflector, and if you go to Memory Alpha or just google up some aft images there are some differences in the impulse engine on the stardrive. There's a lot of smaller differences too but I believe those are the two big ones.
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: JimmyB76 on August 15, 2010, 05:36:57 PM
For me it depends on which version of the Galaxy-class I'm looking at. The four-foot models has one or two bad angles but I haven't really seen one on the six-footer (or the CGI's used on DS9/VOY/ENT that are based on the six-footer).
I can't tell the difference...
ya same here...  i never bothered comparing and nitpicking the two, and unless someone pointed out the exact differences, id prolly not take notice...
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: Psyco Diver on August 15, 2010, 11:31:39 PM
I can see the difference and I have to agree the 5 footer looks better all together
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Post by: Nebula on August 16, 2010, 12:05:32 AM
I can see the difference and I have to agree the 6 footer looks better all together

fixed ;) they never made a 5 footer lol *runs*

I like em both actually... the 4 footer looks good (I like the bulkiness of the 4 foot it seems stronger) and would be even better with 6 foot detail.

(that's why I like DJ's Galaxy)
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: TheConstable6 on August 16, 2010, 11:04:15 AM
I like the 4ft better.
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: Lionus on August 16, 2010, 07:57:50 PM
Is it just me or does the other one have thicker saucer edge?  :lostit:
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: Nebula on August 16, 2010, 08:04:36 PM
Is it just me or does the other one have thicker saucer edge?  :lostit:

yeah the 4 foot model has wider sensor pallets so it makes the edges thicker.
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Post by: Toa_Kaita on August 16, 2010, 10:00:19 PM
I prefer the 6 foot model. It looks smoother.
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Post by: Psyco Diver on August 16, 2010, 11:25:11 PM
the deflector and engineering section on the 4fter look more narrow than the 6 fter
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Post by: 086gf on August 17, 2010, 01:59:35 PM
the deflector and engineering section on the 4fter look more narrow than the 6 fter

Including the neck.
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: eclipse74569 on August 17, 2010, 08:08:28 PM
uhm...to me they look narrower on the six footer (top picture)...

The Galaxy has always been my favorite ship.  The Sovereign coming in a close second.
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: Psyco Diver on August 18, 2010, 01:38:05 AM
The intrepid was always a really nice looking ship. It looked very TNG and always looked like it was going fast even while standing still
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: mckinneyc on August 18, 2010, 05:09:01 PM
The Intrepid is a funny class, I get two different impressions of her depending if I look at her from the top or the bottom
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: TheConstable6 on August 18, 2010, 05:27:53 PM
I never liked the Intrepid
Title: Re: Starship shootout!
Post by: Senator on August 26, 2010, 12:07:35 PM
I only like the variant with the ballpit in it.