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Recreational Forums => Trek Discussion => Ships & Tech Talk => Topic started by: Dalek on April 25, 2009, 03:53:26 PM
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A member from the SFC community (Fallen_Warrior) made a kitbash of JJ/TOS elements and I can't help but feel curious as to how we react to it. I personally think it is mishapen.
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Misshapen is right. :shock:
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yep, secondary hull is to fat. other than that , not bad.
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The main difference between the JJPrise and the TOS-Prise is the neck. The TOS-Prise's neck leans much further forward than the JJPrise.
Slightly different side on render, here's what I think it should look like to balance things out.
Edit: Added original render.
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I am sorry, but this is one kitbash which simply just doesn't work.
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Understand that the kitbasher isn't brilliant with meshes so the fact that he did pull this off at all is quite impressive.
What about the tweaks pic I posted Billz?
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Understand that the kitbasher isn't brilliant with meshes so the fact that he did pull this off at all is quite impressive.
What about the tweaks pic I posted Billz?
Its mainly the secondary hull which looks very odd. Its too long and fat and doesn't even make me think of the Constitution class. Looks more like a freighter at the moment.
Perhaps do something with the saucer section aswell.
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Agreed, it's the Drive section that messes up the whole flow, it's too large in general, the positioning of the nacelle pylons makes it seem bigger than it is. The neck starts "too soon" if you know what I mean, making the back end look kind of odd. WIth that said though, it has potential.
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A member from the SFC community (Fallen_Warrior) made a kitbash of JJ/TOS elements and I can't help but feel curious as to how we react to it. I personally think it is mishapen.
Not only that, but I never gave permission for him to kitbash my ship and release it. :? If there was a more TOS version of the JJprise, a whole new ship would have to be built. The JJprise is all about curves, while the TOS version is not.
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As far as I know, he didn't release it Wiley. Just messing around to make a mix.
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As far as I know, he didn't release it Wiley. Just messing around to make a mix.
Ok, as long he is just doing it for himself.
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Do you have a link to where he is developing it?
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I got these pictures from Centurus cos Centurus is an SFC guru so there's a good chance that Fallen_Warrior that he's going to Centurus for guidance
To put it simply, it's nowhere and SFC Files don't have it.
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Here is an edited version of your edited version, Dalek. :lol:
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That is cool. Makes it seem like you could easily retexture Wiley's JJPrise. :P
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That is cool. Makes it seem like you could easily retexture Wiley's JJPrise.
I like that newer version. You are starting to give me ideas. :) And yes, my ship is easily retexturable.
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The color scheme at the front of the drive sction (blue bit) really looks outta place when you mash the 2 ships together though.
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The color scheme at the front of the drive sction (blue bit) really looks outta place when you mash the 2 ships together though.
With that in mind, I present my edit to my previous edit of Dalek's edit of the kitbash of a TOS Con and JJ's edited Enterprise.
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F***ing weather! Damn powerflash must've farked up my save! :argh: :argh: :argh:
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File is corrupt.
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As I was doing before God smote my computer, here is the second version and a comparison of the two versions.
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As I was doing before God smote my computer, here is the second version and a comparison of the two versions.
I think miles did a pretty good job on his version for a bash, and FARSHOT, that looks really cool 8)
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As I was doing before God smote my computer, here is the second version and a comparison of the two versions.
I think miles did a pretty good job on his version for a bash, and FARSHOT, that looks really cool 8)
Miles? Oh wait, you mean me? :P All I did was change sizes and model positions. FarShot went one step further and made it...TOS-er. Does that sound right? :?
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In case anyone thought otherwise, all me and Dalek did was edit the picture of fallen_warrior's mesh.
*edited to be less offensive* -Ryan (farshot)
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The main problem I have with this thing is the front end of the secondary hull where it suddenly becomes narrower. Looks plain untatural*
*SH*T SPELLING!!!!
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Hmmm... Ok. No clue this was going to be broadcast. Yes I know the secondary hull is off. I'm still playing with the mesh and the textures. I did this mostly to see if i could find a go-between the various styles of connie. If i feel that it's worth a release upon completion I will sucure permission. But right now its just something to play with. Also my name is Miles, as well. I do like what farshot has done. But my mesh isnt horrid... Well it isn't to me. Also it's comments like "Horrid Mesh" that really make me dislike this place. So thank's for the warm acceptance.
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I do like what farshot has done.
Thank you, just putting out thoughts on what I would do.
But my mesh isnt horrid... Well it isn't to me. Also it's comments like "Horrid Mesh" that really make me dislike this place. So thank's for the warm acceptance.
Sorry about the "horrid mesh" thing. I assumed you would never see this thread, since apparently you are never around here. I don't really mean it is a sad attempt, I just meant that it could be better.
It's good to see your face here, really it is. Constructive criticism is always a good thing. Calling peoples' stuff crap isn't though, so I'll edit that out.
Again, good to see you. :)
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I assumed you would never see this thread, since apparently you are never around here.
Take it from me, if it's on the internet, the person in question will see it. About a year ago I made some very childish posts on Blax's board regarding Jimmy and it turned into a very ugly situation. As I have learned lately, it is always a good idea to check your posts for things that may be offensive (including sarcasm, which 99.9% of the time never translates into text.) ;)
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Okay, before Jimmy says it, let's move along people; except for Fallen_Warrior of course, he gets the last say in the matter. :)
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lol... I'm happy not having the last say in the matter. TOS isn't my strong point... Neither are saucer textures
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I would crash that into a planet...
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Jimmy's a stupid head! :P (j/k)
I like how this thread is revising the design over and over again. It's starting to look pretty bad*ss!
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I find it funny how I'm apologizing to Fallen_Warrior for being rude and 4C just comes in and says that it sucks.
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Well, the only thing I think that really needs fixing on the kitbash is the length of the secondary hull. Just shorten the front end, reposition the secondary hull as needed, and that's it. Make sure the neck is more forward on the secondary hull rather than farther back. Keeping in proportion to the real TOS Connie, and not the bastardprise.
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I find it funny how I'm apologizing to Fallen_Warrior for being rude and 4C just comes in and says that it sucks.
Relax Max, on /m/, where I originate, "I would crash X into a planet" is a good thing. It's a reference to the UC era of Gundam, where Zeon would crash space colonies into planets as WMD.
Hail Zeon.
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Keep the TOS Neck, Lower part of the Engineering section, JJ the Bridge, Engines and Deflector.
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The TOS neck is too brittle. I love the way it was redesigned in JJPrise.
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I think these ideas look great, and the new Enterprise would have been easier to swallow if JJ and co. had done something more along these lines.
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I think these ideas look great, and the new Enterprise would have been easier to swallow if JJ and co. had done something more along these lines.
Have a cookie.
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Well this is certainly interesting. :)
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My version of the Refit Version of that Ship
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My version of the Refit Version of that Ship
:| :| :evil:
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I think ya need to add parts from the Phase 2 Ent before you add parts of the TMP Ent...
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My version of the Refit Version of that Ship
:| :| :evil:
Heh, that's what I did. Cookie :P
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My version of the Refit Version of that Ship
:| :| :evil:
Heh, that's what I did. Cookie :P
You don't get it, I was trying ton convey my feelings of how horrible it looked.
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My version of the Refit Version of that Ship
:| :| :evil:
Heh, that's what I did. Cookie :P
You don't get it, I was trying ton convey my feelings of how horrible it looked.
Which is what I did. Doesn't even have swept back pylons.
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Ahhhh ok. Man, I am getting old. There was a time when I could have picked up on what anyone was trying to say before I even finished reading the sentence.
*looks for my walker*