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Sept 16 is the official release of all 6 movies on blu ray with deleted scenes put into them. I am thinking of getting the ultimate edition collection luckly amazon has a preorder special for 89.99 which has 9 discs. Anyone else going to get it?
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I might have considered it if I didn't already have the saga on VHS and DVD already. Not to mention that this version won't even have the original theatrical versions of the original trilogy. That alone makes it not worth the money.
Not to mention that with Blu-Ray, it'll probably be way easier to tell how fake about 85-95% of the sets from the prequels are.
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Is Lucas going to be messing with them like he has with all the previous rerealease vesions?
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Sept 16 is the official release of all 6 movies on blu ray with deleted scenes put into them. I am thinking of getting the ultimate edition collection luckly amazon has a preorder special for 89.99 which has 9 discs. Anyone else going to get it?
It's ?24 cheaper on Zavvi. :thumbsup:
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Is Lucas going to be messing with them like he has with all the previous rerealease vesions?
No word on that, though some say no. But I'm a cynic when it comes to Star Wars these days, so I'm gonna say most definitely. Maybe this time, Han'll just offer Greedo a drink, and Greedo just shoots himself on accident.
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Well i have learned that Mr. Lucas is planning on putting all 6 movies back on theater screens but in 3D starting with Episode I sometime in 2012 with the others following about a year apart. Mo money mo money mo money
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No word on that, though some say no. But I'm a cynic when it comes to Star Wars these days, so I'm gonna say most definitely. Maybe this time, Han'll just offer Greedo a drink, and Greedo just shoots himself on accident.
no they plan on going back and replacing all the blasters with walkie talkies,
the ewoks will suddenly speak english with an australian accent, chewie now will speak japanese but no one still has a clue wtf hes saying because of all the CG they plan on throwing in the re-re-re-re release will hit max budget, jabba will now get his 3rd make over and is now an actual 6ft tall talking slug, they switched c-3po and r2s dialouge to confuse fans, and Billy Dee Williams insisted on going back, changing the script to make Lando a hero so he could redo all his scenes and dialouge and finally get paid.
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Is Lucas going to be messing with them like he has with all the previous rerealease vesions?
It's been confirmed that Lucas has replaced the puppet Yoda in "The Phantom Menace" with a CGI version.
And a few random scenes have been touched up slightly to get the best presentation on blu-ray. Things like the white cores in the lightsabers in the original trilogy being adjusted to fix errors from the 2004 DVDs.
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/t/314096/lucasfilm-on-star-wars-the-complete-saga-blu-ray-hands-on-report
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/t/314106/lucasfilm-on-star-wars-the-complete-saga-blu-ray-part-ii-matthew-wood
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/articles/starwarsbds/preview.html
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no they plan on going back and replacing all the blasters with walkie talkies,
Dude....you watch too much South Park :P
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Dude....you watch too much South Park :P
Hey, it happened with ET.
So they're touching up effects...blast it. Maybe I'll wait until a set hits clearance.
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Dude....you watch too much South Park :P
no such thing as too much :dontcare: :P
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Hey, it happened with ET.
So they're touching up effects...blast it. Maybe I'll wait until a set hits clearance.
So, you'd rather that the original saber effects were left in, so that it looks like they are fighting with coloured fluorescent tube bulbs, lol?
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So, you'd rather that the original saber effects were left in, so that it looks like they are fighting with coloured fluorescent tube bulbs, lol?
speaking about sabers, I do hope they'll fix Luke's 'teal-white' saber and then 'green' saber from Ep IV ... kinda feels strange when it jump colors like 3 times throughout whole movie :P
If I recall correctly from VHS I had many years ago, it was very faint blue all the time but since ILM shoved some silly scenes during Luke and Obi arrival at Mos Eisley and not so silly fight sequences over the DS, Lukes saber became tealish, light blue and even completely white :lostit:
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speaking about sabers, I do hope they'll fix Luke's 'teal-white' saber and then 'green' saber from Ep IV ... kinda feels strange when it jump colors like 3 times throughout whole movie :P
If I recall correctly from VHS I had many years ago, it was very faint blue all the time but since ILM shoved some silly scenes during Luke and Obi arrival at Mos Eisley and not so silly fight sequences over the DS, Lukes saber became tealish, light blue and even completely white :lostit:
Actually, the saber was originally almost totally white. But yes, the green was weird. But you know, somehow I doubt it'll get fixed.
So, you'd rather that the original saber effects were left in, so that it looks like they are fighting with coloured fluorescent tube bulbs, lol?
That's why I have the DVD set with the theatrical versions. ;)
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the reason ANH's take on luke's saber was white-ish was 'cause the FX guys and lucas were Noobs at the time. they were dropping the "plasma" over a Lucite Rod (used for the actual fencing scenes), and didn't quite match it up. even in his anniversary edition, they weren't right, yet. even vader's saber was only mediocre. you can still see the jump when they have the actors freeze so they can switch out to the rodded handles. and what do you mean the green was wrong? you mean in RoJ? I heard that was a screw up in the FX department or something, and lucas rolled with it, making the Green Blade the "master's edition" color (though you can VERY obviously see the young padawans sporting a mix of green and blue blades in Ep 2's academy scene)
and, for those who HAVEN'T heard yet; the reason Mace's saber was purple? so Samuel L Jackson's momma could spot him in crowd scenes :P
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The green that we're referring to is in the DVD version of A New Hope.
(http://www.dvdcc.com/images/misc/swdvdcaps/anh-saber2.jpg)
Basically piss-poor editing on LucasFilm's part.
And in Return of the Jedi, that was NOT a screw up. They switched it over to green when the realized that blue didn't show up very well on Tatooine.
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somebody musta REALLY screwed up in between releases, then, 'cause there's not a drop of green in my ANH anniversary widescreen. i bet they did it during the "add Hayden in" releases.
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somebody musta REALLY screwed up in between releases, then, 'cause there's not a drop of green in my ANH anniversary widescreen. i bet they did it during the "add Hayden in" releases.
Yes. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: That and Han shooting after Greedo are my ONLY gripes about the special editions.
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HAN SHOT FIRST ! :funny
I think I still have that shirt somewhere :P
and, for those who HAVEN'T heard yet; the reason Mace's saber was purple? so Samuel L Jackson's momma could spot him in crowd scenes :P
I always thought about it like that : Samuel usualy shout's really loud really often... to be honest his movies are almost every time about a cop or gangsta that walks around and yells... but here comes Mace Windu, peaceful, quiet monk... he cannot yell, not eve talk loudly ... soooo... he weilds screming pink blade that yells in the crowd of greens and blues : 'I am sick and tired of those mother****ing sith, in this mother****ing movie, so I have this mother****ing P.I.M.P. saber !!!'
:funny :funny :funny
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Humorously, when it came to wrapping up on Revenge of the Sith, Samuel wanted to keep his lightsaber hilt as a memento. The crew made sure to engrave "BMF" on the pommel for him. :evil:
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I don't mind things like VFX touch ups, so long as they don't alter the movie's storyline. I just really hope that's all Lucas does this time...
And please for Gods sake make Han shoot first again...
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And please for Gods sake make Han shoot first again...
.... will never happen guys.
lucas had that done to make han look as though he dosnt attack without provocation, or something along those lines.
i agree it should be changed back, but i SERIOUSLY doubt it will :roll
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.... will never happen guys.
lucas had that done to make han look as though he dosnt attack without provocation, or something along those lines.
i agree it should be changed back, but i SERIOUSLY doubt it will :roll
He thought that Han shooting first tarnished his "rep" as a "good guy". He seems to forget that not only is Han Solo a PIRATE, Greedo had a gun pointed at his head and was about to shoot. Han wasn't gonna let that happen.
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guess he did this for kids so there would be no cold blood murders, especially from hands of the good guys, just look how he dumb downed prequels which are obviously aimed for kids - teenagers while original saga was for wider audiences, not only for kids who loves cartoon rabids or vivid pictures...
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guess he did this for kids so there would be no cold blood murders, especially from hands of the good guys, just look how he dumb downed prequels which are obviously aimed for kids - teenagers while original saga was for wider audiences, not only for kids who loves cartoon rabids or vivid pictures...
or it could be that because 20th century let lucas retain ALL rights that he felt that he should branch the storyline to any venue possible, but if you watched the interview between him and Seth McFarlane, he clearly stated that cartoons were his preferred media genre, hence allowing the family guy staff to allow them to do their parody episodes (that and he admits that his DVR is FULL of family guy)
i think it would have been pretty cool for the series as a whole to be done in animation, but i dont think it would have turned out to be what it is had that route been taken.
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Honestly, I don't find the prequels quite as crappy as everyone else does(for one thing, I don't hate Hayden, just the scenes with him and Portman and his addition to ROTJ), but I think the biggest problem with the prequels have to do with the terrible, terrible job done with the editing. Revenge of the Sith for instance should have been a half hour longer and given some more depth to Anakin's fall.
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Honestly, I don't find the prequels quite as crappy as everyone else does(for one thing, I don't hate Hayden, just the scenes with him and Portman and his addition to ROTJ), but I think the biggest problem with the prequels have to do with the terrible, terrible job done with the editing. Revenge of the Sith for instance should have been a half hour longer and given some more depth to Anakin's fall.
Hayden as an actor is good, what failed completely was the character Lucas wrote, Anakin should have been a good guy who is forced at some point to turn against his beliefs in order to save his beloved wife (tragic, forbidden love). i know it's all in the movies except one little tiny detail, Anakin being a good guy... he is fighting for good guys indeed, but he certainly isn't that good, murdered at least 50 tuskens, murdered disarmed sith who wasn't much of a threat after loosing weapon and both hands, disobeying jedi order, whining about Obi's teachings, rebelling jedi order, questioning jedi order teachings, motives, actions etc. etc. ... where's that great pilot and a GOOD FRIEND Obi told Luke about ??? all I can see in Anakins charracter is that he behaves like a spoiled child in EP II and even more spoiled child + teenager who hates life in EP III
btw. what even caused the crisis in EP II beginning and how was it connected to ep I, asking because I find EP I completely useless in whole picture (story wise)
The only prequel movie which is at least good is EP3 the rest is a waste of really good material for a movie in my honest opinion... prequels should be rewritten from scratch and it should be JJ Abrams who do it :P
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See, I see some of the friendship and great piloting in the beginning of Ep3. As for really seeing Anakin as a character, I use the Clone Wars series as a go-to. Plus, the animated Anakin is a better actor. :p
But yeah, Star Wars on Blu-ray...I will probably get it, but I'll wait for it to hit clearance racks.
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Hayden as an actor is good, what failed completely was the character Lucas wrote, Anakin should have been a good guy who is forced at some point to turn against his beliefs in order to save his beloved wife (tragic, forbidden love). i know it's all in the movies except one little tiny detail, Anakin being a good guy... he is fighting for good guys indeed, but he certainly isn't that good, murdered at least 50 tuskens, murdered disarmed sith who wasn't much of a threat after loosing weapon and both hands, disobeying jedi order, whining about Obi's teachings, rebelling jedi order, questioning jedi order teachings, motives, actions etc. etc. ... where's that great pilot and a GOOD FRIEND Obi told Luke about ??? all I can see in Anakins charracter is that he behaves like a spoiled child in EP II and even more spoiled child + teenager who hates life in EP III
btw. what even caused the crisis in EP II beginning and how was it connected to ep I, asking because I find EP I completely useless in whole picture (story wise)
The only prequel movie which is at least good is EP3 the rest is a waste of really good material for a movie in my honest opinion... prequels should be rewritten from scratch and it should be JJ Abrams who do it :P
He came off as being a power-hungry SOB - didn't give a f*ck about Padme after his fall - which was caused by his power-hungry SOBness (I mean...who could ignore Natalie Portman?!)
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quit spoiling RoS!!
no, I haven't seen it yet (i have to buy all six movies all over again). ditto with the trek movies (i only have about four of them on VHS, and VCR's are nearly impossible to find)
lucas has TOTAL controll, and thinks in that direction. after all, he disowned one of his sons for being Gay.
he probably intended Anikin's fall into darkness to be relatively SLOW (and palpatine is a VERY patient man). Plus, being the "vergence in the force" (which every dang Jedi and Sidious knew from the START). knowing George Lucas, this is exactly how he wrote the character.
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I have never heard anything about him disowning any kid. Plus he only has the one son, Jett. And none of his three kids are his really. He adopted.
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(for one thing, I don't hate Hayden, just the scenes with him and Portman and his addition to ROTJ)
That was probably the change that pissed me off the most. Hayden just didn't look right in Jedi.
And yeah all the romance scenes with Portman are either really corny or really over-acted, especially in Revenge of the Sith. Dialog sucks too...
He came off as being a power-hungry SOB - didn't give a f*ck about Padme after his fall - which was caused by his power-hungry SOBness (I mean...who could ignore Natalie Portman?!)
I thought he came off more as a whiny little bitch personally...
quit spoiling RoS!!
no, I haven't seen it yet
Really!? You know it's been out since '05 right? :P Despite the complaints you read here for the most part it's really not that bad, the battle between Anikan and Obi-Wan in particular is pretty cool, and so is the beginning. Spike TV likes to play all the Star Wars movies a lot of the time, you can probably catch it on there sometime soon.
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I'm gonna buy it if they redid the spacebattles. If the spacebattles or ship stuff are still old, fuck it. I just want a compleet new cgi spacebattle like in revenge of the sith.
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For a complete review of the prequels i advise watching red letter media's reviews. He pretty much tore them a new one. Funny too.
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I'm gonna buy it if they redid the spacebattles. If the spacebattles or ship stuff are still old, fuck it. I just want a compleet new cgi spacebattle like in revenge of the sith.
call me heretic or real old school heretic but I liked RotJ space battle over RotS space battle :P RotJ seemed much more 'realistic' if you can call it a space battle in a movie about fictional galaxy and fictional conflict :P I would hold the biggest grudge to Lucas if he would even touch single laser in RotJ turning it into that cheap cgi shi* RotS became over a decade after shooting RotJ...
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Revenge of the Sith's space battle was hardly much of a battle. We saw maybe a small portion of it, and it was far too busy. And it's enough that they added in the CGI stuff on the Death Star in A New Hope.
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I liked RotS's battle myself. Just they would've shown more and parts of greater relevancy - that being said the part where a Venator is engaged in a broadside firefight w/ the Invisible Hand is balls.
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They don't need to add stuff or change stuff in "return of the jedi" or whatever.. I just want to remove the old models and change it into a fresh and new cgi. What's the point of buying bluray if old models are used.
Cool nebulon b frigate next to a star destroyer blasting at each other in full glory would be great instead of that old fx where white dots are shielding etc...
Or the battle of hoth could be changed as wel. Instead of the old fx were the AT-AT are sluggish and choppy in movement could be changed into a smooth one..
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my only thing is that anakin aged between ep I and II.... but padme didnt... :facepalm:
that has always bugged me
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my only thing is that anakin aged between ep I and II.... but padme didnt... :facepalm:
that has always bugged me
Easily explained. There's a great deal of growth that happens between the ages of 9 and 19. Not quite as much between 14 and 24. Unless you think Lucas should've required Portman to get a boob job so she didn't still look 14. :p
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Easily explained. There's a great deal of growth that happens between the ages of 9 and 19. Not quite as much between 14 and 24. Unless you think Lucas should've required Portman to get a boob job so she didn't still look 14. :p
or just had an actor that actually WAS 14, then hired portman, wich would have made a hell of alot more sence
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or just had an actor that actually WAS 14, then hired portman, wich would have made a hell of alot more sence
You act like Lucas had this all planned out. lol
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im going to play my "dartboard" card and run away.
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-20100085-1/lucasfilm-changes-original-star-wars-trilogy-again/?fb_ref=fbrecB&fb_source=home_multiline
You know...I think I'll let ol' Jean-Luc speak for me here.
(http://www.avatarhosting.net/pics/12714/picardfacepalm.jpg)
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Nooooo !!!! Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo !!!!!!!!!!!!! now I regret I can't throw George down the shaft Vader threw the Emperor.... I don't know why he's doing it ... does he really think people are so stupid ? was that scene really so hard to understand... also no matter what they do to ewoks it won't help :P
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The Ewok eye blink is actually a change that is GOOD. Vader saying "Nooooo" is...well, unnecessary. Wouldn't that deep baritone have alerted the Emperor that something bad was about to happen to him? I will say, however...it sounds a helluva lot better than how he said it in Revenge of the Sith. CGI Yoda in Phantom Menace? Hell yes. The puppet in that movie looked like crap. Obi-Wan's new Krayt dragon imitation? What was wrong with the first one? And the newest Han vs Greedo...honestly, in this one, you blink, you miss Greedo's shot...still not right, but a damn sight better than the first time he changed it.
One thing I will say...I was rewatching A New Hope the other night on DVD(the special edition version) and when it came to the TIE fighters vs. the Millennium Falcon scene, there were very, VERY obvious matte shots that weren't cleaned up. I hope that'll be fixed for the Blu-ray...
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shadow: wait a minute, they STILL haven't cleaned up those bloody squares around the TIE's ??!
*facepalm*
compared to the ORIGINAL yoda muppet in ESB, the one they used in ep 1 looked pretty dang good (and yoda actually looked YOUNGER, for once)
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shadow: wait a minute, they STILL haven't cleaned up those bloody squares around the TIE's ??!
*facepalm*
They hadn't for the most recent DVD releases(which is where Luke's lightsaber in ANH was inexplicably green), but hopefully they will for the Blu-ray. I mean, if a fan working on something in his spare time can do that, why can't LucasFilms and ILM?
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They hadn't for the most recent DVD releases(which is where Luke's lightsaber in ANH was inexplicably green), but hopefully they will for the Blu-ray. I mean, if a fan working on something in his spare time can do that, why can't LucasFilms and ILM?
BUDGET
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most of space scene bear those damn squares (most obvious examples are already mentioned Tie's vs. Falcon, Luke's departure from Hoth / arrival on dagobah, various shots of asteroid field, various ROTJ shots ...
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Mr SW himself has made a last minute change in a scene where the emperor is shooting lightning bolts at luke in ROTJ dialouge is added to vader
http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/nooo-george-lucas-makes-more-changes-original-trilogy-191605319.html
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either Greedo is a blind sucker or hes a loose cannon ... it's a real waste to miss from point blank range while being a bounty hunter ... George prooved again he lacks common logic ... not to mention the Noooo ! Noooooooooooooo !!! scene ...... :picardfacepalm: :picardfacepalm: :picardfacepalm: :picardfacepalm: :picardfacepalm: :picardfacepalm: :picardfacepalm: :picardfacepalm: :picardfacepalm: :picardfacepalm: :picardfacepalm: :picardfacepalm: :picardfacepalm: :picardfacepalm: :picardfacepalm: :picardfacepalm: :picardfacepalm: :picardfacepalm: :picardfacepalm: :picardfacepalm: :picardfacepalm: <Jimmy, is there a limit of use of these ??? >
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I will say though, this iteration of Greedo shoots first, he shoots by maybe a millisecond faster than Han. Blink fast enough and it's almost like Han shot first anyways. :funny
I just wish someone at LucasFilms had the guts to say, "George. No. No, no, no." Ewoks and other aliens blinking? Great! Makes sense! Vader saying, "No...NOOOO!!!" right before tossing the Emperor doesn't. I mean, in a way it does, but seriously. Palpatine would have to be pretty damn high on hubris tower or f-ing deaf to not hear that deep baritone and realize that his plan is about to head deep south.
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you know to be honest it took 7 or 8 times watching the remasters to realize that greedo actually shot.... when i realized it i was like "HWUUUUUUUH??"
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That's because, despite the backlash, Lucas doesn't want to make it back the way it was, but in order to "appease" the fans, each re-release, the gap between when Greedo shoots and Han shoots gets smaller.
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Arggh...if he wants to make us all happy...
MAKE HAN SHOOT FIRST! it's that simple.
This entire sh!t about Vader also...well sucks, While it adds to the dramatic effect, well let's just say...I agree with Shadowknight
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http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/nooo-george-lucas-makes-more-changes-original-trilogy-191605319.html
this irritates me
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http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-talk/nooo-george-lucas-makes-more-changes-original-trilogy-191605319.html
this irritates me
You're about 5 posts too late on that one :P
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Derp
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For the changes, I don't mind the first 'no' but the second one turns me off.
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Well, I think the sound samples are un-finished because of the crackly audio, but still unnecessary like 99% of Lucas' changes.
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Well, I think the sound samples are un-finished because of the crackly audio, but still unnecessary like 100% of Lucas' changes.
Changed for truth :dontcare:
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Changed for truth :dontcare:
lol true enough. The changes that don't tick me off are still unnecessary.
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:facepalm:
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I don't get it ... why they couldn't revert it to original scream ??? each 'improvement' they've done (1997 SE, 2004 SE, 2006 DVD) was worse with this one being so far the worst ever ...
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I don't get it ... why they couldn't revert it to original scream ??? each 'improvement' they've done (1997 SE, 2004 SE, 2006 DVD) was worse with this one being so far the worst ever ...
Indeed. It doesn't even sound like a sound an animal could make, much less poor old Obi-Wan. His poor vocal cords.
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Sounds more like a gay barfly having a crisis in a rave party.
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or the sound of mating cartoon rabid while being drunk (JAR-JAR) :D I guess Obi got sentymenthal then ... or he knew even Tuskens couldn't stand jar-jar :funny
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"meesa comins to kills youuus!!"
*runs*
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LOL
First one explains a lot as to why Vader is never shown sleeping. I mean, could any of us go to bed if we knew we'd have a "sparkly glowy" Jar Jar standing by our bed?
OMG, I freakin KNEW IT! No one's that retarded without some ulterior motive! Well played Mr. Binks. Well played.
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Here are the changes that Lucas SHOULD'VE made!
1. Reinsert Han shooting Greedo, without Greedo firing a single shot...IN HD!!!
2. Get rid of the obvious matte painting goofs around the TIEs.
3. Make Obi-Wan use a proper animal growl instead of something that sounds like he dropped a rock on his foot. Just a slightly modified Wookie growling noise would have been great, or even putting back in the original sound from the theatrical 1977 version!
4. Putting Sabastian Shaw back in at the end of ROTJ...IN HD!
5. Putting the ghost of Qui-Gon Jinn in the end of ROTJ, standing on the other side of Ghost Obi-Wan, to properly tie the 3 trilogies together.
6. Editing TPM so that Jar Jar is killed off in the very first minute of his appearance! :D
As for a few changes that Lucas has made:
1. Vader's new NOOOO! is completely not needed or wanted as it reduces the redemption aspect of the scene dramatically.
2. Jabba's door is now stupidly too big.
3. Obi-Wans' new animal noise. (see above)
Damn you to Dagobah Lucas! :nono: :argh: :sad: :cancelled:
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Here are the changes that Lucas SHOULD'VE made!
1. Reinsert Han shooting Greedo, without Greedo firing a single shot...IN HD!!!
2. Get rid of the obvious matte painting goofs around the TIEs.
3. Make Obi-Wan use a proper animal growl instead of something that sounds like he dropped a rock on his foot. Just a slightly modified Wookie growling noise would have been great, or even putting back in the original sound from the theatrical 1977 version!
4. Putting Sabastian Shaw back in at the end of ROTJ...IN HD!
5. Putting the ghost of Qui-Gon Jinn in the end of ROTJ, standing on the other side of Ghost Obi-Wan, to properly tie the 3 trilogies together.
6. Editing TPM so that Jar Jar is killed off in the very first minute of his appearance! :D
1. Agree TOTALLY.
2. Definately, if your gonna go and make it HD, tweak the durn models to look good in said format
3. i agree with the latter point, put the original back in.
4 & 5, i agree with the both points, HOWEVER, if put in Qui-Gon, some would argue that the actor from the prequels should be kept for some dumbass continuity purpose... BUT! putting the "younger" Anakin in contradicted that little basic logic of life called AGING. so yea, it was a stupid idea to begin with.
6. nah... just have him executed in the scene with the gungan council.... place... and have them hand Obi-Wan & Qui-Gon a friggin map... or hologram... thing.. (idk, its been YEARS since ive seen them)
im just thankful that paramount hasnt been this retarded and foolhardy with the TMP movies.... i would f*cking riot if they touched those movies to this extent.
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im just thankful that paramount hasnt been this retarded and foolhardy with the TMP movies.... i would f*cking riot if they touched those movies to this extent.
Not to mention that when it came to the TOS Blu-rays, you can choose between the remastered effects or the original effects.
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am i the ONLY one that thought Jar-Jar was actually funny??! AND got both the parody intended, and the fact that they got crap past the radar? am I the only one that likes comedy relief?!
good grief, people, your treating the guy like both The Scrappy and The Wesley. feels like I'm the only one that got the joke!
as for everything else, this is why i kept my original version of RoJ.
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NOTHING will replace my widescreen format original VHS Empire strikes back, don't care how old it is it will all ways retain a special place in my heart.
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am i the ONLY one that thought Jar-Jar was actually funny??! AND got both the parody intended, and the fact that they got crap past the radar? am I the only one that likes comedy relief?!
good grief, people, your treating the guy like both The Scrappy and The Wesley. feels like I'm the only one that got the joke!
as for everything else, this is why i kept my original version of RoJ.
I'm going to gather and say yes...you are the only one...:P
I didn't care too much for the prequals to begin with...for me it's like we KNOW what happened to begin with why do we need to be told all over again?
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am i the ONLY one that thought Jar-Jar was actually funny??! AND got both the parody intended, and the fact that they got crap past the radar? am I the only one that likes comedy relief?!
good grief, people, your treating the guy like both The Scrappy and The Wesley. feels like I'm the only one that got the joke!
as for everything else, this is why i kept my original version of RoJ.
i got the "rasta" side joke... but that voice..... ICK.
and yes KC there were moments that i DID in fact laugh
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I was seven when TPM came out, and yes I did laugh. Now though... not so much.
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I think the big backlash against Jar Jar is the fact that he was the first fully-realized CG character Lucas pulled off and instead of being bad-ass or something awesome, we get a doofy jamaican stereotype with floppy ears.
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Exactly ... look at Gollum, while he's not entirely serious character (sometimes he's kind of a comic relief) he certainly is not a dumbass who just walks around, speaks like he's got highest level of mental disorder and walks into crap ... his character was put into the book for purpous, Jar-Jar was well .... pointless, Even Chewie was funny but in a cool way and what's most important he got only few funny moments, it wasn't like 'Chewie walks in and we laugh for 2 hours'
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What's worse is that Jar Jar has pretty well branded the entire Gungan race as clumsy idiots. This is just not true. For example, the Wii version of The Force Unleashed challenged that misconception with Kleef, a Gungan bounty hunter/mercenary. (http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20081221191737/starwars/images/e/ea/Kleef.jpg)
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I got this on Blu-Ray yesterday. Its beautiful
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Bit gutted though that after all the hype of deleted segments, they aren't in the actual movies, unless I'm missing something?
There's also a couple of nitpicks I would have liked to have seen fixed, but overall, the original trilogy look and sound amazing!
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Bit gutted though that after all the hype of deleted segments, they aren't in the actual movies, unless I'm missing something?
There's also a couple of nitpicks I would have liked to have seen fixed, but overall, the original trilogy look and sound amazing!
Most deleted scenes are deleted for a reason.
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Well, what's the point in them restoring said scenes and drumming up a big hype if there isn't an option to watch the movies with them in? Silly in my opinion.
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Well, what's the point in them restoring said scenes and drumming up a big hype if there isn't an option to watch the movies with them in? Silly in my opinion.
maybe in 4 years theyll go back and change that
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Well, what's the point in them restoring said scenes and drumming up a big hype if there isn't an option to watch the movies with them in? Silly in my opinion.
They did no such restoration on any deleted scenes. Watch them. Unfinished effects, worn down film. These are cut for a reason.
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I have watched them, perhaps not all of them are of good enough quality, but at minimum the 'Luke completing his lightsaber' one is. Even if quality is an issue, they still could have taken some time to work on them in my opinion.
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I've seen the Luke completing his lightsaber one online, and I have to say, I don't want it in the movie. It ruins the pacing.
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The people that have bought it, so... how are the visual FX? Are all the spacebattles redone?
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no, they left them as they were in DVD edition
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no, they left them as they were in DVD edition
Including not cleaning up the matte lines?
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I've only seen empire strikes back and didn't noticed matte lines around TIE's or planets so I guess they got rid of 'em
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My only problem is Lucas' obsession with going back and screwing with the original trilogy. I don't mean the restoration bits but adding in new scenes and stuff like that.
The films have stood the test of time, so why does he feel the need to go back and "enhance" them? I wonder if he's not just seeing how far he can push the whole "how many people will still buy Star Wars after I wipe my ass with it" thing. But maybe that's just me although I know there's more than a few people who feel the same.
To me it'd be like Paramount "enhancing" the older Star Trek movies with CGI and what not. While I'm sure it could look great there's still a lot to be said about watching a movie in its original form. /rant :hithead:
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the first reason lucas gave for redoing bits in the 97 SE was that he was putting stuff back in that he either had to cut (Han running into skinny Jaba at the ship was one), or couldn't film due to budget constraints.
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I was disappointed to see that none of the deleted scenes got back into the movie in remastered condition... It would be cool, jsut look at Lord of the Rings, special edition was quite nice, a tad too long for my taste but still nice, the best special edition I've ever seen was Aliens and Alien 3 with A3 being completely different and way better movie than original theatrical edition.
Gotta admit Luke's lightsaber construction scene would be completely out of place in ROTJ and would ruin either pacing and introduction of Luke.
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My only problem is Lucas' obsession with going back and screwing with the original trilogy. I don't mean the restoration bits but adding in new scenes and stuff like that.
The films have stood the test of time, so why does he feel the need to go back and "enhance" them? I wonder if he's not just seeing how far he can push the whole "how many people will still buy Star Wars after I wipe my ass with it" thing. But maybe that's just me although I know there's more than a few people who feel the same.
To me it'd be like Paramount "enhancing" the older Star Trek movies with CGI and what not. While I'm sure it could look great there's still a lot to be said about watching a movie in its original form. /rant :hithead:
You mean like the Director's Cut of The Motion Picture? Or the Remastered version of the Original Series? :angel
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Gotta admit Luke's lightsaber construction scene would be completely out of place in ROTJ and would ruin either pacing and introduction of Luke.
beg your pardon? people have been wondering WHERE the hell he got the new lightsaber at all. not only is this construction scene IN the novelization (and you know as well as I do, whatever lucas approves for paper becomes canon), plus, it makes it official that constructing your own lightsaber is the right of passage between "padawan" and Master
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Stuff like Director's Cuts and TOS remastered are fine. I'm talking about when they get so caught up in "fixing" things that it takes away from the film as a whole. *Spoiler* (Vader's new "NOOOOOO" in RotJ being a glaring example imo).
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Well he didn't buy it in walmart :P it IS obvious he constructed it ;) I'm not sayiyng the scene would suck in the movie, I'm saying it would require complete remake of C3PO-R2D2 scene when walking to Jabba's palace and talking about Luke's whereabouts as well as the rest of the party cuz we do see both of them in the lightsaber construction scene right ? the scene of R2 and 3PO conversation is almost narrative, like they want to introduce us to what is going on right now... in other words those two scenes put in the beginnning would make no sense at all.
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Wtf, they haven't remastered anything? No new graphics?
I was expecting that they cleaned the old rubbish and did a complete new cgi... Why should i buy it then..
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Wtf, they haven't remastered anything? No new graphics?
I was expecting that they cleaned the old rubbish and did a complete new cgi... Why should i buy it then..
If they did that, then I wouldn't even buy it at a bargain price. Hell, if they did that, I wouldn't even take it as a gift. The classic effects were fine. All I'd want is for them to work on fixing the matte lines around the fighters.
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Then you could watch the dvd's on a bluray upscaler.. 80 euros for something that is identical the same is just plain stupid.
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reading all of this i now have come to two realizations....
1. I SERIOUSLY doubt ill get this
2. after reading this, im GLAD shatner took a shot at lucas.
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Then you could watch the dvd's on a bluray upscaler.. 80 euros for something that is identical the same is just plain stupid.
Sometimes visuals are not as important as sound, Bluray version has completely remastered audio. Personaly I would hate if they replace whole Battle for Endor with CGI scene, while I have nothing against CGI it would make the movie focus on the special effects rather than plot, just look how meaningful was the original saga, every scene had it's place and done it's job really well while in prequels there's almost no story ... just special effects, tons of CGI models, 99 % of movie rendered ... that's what killed prequels. Besides it's nice to look at those 'old rubbish' that were 'pinnacle of cinematography special effects' before most of us were born ;) and to be honest they still look damn impressive even compared to CGI
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Wtf, they haven't remastered anything? No new graphics?
I was expecting that they cleaned the old rubbish and did a complete new cgi... Why should i buy it then..
^ Doesn't understand how important the original versions are in terms of cinematic history. :(
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Its my opinion and i'm not the only one.
If i watch the space battle of revenge of the sith, i get blown off my socks.
I like the old movies more than the new ones but what does it matter if they upgrade the space battles? You have the old stuff on vhs or on dvd so that's great, why not make it special and do a complete upgrade on bluray.
You have to look on the web and see how much people are disappointed in this. I even read on multiple sites that more than 40% of pre-orders were cancelled because of this.
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if you watch on secondhanded sites of multimedia, you can already see the bluray boxes been sold because people thought it would be visual remastered..
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People weren't disappointed because they didn't re-CG the space battles. People were disappointed because Lucas has once again ruined film history.
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People weren't disappointed because they didn't re-CG the space battles. People were disappointed because Lucas has once again ruined film history.
This.
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Just watched A New Hope on Blu-Ray. Thank god for Blockbuster having it to rent. God, there are pluses and minuses to this release. On the pluses, the time between Greedo and Han shooting is almost negligible, the matte lines around the TIE fighters in the scene after the escape from the Death Star are much cleaner than the DVD release, and they removed that stupid grunt that Leia made after Luke grabbed her after Han ran after the stormtroopers that they added in the DVD release. On the minuses, Obi-Wan's new krayt dragon yell is so damn stupid sounding, the Jabba scene STILL looks crappy, and the new rocks they put in front of Artoo when he's hiding from the Sand People is so fake looking it's painful.
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After reading all of this, i went last night to a friend which had bought already the last three secondhanded on bluray.
I agree with everything that shadowknight said except for the leia part.
First of all, i wasn't impressed, we were even shocked for a moment when we heard the yell of obi wann. We all said "wtf". It was more like a handicap person that was trying to shout. Again the greedo part, the lightsabers were still crap and also the tips were just flat. Jaba also looked crap. THe end scene was even so sharp for a moment that we just started to see the plastic on r2d2 and c3po. We ended by saying "damn.."
We bought ourselves some food and watched the second movie and damn.. The choppyness of the at-at was still there, the fighters flying over the landscape was still like a tv were some bous are hanging toy ships in front of it. We didn't even completed the movie because everyone was disappointed.
How long did lucas did for this junk? Too long, and it even god worse. Buy yourself the damn dvd's or keep watching the old stuff, this new stuff is crap.
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After reading all of this, i went last night to a friend which had bought already the last three secondhanded on bluray.
I agree with everything that shadowknight said except for the leia part.
First of all, i wasn't impressed, we were even shocked for a moment when we heard the yell of obi wann. We all said "wtf". It was more like a handicap person that was trying to shout. Again the greedo part, the lightsabers were still crap and also the tips were just flat. Jaba also looked crap. THe end scene was even so sharp for a moment that we just started to see the plastic on r2d2 and c3po. We ended by saying "damn.."
We bought ourselves some food and watched the second movie and damn.. The choppyness of the at-at was still there, the fighters flying over the landscape was still like a tv were some bous are hanging toy ships in front of it. We didn't even completed the movie because everyone was disappointed.
How long did lucas did for this junk? Too long, and it even god worse. Buy yourself the damn dvd's or keep watching the old stuff, this new stuff is crap.
First off, you LIKED the stupid added grunt that they gave Leia in A New Hope?
Secondly, of COURSE the walkers are choppy! You go and build a four-legged robot in the same way and make it move smoothly.
Third, people like you that only want everything CGI are the reason movies have gone to hell. Next thing we know, you'll be begging for them to redo the space battle between the Enterprise and the Reliant to make the Enterprise do barrel rolls.
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Third, people like you that only want everything CGI are the reason movies have gone to hell. Next thing we know, you'll be begging for them to redo the space battle between the Enterprise and the Reliant to make the Enterprise do barrel rolls.
Oh God... I hope they won't do that ... considering how much Nem failed in 'wanna-be-ST2-cool-CGI-battle-included'
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First off, you LIKED the stupid added grunt that they gave Leia in A New Hope?
Secondly, of COURSE the walkers are choppy! You go and build a four-legged robot in the same way and make it move smoothly.
Third, people like you that only want everything CGI are the reason movies have gone to hell. Next thing we know, you'll be begging for them to redo the space battle between the Enterprise and the Reliant to make the Enterprise do barrel rolls.
First off, i never saw her making the grunt or i ignored it. BUT i always loved the stormtrooper that bumps his head against the lowered door XD
Secondly, i ment the animation. Of course it needs to walk kinda stiff, but i ment the animation of the walker wasn't wow.
Third, mmmh wouldn't it be cool?
just kidding about that third part :D