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BC Forums => BC Modding => Topic started by: DJ Curtis on December 22, 2009, 03:39:31 AM
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Just to show I'm not a one trick Federation pony. :D
After many years recovering from the War, the Cardies have begun to rebuild.
This is not a refit, but an entirely new class of Cardassian warship. She will be armed to the teeth. No more Cardie cannon fodder.
I'd love to hear some class name suggestions. Ship name too.
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perfect :D fresh and seemly more modern while maintaining the cardassian style!
keep it going :D
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How does Orisha-class sound?
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Sankara-class?
Its great that you are designing a non-Fed ship for once, not that we dont love your known Fed ships by the way. Have a good christmas and keep up the good work.
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Kraxon Class
Soukara Class
Kovat Class
Terak Class
Aldara Class
Khural Class
Gurel Class
....great start with the mesh by the way Dj.
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Empok Class ?
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In honor to a Cardassian hero/leader who helped freeing Cardassia from Dominion : Damar class
Now this is really cool looking Cardassian ship, I like similiarities to new streamlined Fed designs like Sovereign ;) great job DJ, can't wait to see it textured.
my idea is to put small craft (similiar to hideki attacker) detachable from bottom-central part of the wing, kinda like captains yacht or aero shuttle ;)
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Ooooh!
I can't wait to blow it up! :D
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The Cardassian "I will eat you" Class. :)
Looks awesome DJ.
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Damar Class...named after Legate Damar who died as a martyr fighting for the freedom of the Cardassian people from the tyranny of the Dominion....
edit: damn shoulda read the whole thread first... me = lazy!!! oh well..me and Bones think alike...LOL
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Absolutely wonderful job DJ, especially love the spiral disruptor design.
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DJ is there anything you can't design? She is a beauty.
How about Obsidian class or, a more peaceful name perhaps reflecting a rebuilt Cardassia, Hebitian class?
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How about Jemar class
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some one said dimar class i think that's the one, the person who freed cardassia from the dominion ocupation :D
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Or perhaps Ghemor class?
Guess who has been reading up on all things Cardassian? :funny
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Why not:
DUKAT - Maybe, for the cardassians, his most famous captain.
VORNAR - Like many Cardassians, he was disillusioned by with the alliance with the Dominion and sympathetic to the Cardassian rebellion. Guarding the entrance to a Jem'Hadar ship when Damar appeared in disguise, Vornar recognized Damar, but pretended he did not, granting Damar permission to enter. DS9: Tacking Into the Wind
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Why not:
DUKAT - Maybe, for the cardassians, his most famous captain.
VORNAR - Like many Cardassians, he was disillusioned by with the alliance with the Dominion and sympathetic to the Cardassian rebellion. Guarding the entrance to a Jem'Hadar ship when Damar appeared in disguise, Vornar recognized Damar, but pretended he did not, granting Damar permission to enter. DS9: Tacking Into the Wind
Dunno about Dukat it would be like naming a ship after J. Stalin or A.Hitler, both are rather infamous so I guess Dukat is not worthy enough to name a ship after him ;)
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why dont you focus on the ship and not its name :roll
im sure curtis will find one. like he always does ;)
awesome. ive been waiting for some cardassians!
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why dont you focus on the ship and not its name :roll
I'd love to hear some class name suggestions. Ship name too.
He asks, we give. :)
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I like the ship design! It's like a modernised Galor-class, it still retains the Cardassian design features but still looks new and different. As for armed to the teeth, I'd agree; the Galors went down quicker than a Miranda.
As for the ship's name, I would agree that the Damar-class suits it best. Damar died for a 'new Cardassia' and this ship ressembles the new fleet of Cardie ships from after the war.
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ok how about for now, everyone please pause on any more name/class suggestions...
let's let DJ chime in to see if he likes any of the many suggestions thus far - if he isnt too fond on anything already posted, he can ask for more suggestions for it... :)
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I think I'll go with Damar Class.
Did some more modeling. Texturing this beast will be hard since the hull of a Cardie ship is so much different from anything I've done.
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YAY Bones wins out and ya know looking at those pic 9 the front view sorta reminds me of the intrepid class saucer and deflector design. Im loving this design DJ
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Thats a pretty sweet looking Cardie ship.
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I think I'll go with Damar Class.
Did some more modeling. Texturing this beast will be hard since the hull of a Cardie ship is so much different from anything I've done.
Hey that's cool, glad I could help ya ;) I'm sure you'll do great textures, like always :D
YAY Bones wins out and ya know looking at those pic 9 the front view sorta reminds me of the intrepid class saucer and deflector design. Im loving this design DJ
lol I thought the same when I first saw pic nr.9 - Intrepid :D
Mid-forward section reminds me one of my fav non-canon Cardassian designs - Bakrus, I liked that torpedo barrage it had
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Shooting for this to become one of your first 2010 "Modder of the Month" wins, DJ? :P
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Wow a new Cardassian ship? And an original design!? Well this is definitely exciting and she looks great well done DJ keep it up :D
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next one u should do should be kira or garak class lol
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remember this is December i think he is going for broke this year ROFL
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Ok, now THAT is one cool looking non-fed ship.
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That is one slick Cardie ship, and great name.
Also, a Garak class Cardie would be likely, but I doubt a Kira-class. Even if she helped save Cardassia, she's still a Bajoran. Heyyyy...we don't have any Bajoran ships in BC, do we? ;) lol, jk, I know you have way too much on your plate as is DJ.
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For a ship name (not class name, Damar sounds pretty good), how is the Kembali?
In Malay, that is "rebuild". (I'm half Malaysian.)
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Boy, maybe this is what that Kaldor class I've got around here needs..moderized..maybe then it would make more sense. Let me know if you want a battlecruiser to go with this.
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Nice lines to this design DJ.
So... the Canadian can model a Cardie as well as a Century!
Look forward to seeing more of this sleek Spoon-head ship. :funny :evil
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DJ Is a fellow Canuck? How did I not know this sooner?
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I really like that design :)
very nice work, as always!
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my one complaint, looking at this further, the deflector looks too imitation-fed. Oval shapped with a long neck..get rid of it. Make a slanted deflector that looks similar to the galor's but more advanced. Either that or a horseshoe shaped grille inside the resses that makes it look like some kind of dominion advancement.]
http://www.feymanshipyards.com/Adversary.html there's another advanced one in here where the guy used a cylon from the old bsg to creat a decent looking cardie for the obsidian order.
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DJ Is a fellow Canuck? How did I not know this sooner?
ya, he is from Canada eh? :P
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Oooh! Slick-looking ship you got there, DJ. Heh, shot 9 reminds me of the Intrepid Class.
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I never seen this post anywhere! Its about time someone did a Cardassian ship! The right way! And please, make Cardassian ships as they should be, strong weapons and decent shields lol. This seriously looks like the Obsidian Order got a hold of the Intrepid designs! God I love this and the Cardassian Union!
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I never seen this post anywhere!
it is in the forum news banner, with a link and all :P
News: Congratulation goes out to DJ Curtis for receiving BCC's December 2009 Modder of the Month Award for his work on the Damar Class "25th Century Cardassian Warship" (http://bc-central.net/forums/index.php/topic,6886.0.html)!
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I never seen this post anywhere!
it is in the forum news banner, with a link and all :P
News: Congratulation goes out to DJ Curtis for receiving BCC's December 2009 Modder of the Month Award for his work on the Damar Class "25th Century Cardassian Warship" (http://bc-central.net/forums/index.php/topic,6886.0.html)!
My bad. I need to pay more attention :funny
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Has there been any progress on this? I only ask because I thought you had to have a completed item during a given month to be eligeable for that months award.
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Has there been any progress on this? I only ask because I thought you had to have a completed item during a given month to be eligeable for that months award.
* Nominations must be given for a project currently being worked on
I believe this qualifies DJ Curtis for theaward in December 2009.
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so long as a nomination is being worked on during the month it is nominated, thats ok... however, it couldnt be nominated a second time again of course...
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Has there been any progress on this? I only ask because I thought you had to have a completed item during a given month to be eligeable for that months award.
Tsk-tsk. Starforce, you should know better than to ask for an WIP update :P
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I'm really pumped for this one, DJ!
Hope you're coming along strong.
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Wow, it has been six months hasn't it?
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Holy thread resurection!
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Wow, that is one BA Cardassian ship. This one deserves a righteous resurrection.
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DJ will post updates when he is able. That being said, this ship does look rather sweet.
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DJ will post updates when he is able.
:yeahthat:
please no one else post in this thread after this, unless it is DJ himself; no matter how long that may be until he does...
thx :)
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It's summer holidays! Woot! I don't like how my TNG frigate is shaping up, so I'm putting it on the backburner for a while and thought I'd pick up this ship since the thread was resurrected anyway, reminding me.
Haven't done a whole lot other than map out most of the body, so much of the ship now has the base hull texture on it. I also changed the warp engine glow and some hull lines. More updates to follow.
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A wee update, including an updated Cardassian union emblem of my design.
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Looking good DJ, I also forgot about this ship until the thread was resurrected. :funny
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Definately looks very streamlined - like the Cardassians realized that sharp angles aren't a good idea. Somebody could get cut on those things. *chuckles*
Cookie, sir!
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I love it :D and I can't say that I'm sad too see a new Cardassian design - they're the guys I tend to fight most when I play.
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Beautiful ship. Maybe this could be an Obsidian Order vessel. I don't think the Federation would allow the Cardassians to build up their military so soon after the Dominion War. Unless of course this was something being made as the war was coming to an end and they finished it so they could at least have some kind of a defensive vessel.
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...I don't think the Federation would allow the Cardassians to build up their military so soon after the Dominion War...
Early 25th century means at least 25 years. I think that's time enough.
On track, looks beautiful DJ!
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Early 25th century means at least 25 years. I think that's time enough.
On track, looks beautiful DJ!
I don't know, wasn't it like 60 years before the United States allowed Japan to build an offensive fighting force after WWII?
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I don't know, wasn't it like 60 years before the United States allowed Japan to build an offensive fighting force after WWII?
The Federation is not the United States, and the Cardassian Union is not Japan. While there may be some similarities to real world countries or organisations etc, does not mean they are based "identically".
One thing i'd say, is that there is ofcourse the possibility that in the 25th century, Cardassia may have applied for membership within the Federation. And thus, as Cardassians, they would likely want to continue to maintain a fleet of ships of their own. There is evidence of member worlds having their own ships or military services. Such as the Andorian High Guard, or the all-Vulcan crew of the T'Kumbra (note the lack of a USS in said name). The latter ship wasn't seen in canon either, only mentioned.
On topic: The ship is really shaping up quite nicely. It's like a futuristic, sleeker variant of the Galor class warships of the 24th Century. Will be interesting to see if you'll equip it with equally futuristic weaponry based on past Cardassian design.
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I don't know, wasn't it like 60 years before the United States allowed Japan to build an offensive fighting force after WWII?
Yea but after WWI Germany was limited on its armed forces and look what happened not even 15 years later.
If BC is canon, then obviously they could build a sizable force without the federation noticing. Plus if romulans sun does blow up that could disrupt the balance of power in the alpha quadrant causing a build of in Cardassian forces
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There is evidence of member worlds having their own ships or military services. Such as the Andorian High Guard, or the all-Vulcan crew of the T'Kumbra (note the lack of a USS in said name). The latter ship wasn't seen in canon either, only mentioned.
I've always thought this, a reason why Starfleet is so full of humans. And remember, STXI establishes that the Vulcan Science Academy was Spock's alternative to Starfleet. I like to think that the VSA had its own fleet of ships, of Vulcan design as well.
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I think it all depends on two things: 1)DJ's own history for his version of the 25th century(obviously different from the "canon") and 2) Just how well armed it is.
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:evil:
DJ That is sleeeeek :yay:
Love it :thumbsup:
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Glad you guys like the way it's shaping up. Please feel free to offer ideas and suggestions, as I've never done a ship like this.
Added some details.
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I would give the deflector dish a blue color like in this Galor shot I'm attaching (I think it would look really good with the hull color you have). The only other thing I can think of would be some windows on the top body section.
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Window on the top are planned. I will also experiment with that color for the deflector when I get to it.
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Nero: is that shot from TNG? I don't remember any of the Galors having blue deflectors in DS9. And aren't they more of a weapon emplacement? That's where the phasers always fired from. But I guess it could function as both. Perhaps the bright outlines are the phasers and the dark parts are the deflector? Or perhaps it's a cage over the deflector?
Perhaps you could do a variation on this, DJ. Something like a phaser emitter cage surrounding the main deflector. It might add some nice visual dimension to the "neck".
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My plan atm is to have that part serve as both deflector and a strong custom pulse weapon.
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DJ, I certainly hope this isn't your last alien ship. Most other modders overuse specs and such, producing a very CGI look. I have to say that your ships certainly feel the most visceral. The color variations and lighter (as opposed to harsher) paneling remind me of the good ole days of studio models. Which is why I fly your Season 1 Enterprise every time I pull out BC. I'd love to see some Romulan ships with your touch.
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like this? :P :D
This is an OLD model. I think I made this in 2005. It's Atolm's Shora, though not entirely accurate. Before anyone asks though, this model won't see BC. It's a mess from my "haven't figured out how to build a good unified mesh" days. lol
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Nero: is that shot from TNG?
It's just a generic publicity shot that I pulled from Ex Astris Scientia.
That Romulan ship looks a lot like the Griffin-class from Star Trek: Armada.
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like this? :P :D
This is an OLD model. I think I made this in 2005. It's Atolm's Shora, though not entirely accurate. Before anyone asks though, this model won't see BC. It's a mess from my "haven't figured out how to build a good unified mesh" days. lol
Hmm, you said "this model". Is it possible we'll see another iteration? Looks pretty freaking awesome. :)
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Nero: is that shot from TNG? I don't remember any of the Galors having blue deflectors in DS9. And aren't they more of a weapon emplacement? That's where the phasers always fired from. But I guess it could function as both. Perhaps the bright outlines are the phasers and the dark parts are the deflector? Or perhaps it's a cage over the deflector?
Perhaps you could do a variation on this, DJ. Something like a phaser emitter cage surrounding the main deflector. It might add some nice visual dimension to the "neck".
The deflector was recolored red on film, that's probably an unedited still picture of the model, that's also why most of the windows are just painted blue and aren't lit.
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Drex files has a great set of references for the Galor which has given me lots of ideas. I decided to go with a black and red scheme for the deflector after seeing some shots from DS9 and really liking that look over the blue. Thanks for the suggestion, though, Locke. Also added a bunch of windows and other details, etc.
Farshot---> Never built another. :thumbsup:
After I'm done making the textures in max, I'm going to go to Photoshop and see about giving the ship a slight bit of Cardie style weathering.
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Farshot---> Never built another. :thumbsup:
Oh I might like "we'll see another future iteration". I'm not implying you've made one, I'm implying will you make one.
I like that deflector scheme. Will the red parts glow and the black parts not glow?
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I decided to go with a black and red scheme for the deflector after seeing some shots from DS9 and really liking that look over the blue. Thanks for the suggestion, though, Locke.
Actually that was my suggestion... :hide
Anyways the black/red scheme doesn't look too shabby either.
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What role will she play? Destroyer, cruiser, battleship? She looks like a fast battle cruiser to me, maybe pocket battleship? If she can't outgun it, she can outrun it, if she can't outrun it, she can out gun in.
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If she can't outgun it, she can outrun it, if she can't outrun it, she can out gun in.
I like that philosophy. Sounds like a good objective for the hp, DJ.
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Looking good as always DJ. weathering will definitely bring it to life, thought she looks great as is so far. :thumbsup:
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The ship's role will essentially be that of Galor, but 25 years on; a backbone ship that meets the primary offensive and defensive needs of the Cardassian military.
Last update. I'm going to bed. :hithead:
I've got most of the minor edges etc. mapped. The rest of the textures should be fairly speedy, though the underside still needs lots of work, as you can see.
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She is looking fantastic DJ, I'm starting to think you're the master of the 25th Century. Ah, who am I kidding, I know you're the master of the 25th century :D
Might I suggest a name for this new class of warship? I was thinking, since this is a newer futuristic design, she could be called the Damar Class named after Legate Damar who died a hero saving the Cardassian people from the treacherous clutches of the Dominion. Since he died a hero and helped liberate the Cardassian Union during one of their darkest points in history, it makes sense to name one of their newest ships after him. Just an idea.
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in fact, that is exactly what DJ is calling it lol
he won the MotM award back in December for this project...
News: Congratulation goes out to DJ Curtis for receiving BCC's December 2009 Modder of the Month Award for his work on the Damar Class "25th Century Cardassian Warship" (http://bc-central.net/forums/index.php/topic,6886.0.html)!
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DJ she is a beauty, like Federation starship evolution, you've nailed Cardassian ship evolution too!
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Very nice cardie! Reminds me: I need to work on my own cardie fleet >.<
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this thing is awesome
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Thats just beautiful.
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Here's where I'm at. Did a bunch of work to the underside, as well as the bridge area. I also adjusted the color of the sensor pallets to blend in better with the overall hull. I also added a bunch of base hull textures to almost all of the little bits of hull that were unmapped, edges and the like.
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Awesome is an understatement! That thing is just gorgeous!
Even though I broke protocol, I'm glad I resurrected this thread. ;)
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It's coming along nicely. :)
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hella sweet DJ :D :yay:
forgive me if this has been mentioned already (and forgive my laziness to look back hehe :angel: :P)
what is the approx size of this ship? i wouldnt mind seeing comparison shots later down the road, next to a keldon or galor or whatever :)
also, what will the weaponry be like? armed to the teeth, im sure; but what are we looking at as far as torp launchers and compressors?
(i can see some compressor emitters, but i was just wondering the list)
not that it really matters either way, i was just curious...
and if this has been mentioned already in the thread, whoever quotes the post first gets some cookies from me :)
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Size wise, expect it to be roughly similar to the Galor. I haven't nailed it down exactly yet, but when I do I will provide some comparison shots.
As for the weapons, each of the little pyramids will be a disruptor. The main spiral wave disruptor will be stronger. The ship also has four forward torpedo launchers and two aft. Each will fire 2 or three torpedoes simultaneously. Except it to be reasonably maneuverable with good shields, but heavy armor.
I have to go to Edmonton to mark achievement tests all next week, so I'm going to try get the textures finished up tonight, and then tomorrow I'll do the HP and get it playable. If all goes well, you'll have this in your install on Sunday morning.
Here are the latest renders.
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update
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Looking slick there DJ. Can't wait to have this sucker in my install.
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You'll be happy to know then that it's in the game and damages well. On to the HP. might even be done tonight.
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Very good news. Can't wait. :yay:
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It's done. Just need to take some nice screenies, then i'll pack it up.. Can anyone do beta testing today?
In the game...
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I'd love to beta test.
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k. I'll send you a link when it's all packed up.
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I always thought the Cardassian ships were pretty ugly...but not this one. Great screenshot :)
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hmm something else needs to be done with that deflector... it just doesn't look right for some reason...
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deflector?
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hmm something else needs to be done with that deflector... it just doesn't look right for some reason...
Not changing anything at this point. :P
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where is the deflector? i wasnt even aware cardie ships had deflectors lol
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the red thing in front :P
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really? i thought that was the spiral wave compressor thing or whatever lol
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it's both... it has a weapon placement in the center but the rest is the deflector...
and DJ... no model changes needed there... just the texture looks a little plain.
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aaah i see... learn something new every day lol
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look closely. it's got a texture on it.
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I'd be very happy to beta test as well...
New to posting here, but I've read these forms for a few years.
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Same here, I love your ships DJ and I would be honoured if I could help you test her out. :bow:
(Ashamed to say it but, but I only recently found out about this forum, hence I haven't been around for that long. I have been visiting BC-files for quite some time thought)
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i missed that screenshot...just got myself a new wallpaper!
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Man, as much as i like your work, I believe this is one of the best so far. Really outdone yourself.
Awesome Job. :thumbsup:
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looks awsome, we really need more high-quality-non-fed-ships :D
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so its an early 25th century warship okay ... does it replace the galor class or could there be a class inbetween?
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Wonderfull job DJ! :yay: :yay:
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Thanks. I'll release it on the same day as my TNG ship. Should be pretty soon.
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I hate to be "that guy", but was this ship ever released? Tried finding it on BCFiles, without much luck.
Almost forgot about this ship, but then I started going through the list of past winners of the "Modder of the Month". Found several gems, I hadn't seen in a while :)
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I hate to be "that other guy", but DJ hasn't released any of his fine ships in quite some time.
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Probably because BCFiles sucks right now, which is why we need a master DL thread.
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Could be. As I recall, he had the Cardie, his TNG ship(can't remember the class), and his Sovvie at least about ready for release when BCFiles started sucking. At least the Sovvie was in beta...
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Looks great, I love it :thumbsup:
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Can anybody beta this one in the next couple hours?
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Can anybody beta this one in the next couple hours?
I can do that. I have a fresh install with only your Galaxy Pack and Beta Sovereign Class you made installed. I plan on adding more though, that's just what I have re-uploaded so far.
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He's alive!!! Woo hoo! :dance
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Oooh!!!! Pick me! Pick me! :yay:
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I can do it if you still need someone to beta
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For Fun :D
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Great shots. :thumbsup:
Makes you want to be a Cardassian. :D
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It's out. Thanks, Aces, for posting it.
I hope you guys enjoy having a Cardassian ship that shoots back.
Here's the link to the download thread:
http://bc-central.net/forums/index.php/topic,8548.0.html (http://bc-central.net/forums/index.php/topic,8548.0.html)