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BC Forums => BC Modding => Topic started by: Captain_Licard on June 07, 2010, 03:48:12 PM
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I saw this on the web and figured I wanted to do it. I have the TMP nx model made but I am having sketchup issues and will post it later.
until then:
(http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/heavycruiser_enterprise_proprefit.jpg)
edit: 100th post :woot:
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That looks a lot like Gabe Koerners Constitution variant.
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Looks like Gabe Koerner's reimagined Constitution but this one looks like refit (I recognize that deflector and vertical ?arboretum? windows on secondary hull, damn fine design ;)
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I just verified the source, it was designed by Gabe Koerner
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Cool stuff man. Can't wait to see what you do with it. :thumbsup:
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alright, got sketchup working, started modeling the ship
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Umm, you're probably going to need permission to do this most probably. Here is his MySpace if that helps.
http://www.myspace.com/gabekoerner (http://www.myspace.com/gabekoerner)
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Alright, on a different note, heres the TMP NX
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Oooooooooo, The Koerner-Prise!!! :bow:
And nice refit NX.
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An update to the connie, started saucer and engineering hull.
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Too bad JJ didn't use this instead of the steroid-prise... :hithead:
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I know that there was a finished and complete orthos(And several variations) of what you have in your first post but since his official site is dead you'll have to go off of whats on Bing/Google Images.
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I know that there was a finished and complete orthos(And several variations) of what you have in your first post but since his official site is dead you'll have to go off of whats on Bing/Google Images.
I'll scour the vastness known as the internet. in the meantime, Iv got the general shape of the ship made.
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Too bad JJ didn't use this instead of the steroid-prise... :hithead:
I disagree. As much as I love the Koerner-Prise, it wouldn't fit in with the smoothness of the new movie.
It's a good start though!
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Well, some people like the JJ-prise. I don't. :hide
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With you on that metalnick, should have been this design, or at least the aft part of the secondary hull of this design on the JJ movie version. that to me is what kills the JJ design.
Anyway, great start on her. This will be one I will be looking forward to. :dance
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Update, had to redo the whole thing due to mesh errors. here is it from scratch.
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I'm curious, what process are you using to model that? As in, how do you plan to continue? With how you're going currently, I foresee some possible problems.
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what I am doing is a very common method in for sketchup modelers. What I will do is create polies from the schematics, seperate the parts, and stitch them together. What I am probably going to do is build half of the ship and mirror it.
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Ah, from what I could see it looked as if it were essentially a huge unified set. I understand now.
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Can't wait to see the finished ship. I foresee an awesome ship. Cookied.
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Love the (TMP) NX-Class. More views, please.
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More pics of the TMP NX
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Update on the tmp nx, modeled in the phaser turrets.
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Update, started ventral saucer on connie
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Major update, more work on connie saucer
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Ive got good news and I got bad news, the good news is that I found a completed model on the internet and downloaded it. The bad news is it was designed for ST Armada 2 so it is really really REALLY!!! low poly.
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More pics of the TMP NX
Google "Loknar Class". There's your TMP NX-variant imho. I applaud the effort, but retrofitting the ENT-era NX-01 model, kitbashing other parts onto it, trying to merge other hulls onto the saucer etc, really doesn't make it look a whole lot better. Your TNG-era NX looks "tolerable" after the changes by baz.
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Google "Loknar Class". There's your TMP NX-variant imho. I applaud the effort, but retrofitting the ENT-era NX-01 model, kitbashing other parts onto it, trying to merge other hulls onto the saucer etc, really doesn't make it look a whole lot better. Your TNG-era NX looks "tolerable" after the changes by baz.
I am well aware of the existance of the Loknar Class, However, that does not apeal to me as a tmp nx-style ship because of dual deflectors and torp pod. As far as the 25th Century Refit, I created it because the site needed a refit that was more than just an aging kitbashed akira.
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Neither one of the images i've linked below (TOS version), show a dual-deflector or torpedo pod setup.
Just saying... there are ways of going about making a proper refit, and for the TMP-era, the Loknar Class is the closest you'll get to -either- the NX-01, or the Akira Class, while a 25th Century NX-Class, would essentially be a refitted or otherwise updated "Akira Class", in order to keep the design lineage, without completely rehashing the original style.
But seeing as this entire post is completely offtopic, feel free to ignore it. Just pointing out a few of my opinions on how to improve things without making it look "tacky".
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Heres an update to the connie, basically she almost finished, still alot of work to do with the nacceles and I have to build the deflectot, but here she is.
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Nice work..
I am all for low poly, but that model looks more like an early SFCII model than one for todays, engines.. smooth the mesh out a bit, and ur on for a winner..
good job :thumbsup:
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I prefer this version than the crappy red admiral version. How the red admiral version achieves warp without any visible deflector, i have no idea. The pylons are too long, mounted in a weird position, too.
(http://bc-central.net/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7509.0;attach=43422;image)
(http://bc-central.net/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=7509.0;attach=43408;image)
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I prefer this version than the crappy red admiral version. How the red admiral version achieves warp without any visible deflector, i have no idea. The pylons are too long, mounted in a weird position, too.
The Miranda Class had no visible deflector and yet it worked fine to enter/exit warp. As did many other non-standard canon ships.
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True...but I'd prefer all modern Starfleet ships to have deflectors.
I forget who the mesh-owner/artist was for this one, but this is where the NX-Class / U.S.S. Phobos subclass should be going in STO & elsewhere. My only nitpick, bring the secondary hulls about one-third to half way further forward.
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Sweet! Someone's taking on the Koerner Enterprise!
Licard, I've got quite a few large images of it from before he took his site down, so if you want them just PM me, I'm sure there around here... somewhere.
Oh, and I'm digging the TMP NX, though my only suggestion would be try to be "inspired" by TMP rather than just transpose parts, know what I mean?
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heres another ship Ive been working on that uses the 25th Century NX-Class refit as a base.
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we shall call it the ......... MIRANDAPRISE !!!! :yay: :bow: .... no.... seriously I doubt SFC would even bothr touching almost 200 years design instead of uprating 20 years old Akira ;) no real point in reviving this ... ship after such a long time on junkyard... sorry if it is too harsh... I have a soft (not) spot for NX class
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Thats fine, I...personnaly...quite like it. Oh well, not every bodies cup-o-tea(or coffee) this however, will probably be my last nx-like ship. I really am finding out that I don't have enough time so I may end up posting it on BC-Files under public domain meshes.
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Nice man. You can always use more TMP-TNG evolutions.
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Sweet. I like the Coto-Class, too. :samtarget: Hmmm...needs Maru type underslung secondary hulls. :dance
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Sweet. I like the Coto-Class, too. :samtarget: Hmmm...needs Maru type underslung secondary hulls. :dance
Ill work on a secondary hull. In the meantime, I adapted the weapons rollbar from the beta centauri
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cool stuff man.
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Yea, they look nice. Never was a big fan of Ol' NX either, but these look pretty cool.
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I was thinking, I want this ship really to be a destroyer, so why not add in the pulse phasers along the lines of the ones on the galaxy dreadnaught(you know, the bug antena lookin things) and a third, underslung naccele. Thoughts?
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Please no third underslung nacelle. I can see docking units for underslung Oberth-Class type (tubular or rectangular) multi-mission pods but no third nacelle. I can see a stump instead of the rollbar for mounting Nebula-Class, Luna-Class, or Ronin-Class overhead scientific / tactical modules.
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I'm in complete agreement with Hellsgate. The NX-01 design has already been sufficiently screwed up. No need for a pointless 3rd or even 4th nacelle.
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okay, so no third naccele, how about the pulse phasers? this is going to be a destroyer.
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I'm in complete agreement with Hellsgate. The NX-01 design has already been sufficiently screwed up. No need for a pointless 3rd or even 4th nacelle.
I don't know, If the model is done well an NX with 4 nacelles would look good but only in the original era.
(see 1st attached image)
However 3 is a no. its strangely odd to see kitbashes of the NX. The roll bar seems abit out of place, I think its becaue it a /^\ shape go for more of a Miranda shaped roll bar. ( 2nd attached image )
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Alright, made the roll bar more miranda-ish, also widened the torp pod a little bit
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and for the heck of it made a variant
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Looks ok. But i'd stick with the original version with the nacelles in the 'up' dorsal position. I'd have pulse phaser ports in the front (in the rectangular section above the front lip of the saucer where the navigation deflector should be.) The variant with the nacelles in the down position should be a freighter or science vessel minus the rollbar but with a Nebula type overhead module on a thick vertical EPS/ODN trunk.
(http://www.legionofgeeks.org/images/neb2.png)
(http://www.ussporthos.org/gallery/albums/userpics/Ronin_Class.jpg)
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the Gabe-enterprise, just SCREEMS, make me a Terran Empire vessel
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I want that quad-nacelle NX-prise! :dance :yay:
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I'd have pulse phaser ports in the front . . .
The only issue with that is pulse phasers weren't standard weapons on Starfleet vessels until the DS9 era. Even then, they were reserved for Defiant and her bretheren. Look at the Enterprise E: a perfect platform for high-powered weapons (quantum torpedoes anyone?) yet the designers didn't feel it was necessary to include pulse phasers.
And if anyone brings up the Reliant, then so help me . . . :evil:
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NX had plasma cannons
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The only issue with that is pulse phasers weren't standard weapons on Starfleet vessels until the DS9 era. Even then, they were reserved for Defiant and her bretheren. Look at the Enterprise E: a perfect platform for high-powered weapons (quantum torpedoes anyone?) yet the designers didn't feel it was necessary to include pulse phasers.
perhaps a little something of "artistic license" could apply... besides, this isnt something meant for anything onscreen so it little bit of bending-the-rules i think is ok lol :P just like the Achilles Class, which has pulse phasers...
anywhoo - going back ontopic...