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RE: BSG, Caprica, Blood and Chrome series topic discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #200 on: November 17, 2006, 06:12:55 PM »
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And if the first weren't cybernetic, ( robots ) then what were they?

I (usually) see cybernetic as machine/organic hybrids.
Most of the time humans with mechanical components (think Borg).

"Normal" robots are mechanical/electronic in my book.


I have always took cybernetic to mean, "mechanical", or "computer-based".

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« Reply #201 on: November 17, 2006, 10:49:54 PM »
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Interesting, but somehow I don't see them taking human form, just because they want to be Humanity 2.0.
And if the first weren't cybernetic, ( robots ) then what were they?

There also exists the concept of the Biorobot.

We are going to see a lot of that once we will decode the DNA. Then the "programmer" will be seating in front of his keyboard, roll up his sleeves, and with his 4 bits ACGT, will be chucking out design organisms.

Except that such an organic body, rather than allowing the brain to develop, which might be difficult or not even desirable, you create "normal" computational structures only with self grown organic parts. Neuronic motherboards with neuronic chips and neuronic computers, programmed like any other machine, linked to organic bodies made with code we copy pasted from nature itself.

And the best robot of course, is not the robotic screwdriver, or the robotic hammer, or the robotic tractor, but the human robot, which because we have shaped our tools according to our shape, can operate either the screwdriver, hammer, or tractor. Therefore it makes sense to make robots looking like this. And of course artificial intelligence is a target all of it's own.


Of course if we have SciFi where mechanical androids wonder if they are "alive", imagine what a biorobotic "organic artificial intelligence" thinks...

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RE: BSG, Caprica, Blood and Chrome series topic discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #202 on: November 18, 2006, 08:46:51 AM »
anyone watch 3x08?

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RE: BSG, Caprica, Blood and Chrome series topic discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #203 on: November 18, 2006, 10:31:15 AM »
Yeah, the Battlestar Valkyrie was rather sexy IMO.   :lol:

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RE: BSG, Caprica, Blood and Chrome series topic discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #204 on: November 18, 2006, 12:33:09 PM »
Yeah, I guess that explains where the shots of Saul with both eyes, and Bill on the conn of some other Battlestar came from.

On the whole of it, it was a bit passe. I can't say I was really disappointed, because I hardly got to watch the whole episode- but it did seem a bit lackluster. Perhaps when I see the whole thing, uninterupted, I can provide a better review.

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RE: BSG, Caprica, Blood and Chrome series topic discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #205 on: November 18, 2006, 01:51:46 PM »
the Battlestar Valkyrie seemed even smaller than Galactica.
Canon is what people argue exists on ships that don't exist.

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« Reply #206 on: November 18, 2006, 04:53:50 PM »
Wow.... I need to watch BSG tonight (comes on right after Jericho woo.)

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« Reply #207 on: November 18, 2006, 05:15:37 PM »
wow that was a cool episode. I liked the look of the battlestar valkyrie, it was a very good, dramatic episode. I quite liked it.

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RE: BSG, Caprica, Blood and Chrome series topic discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #208 on: November 18, 2006, 10:50:11 PM »
As usual, that was an excellent episode.  It really built Adama's character, too.  Now that he has a flaw he seems much more like a real person and less of a perfect role model.  Plus we got to see him get f*cked up! lol  (What an edge-of-your-seat scene that was!  Sheesh!).

Oh, and in case anyone wants them, here are some screenshots I took of the Valkyrie:

         

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RE: BSG, Caprica, Blood and Chrome series topic discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #209 on: November 18, 2006, 11:02:11 PM »
hehe yah that ship is really small.

btw you get any pics of that stealth fighter??
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« Reply #210 on: November 19, 2006, 12:53:16 PM »
I was a bit underwhelmed... the big bad dark secret wasn't as big bad or dark as I was hoping it was.

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« Reply #211 on: November 19, 2006, 07:11:08 PM »
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hehe yah that ship is really small.

btw you get any pics of that stealth fighter??
Stealth fighter?  Wasn't Bulldog just in a Mk VII Viper?

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RE: BSG, Caprica, Blood and Chrome series topic discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #212 on: November 19, 2006, 08:24:23 PM »
Didn't look like that to me.

It seemed to have only 2 engines in the very rear. One on top of the other.
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« Reply #213 on: November 19, 2006, 08:51:29 PM »
And compared to the "stealth" fighter they built on the Galactica, it obviously wasn't very stealthy, either.

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« Reply #214 on: November 20, 2006, 04:31:13 AM »
guess that's what happens if you're in constant radio contact with your mothership.

Any why didn't the first enemy contact finish bulldog off? Maybe because it wasn't a cylon ship and Roslin was right. The admiralty knew exactly where the stealth fighter would be, if they were trying to provoke a war without it looking like being their fault, I can't think of a much better way. Of course after you wing it like that it's going to be lit right up on Dradis.

The Stealth Star was definately not a mkVII viper.

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« Reply #215 on: November 20, 2006, 09:08:35 AM »
they probably didn't destroy it because they wanted to capture it and examine it.

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« Reply #216 on: November 20, 2006, 09:45:35 AM »
it was not a Mark VII, it had some  components, but i think it also had some characteristics of US planes (X-29, f-22)...

btw, I loved how they were going to put baltar's picture above the toilet... :P







Here's a picture of the valkyrie firing a ship-to-ship missile, as you can see, its quite different from the other 2 classes of battlestar we've seen...



you can get these images from here: http://galacticabbs.com/index.php?automodule=gallery&cmd=sc&cat=4

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« Reply #217 on: November 20, 2006, 09:55:13 AM »
sorry for double post, but this is pretty important IMO...

for one thing, if its a stealth ship, why is it showing up on Dradis? The stealth ship galactica built didnt appear on dradis.

Anyways, Here's the image of Three and the Beings-of-Light-wannabes from this week's episode. I'm wondering if this is going to actually be the most important part of the episode in laying down stuff for the future. As you can see, there are five lights, which I think may represent the final five models.






I think these five have something to do with the cylons being downloaded and reborn aboard the resurrection ship. They play a part somehow.

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RE: BSG, Caprica, Blood and Chrome series topic discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #218 on: November 20, 2006, 11:13:05 AM »
Huh, well I'll be.  I never noticed those people before. lol

And yep, that definitely isn't a Mk VII Viper.  Heh, guess I just wasn't paying attention to it.

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RE: BSG, Caprica, Blood and Chrome series topic discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #219 on: November 20, 2006, 02:47:58 PM »
dradus listed it as a 'steathstar'