Author Topic: A new TMP-era series/film? (Read 3062 times)

gclark03 · « **on:** July 08, 2008, 02:23:27 PM »

Would we like to see a new Star Trek production set in the 2270s or 80s, during the Klingon War? Personally, I'd prefer a mini-series about a Constitution refit (Ent-A sister ship?) fighting the war in the Neutral Zone, but a Star Trek mini-series has simply never been done before...

Anyway, what do you think about this era? Is it production-worthy in a time period when Star Trek XI is on the horizon and prequels are in vogue anyway?

Kirk · « **Reply #1 on:** July 08, 2008, 02:32:14 PM »

Does it matter, really?

mckinneyc · « **Reply #2 on:** July 08, 2008, 02:51:01 PM »

I would like to see straight to TV/DVD movies like BSG has and is doing. It would be great to see Enterprise B and C adventures and sort of fill in some gaps. Also how about the seeing the adventures of the Stargazer?

There is alot of scope here and we need the fans to be united and to push for something new and what they want to see.

Senator · « **Reply #3 on:** July 08, 2008, 07:51:09 PM »

The problem with prequels in my view, is that that they are not really that interesting. You know that everything has happened already and that everything will end up good.

Some of us, like Sci-fi as a mind expanding drug. Seeing new stuff, realistically (as in not "magically") framed that makes you say "wow, I haven't thought about that. But yes, why not. How would we go abouts it I wonder?" But what prequels do, is that take all this awesome technology and concepts, and they try to handicap it.
I've got no interest of seeing shittier versions of awesome things, I want more awesome things! It almost as if Trek is afraid of prodding into the future any more.

"Look, we have phasers, this is a story of a ship with shittier phasers!"
"Look, we have torpedoes, this is a story of a ship with shittier torpedoes!"
"Look, we have tractor beams, oh well, we don't have those any more"

Frankly, from TOS we went to TNG, and from TNG clearly we must go into a Next Next Generation series.

gclark03 · « **Reply #4 on:** July 08, 2008, 09:56:36 PM »

The difference with that era, during the war that we have almost no canon about between TOS and STIII, is that it doesn't have to end well for the main ship and its characters. This is why a miniseries would be best, especially one that covers the destruction of the ship with all hands aboard at the hands of the Klingons.

No temporal deus ex machina would be helpful in a miniseries, as there's no obligation to write years' worth of episodes and become more desperate for interesting plots as time goes on.

laguardia528 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 08, 2008, 11:48:37 PM »

the problem with an in-between series is, as Senator said, they try to take all this kick ass stuff, then dumb it down to fit the past. The huge gap in canon would be a great thing to be filled, but unfortunatley there doesn't seem to be anyone in showbiz who can take something that is already good and resist making it into their own interpretation/

blaXXer · « **Reply #6 on:** July 09, 2008, 03:42:24 AM »

We are already getting a Prequel next year. So, let's see how this works out and leave it at that for now, mmkay? Great, moving on.

undedavenger · « **Reply #7 on:** July 10, 2008, 12:06:51 AM »

Yeah, I agree with you Blaxxer. If people enjoy "historical" stories (pre-nemesis), they should read some of the books. I think that even if STXI is excellent and is universally received, sooner or later the only direction for Star Trek will be forward. The future. That is what it is supposed to be about, after all...

gclark03 · « **Reply #8 on:** July 10, 2008, 01:23:17 AM »

Wait...that reminds me...NOBODY said the Borg were completely dead, and what if they recovered after the destruction of their Unimatrix?

I could easily imagine a new, darker miniseries, set in the late 24th century, about the Borg steamrolling the Alpha Quadrant completely. (Why don't I write this?)

Anyway, the thread as it was has been answered, for the most part. Is the discussion worth continuing?

undedavenger · « **Reply #9 on:** July 10, 2008, 02:04:40 AM »

Yeah, but if they were to do something like that, the Borg have gotta change... I mean, they go on and on about evolving in the pursuit of perfection, yet they always send just one cube to assimilate the Alpha Quadrant, and they are pretty much wimpy since Starfleet has developed weapons that can destroy them rather easily. Compare Wolf 359 with the 001 Battle in First Contact. That Cube took a few ships down, but the Enterprise showed up and easily kicked the crap out of it. If you've read the TNG Relaunch novel "Before Dishonor", the borg cube in it could simply crash into a ship and "absorb" it mid-flight. Maybe assimilate people with no machinery evident to tip off the Federation doctors. A much sneakier, efficient Borg if you will.

"The collective must evolve"

086gf · « **Reply #10 on:** July 10, 2008, 02:10:47 PM »

Quote from: undedavenger on July 10, 2008, 02:04:40 AM

Compare Wolf 359 with the 001 Battle in First Contact. That Cube took a few ships down, but the Enterprise showed up and easily kicked the crap out of it.

Correction, I'd hardly call 500 ships "a few".

"...fought a four day running battle all the way to Earth."
"By the time the cube reached Earth some three hundred and twenty ships(out of initial 500) had been lost, most of them with all hands."

From DITL

MLeo · « **Reply #11 on:** July 10, 2008, 03:32:47 PM »

Was it in yellow?

lint · « **Reply #12 on:** July 10, 2008, 04:45:43 PM »

No, it is DITL speculation

El · « **Reply #13 on:** July 11, 2008, 12:33:10 PM »

Therefor not canon, so the original comment is valid.

086gf · « **Reply #14 on:** July 12, 2008, 01:16:02 AM »

Either way the fleet was atleast 3 times the size of Wolf 359 with around 75-85% loses by the end.

lint · « **Reply #15 on:** July 12, 2008, 01:38:08 AM »

And how actually did you come by this information?

blaXXer · « **Reply #16 on:** July 12, 2008, 07:17:52 AM »

DITL, I suppose. which is fortunately non-canon, being full of fanon and all that funny jazz.

You want canon info? Go to Memory Alpha.

baz1701 · « **Reply #17 on:** November 14, 2008, 10:17:20 AM »

Well since re-imagining is the hotest thing in Hollywood we will soon see a re-imagined version of TNG

David Tenant as Picard?

Dakota Fanning as Winona Crusher (like battlestar turn Wesley into a girl)?

Aeries · « **Reply #18 on:** November 14, 2008, 11:49:07 AM »

Quote from: baz1701 on November 14, 2008, 10:17:20 AM

Dakota Fanning as Winona Crusher (like battlestar turn Wesley into a girl)?

So crusher's kid is a lesbian... I'm sure there won't be any argument from some people... xD

In any case, I [for one] really can't wait to see this new movie coming out... as a prequel, despite some aesthetic 'issues' I may have with it, it doesn't look too bad... I mean, Sulu pulls out a Katana!

So let's watch that one THEN have the speculation and ideas. :3

Captain_April · « **Reply #19 on:** November 21, 2008, 07:50:08 PM »

Quote from: Aeries on November 14, 2008, 11:49:07 AM

In any case, I [for one] really can't wait to see this new movie coming out... as a prequel, despite some aesthetic 'issues' I may have with it, it doesn't look too bad... I mean, Sulu pulls out a Katana! So let's watch that one THEN have the speculation and ideas. :3

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