FC Sovereign vs Nemesis Sovereign...

[JimmyB76]

in Wiley's thread, there has been mention of the differences between the 2 Sovereign Class ships...

you know, i must embarrassingly admit, i never really took notice to the FC and Nem Sovereign Classes as far as how they are different...
to me, they seem pretty much the same - i was wondering if anyone could point out the differences?  please use as much reference material as youd can (pics, screenshots, schematics, etc)...  i am curious and would like to see how different they are (if it is very much so or just a few slight things) that i never took notice to before...  then again, i have a habit of missing things that are blindingly obvious sometimes lol

[Morgan]

The biggest differences are the twin torpedo launchers added aft of the bridge (a location I really don't agree with as they're inconveniently right above an airlock), the addition of phasers to the nacelle pylons, and also the warp nacelles were moved forward slightly.

I know DITL isn't exactly known for accuracy but the article "Sovereign Changes" over there is actually quite thorough about the differences.

[FarShot]

Rather than elaborate, I'll just point here.  If you read this article, you'll know everything worth knowing plus about 10x more. ;)
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/sovereign.htm

[Nebula]

Of course they never did update that article with the now released orthographic view of the nem sov.

[Lurok91]

And of course different bridges 

[Nebula]

what about the bridge?? it's the same... unless you're talking about the inside which only has a diff view screen and updated displays.

[Darkthunder]

what about the bridge?? it's the same... unless you're talking about the inside which only has a diff view screen and updated displays.

And the handrails...

[Locke]

All the colors in the Nemesis Sovereign were changed.  In FC, the colors were mostly blues and lighter reds (I think) and in Nemesis everything was deep red and brown.

[metalnick]

I've always liked the FC version better.

[Locke]

I've always liked the FC version better.

I very much liked the look of some parts of the Nemesis interior.  The conference room in particular.  It looked more statesman-esqe, which was important since one of her major roles was first contact duties and ambassadorial trips.

[Morgan]

On the whole I prefer the First Contact version, much better looking, but I would keep the nacelle pylon phasers added in Nemesis since they take care of a pretty bad blind spot. I'd probably keep the shuttle bay torpedo launchers as well but lose the ones added behind the bridge - the positioning just doesn't make sense, since any torpedoes stored there would be blocking the airlock right below the tubes...

[Nebula]

I doubt it blocks it... you could have a roof rail for the torps or the torp tunnel in the ship could be in the airlock chamber... the door and area around it looks like it has enough room.

[deadthunder2_0]

or it could be this design  where the torpedoes are transferred into the tube from the side

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