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Re: The Next Enterprise
« Reply #80 on: March 15, 2009, 02:32:01 AM »
if he done that, wouldn't he have to rework the whole model around again? I think leaving it the way it is for now would be good, then bring that design in an updated version if he feels it's applicable.

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Re: The Next Enterprise
« Reply #81 on: March 15, 2009, 02:37:49 AM »
Why exactly do you think you're bad at designing nacelles again? They're beautiful!

I can really see the decades lying between this one and the Century. You've done some awesome work here, as usual. ;)

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Re: The Next Enterprise
« Reply #82 on: March 15, 2009, 04:04:25 AM »
Well, it may or may not take alot of work to change, depending on how the polys are laid out and if it is worth his time. It all really depends on whether or not he thinks it looks more balanced that way and changing it will not screw up his mesh.

I think that balance would be perfect if the deflector was moved back just a tad.

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Re: The Next Enterprise
« Reply #83 on: March 15, 2009, 04:23:24 AM »
Its just gets better DJ, keep it up mate.

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Re: The Next Enterprise
« Reply #84 on: March 15, 2009, 08:23:46 AM »
But i think djs deflector would just fit nicely into the evolution. Making it more dedicated to the sov.

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Re: The Next Enterprise
« Reply #85 on: March 15, 2009, 09:02:43 AM »
Thanks all for the comments and suggestions so far.  I'm taking them all under advisement, save for changes to the deflector, with which I am very pleased.  I have made some significant modifications to the warp pylons, including an increase in the sweep angle, particularly along the rear edge.  I have also totally redone the connection points between the nacelles and the pylons.

The engines themselves have been dropped, moved back slightly, and brought inward about half their own width.

Also, I didn't mention before that ship does already have saucer separation ability, I'm just not really happy with how it looks yet though, so I haven't showed it off.  Here are some pix of the changes to the rear.  You'll note the connections are pretty different from anything that's probably been seen on previous ships.  I really wanted to retain the look of them being incredibly strong, without being overly fat or bulky.  i don't think there's any doubt they certainly look better than what was there. lol. :D  The one thing I will do to them yet is to add some polys here and there to smooth out the angles.

the ship kind of reminds me about rikers titan? what would be cool, if you put the same pylon setup from the jjprise? dont know of anyone would agree but just sticking a thought in. :D

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Re: The Next Enterprise
« Reply #86 on: March 15, 2009, 12:58:15 PM »
I don't think I'm going to push back the deflector, i moved the cutaway back because I wanted to lengthen the secondary hull, and pushing back the deflector would make that moot.

You can also see that I've changed the bridge area, reduced the spine a bit, and ditched the underwork on the bottom of the saucer.  It wasn't jiving with me so well.

Here's some updated shots, including where the separation plane is.

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Re: The Next Enterprise
« Reply #87 on: March 15, 2009, 01:13:07 PM »
ohh nice, like the way we can see the saucer sep there :D

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Re: The Next Enterprise
« Reply #88 on: March 15, 2009, 01:34:56 PM »
Man, saucer sep sure is in style. :D

I would like the deflector more if that center piece extended off into a torp launcher/yacht like on the Ent E.

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Re: The Next Enterprise
« Reply #89 on: March 15, 2009, 01:46:31 PM »
Neat-o!

I don't know why, but this, to me, looks almost like an evolution of my Endor-class starship.  :?

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Re: The Next Enterprise
« Reply #90 on: March 15, 2009, 03:59:19 PM »
if anyone has any ideas for the underside of the saucer, please share.  I'm a little stumped.

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Re: The Next Enterprise
« Reply #91 on: March 15, 2009, 04:06:15 PM »
You mean as far as details or form? It looks pretty good as it from where im standing ;)

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Re: The Next Enterprise
« Reply #92 on: March 15, 2009, 04:14:49 PM »
modeled details

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Re: The Next Enterprise
« Reply #93 on: March 15, 2009, 04:21:08 PM »
How about a few recessed windows like on the Sovie and the Raptor? It's really starting to grow on me by the way DJ.  :D

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Re: The Next Enterprise
« Reply #94 on: March 15, 2009, 05:06:10 PM »
u know what, if Dj keep's this up, we're really going to have a problem, there's only a limit on letters of the alphabet! lol

fantastic work DJ can't wait to play her!

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Re: The Next Enterprise
« Reply #95 on: March 15, 2009, 06:05:37 PM »
I would recommend something ala Voyager, like a large yacht of some type docked underneath...you could just model in the outline.

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Re: The Next Enterprise
« Reply #96 on: March 15, 2009, 06:44:13 PM »
*Ryan points to his previous post*

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Re: The Next Enterprise
« Reply #97 on: March 15, 2009, 08:44:14 PM »
I'm liking it more and more.

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Re: The Next Enterprise
« Reply #98 on: March 15, 2009, 09:15:25 PM »
Thanks for the suggestions guys.

I've been agonizing over a class name for days now.  For some reason its really important to me, because it really, in a way I think, can make or break a ship.  When I named the Century Class, I got lucky because I found a name that hit a few key notes... 1. it was of sufficient grandeur without being overbearing, cheesy, or overly self-important.  2. No other ship in ST had that class name.  3. It suited the elegance of the design.

The design of this new sip is quite different, both in terms of aesthetic and intention.  It's a little edgier, but not overly aggressive.  Where the soft lines of the Enterprise F really lent themselves to a soft and elegant name like Century, this ship is designed to look edgy and forceful, like it's leaning forward and ready to go.  This ship, in a sense, is a Pontiac, where the Century was more like a Buick.

Anyhow, the Class name I've decided on is Eclipse.  It meets the same criteria as mentioned above, and to me, is well mated in its meaning and tone to the design of the ship.

Some other names I strongly considered, but rejected were...

Magnus Class  -->Too Latin
Theseus Class -->Greek, which is overdone and cliche.
Odyssey Class -->same problem
Valiturus Class -->So Latin as to be a bit pretentious.
Nobel Class -->Too subdued, but would have been  easy to name ships of the line after Nobel winners.  I think I'll use this for a future series of science ships.
Hood Class --> Pays tribute to a British Admiral whom to me, doesn't stand out as a Prime example of a stand-up 25th century person.
Indefatigable Class -->Actually I really like this one, but I'm willing to bet a lot of people out there don't have a clue what such a big word means. :)

So, Eclipse Class it is.

I'm aware that there is a Star Wars ship out there with the same name, but there has never seemed to be any problems with that kind of thing before.  I certainly can't foresee anyone saying "but Star Wars has got a lock on this one!" :D

I'm eager to read what you guys think of the name.

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Re: Eclipse Class
« Reply #99 on: March 15, 2009, 09:41:44 PM »
I love the name!  It works perfectly!

indefatigable-
incapable of becoming fatigued

Too long, too many syllables.  Better alternative would be something like Timeless or Enduring or Invincible or Incomparable.

Too many or's.   :lol: