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Re: USSP WIPs (Another Sargo 8/5)
« Reply #100 on: June 09, 2009, 04:37:12 PM »
I would move the torpedo launchers into those red squares and then make the spot where you had them before a crew lounge.

Also, I'd slide the nacelles further back on the pylons.  Keep the junctions where they are on the nacelles, i.e. slide them back too.
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Re: USSP WIPs (Another Sargo 8/5)
« Reply #101 on: June 09, 2009, 04:44:16 PM »
Crew Lounge idea totally dwarfed what I was suggesting, so I'll go for that. As for the nacelles I'm yet to make it's actual ones so when that time comes I'll take that suggestion into account. Thanks!
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Re: USSP WIPs (Another Sargo 8/5)
« Reply #102 on: June 09, 2009, 04:45:15 PM »
Pulsephasers? Don't know whether that would make much sense though.....backup impulse sounds good.
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Re: USSP WIPs (Another Sargo 8/5)
« Reply #103 on: June 09, 2009, 04:58:31 PM »
Not sure about putting a crew lounge by the torp bays. Think about it, if someone's trying to disable you, they'll aim for the torps. If the crew lounge is right next to it, that'll dissapear too.
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Re: USSP WIPs (Another Sargo 8/5)
« Reply #104 on: June 09, 2009, 05:28:49 PM »
Hmm... Maybe move them to the sides and put in a rear phaser strip then? Or just a nameplate...
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Re: USSP WIPs (Another Sargo 8/5)
« Reply #105 on: June 09, 2009, 06:35:23 PM »
Quote from: limey98 on June 09, 2009, 04:58:31 PM
Not sure about putting a crew lounge by the torp bays. Think about it, if someone's trying to disable you, they'll aim for the torps. If the crew lounge is right next to it, that'll dissapear too.

Well, at Red Alert, crew members shouldn't be lounging around anyways.  If they are, then quite frankly they deserve a photon torpedo up their [CENSORED].

Pretty nifty little ship you've got going on there.
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Re: USSP WIPs (Another Sargo 8/5)
« Reply #106 on: June 09, 2009, 06:51:26 PM »
Quote from: Shadowknight1 on June 09, 2009, 06:35:23 PM
Well, at Red Alert, crew members shouldn't be lounging around anyways.  If they are, then quite frankly they deserve a photon torpedo up their [CENSORED].

Pretty nifty little ship you've got going on there.

It's not just about killing crew, its about losing a vital area for the crew morale!
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Re: USSP WIPs (Another Sargo 8/5)
« Reply #107 on: June 09, 2009, 07:38:51 PM »
Quote from: limey98 on June 09, 2009, 04:58:31 PM
Not sure about putting a crew lounge by the torp bays. Think about it, if someone's trying to disable you, they'll aim for the torps. If the crew lounge is right next to it, that'll dissapear too.

pfft Why attack the aft torpedo tubes that can shoot back when you can blow off the bridge?  Also, why put Ten Forward or the mess hall on the front exposed too?  While we're at it, the Voyager must be the worst design in history because it also has a crew lounge just beneath the shuttle bay.

It's not a big deal, jeesh.

Oh and it's not like it's the only crew lounge.  Go look at the blue prints of the Enterprise D.  It has about a hundred.
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Re: USSP WIPs (Another Sargo 8/5)
« Reply #108 on: June 09, 2009, 08:11:22 PM »
definitely different.  something about it is appealing though.  i think that some refinement is in order, but I do like it.
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Re: USSP WIPs (Another Sargo 8/5)
« Reply #109 on: June 09, 2009, 08:35:54 PM »
If I could find out just what it is that this version has that draws this praise I'd abuse it, but it seems to be hiding somewhere. :S

The model keeps getting small touch-ups as I keep remaking it, and I really think the idea of "The more you rebuild it the better it gets" is starting (Key word) to work in my favour. I'm thinking of rebuilding the saucer, as has been suggested by a couple of people, and that may see a change in design too, which may mean the drive will receed to match (Currently I both like and dislike it's length, but I'm not happy with the saucers). Currently I'm happy with the general shape of the Drive (Chunky and wide) and the Pylons though, I think those will only gain improvements to the mesh.

Thanks for the praise! Now to find out what it's secret is...

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Re: USSP WIPs (Another Sargo 8/5)
« Reply #110 on: June 11, 2009, 07:03:58 PM »
Shes a real beauty...I love the shape.

You know of course that I love the canted nacelles hehe.

I think the saucers problem is the nacelles problem...the saucer might be too ovoid, too soft. Maybe a few more hard edges ala sov would help. Like the temp nacelles it just looks too...eggish...to be muscular.

Id say give her a busy nose like the intrepid. Maybe a sensor panel and/or supplemental deflector...or maybe a fore shuttlebay...hmmm.
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Re: USSP WIPs (Another Sargo 8/5)
« Reply #111 on: June 12, 2009, 08:56:19 AM »
Quote from: Raven Night on June 11, 2009, 07:03:58 PM
...or maybe a fore shuttlebay...hmmm.

Could be handy for an assault team! :P

Thanks again to everyone, I have been taking this all into consideration, and hopefully I'll have come up with something to show over the weekend!
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Re: USSP WIPs (Another Sargo 8/5)
« Reply #112 on: June 14, 2009, 07:27:48 AM »
While thinking of ways to give her a more speedy/aggressive look, I started hacking away at pieces of the saucer to achieve a new look (To be rebuilt later) and came across this. This isn't set in stone, and they were rushed on to help me get an idea of what the new shape would be. Personally, I think it's a (small) step in the right direction.
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Re: USSP WIPs (Redesigned Sargo 16/5)
« Reply #113 on: June 16, 2009, 08:57:56 AM »
Okay, I went over it a few times, how's this one look? The drive will stay the same, but the top half will be changed.
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Re: USSP WIPs (Redesigned Sargo 16/5)
« Reply #114 on: June 16, 2009, 10:21:34 AM »
Following the design style of the Dauntless? I like it.
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Re: USSP WIPs (Redesigned Sargo 16/5)
« Reply #115 on: June 16, 2009, 10:59:10 AM »
Kind of makes sense, I mean, it would've been in Voyagers logs at least, and I (personally) loved the Dauntless, so I'm going to claim Starfleet did too :arms: My word is law! (In this thread at least :lol:)

Uh, anyway, I started working on the Sacagawea Runabout again. This time it has slightly detailed Pylon housing, a smoother mesh and a lower polycount at current. The back and the mesh in general aren't much to look at, buuuut...
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Re: USSP WIPs (Redesigned Sargo 16/5)
« Reply #116 on: June 16, 2009, 11:02:02 AM »
Nice to see you're still working on that. 8)

Also, I love the new design of the Sargo. :)
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Re: USSP WIPs (Redesigned Sargo 16/5)
« Reply #117 on: June 16, 2009, 04:44:37 PM »
The Dauntless was actually used by starfleet, if you count Enterprise as canon.

You can see it in ENT: Azati Prime in the short sequence with the Battle of Procyon V

see: http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Battle_of_Procyon_V
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Re: USSP WIPs (Redesigned Sargo 16/5)
« Reply #118 on: June 16, 2009, 05:33:30 PM »
Quote from: USS Prime on June 16, 2009, 10:59:10 AM
Uh, anyway, I started working on the Sacagawea Runabout again. This time it has slightly detailed Pylon housing, a smoother mesh and a lower polycount at current. The back and the mesh in general aren't much to look at, buuuut...

Runabout? Why don't you promote her to full starship? I always got the impression runabouts were just glorified shuttles. This looks more like a cousin of the Defiant.

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Re: USSP WIPs (Redesigned Sargo 16/5)
« Reply #119 on: June 17, 2009, 02:07:03 AM »
Quote from: NeoKaede on June 16, 2009, 05:33:30 PM
Quote from: USS Prime on June 16, 2009, 10:59:10 AM
Uh, anyway, I started working on the Sacagawea Runabout again. This time it has slightly detailed Pylon housing, a smoother mesh and a lower polycount at current. The back and the mesh in general aren't much to look at, buuuut...

Runabout? Why don't you promote her to full starship? I always got the impression runabouts were just glorified shuttles. This looks more like a cousin of the Defiant.



Only because (aside from not being my design) She's teeny tiny, the cabin itself is probably about the same inside as an upgraded runabout. :lol:
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...Probably not, but the number I get(379.6m) could be considered ?original intent,? a term that I think I will be using from now on, and ?canon? be damned.
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