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Re: WIP of TheUnknown - Project Akula
« Reply #120 on: September 09, 2009, 08:14:21 AM »
you might wanna change that pylon, dorsal nacelle pylon is the longer one, and ventral is shorter more like refit Constitution neck with torpedo pod in the middle of it
here's a pic of my version it should be accurate enough but there might be a better one somewhere

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Re: WIP of TheUnknown - Project Akula
« Reply #121 on: September 09, 2009, 09:19:17 AM »
As adonis said mate, those necelles are a bitch to build (is bitch a  swearword  :wtf)   Hmmm I dont know im sure someone will fix it if its an issue  :funny

But yeah, with my connie, I ended up getting the denis bailey off Baz I think, and thats the only way i got my necelles right. was to look at his mesh, saw what shapes he used, and kind of went from there.

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Re: WIP of TheUnknown - Project Akula
« Reply #122 on: September 09, 2009, 04:06:35 PM »
 :eek do want.. is there any chance that it would get a TNG era hardpoint, like the Constellation class pack had for the Hathaway? This ship is equally beautiful, and deserves just as good treatment as the Constellation.. the stock Akula is just as fragile as she is beautiful.
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Re: WIP of TheUnknown - Project Akula
« Reply #123 on: September 09, 2009, 06:28:57 PM »
As adonis said mate, those necelles are a bitch to build (is bitch a  swearword  :wtf)   Hmmm I dont know im sure someone will fix it if its an issue  :funny

But yeah, with my connie, I ended up getting the denis bailey off Baz I think, and thats the only way i got my necelles right. was to look at his mesh, saw what shapes he used, and kind of went from there.

Good luck.


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Re: WIP of TheUnknown - Project Akula
« Reply #124 on: September 09, 2009, 07:07:46 PM »
As adonis said mate, those necelles are a bitch to build (is bitch a  swearword  :wtf)   Hmmm I dont know im sure someone will fix it if its an issue  :funny

But yeah, with my connie, I ended up getting the denis bailey off Baz I think, and thats the only way i got my necelles right. was to look at his mesh, saw what shapes he used, and kind of went from there.

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gah, and all this is y i will never build anything TMP.

The way that worked for me the best (in really basic terms) is to use a chamfer box for the front, and a cylinder for the aft section, and boolean'em together.
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Re: WIP of TheUnknown - Project Akula
« Reply #125 on: September 10, 2009, 04:18:34 AM »
Just to back up mark and adonis the nacelles are a royal pain in the butt.

I used the dennis bailey model for my main ref, but I also used this tutorial to help build my nacelles on my TMP connie.

The tutorial is not for max but can give an newbie achive a good looking nacelle

http://jimroyal.com/design/starship-enterprise-project/

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Re: WIP of TheUnknown - Project Akula
« Reply #126 on: September 10, 2009, 04:49:26 AM »
bone i like your Akula but
there is no aft troepdo launchers and i dont like that bottom pylon
the design on SFC I it was attach to the torpedo pod
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Re: WIP of TheUnknown - Project Akula
« Reply #127 on: September 10, 2009, 05:55:41 AM »
bone i like your Akula but
there is no aft troepdo launchers and i dont like that bottom pylon
the design on SFC I it was attach to the torpedo pod
bottom pylon is quite the same I just moved torpedo pod more to the centre of the pylon because it looked weird also most of the Akulas made for SFC or BC had similiar pod w/o aft tubes, I just felt it would be better to leave a blind spot on it so it isn't yet another full weapons coverage ship, I always imagined Akula class as a quick action destroyer used to hit & run operations and fast frontal attacks... whatsmore I think that a ship with some weakness is a lot more fun to play as you have to watch your back while making another attack run, defending another ship etc. not to mention in SFC Akula is considerably older design than Miranda so it shouldn't really be equipped equally ;)

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Re: WIP of TheUnknown - Project Akula
« Reply #128 on: September 10, 2009, 01:29:02 PM »
Well, in response to the comments about the warp nacelle - I've decided to give it a complete rebuild as I probably will for the rest of the ship. I always thought it looked a little too 'blocky' compared to the real ones. Also, the original nacelle was modelled with referance to the Miranda's engines; which, surprisingly, are different to the Constitution's (only in some small details, but enough to make a difference).

In answer to some questions that have been raised:
are you ever going to retexture the kessok mine??
I was not thinking too much on rebuilding / retexturing the Kessok Mine or Sunbuster - mainly because they aren't used very much.
is there any chance that it would get a TNG era hardpoint
I wansn't considering that, to be honest. However, I do have something... alternate planned for the Akula.
The way that worked for me the best (in really basic terms) is to use a chamfer box for the front, and a cylinder for the aft section, and boolean'em together.
That's sort of what I've done. The nacelle is made up of several distinct shapes. A trapezoidal prism for the thinner body and an ovoid cylinder with engraved sides. (not the best explaination) Either way, these are REALLY difficult to get right.  :mad

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Re: WIP of TheUnknown - Project Akula
« Reply #129 on: September 10, 2009, 01:42:19 PM »
is bitch a swearword  :wtf

Neither bitch or **** are technically swear-words. A bitch is sometimes in reference to animals of the female gender, and not meant as anything bad. A **** (besides the obvious meaning), is also known as a Rooster. The weather-veins you see on the roof of many barns, are sometimes known as "A ****".

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Re: WIP of TheUnknown - Project Akula
« Reply #130 on: September 10, 2009, 03:25:49 PM »

You learn alot by watching George Carlin :P

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Re: WIP of TheUnknown - Project Akula
« Reply #131 on: September 10, 2009, 04:28:47 PM »
may he rest in peace

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Re: WIP of TheUnknown - Project Akula
« Reply #132 on: September 10, 2009, 04:42:24 PM »
i honestly cried when i heard that news... his end of the world theory still makes me laugh to this day.... everyones uncle daves sitting around playing cards......TO YOUTUBE!!!!!
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Re: WIP of TheUnknown - Project Akula
« Reply #133 on: September 10, 2009, 05:31:33 PM »
Got alot of his "greatest hits" on my Mp3 player, and I listen to them regularly. Eventhough i've heard them all dozens of times, he still makes me laugh... but alas, we're going a wie bit offtopic here :)
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Re: WIP of TheUnknown - Project Akula
« Reply #134 on: September 11, 2009, 05:05:10 AM »
@Bones, your akula is excelent, i baed my legacy version in my TMP pack on it. Wich will alo go into legacy.

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Re: WIP of TheUnknown - Project Akula
« Reply #135 on: September 21, 2009, 05:00:58 PM »
Long time, no update. Anyway, I've been spending the last few weeks getting those TMP nacelles to look right, I must've rebuilt them at least three times so far and I think I've just about got them done :) .

I've also rebuild the saucer and bridge dome. The latter I'm still not quite happy with, but for tonight I just can't find a way of doing it properly. For the new Akula build, I've been heavily studying referance pictures and scematics for the Constitution so hopefully I'll be able to do the ship justice. There are still a new normals errors on a few of the faces but they shouldn't be too difficult to fix.

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Re: WIP of TheUnknown - Project Akula
« Reply #136 on: September 21, 2009, 05:02:05 PM »
Wow, that has really improved. :D
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Re: WIP of TheUnknown - Project Akula
« Reply #137 on: September 21, 2009, 06:05:58 PM »
Long time, no update. Anyway, I've been spending the last few weeks getting those TMP nacelles to look right, I must've rebuilt them at least three times so far and I think I've just about got them done :) .

I know exactly how that feels like. Looks tons better now :)
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Re: WIP of TheUnknown - Project Akula
« Reply #138 on: September 23, 2009, 05:10:44 PM »
Just a little update to show my progress so far: The main hull segments are now in place, as well as a Bridge pod I'm quite happy with and a the impulse engines are attached smoothly to the hull. Apart from only one confusing normals error on the Nacelles, everything else appears to be fine.

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Re: WIP of TheUnknown - Project Akula
« Reply #139 on: September 23, 2009, 09:12:40 PM »
She looks awesoome ;) tho I think you should show a pic of side view rly cuz I'm getting feeling that dorsal nacelle pylon is too short ATM ... I may be wrong tho :P