fursWiPs: TMP Enterprise

[furswift]

I'm having a big problem with exporting my Executor. I get a VoxelizerDebug report that's about 1.6 megabytes long saying there are hundreds of double sided triangles. However, I ran an STL check in Max on double sided faces and there is a grand total of 10. There are hundred of open edges however, which I think is because the entire model is only 8 separate objects. Are these open edges harmful? How do I get rid of them? Is the huge VoxelizerDebug report due to the exporter and not the model itself? Thanks for your help.

[X_TheUnknown_X]

I had exactly the same problem when I was trying to get my Starbase model into BC a while back. My problem was that there is a little out-of-the-way setting in the ship's py script (in scripts/ships) which, I believe, controls the resolution of the vox file. If the ship is too large, and the resolution setting is too low (or high ? ) then it causes this vox error. I suggest copying the settings from the stock BC starbase file (in the SDK) into your ship py script. That should solve the problem.
For referance, here's the setting from the stock starbase script i was talking about

def LoadModel(bPreLoad = 0):
   pStats = GetShipStats()

   # Create the LOD info
   if (not App.g_kLODModelManager.Contains(pStats["Name"])):
      # Params are: File Name, PickLeafSize, SwitchOut Distance,
      # Surface Damage Res, Internal Damage Res, Burn Value, Hole Value,
      # Search String for Glow, Search string for Specular, Suffix for specular
      pLODModel = App.g_kLODModelManager.Create(pStats["Name"], 10000, 1)
      # ***FIXME: Not all 3 levels of detail need OBB trees.  PickLeafSize should be 0 for the unused ones.
      pLODModel.AddLOD(pStats["FilenameHigh"], 4,  1000.0, 300.0, 0.0, 400, 900, "_glow", None, None)
      pLODModel.AddLOD(pStats["FilenameMed"],  4,  5000.0, 300.0, 0.0, 400, 900, "_glow", None, None)
      pLODModel.AddLOD(pStats["FilenameLow"],  4, 10000.0,   0.0, 0.0, 400, 900, "", None, None)
      pLODModel.SetTextureSharePath("data/Models/SharedTextures/FedBases")

[vonfrank]

Hmmm. Are you sure? I think the lines you have highlighted in the ship file only have to do with what range each level of model detail is visible from, and details on the levels of visible damage for the model.

I could be wrong, but it doesn't look like that has anything to do with the problem.

[furswift]

Yeah, I appreciate the tip, X_TheUnknown_X, but it didn't seem to make a difference. Although it does make sense to lower the resolution of the vox nif, the problem seems to lie in the model itself. Yet I don't get it because as I stated above, the model in Max has very few double sided triangles; it appears to be a problem with the conversion process. If anyone else has 3ds Max 2010 or above and is willing to take a look, I'd gladly send them the file.

What's really weird is that I took the time to make this mesh as unified as I could. At 8 separate objects, the game crashes when it takes damage, yet my Excelsior is 100 different objects and has no major damaging issues. :wtf

[tiqhud]

Hmmm. Are you sure? I think the lines you have highlighted in the ship file only have to do with what range each level of model detail is visible from, and details on the levels of visible damage for the model.

I could be wrong, but it doesn't look like that has anything to do with the problem.

no you are NOT wrong, it has Nothing to do with that, it is the distances, and some damage settings

[furswift]

Hey everyone,

After a bit of a hiatus, I decided to get back to making an Excelsior pack. This pack will include an improved NX version, an NCC version, the TNG version of the Hood, a DS9 variant with glowing nacelles, the Enterprise B, the Lakota, and a Mystery Treat. Unfortunately, I don't think this will be done for the Christmas release, but they should be done pretty soon. Here are pictures of the new NX, NCC, and TNG Hood.

[Villain]

Coming along very nicely. Keep up the good work.

[Shadowknight1]

Looks pretty good to me too.

[086gf]

Very nice and clean ships dude.

Mistery treat you say? Is it a canon ship or is it something only you have thought of?

[Bren]

Those are exceedingly pretty!

[Adonis]

and a Mystery Treat.

Lemme guess, the Ingram?  :angel

[furswift]

Mistery treat you say? Is it a canon ship or is it something only you have thought of?

All I can say is it's canon, but not how you're thinking.

Lemme guess, the Ingram?  :angel

I wasn't thinking of the Ingram, but now that you mention it that's a pretty cool ship. Perhaps in the future...

Thanks for the compliments, guys.

[Nihilus]

Wow those are absolutely gorgeous!  I can't wait to see your version of the Ent-B/Lakota.  The only thing that I never liked about them, was the fact that they were a White/Teal color.  I would have much preferred them to have been a darker Grey and Blue like the other Excelsiors.  You wouldn't have the spare time to maybe paint a Lakota styled Excelsior the same color as your NCC-2000 would you? .

Also, I noticed on the NCC-2000 that the stripes just below the Deflector are a neat little aztec pattern.  They're fine as is, but if your intent is to get it as close to canon as possible, I just wanted to point out that the Stripes on the Excelsior in Star Trek VI were just solid stripes.  Of course if you already knew that and you just wanted to spice it up, then disregard by observation lol.

[Dawg81]

sweet looking excels. Will u be using the engine warmup script?

[moed]

Very nice! The Excelsior class was my favorite design until the Sovereign came along... now it's a close second.

Great work.

[MarkyD]

Looks gorgeous mate, have a cookie.

The only thing i would change is the spotlight on the saucer, it looks the wrong shape.

Nice work 

[JamesTiberiusKirk]

The Valley Forge with glowing nacelles  :angel

[starship]

To much cool! 

[furswift]

The Valley Forge with glowing nacelles  :angel

Very well.

Looks gorgeous mate, have a cookie.

The only thing i would change is the spotlight on the saucer, it looks the wrong shape.

Nice work 

Thanks for the tip. I've updated it and I think it's an improvement. I'm almost done with the pack. I just need to texture the B-type ships and finish the mystery treat and I'll be all set.

[JamesTiberiusKirk]

oh nice, thats definitely my favorite excelsior vessel!