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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #720 on: May 05, 2011, 07:35:12 PM »
more like his 1,890,055,000,000th clone, and im greatly anticipating the next episode, and that kid at the end regenerating, i have a theory, and all ill say is that river and the girl are somehow linked,and something river said triggered the thought, anyways, I CANT WAIT!

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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #721 on: May 05, 2011, 08:31:36 PM »
more like his 1,890,055,000,000th clone, and im greatly anticipating the next episode, and that kid at the end regenerating, i have a theory, and all ill say is that river and the girl are somehow linked,and something river said triggered the thought, anyways, I CANT WAIT!

Was it "Imagine meeting a man who knows everything about you?" That little speech? :D
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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #722 on: May 05, 2011, 11:53:39 PM »
You think the kid is River? You think River is Susan Foreman? :p
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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #723 on: May 06, 2011, 09:21:34 AM »
You think the kid is River? You think River is Susan Foreman? :p

No, just saying the kid and River are somehow connected :P
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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #724 on: May 12, 2011, 06:19:44 PM »
Yeah... on second thoughts... River being Susan Foreman ... that'd be all kinds of wrong.

But what Time Lords are we aware of that are at large? Presumably if Susan WAS the Doctor's biological grand daughter, she was a Time Lord too. There's also that clone-daughter that was made a few seasons back from David Tenant, and flew off in a space ship at the end of the episode.

Now Susan could have been killed in the Time War - The Doctor has been very emphatic that there are none left, and you'd think he'd search for family hardest.

And the clone daughter would have to have been very lucky at some point in her life to find time travel tech in order to go back to 1960's america.

But why would either of them have regenerated into a little girl?!

Other theory - the girl is the offspring of the Doctor and River Song at some future/past point in their lives. You'd think River would have some inkling that it's her kid - even if it has regenerated before (as implied by what the kid said)... though I suppose that's not implausible, River didn't witness any Time Lord activity around the kid. Could be just a kid. Probably regenerated beyond recognition.
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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #725 on: May 12, 2011, 06:48:17 PM »
'Giggle' is all I have to say to these theories. :P
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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #726 on: May 12, 2011, 09:07:57 PM »
Yeah... I'm just letting myself ramble. Not exactly sober at the moment :P

And there's my gaping ignorance of Old Doctor Who. Or should that be DOCTOR OHO?
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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #727 on: May 12, 2011, 09:22:22 PM »
My thought?  Somehow the Silence got a piece of Romana's DNA implanted it into Amy and THERE is River Song.  BOOM there I said it!
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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #728 on: May 13, 2011, 01:15:12 PM »
But River is from the 51st Century. How would Amy, Rory and the Doctor manage to lose a kid back in the 20th Century? And shouldn't River now what's going on?

And if River is Romana, how come the Doctor didn't recognize her in the library? They've established that Time Lords can recognise each other across thier regenerations.

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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #729 on: May 13, 2011, 01:24:00 PM »
There's nothing to suggest she's actually from the 51st Century, she just happened to live around the 51st and 52nd centuries nearer the end of her life. This page http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/River_Song states in the Behind the Scenes section that "It is unknown where in time and space River Song originally came from."
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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #730 on: May 13, 2011, 02:14:10 PM »
But River is from the 51st Century. How would Amy, Rory and the Doctor manage to lose a kid back in the 20th Century? And shouldn't River now what's going on?

And if River is Romana, how come the Doctor didn't recognize her in the library? They've established that Time Lords can recognise each other across thier regenerations.

I never said that she IS Romana, just that the Silence somehow got her DNA (You know an EGG perhaps?) and implanted it into Amy.  Think of it as something similar to Jenny.
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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #731 on: May 14, 2011, 04:58:23 AM »
I should have made the to thoughts less linked together. :p

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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #732 on: May 15, 2011, 08:27:40 PM »
Did anyone else cry at the end of this weeks epi?  Or am I just an emotional jit?
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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #733 on: May 15, 2011, 11:47:04 PM »
I came very close to it. If my parents weren't there, I probably would have. :p

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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #734 on: May 19, 2011, 10:03:45 PM »
Awww, bless, lads :P

I loved the story, but I thought the episode felt compressed, like it had been written as a two parter, but tightened down to one part because they didn't have room in the season for the extra episode.

It was brilliant to see other parts of the TARDIS again, though when I heard about the archived control rooms, I was hoping for a chase sequence through a rogue's gallery of old-series control rooms, including the awesome gothic one from the american TV movie.

A pity the corridors were so unimaginative, though. I loved the way House played with their minds. Like in that very early story where the TARDIS was trying to communicate that something was wrong, but instead made The Doctor, Susan, Ian, and the woman teacher who's name I forget, incredibly paranoid and unreasonable. Wierd, unsettling episodes. I think they were called "The Edge Of Destruction" and "The Brink Of Disaster", or something hyperbolic like that.

I wonder will a vignette turn up online of Amy and Rory checking out their new bedroom? The bunkbeds think did make me laugh. The Doctor acting like some prudish father figure or something. I don't think Amy ever-quite-stopped being the little girl in his eyes.
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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #735 on: May 20, 2011, 01:05:14 PM »
I enjoyed it ever so much. I love Tardis episodes and any reference to her being alive. Having her in a human body was fantastic.

And reminding us there is more to the Tardis than the control room was welcomed.

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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #736 on: May 20, 2011, 06:01:08 PM »
Awww, bless, lads :P

I loved the story, but I thought the episode felt compressed, like it had been written as a two parter, but tightened down to one part because they didn't have room in the season for the extra episode.

It was brilliant to see other parts of the TARDIS again, though when I heard about the archived control rooms, I was hoping for a chase sequence through a rogue's gallery of old-series control rooms, including the awesome gothic one from the american TV movie.

A pity the corridors were so unimaginative, though. I loved the way House played with their minds. Like in that very early story where the TARDIS was trying to communicate that something was wrong, but instead made The Doctor, Susan, Ian, and the woman teacher who's name I forget, incredibly paranoid and unreasonable. Wierd, unsettling episodes. I think they were called "The Edge Of Destruction" and "The Brink Of Disaster", or something hyperbolic like that.

I wonder will a vignette turn up online of Amy and Rory checking out their new bedroom? The bunkbeds think did make me laugh. The Doctor acting like some prudish father figure or something. I don't think Amy ever-quite-stopped being the little girl in his eyes.

Her name was Barbara!
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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #737 on: May 20, 2011, 07:59:49 PM »
Thank you :) a momentary lapse :P

Wasn't there a Sarah Jane Chronicles (RIP) reference to those two still being alive, and never aging?
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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #738 on: May 20, 2011, 09:43:35 PM »
Thank you :) a momentary lapse :P

Wasn't there a Sarah Jane Chronicles (RIP) reference to those two still being alive, and never aging?

Only ep I've seen is The Doctor Dies (or something to that effect) with Matt Smith, and I believe there was a reference there.
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RE: Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers
« Reply #739 on: May 22, 2011, 02:47:13 PM »
Yeah, that's the one I was referencing.

I've only seen a handful of them - they're damn good for kids TV, especially Brit Kids TV, which is heinously hit and miss, emphasis on the miss.
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