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BC Forums => BC Modding => Topic started by: baz1701 on March 14, 2009, 08:47:46 AM
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I was looking as my mk3 JJPrise and thought Wiley has shown us what teh Enterprise would have looked like if it was around in the Kelvins day. So What would the Kelvin look like if they were still in service in the time of Kirk.
here is my Kelvin Refit
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Its a very cool idea baz.. **cookie for being the 1st to do it**
It looks a little rough around the edges mate, but im sure your cleaning those up as we speak 8)
Cant wait to see more, good luck mate.
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Nice Ship Baz, I can't wait to see the finished product as the ships from the new movie are pretty intense.
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That's pretty nifty there Baz. 8) Cookie
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You are going to enlarge the aft of the engineering hull like you did with your JJprise right?
Looks good otherwise, just about like I imagined.
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I would imagine that the whole model will be replaced once the JJprise is done.
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not bad
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Ok with the Enterprise nearly ready I have kit bashed it into a Kelvin class.
I will re-texture the reg to refelect the Kelvin
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Looks really good, but call it something, other than Kelvin , we dont want to overwrite the other one. Great Looking Ship
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I was going to call it the Kelvin-A since the original has been destoyed.
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Looks great Baz, good job 8)
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I like the idea, and you did a good job on it.
But, when I imagine a refit of a ship, I think of using the original framework and only tweaking some parts and giving it enhanced tech. Less of the TOTAL overhaul the Constitution went through (which is only the case because of budget) and more of the minor adjustments the Sovereign went through (different nacelle pylons, updated hull-plating, etc.)
I'd imagine a refit of the Kelvin having generally the same dimensions, a new nacelle (but have it be about the same length and width), a slightly bulkier engineering (still same length, and have the shuttlebay unchanged), and probably a new bridge. I'll do a sketch to show what I mean.
Anyway, nevermind me, I like your ship and look forward to commanding her in battle.
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Nice! So I'm gonna take a stab at this...So this vessel apparently was in production around the same time as the JJprise and was to be christened under another name. So in honor of the Kelvin the ship was renamed to the USS Kelvin NCC-0514A :D Just something to kick around.
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i like that better than the cannon one - Can i say that cannon? is jj's cannon??? EEKK!!! lol Wicked job baz , deffently 10/10 here, cookie incoming!
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really good looking ship :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Nice model.
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Nice! So I'm gonna take a stab at this...So this vessel apparently was in production around the same time as the JJprise and was to be christened under another name. So in honor of the Kelvin the ship was renamed to the USS Kelvin NCC-0514A :D Just something to kick around.
Pretty close, But I'd say this ship was built to be called Kelvin-A.
From what little I know about the film the Kelvin was destroyed 10-years before the Enterprise was launched.
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Nice! So I'm gonna take a stab at this...So this vessel apparently was in production around the same time as the JJprise and was to be christened under another name. So in honor of the Kelvin the ship was renamed to the USS Kelvin NCC-0514A :D Just something to kick around.
Pretty close, But I'd say this ship was built to be called Kelvin-A.
From what little I know about the film the Kelvin was destroyed 10-years before the Enterprise was launched.
Pretty close normally the ship carries the same name the registry changes to indicate the change from NCC-0514 to NCC-0514A but shes still called Kelvin or he a girl named Kelvin :shock:
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Pretty close normally the ship carries the same name the registry changes to indicate the change from NCC-0514 to NCC-0514A but shes still called Kelvin or he a girl named Kelvin :shock:
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What I ment by Kelvin-A was the same as we refer to the Enterprise-A. It will only be USS Kelvin NCC-0514-A :lol:
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Pretty close normally the ship carries the same name the registry changes to indicate the change from NCC-0514 to NCC-0514A but shes still called Kelvin or he a girl named Kelvin :shock:
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What I ment by Kelvin-A was the same as we refer to the Enterprise-A. It will only be USS Kelvin NCC-0514-A :lol:
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Ooops My Bad! :lol:
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Made the saucer texture
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"Kelvin" should be in all caps, other than that, it looks very nice baz. :D
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easy fix
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It looks Reaally Good even with Kelvin and Not KELVIN.
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Good stuff mate.. 8)
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The Kelvin has been retextured and is in game. Just a few HP tweaks and I'll release this ship to.
It will be an even fight with my JJpriseV3
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err, in that first shot, the nacelle appears to only be held on with a piece of string =S
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forgot to add the pylon texture.
All done now.
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Wow, I should've watched this thread more carefully! Awesome!
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And also your HP's making a third come back :lol:
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Neat-o!
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Your skills are really improving, Baz. :]
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:D Lookin' good BC.... Now knock off the top part and you got a saladin class :shock: I just downloaded BAZ1701 JJ Enterprise (V3.1) so I gotta go prep for the shake down cruise through the test course. I have an asteroid field with a few hiddencores that where redone to appear as asteroids unless they are scanned and a TOS or TMP romulan warbird to warp in a little later should be ample for starters depending on the HP's :lol:
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Since this is only a kit bashed JJprise the HP's are all the same just rearranged to suit the new shape.
She pretty much good to go, but who wants to beta test her?
PM or MSN me.
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for those of you beta testing this ship to things I have noticed. First the ship icon is screwy, I have fixed this and second The low textures are for the JJprise.
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I'll stick this one here as well asI don't want to open to many threads, I should just have one WIP like wiley
Anyway I have kit bashed the JJprise and the Phobos to come up with this ship
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I think it would be even better if it was entirely a JJ-Miranda. The Phobos Weapons pod and pylons I don't think quite cuts it with JJ stuff.
JJ-Mirry!
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I agree with Dalek, and I think the pylons should be a little shorter.
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Now that I remember, the Miranda had more hull behind the saucer. Like a block and some shuttle bays. The pylons and weapons pod exteneded from that.
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I can see the JJmirada becoming awhole new project rather than a kit bash from intial feedback.
I'll added it to the list as I have feeling my connie may also end up with a Mirada conversion as well.
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Looks nice Baz, I wonder what it would look like if you added the engineering department under it and let it hang back.
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Rebuilt the aft end of the JJmiranda
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Nice work. :) I already have plans for my interpretation of the JJ Miranda class and it looks a slight bit different than yours. Since the JJ-era ships have a different yet familiar design style, why would they build the Miranda class exactly like it was in the TWOK? You would think that they would alter it a bit. Though the Miranda class looks boxy in some areas, try to make it look a bit streamlined. I'm just giving some ideas. :)
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What he said. :D
While you're at it, I would slightly reposition the nacelle pylons. If I could redesign the Miranda, I would change that horrible junction.
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I will look into your sugestions. :)
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I have deleted the beta version of the Kelvin-refit since it has been downloaded 11 times and I have only sent the link to 3 people who asked.
It is not right or fair for people to download a ship that is not ready for general release and still needs work.
In the future I will leave the nif file out of the zip and e-mail it to the beta tests to stop people using the ship before it is ready.
Peace
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Indeed baz, indeed.
The Mirry looks awesome!
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I have deleted the beta version of the Kelvin-refit since it has been downloaded 11 times and I have only sent the link to 3 people who asked.
It is not right or fair for people to download a ship that is not ready for general release and still needs work.
In the future I will leave the nif file out of the zip and e-mail it to the beta tests to stop people using the ship before it is ready.
Peace
Pretty smart :D
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I feel compelled to express my disappointment in the people who weren't beta testers that downloaded the beta anyways. I was slated to be one of the beta testers for the Kelvin-A, but Filefront was giving me trouble yesterday, so I did not get a chance to do so. I applaud baz's idea for preventing such a thing from occurring in the future, and I think all modders should follow suit.
The Miranda looks nifty, can't wait to see how she ends up.
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nice progress mate, look forward to seeing how you play with it 8)
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One thing that has always bothered me about the Miranda and other classes where the nacelles were under the ship. ( "cannon" wise ) (And especially with this nacelle design) Might it look better of the nacelles were flipped so that the bottom of the nacelles were pointing up? (always made more sense to me technologically speaking, the way they were primarily used with the pylon transfer conduits at the bottom of the nacelle) Just a thought. :) But I definitely like what I see so far, far and away way better than what I could do with my limited abilities. :)
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here is a bit of an overhaul of the Miranda
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I preferred the original warp nacelle pylons. Now they look like they might snap off in a breeze...forgive the analogy. But I think the nacelles are going to have to be a teensy weensy bit longer anyway. Nothing is perfect.
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maybe beef up the width of the nacelle pylons? Extend a bit fore and some aft, but not quite to the lip of the cowling.
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Thats sort of how they were before. :P
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kinda, he had em cutting through the lip of the cowling tho, and right smack in the middle of the nacelles
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more new pylons.
These are the last version love or loathe them
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Now for the phaser cannons! :lol:
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I like em!
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Chamfer all the edges. There shouldn't be any sharp edges.
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I'm liking the way this ship is shaping up. The new pylons are good but the way they attach to nacelles could use some work I think.
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A couple of well placed phaser or disruptor blasts, will snap those nacelles off like a pretzel. Sorry, but so far i'm not very keen on this "JJverse Miranda".
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A couple of well placed phaser or disruptor blasts, will snap those nacelles off like a pretzel. Sorry, but so far i'm not very keen on this "JJverse Miranda".
Well, that happens to normal Mirandas and normal Constitutions.
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As far as Phaser cannons go, are you making this a TOS version Miranda with JJ-Prise parts sorta, or is it gonna be like a TMP Version of the Miranda with JJ Parts?
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There shouldn't be any sharp edges.
Why not?
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There shouldn't be any sharp edges.
Why not?
Every line on the JJPrise is smooth. The JJMirry should look smooth also.
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ok time to clear some stuff up and put to bed the pylon debate.
As I stated the pylons are done, I am happy with they.
As for how vunerable they are, they are no more at risk of detachment than any other trek ship from the NX-01 to the Sov.
So it is time to move on from the pylon issue I am not re-building them again as I am happy with them. And they won't snap off any easier than the JJprise of the kelvins nacelles.
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I have chamfered the aft section and added "retro" phaser cannons.
The model is now complete, now to paint it.
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And the phase cannons add the final touch. :D
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Main textures done
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Very cool! :)
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I second that. :D
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how about some in game screen shots
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Nice job there!
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there can never be enough mirandas
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wow, im really impressed, BUT there is one in the movie, if u look really really closly, theres somthing very similer, but it looks to have the deflector on it still. i'll dig up the pic if i can find it and post it to u. there's also a 4 nacel one too :D
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JJMirry... Doesn't have the ring of JJPrise. JJRanda? Nah.
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JJMirry... Doesn't have the ring of JJPrise. JJRanda? Nah.
how's about Jiranda?? :P
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I invented JJMirry. Everyone has being using it so meh. :P
BUT there is one in the movie
If it's got Kelvin decals, it en't a Mirry. :P It needs Warp nacelles that the JJPrise uses.
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The Kelvin Refit has been uploaded this morning.
JJMiranda is almost ready to beta, some HP tweaks still to do.
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I now how beta testers now for the Miranda.
I will be trialing the new beta method so that only the testers can used the ship.
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I'm up for it, I love new ships. I'll put her through the tests, message me if you'd like me to, then i'd supply my email address.
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You know the drill with me...:P
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I like this. You've come a long way, Baz. Good work dude. :]