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BC Forums => BC Modding => Topic started by: candle_86 on October 05, 2009, 02:09:30 PM
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Ok i started on this just cause well ive been working on the valiant and needed a break, its in grahpics art but i like it so much i figured why not make it for BC lol.
You can see where im going
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a bit high poly for a fighter dont ya think?;)
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he's used to woring on ships for one of the more low-poly trek games.
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it will be depolyied after i map it dont worry
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First thought: (http://photo.net/learn/airshow/images/geebee.jpg)
second thought: (http://au.geocities.com/thefortysecondinww2/images/planes/vought-corsair.jpg)
as long as you give her four pulse phasers at minimum, you will have my dl.
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4 laser cannon emblacements right above the deflector
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you mean like this?
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Pulse phasers would be better fitted into the wings to give wider coverage. There weren't that many one man fighters with nose armament back in WWII. however, a photon/microphoton launcher could be placed in a pod under the nose.
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lol this isnt for the 24th century its for the 22nd century. Built after the Romulan War as planatary defense, hince the text and the birdofprey on the tail all being from the 22nd century. Photon launchers are still big and expensive. Pulse phasers havnt been invented yet
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Ah, I see. but could similar armament be achieved with that era's tech?
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not that we ever saw, we know the NX-01 had Phase Cannons and Photonic Torpedo Launchers. We know the 1701 under pike had lasers. So I choose lasers not phase cannons Sorry B&B but photonic missle launchers are to big, and I dont like the look of underslung missles not only that i dont think there is a script taht can make the missles leave and self guide lol.
Also its not shielded or armored, to expensive, the front dish is sensors and deflector screens, low powered deflector screens just to move debries from out of the way at warp. Also Im not putting lasers in the wings I dont feel safe having lasers next to my warp plasma sorry
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In the ENT era they had plasma cannons and the phasers fired long pulses in WoK.
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the hardest thing was finding a vulcan pinup, the little black dot there is the original artists signature and its not comming off, I was unable to contact him but im giving him full credit.
Does she look Aerodyanmic enough for atmosphereic flight?
If anyone wants the raw mesh in .gmax let me know ill release it to you personally if you want to work with it, maybe refit it for your own style era. Though the mapping is weird on it lol so when you go to retexture be warned you might have to remap it
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being part of an art group infamout for having it stolen and the name scrubbed off, leaving the artists "signat" (the design serving as their signature) is a brainy idea.
PS...prep a skin without the noseart as well, in case a fuss is raised.
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I have
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I think I would make the nacelles a little smaller - they look almost as big as the fuselage - but beyond that, this is an interestin' idea.
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Like to point though the NX01 DID have something akin to Pulse phasers,
remember "Broken Bow" they were indeed used.
I guess I better watch agian, I cant find screencap at trekcore
[may have over looked]
{Oh come on tiqhud, what was that episode}
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I suggest that you maybe angle the pylons downward a bit, as it would provide them with a landing gear sort of cappability. Also, it would take the danger of the warp field being close to the pilot. I think it would also benifit you to add at least something in the way of ablative armor; I'm sure that by this point they would have that sort of technology down to a science. As for weapons, perhaps a sort of energy beam that fires out of the deflector as a last resort, high power weapon, since this ship is designed for planetary defense. Thats what I got for ya. I'd love to hardpoint it or something if youd like the help.
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Like to point though the NX01 DID have something akin to Pulse phasers,
remember "Broken Bow" they were indeed used.
I guess I better watch agian, I cant find screencap at trekcore
[may have over looked]
{Oh come on tiqhud, what was that episode}
That were the Plasma cannons I mentioned. They were never used again but civilian ships still had them.
http://ent.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/1x01/brokenbow_553.jpg
http://ent.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/1x10/fortunateson_384.jpg
http://ent.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/2x20/horizon_659.jpg
http://ent.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/2x20/horizon_647.jpg
http://ent.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/2x20/horizon_649.jpg
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Damn this looks very interesting, now I'd like to have F-117 and F-22 reinvisioned in TNG era ;)
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wait untill some of us try it with WW2 prop planes! :D
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not bad mate, but the mesh needs allot of work, and it looks too high in the poly count for a fighter.
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it will get all the work it needs, I lost everything
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I can't believe noone has asked why this topic is called Science Teacher? :funny
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name of the fighter, but its lost now, power outage i lost all my work not backed up
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:( :( Damn it was so cool design... I hope you'll be able to rebuild it, would be pity if you couldn't
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Actually Pulse Phasers aren't indiginous to the 24th century, just because we did not see them until Defiant. Wether fired in Pulses or streams or beams is irrelevent, it has to do with the style of the FX being used in each Trek show, and then the excuses are made up to follow suit, The particle canons used by Enterprise Nx 1701 became twin beams when phase canons, and Pulse like phasers for Trek 2 the wrath of Khan. One could easily define the Khan era Connies Phasers as "Pulse phasers" if you look at the Fx used but that is semantics.
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Tough luck, Candle. Hope you get it back.
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ill get around to remaking it, but ill make it better next time lol, want good news thoug, the artwork i made is backuped in this thread and others lol
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A little update im reworking it lol since I lost it im working with this its alot less polies and doesnt have weird shading issues. Oh and yea i got a computer again and im back.
Im rethinking the era here of course givin those arnt warp engines im thinking Fission Impulse Drive Rockets on the wings with a larger Fission impulse engine in the rear of the ship. Ill prolly texture it more in line with Pre ENT lol
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welcome back. you shouldn't have let them get you down. and, yes, some of us did download the Tiber. there's a few things to catch up on.
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the tiber I still have it was in my email along with the unreleased versions lol they just needed to be tested
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I've racked up 4 or 5 betas, now.
I've also got my scheme settled, picked up modeling and skinning tips, have enough releases to be proud of...
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Hey Candle, great fighter ;) any chance to rebuild previous version, I don't really care for poly count cuz previous one looked sooo oldschool, it was too cool to never hit the game ;)
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for you bones I will work on tring to rebuild it yep
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oh man :) thx and have a cookie ;)
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Well some things that I didnt like that I can do better are being done lol but here she is restarted
I do have one minor issue the noseart and tailart I dont have either of those anymore as well I emailed them to a few people does anyone at all still have it>?
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Aye laddy, that's a fine machine :) here are my suggestions concerning cockpit-tail connection and wings
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Hope ya dont mind bones I went another way with the wings and cockpit back to my original design I didnt like the bubble cockpit lol. Im gonna shape the impulse drive later today but basic shape is there and i found the art work so tonight or tomorrow ill start textures again then who ever wants to work it into game I'll send it to ya
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Rebuilding the 1940s with future technology. Cool :)
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I'd be happy to setup the file structur , for the Nif, oh an HP it as well, Im thinking TOS, or do you have something else in mind.
I read Pre ENT. ok
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for this little guy right here the swept wing it goes right with the connie 2245 launch :D so right before ToS
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No worries mate ;) I like it this way :D
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little updated ported to SFC for the mod viewer plus i prefer using SFC mod viewer anyway lol
textures next, and then I'll send you an email bones if your team wants to port it to BC I dont really play anymore lol
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Sure :) Once she's textured we will take good care of her ;)
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I liked the old one better.
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little updated ported to SFC for the mod viewer plus i prefer using SFC mod viewer anyway lol
textures next, and then I'll send you an email bones if your team wants to port it to BC I dont really play anymore lol
Looks like a Messerschmidt BF109 with warp engines. Not bad!
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I liked the old one better.
old one is gone no way to recover lol and it was very sloppy you didnt see the wireframe on it I did lol
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well, the design and proprotions were better..this one has too much wing and just looks silly. The old one had a better look to it.
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well its designed for flight in an atmosphere dont forget and the wings add lift meaning it doesnt need to use repulsors ect to remain aloft it also means because of the wing span It has the possbility to glide incase of engine failure lol. Look at the WW2 fighters I base'd the design off of they have lots of wing lol
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Ok this will be my first project to reboot, i still have some of my original artwork for this one
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(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e44/candle_86/scienceeacher.jpg)
Ok im starting but I've got alot of remembering to do lol
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*Bursts out laughing*
Ok im starting but I've got alot of remembering to do lol
I sooooo know what you mean, i picked up after just 6 months and was ......WTF DO I DO!!! your get back into it mate, it wont be a problem
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well accecpt i was never very good at the mesh thing anyway, always to high poly and odd shapes
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you use gmax same as me? thought i was the only one lol
i had same thin a while back when i came back to modelling and bc after my son was born... but one thing i found was that i re-learnt... and quite quickly and discovered better ways of doing things and as much as i think my modelling sucks... i improved massively after i came back... im sure you will find it the same.
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Dude have some faith, this was me in 2007
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/old/oldares/7.jpg)
And this is me now!.
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/30.jpg)
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/2013/vorcha/31.jpg)
all you need is a bit of time to learn the tricks of the trade and some patience and your get there man, i have no doubt in my mind, hell if I can, YOU can, if u ever need anything just ask people, we're all friendly enough to help to some point :D