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Title: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: GMunoz on October 06, 2009, 04:22:25 PM
Here is a TOS Cheyenne concept.  Comments would be appreciated.
Title: Re: How about a TOS Cheyenne
Post by: Darkthunder on October 06, 2009, 04:30:49 PM
In all honesty, i'd say it's more reminiscent of a TOS Constellation Class (with the Cheyenne itself being more of a "TNG Constellation Class")

I like this concept. Looks good, seems to have all the necessary parts. Only thing missing is a shuttlebay, but perhaps one is not needed. Cookie for you in any case.
Title: Re: How about a TOS Cheyenne
Post by: Biggins on October 06, 2009, 04:44:32 PM
definently more like a constellation class but i do like it :) Now to wait till someone does a TOS kelvin class  :P
Title: Re: How about a TOS Cheyenne
Post by: JamesTiberiusKirk on October 06, 2009, 04:56:08 PM
The chayennes nacelles would be more "V"-shaped rather than "T" right?  :wtf
Title: Re: How about a TOS Cheyenne
Post by: GMunoz on October 06, 2009, 04:57:33 PM
Thanks for the Cookie Darkthunder.  I guess you are right, it does look more like a Constellation.  Here is another variant I was toying with, an Interceptor:



Title: Re: How about a TOS Cheyenne
Post by: Billz on October 06, 2009, 05:07:20 PM
The idea is good. It still looks a little strange. Maybe if you reduce the angle of the nacelle pylons slightly though, it would look better.

Example:
Instead of like X, you could try something like this ><. The bottom nacelles should be flipped the right way up aswell IMHO.
Title: Re: How about a TOS Cheyenne
Post by: Lionus on October 06, 2009, 05:13:08 PM
[unavoidable SW-reference]"Lock the S-Foils on attack position!"[/unavoidable SW reference]

I like it, but the if it would be TOS-era representation of The Constellation-Class, there should be shuttlebays and cargo doors on the saucer, not to mention torpedo launchers on the pylons.
Title: Re: How about a TOS Cheyenne
Post by: Darkthunder on October 06, 2009, 05:31:07 PM
That second configuration makes me think of a TOS-era Prometheus Class actually. I would concur with Billz suggestion for the pylons.
Title: Re: How about a TOS Cheyenne
Post by: GMunoz on October 06, 2009, 07:07:14 PM
I will refrence the TMP Constellation for some cues and change the TOS concept from a Cheyenne to a Constallation.  Will post pics as soon as I make the re-configurations.

Not sure what I will do with the X ship.
Title: Re: How about a TOS Cheyenne
Post by: ACES_HIGH on October 06, 2009, 09:05:40 PM
In all honesty, i'd say it's more reminiscent of a TOS Constellation Class (with the Cheyenne itself being more of a "TNG Constellation Class")

I like this concept. Looks good, seems to have all the necessary parts. Only thing missing is a shuttlebay, but perhaps one is not needed. Cookie for you in any case.

maybe you could put drop bays into the bottom of the saucer.

Here's Saladin variant I made (using Phaser's Saladin and Cage Connie) for a personal project that shows what I mean:
Title: Re: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: Starforce2 on October 07, 2009, 12:29:38 AM
try putting those bussard spears on the constelation one.
Title: Re: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: NeoKaede on October 07, 2009, 08:42:51 AM
I'd move the deflector dish to the front of the saucer in the Constellation. Otherwise, it looks good, better than the X-Nacelles :P
Title: Re: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: pointman on October 07, 2009, 09:29:24 AM
I think the bridge dome needs to be the correct shape, the reg needs work too, overall shape is good, like both varients.
Title: Re: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: MarkyD on October 07, 2009, 09:45:28 AM
I think pointman has made any observation I would, apart from that good work.
Title: Re: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: Furyofaseraph on October 07, 2009, 10:13:20 AM
Munoz - I for one liked the I-shape formation more than the X. What I would do though is add some sort of pod or structure to the end of each vertical strut where it meets the horizontal strut.
Title: Re: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: GMunoz on October 07, 2009, 10:38:13 AM
Excellent comments and ideas, thanks guys.
Title: Re: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: captain_obvious on October 07, 2009, 10:46:55 AM
any chance of a jjconnie? :evil:

I'd move the deflector to the saucer itself (sort of like the one on the NX class) and shrink that donut shaped thing which the bridge is sat on. And perhaps move the whole bridge assembly forward a touch.

Nice work though!
Title: Re: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: mckinneyc on October 07, 2009, 02:40:00 PM
I prefer the first varient to be honest. Perhaps having shuttlebay doors at the front of the saucer section. Also I'd move the deflector dish to where the bottom nacelles connect to the ventral supporting strut.
Title: Re: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: GMunoz on October 07, 2009, 05:35:23 PM
Here is an update.   Definatley more Constellation like now.

Title: Re: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: candle_86 on October 08, 2009, 04:43:29 PM
you need to make your aztech cirular othewise it looks like the whole thing was cut from a single sheet of metal
Title: Re: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: GMunoz on October 09, 2009, 01:11:10 AM
OK, Added:

Torp Launcher pods on the end of the struts
Moved deflector dish to pod on lower strut
Added shuttle bay
Added circular aztecing to saucer
Changed and fixed name and registry


Title: Re: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: JamesTiberiusKirk on October 09, 2009, 04:04:11 AM
now thats cool and looks reasonable aswell
Title: Re: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: captain_obvious on October 09, 2009, 07:20:17 AM
Much better layout wise imo. I'm not 100% sure about that pod mind you. It's in the right place but the dish looks undersized as does the pod itself.  I think you should lengthen the rear of it slightly so it covers more of the strut because it looks a tad fragile where it is.
The shuttle bay looks just right though, a really nice touch and a good shape! You might be able to get away with raising it just enough to bring the impulse engines inwards slightly. Heck, maybe you could integrate it into the deflector pod to save you lengthening that pod??
The rim of the saucer looks a tad primitive though. Spend a few more polygons to smooth it perhaps?

The textures are rather cartoonish to boot. Windows are oversized I think. Plus the whole ship looks really dirty and low res.
The saucer registry doesn't look right either. I can't put my finger on it but something just isn't quite right there.

Amazing progress though I must say. With a bit of work I'd quite like to give her a spin or three :)

Title: Re: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: Maxloef on October 09, 2009, 08:07:26 AM
i love it :D
Title: Re: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: KrrKs on October 09, 2009, 12:10:54 PM
i love it :D
What to say more?
Oh, cookie  :D
Title: Re: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: Furyofaseraph on October 09, 2009, 01:41:05 PM
I like the pod :-)
Title: Re: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: GMunoz on October 10, 2009, 09:41:10 AM
All, thanks once again for the suggestions.  I tried "cleaning up" the textures a bit but I am afraid my paint program and tesxturing skills are lmited.  But, I have the ship in-game.

 

Title: Re: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: Darkthunder on October 10, 2009, 12:07:36 PM
Very nicely done.
Title: Re: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: Furyofaseraph on October 10, 2009, 01:34:48 PM
Very nicely done.

QFT
Title: Re: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: Phaser on October 10, 2009, 08:41:46 PM
Not bad.  Not bad.
Title: Re: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: mckinneyc on October 11, 2009, 06:13:05 AM
Love it! So pleasing to the eye like the Connie is.
Title: Re: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: NeoKaede on October 11, 2009, 07:37:49 AM
Very nice.
Title: Re: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: candle_86 on October 12, 2009, 11:02:38 PM
one question when can i download it
Title: Re: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: Darkthunder on October 12, 2009, 11:37:02 PM
one question when can i download it

Never EVER ask that question. The simplest answer is:

When it's done?
Title: Re: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: Lionus on October 13, 2009, 09:24:43 AM
I think it could use couple more cargo doors or shuttlebays..
Title: Re: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: GMunoz on October 13, 2009, 05:09:05 PM
OK, here is the final version.  added aft torp launcher, cargo bays, fixed registry, running lights, reconfigured nacelles.

Title: Re: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: Darkthunder on October 13, 2009, 05:34:13 PM
Looks great.
Title: Re: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: Dalek on October 13, 2009, 05:40:22 PM
Aren't the portholes on the front a bit too big? I know they were big on the TOS Connie but those windows take up at least 2 decks. :P
Title: Re: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: King Class Scout on October 13, 2009, 10:30:20 PM
just call it the Predecessor to ten foreward :P
Title: Re: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: Lionus on October 14, 2009, 12:40:30 PM
okay, I give up. that is beautiful.  :D *fires a volley of choco chip cookies*
Title: Re: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: GMunoz on October 15, 2009, 09:58:32 PM
Never give up, never surrender.

Thanks for the cookies.  Will be sending her to BC file front tonight.  Thanks to all for the suggestions.
Title: Re: How about a TOS Constellation
Post by: MarkyD on October 16, 2009, 12:12:01 PM
very nicely done there mate.  ;)