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Title: Husnock Warship
Post by: furswift on February 22, 2010, 10:50:33 AM
This is a model I built in 3ds Max 2010 of the Husnock warship as featured in the TNG episode "The Survivors". It has 10,290 polys and uses two 2048 targas for textures. If anyone is interested in porting this model into BC I would greatly appreciate it. :)

Title: Re: Husnock Warship
Post by: Bones on February 22, 2010, 11:22:04 AM
Oh I liked that ship, good work ;)
Title: Re: Husnock Warship
Post by: Nebula on February 22, 2010, 11:22:46 AM
oooh yeah BC is definitely in need of a new Husnock model... the old one is showing its age.
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Post by: JimmyB76 on February 22, 2010, 11:37:10 AM
very cool!  :D
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Post by: GMunoz on February 22, 2010, 01:48:20 PM
Very nice, looks clean
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Post by: deadthunder2_0 on February 22, 2010, 05:29:56 PM
I'll Port it
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Post by: moed on February 22, 2010, 06:28:59 PM
Lookin' real nice.
Title: Re: Husnock Warship
Post by: King Class Scout on February 23, 2010, 06:58:21 AM
nice balance between lowish polys and high textures.  how did you get a clear enough idea of the design, though?  Next G eps are starting to show the fact that they're over 20 years old in their fuzzy and vague appearance.
Title: Re: Husnock Warship
Post by: andyp on February 24, 2010, 01:16:14 AM
nice balance between lowish polys and high textures.  how did you get a clear enough idea of the design, though?  Next G eps are starting to show the fact that they're over 20 years old in their fuzzy and vague appearance.

this ship is just a redress of the bajoran freighter / pakled vessel / a million other ships
http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/11/22/bajoran-assault-vessel/ (http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/11/22/bajoran-assault-vessel/)
 
Title: Re: Husnock Warship
Post by: Nebula on February 24, 2010, 08:22:17 AM
nice balance between lowish polys and high textures.  how did you get a clear enough idea of the design, though?  Next G eps are starting to show the fact that they're over 20 years old in their fuzzy and vague appearance.

this ship is just a redress of the bajoran freighter / pakled vessel / a million other ships
http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/11/22/bajoran-assault-vessel/ (http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2009/11/22/bajoran-assault-vessel/)
 

Sorry but according to a post in that link, it isn't....

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You are mixing up starships. This is not the ?hammerhead?-ship which was originally the Husnock ship, then the Jovis and after that appeared as numerous other ships on TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT. The Bajoran incarnation of the hammerhead looks very similar to the design featured above, but they are two different ships. Knowing Doug, I guess we?ll see the CG version of the Bajoran hammerhead soon?

anyway back to someone porting this beauty!!
Title: Re: Husnock Warship
Post by: WileyCoyote on February 24, 2010, 11:01:53 AM
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anyway back to someone porting this beauty!!
And the NX-Excelsior.
Title: Re: Husnock Warship
Post by: furswift on February 24, 2010, 11:58:38 AM
Thanks for all the compliments, guys! :)

@deadthunder2_0: I appreciate your interest but I already got an offer. Thanks!

@King Class Scout: Lots of pausing and rewinding of the episode was necessary. The ship is seen from lots of different angles (they were justifiably proud of their "ship of the week") so that's where I got most of my information. There are also some great closeup shots of the Jovis which is indeed a redress of this model (it appears again in an episode of Voyager, but I forget which one), but I had to be careful about that as a lot of stuff was changed. I also had to make up much of the detail because you're right, it is from a TV episode that's nearly 21 years old so not only was it fuzzy, it also lacked a lot of detail in the first place.

@WileyCoyote: About the NX-Excelsior, limey98 is working on it, but I screwed up the texture mapping (I should have used just one material slot per texture, but I didn't), so I think it needs to be remapped. I might have to do the same to this model which would be much easier since it's much less complex. But I want to finish my Executor model first so it may be awhile.:(
Title: Re: Husnock Warship
Post by: furswift on July 08, 2010, 05:43:46 PM
BUMP!  :angel

A lot of progress has been made on this ship. Teleguy has been great and has developed a hardpoint which I'm trying to tweak. I have a question for the community: If this ship were to be canon, it would pretty much be a God ship. It's carrying "enough firepower to pulverize a planet" and, "its defenses are apparently able to absorb incoming matter and energy." Whether this absorption is infinite and absolute is never really specified, but suffice it to say that this ship is supposed to be far more advanced than a Galaxy. Unfortunately it might also make it not much fun to play with as I quickly tire of using God ships. I'm not really sure which direction to take this in; give the ship a slight advantage to make the battles more thrilling or give it a completely dominating advantage to stay truer to the show and also reinforce the overall badness of the warship. What do you think?
Title: Re: Husnock Warship
Post by: Nihilus on July 08, 2010, 06:01:26 PM
BUMP!  :angel

A lot of progress has been made on this ship. Teleguy has been great and has developed a hardpoint which I'm trying to tweak. I have a question for the community: If this ship were to be canon, it would pretty much be a God ship. It's carrying "enough firepower to pulverize a planet" and, "its defenses are apparently able to absorb incoming matter and energy." Whether this absorption is infinite and absolute is never really specified, but suffice it to say that this ship is supposed to be far more advanced than a Galaxy. Unfortunately it might also make it not much fun to play with as I quickly tire of using God ships. I'm not really sure which direction to take this in; give the ship a slight advantage to make the battles more thrilling or give it a completely dominating advantage to stay truer to the show and also reinforce the overall badness of the warship. What do you think?

Seems like if it were truly that awesome then they wouldn't be afraid of anyone in the Galaxy.  It must have some kind of weakness.  "enough firepower to pulverize a planet" isn't that god like anyways.  According to TOS the Enterprise had the ability to destroy the entire surface of a Planet also and that's with TOS tech.

I would suggest making it strong/weak enough for Epic Battles but don't make her ridiculously invincible.  That's my two cents anyway :)
Title: Re: Husnock Warship
Post by: tiqhud on July 08, 2010, 06:43:19 PM
strong shields, weak hull , or vice versa, some major weakness
Title: Re: Husnock Warship
Post by: moed on July 08, 2010, 07:18:09 PM
"give it a completely dominating advantage to stay truer to the show and also reinforce the overall badness of the warship."

That's what I think. Besides, I'll bet fighting this ship with an Excalibur or Eclipse class would definitely give it a run for its money.
Title: Re: Husnock Warship
Post by: RifleMan80 on July 08, 2010, 07:52:49 PM
 :yay:  :yay:  :yay:

"A species of hideous intelligence"
    ---Kevin Uxbridge---
   TNG Episode "The Survivors"

I can't wait to try this monster. Looks great!
Delta Rana IV will happen again  :evil:
Title: Re: Husnock Warship
Post by: Psyco Diver on July 08, 2010, 10:21:57 PM
Well I think the ship should be as powerful as a galaxy cause remember the being said they sent a bunch of them to the planet and the one the Enterprise D fought was made by a Beings imagination to force the enterprise back, so naturally it would be invincible.
Title: Re: Husnock Warship
Post by: deadthunder2_0 on July 08, 2010, 11:27:50 PM
they shot it in the arse right? then make the aft shield non-existant
Title: Re: Husnock Warship
Post by: teleguy on July 09, 2010, 05:19:45 PM
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they shot it in the arse right?

Well, I had thought about maybe putting the ships warpcore into that round object at the back so it could be easily destroyed from behind.



Title: Re: Husnock Warship
Post by: RifleMan80 on July 10, 2010, 01:07:02 AM
As a famous villan once said "More than a match for poor Enterprise."
In this case, I say this; "More than a match for poor Enterprise unless seen in the rear view mirror."
"Enterprises in mirror are closer than they appear."
Title: Re: Husnock Warship
Post by: furswift on July 11, 2010, 10:38:42 PM
A lot of good points have been made about this ship's strength and how Kevin would change it to suit his interests. The first time the Enterprise engages it in battle, it is invincible, but only gives "love taps" even though it was capable of so much more. In the second engagement, it's obliterated by a single torpedo. Since these battles can't really be used as benchmarks for the ship's power, I must conclude that it lies somewhere in the middle of that spectrum. Since it's noted in the script that the Delta Rana IV ship is indeed supposed to be a recreation of the Husnock ship, and since it serves the story to have that ship be really threatening (I think the writers intended the viewer to give a little sigh of relief when the Dowd says he killed all the Husnock everywhere, as it would have been a real problem if the Federation had to go to war with them) I've decided that she'll be evenly matched with the SNS Galaxy X. This will make the ship a real threat to the standard Galaxy and the mid 24th century Federation in general, but it won't be unbeatable; a well utilized Sovereign would probably win. I think this will make it fun to use as well as keep it canon.