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Title: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: King Class Scout on March 14, 2010, 08:17:00 PM
NOT something that should be popping up nowadays.

Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: Nebula on March 14, 2010, 08:31:05 PM
ch'ink?? it can mean many things but this is also in Klingon so its meaning is completely different....

Dictionary reff:
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Chink is a racial slur for a person of Chinese descent. Chink may also mean a small crevice or opening, often referring to a weakness such as a "chink in the armor", but also in purely descriptive contexts such as a chink between two bricks. ...
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: King Class Scout on March 14, 2010, 08:46:27 PM
I'm assuming, from the rest of the punny Klingon registry names, that it has the derogatory meaning in mind.  been trying to find the py those are hiding in to have a chuckle...till I ran into that.
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: Nebula on March 14, 2010, 10:06:48 PM
I doubt the names were ever made with the derogatory meaning in mind.
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: Morgan on March 14, 2010, 10:23:07 PM
While I agree in thinking that the KM team didn't have any derogatory meaning in mind when they entered ship names, I can see where KCS is coming from. @Neb maybe you can ask Defiant to change it for the next version of KM. If KCS found it offensive there maybe others who have simply not spoken up.
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: Kirk on March 14, 2010, 10:58:10 PM
If KCS found it offensive there maybe others who have simply not spoken up.
In fact, we might as well assume the whole of the BC community was offended and was too scared of Defiant to say anything. :roll
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: Morgan on March 15, 2010, 12:44:45 AM
If KCS found it offensive there maybe others who have simply not spoken up.
In fact, we might as well assume the whole of the BC community was offended and was too scared of Defiant to say anything. :roll
Dude I was trying to be an adult here, thanks for the sarcasm... :roll
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: King Class Scout on March 15, 2010, 10:36:20 AM
thanks for moving it, Jimmy.

does anyone know where the file for generating these names is?
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: Nebula on March 15, 2010, 11:42:20 AM
here is where it is located:

scripts\Custom\QBautostart\Libs\Racesd\Klingon.py

and here is the list of names:

EDIT: yeah after reading some of the names I think someone ran out of ideas...
 
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"IKS NI'yIN",
"IKS Non'urgh",
"IKS Qun'jIH",
"IKS Nagh'SIS",
"IKS Pol'Quj",
"IKS Jach'Saj",
"IKS JorwI'apoq",
"IKS Sup'tIch",
"IKS HoH'bIH",
"IKS 'Iw'pub",
"IKS YepHa'Hub",
"IKS Qut'a'Dol",
"IKS LeSpoH'qI'",
"IKS WIH'Hotlh",
"IKS JIH'wIv",
"IKS NgeH'che'",
"IKS Chaq ta'Soppu'bogh",
"IKS Ghew'e'lo'wamwl",
"IKS Qa'ang",
"IKS Sop ghaH",
"IKS Qi'tu'Daq",
"IKS QaStaHvis",
"IKS Ghah'ochDaq",
"IKS Pa'ylnejll",
"IKS Hur Daq",
"IKS LuDech",
"IKS Vav buSba",
"IKS Qechvam",
"IKS Qelqa'lu'neSQo'jaj",
"IKS DaHjaj'oh",
"IKS Ghel'Di'ylaj",
"IKS Bangjaj'e",
"IKS QorwaghDaq",
"IKS TuQpa",
"IKS BasDaS",
"IKS Jach Pagh",
"IKS SuH'ovelya",
"IKS MpuDl'rlntaH",
"IKS 'lHbogh",
"IKS Heghpu'ej",
"IKS Hurgh'ragh",
"IKS TajHu'",
"IKS Duy'Hub",
"IKS Begh'poQ",
"IKS Wuv'a'tem",
"IKS Deb'choS",
"IKS Ghoch'ragh",
"IKS Ghar'Qotlh",
"IKS Qugh'tung",
"IKS Tu'a'rop",
"IKS Nay'par",
"IKS GhoH'Sot",
"IKS Do'Ha'",
"IKS Jiyajbe'",
"IKS VIghajbe'",
"IKS Hijol'peng",
"IKS Mich'pagh",
"IKS Qup'SoH",
"IKS TlhIH'Hu",
"IKS Hob'DIS",
"IKS Chong'pogh",
"IKS TaD'moH",
"IKS Huj'a'SIp",
"IKS Dun'wo'",
"IKS Vut'bol",
"IKS Maw'HeSwI'",
"IKS QuHvaj'Qob",
"IKS Tar'be'",
"IKS Qul'bIQ",
"IKS Jib'lalDan",
"IKS Hegh'QeDp",
"IKS Hob'DIS",
"IKS Qap'ghargh",
"IKS Luq'argh",
"IKS iqaD'nem",
"IKS MajQa'be'",
"IKS Qut'Such",
"IKS NaS'puchpa'",
"IKS LoS'maH",
"IKS Sap'leng",
"IKS JuS'mung",
"IKS RaQpo'juS",
"IKS SID'ghom",
"IKS BIQ'a'ngo'",
"IKS BI'ngo'",
"IKS Dom'SIS",
"IKS Dakh'yi'DIL",
"IKS Qo'",
"IKS Ylje'",
"IKS Yaj'a'",
"IKS Bllugh",
"IKS Jol ylchu'",
"IKS Gho'be'",
"IKS Doh'",
"IKS TIQ'IwSev",
"IKS TIH'Hich",
"IKS HuS'ngeb",
"IKS BImoqu'",
"IKS BInep",
"IKS YijatlhQo'",
"IKS Quoc'Truong",
"IKS Boog'aloo",
"IKS Yach'off",
"IKS Mierda",
"IKS Pen'deHo",
"IKS Azzassin",
"IKS Culo",
"IKS Poon'tang",
"IKS Geez",
"IKS Puto",
"IKS Verga",
"IKS Perra",
"IKS Pedo",
"IKS Caraho",
"IKS MukFug",
"IKS Sug'dik",
"IKS Shagnutz",
"IKS Buk'fug",
"IKS Quak'ho",
"IKS Sheite",
"IKS Azzwiip",
"IKS Booti",
"IKS Qok'azz",
"IKS Batang",
"IKS Chin'gas",
"IKS Chinga'dera",
"IKS Mocho",
"IKS Yerk'ov",
"IKS Boo'gar",
"IKS Scheissa",
"IKS Futza",
"IKS Boo'gi",
"IKS Cra'pola",
"IKS Fuz'nuz",
"IKS Mooki",
"IKS Wisz",
"IKS Ratshiz",
"IKS Budtfug",
"IKS Hrastich",
"IKS Juk'bax",
"IKS Mierda",
"IKS puuq vI'legh",
"IKS DaSpu'",
"IKS Wa'maH cha",
"IKS Ghorgh 'ju",
"IKS Hegh'qang",
"IKS MaDo'choH",
"IKS Ji'SoptaH",
"IKS Pa'vo'yIjaH",
"IKS Visu'Qo",
"IKS Jigz",
"IKS Beet'ov",
"IKS jer'Kov",
"IKS Poon'tang",
"IKS Pul'ga",
"IKS punQazzh",
"IKS nInj'Ah",
"IKS DraKula",
"IKS Ma'maH cha",
"IKS Hoo'chi'maMa",
"IKS Dung'qang",
"IKS ArrmpiT",
"IKS ButHool",
"IKS Piz'on'yaH",
"IKS Eaat'Me",
"IKS Blo'jobba",
"IKS Haba'la'babba",
"IKS farTstnk",
"IKS Baad'smel",
"IKS YeeHa",
"IKS Woohaa",
"IKS Buutfug",
"IKS Azzpikr",
"IKS Eaatshid",
"IKS Horzazz",
"IKS GuufBal",
"IKS Bulshid",
"IKS ouThowz",
"IKS Que'erz",
"IKS Faggz",
"IKS Furtsniif",
"IKS puk oI'lagh",
"IKS Das Puuk'",
"IKS Wa'maH cha",
"IKS Ghorgh'wiz",
"IKS Hegh'funk",
"IKS MacIn'toj",
"IKS Wizon'yU",
"IKS Pa'vlo'v",
"IKS Vickzu'Qo",
"IKS Dok'craap",
"IKS Jer'kof",
"IKS Horz Poope",
"IKS Nipo",
"IKS Azz'fuk",
"IKS ET me",
"IKS Punk",
"IKS Nutz",
"IKS Balz'tuYu",
"IKS yU stnk",
"IKS Dumazz",
"IKS Puzee",
"IKS Wa'maH cha",
"IKS Onhunglo",
"IKS Puke'ya",
"IKS Barfnak",
"IKS Quisno",
"IKS Yuk",
"IKS Zitfac",
"IKS oo Gly",
"IKS Hurl'up",
"IKS Kraust",
"IKS Ch'ink",
"IKS Bat'crp",
"IKS fa'Art",
"IKS Hangh'frut",
"IKS MaDo'gz",
"IKS Dob'SotaH",
"IKS Pak'vu'yIjuH",
"IKS Vizu'Qok",
"IKS Snott",
"IKS FarQ",
"IKS Cheez'wiz",
"IKS Tarnexh",
"IKS Jihz",
"IKS Pizz",
"IKS Fagut",
"IKS Frute",
"IKS Slurpi",
"IKS Querfagg",
"IKS Smelit",
"IKS Bougar",
"IKS Nigwiz",
"IKS Qok'Yu",
"IKS Chin'gado",
"IKS pen'Deha",
"IKS fuk'Yu",
"IKS Buzznutzs",
"IKS Chingas",
"IKS Wazup",
"IKS Wa'zoo",
"IKS Ustinc",
"IKS Chichi",
"IKS Fartnutz",
"IKS Dofus",
"IKS Hoo'terz",
"IKS uP'chuk",
"IKS Likmi",
"IKS Com'paq",
"IKS pU zee",
"IKS Fug' me",
"IKS Regur'Ge",
"IKS Fug'slutz",
"IKS Tur'rd",
"IKS Up'yurz",
"IKS StikIt",
"IKS Scwanz",
"IKS Atu'fon'dulu",
"IKS muTha",
"IKS Slurpi",
"IKS Snotola",
"IKS Dawg'shid",
"IKS DihaRia",
"IKS Zinj",
"IKS Baklath",
"IKS Quezin'arT",
"IKS Foochi",
"IKS Jo'mamaz",
"IKS Whee'zer",
"IKS Goofla",
"IKS Wang'chng",
"IKS Schit",
"IKS SchniTzl",
"IKS Fongulu",
"IKS Whoopur",
"IKS FuxIt",
"IKS Fuuzbot",
"IKS Mo'jo",
"IKS Pooch",
"IKS WeeNur",
"IKS Blarnay",
"IKS FugZit",
"IKS Doork",
"IKS Whazoo",
"IKS aNuz",
"IKS VaGinle",
"IKS WaHaaka",
"IKS Luzer",
"IKS WhiimP",
"IKS DoH",
"IKS Yoma'maz",
"IKS Chi'nko",
"IKS Mad're",
"IKS Gadzookz",
"IKS Muud",
"IKS Baarfuup",
"IKS Woozniak",
"IKS Who'Ya",
"IKS YurbuTT",
"IKS LeDuk",
"IKS ItcHit",
"IKS Chu'onDiz",
"IKS Pulga",
"IKS EeTraTz",
"IKS MoDjuH",
"IKS MaHma'sux",
"IKS Dong'yag",
"IKS Sux",
"IKS Saz QuacH",
"IKS Lok Nez",
"IKS Wuzit",
"IKS Mojav",
"IKS ITH ica",
"IKS Goop Quon",
"IKS MongHrel",
"IKS Suqit",
"IKS Dumbazz",
"IKS BuulcrapH",
"IKS QuSmel",
"IKS HokeDoHki",
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: Lionus on March 15, 2010, 12:44:04 PM
plenty of funny and even rude ones there..  :funny
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: Morgan on March 15, 2010, 01:42:32 PM
IKS Verga  :funny

If you know Spanish you know why that's funny.
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: Lionus on March 15, 2010, 01:55:34 PM
plenty of Spanish funnies there indeed..
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: Billz on March 15, 2010, 05:03:28 PM
I agree that there are some less than acceptable names there, even if they were made to sound Klingon. But it shouldn't be enough to offend anyone. Neb hit it right on the nail. After the first few names, looks like the original creator got bored.

"IKS Chu'onDiz"
^ I lol'd.  :funny
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: JimmyB76 on March 15, 2010, 06:14:00 PM
i think i shall captain the IKS Querfagg   :funny
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: deadthunder2_0 on March 15, 2010, 07:25:21 PM
"IKS fuk'Yu", (LOL)
"IKS Gadzookz", If you had read The Fire Within Series, you would have heard of this one
"IKS fa'Art", (Wow, just wow)
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: King Class Scout on March 15, 2010, 07:26:10 PM
watch it, Jimmy :P

they ran out of words long before they Klingonized words like "pootie tang".  when they name a ship "Capische?"(Yaj'A), they cleaned out the klingon dictonary.

I just went over the other lists.  I think the borg designations are area codes and zip codes, and the cardy ones appear to be welsh words.
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: Morgan on March 15, 2010, 08:54:37 PM
Worf: "Commander, Chancellor Gowron's ship is hailing."
Riker: "On screen, lieutenant."
Klingon Captain: "This is the Klingon vessel Hoo'chi'maMa. We are ready to receive your captain."
Riker: "Acknowledged Hoo'chi'maMa. Captain Picard will beam to your vessel momentarily."

 :funny  You can tell a 14 year old made this list. A lot is funny but some just doesn't work or is inappropriate.
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: Kirk on March 15, 2010, 10:13:18 PM
I really can't see the problem with this. If Jimmy can laugh off "IKS Querfagg," why can't some white guys laugh off IKS Ch'ink? The term has nothing to do with you. Why should you care?
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: Mario on March 16, 2010, 05:00:22 AM
This is from Galaxy Charts probably done by USS Frontier and please give me a break, I know well enough what's it to run out of ideas. BTW USS Frontier is from Brazil.
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: Nebula on March 16, 2010, 07:48:17 AM
this is from a KM 1.0 install GC is not installed.
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: Billz on March 16, 2010, 07:50:04 AM
This is from Galaxy Charts probably done by USS Frontier and please give me a break, I know well enough what's it to run out of ideas. BTW USS Frontier is from Brazil.

This actually originated from the Distress Signal mod.
http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/Distress_Signal;38125

Check the file structure and see for yourself.
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: King Class Scout on March 16, 2010, 08:10:14 AM
Sovereign: relax, man.  I'd worry more about any Asian-American players that are touchy
Nebs: actually, i have GC in.  I DLed it right after KM.  too bad it's too much for my graphics card to handle for more than 15 minutes.
Kirk: N word privileges, if your implying what I think your implying.
Billz: "brazil" explains a lot.  there seem to be a lot of modders down there, anymore (i have some for another game with a prevalence of Brazilian modders).  i smell a new Korea...
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: Nebula on March 16, 2010, 08:11:51 AM
read "Billz" last post... again this isn't from GC.
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: Mario on March 16, 2010, 08:12:25 AM
I recall him doing many modifications to Defiant's file. Oh well my bad.
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: Kirk on March 16, 2010, 10:00:37 AM
Kirk: N word privileges, if your implying what I think your implying.
What are you on about?
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: Villain on March 16, 2010, 10:31:08 AM
i think i shall captain the IKS Querfagg   :funny

Oh boy, complete with atmospheric Flight/Re-entry?  :funny :P

I really can't see the problem with this. If Jimmy can laugh off "IKS Querfagg," why can't some white guys laugh off IKS Ch'ink? The term has nothing to do with you. Why should you care?

Exactly what everyone should be thinking.

Sovereign: relax, man.  I'd worry more about any Asian-American players that are touchy
Nebs: actually, i have GC in.  I DLed it right after KM.  too bad it's too much for my graphics card to handle for more than 15 minutes.
Kirk: N word privileges, if your implying what I think your implying.
Billz: "brazil" explains a lot.  there seem to be a lot of modders down there, anymore (i have some for another game with a prevalence of Brazilian modders).  i smell a new Korea...

If someone is offended by it, clearly they're not ready for browsing the internet. Otherwise, we might as well just start giving ship blank registries because there's too much of a chance someone would get insulted by pretty much anything.

It is not about privelages, it is about awareness. There are no such thing as "N word privelages", and if there were a word in there (The Klingon list) that resembled it, it would just as easily be argued that it was generated using Latin, from where the derogatory version originated, which is also the far more likely explanation. If you go to any random word generator you're bound to stumble upon something you perceive as offensive, as there are only so many combinations of letters possible when you limit it to 15 letters max.

I don't quite get what you mean by "New Korea"? As in, where all the mods are starting to come from?  Never seen a korean mod before.  :wtf

Tl;dr: Everything can be offensive, it's all about perspective. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perspective_(cognitive) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perspective_(cognitive))
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: King Class Scout on March 16, 2010, 02:14:55 PM
Prime: there's one in every crowd, people that take everything seriously, and I'm erring on the side of caution.
Brazilians hav been coming off as being especially brilliant in some areas, lately.  I was comparing this to the sudden rise of korea in the automotive industry.
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: Kirk on March 16, 2010, 03:07:05 PM
Our modders from Brazil have been around since 2003 dude.
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: Dalek on March 16, 2010, 03:21:30 PM
To continue Kirks post in a slightly offcourse way, LC is Brazilian.
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: Bones on March 16, 2010, 06:25:29 PM
I like Brazillian chicks they're hot but who cares anyway  ;)
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: JimmyB76 on March 16, 2010, 07:04:29 PM
as far as the point of this thread goes, neb pointed out where to find all the names of ships - if anyone finds them distatseful or offensive, they can change their installs... (altho that would kill MP, but then youd have to decide which is more important to you...)
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: Shadowknight1 on March 16, 2010, 08:18:21 PM
I just want to know why the random name generator randomly assigned a Federation ship name to a Klingon BOP?  And named it the USS Bounty at that.  :P
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: Kirk on March 16, 2010, 08:27:09 PM
Ever watched The Voyage Home?
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: deadthunder2_0 on March 16, 2010, 08:46:36 PM
the bop was HMS Bounty
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: Bones on March 17, 2010, 02:15:16 AM
Aye, Bones, with typicall for himself irony, gave the ship name of HMS Bounty, kinda weird that red lettering is only visible while it's landed on Volcan, then in various shots, letter just disappear, I guess I didn't want to get one and only BoP model get messed with terran name cuz they would have to repaint it... lazyness or low budget :wtf
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: King Class Scout on March 17, 2010, 07:20:40 AM
Jimmy, all you'd have to do is edit the offensive name in the existing list (which I shoudla done, but I didn't know where the names were).  this also gives me a couple ideas, myself.  i think I'm gonna set up the JJverse ships seperately, and apply that "race def" trick with them.

note: really, they threw the TVH gag in?  never had that crop up.
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: Kirk on March 17, 2010, 05:06:24 PM
Jimmy, all you'd have to do is edit the offensive name in the existing list
That's exactly what he said.
if anyone finds them distatseful or offensive, they can change their installs
Change here, meaning edit.
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: JimmyB76 on March 17, 2010, 05:41:49 PM
to clarify, i meant change the file in their installs lol

and im disappointed there is no USS Sam in that roster  :arms:
so i shall have to change the file for my install :P

and since there is already a USS Raging Queen out there, no need for that one lol :P
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: Kirk on March 17, 2010, 06:22:01 PM
and since there is already a USS Raging Queen out there, no need for that one lol :P
I lol'd. +krama for that
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: Villain on March 20, 2010, 07:34:03 AM
and since there is already a USS Raging Queen out there, no need for that one lol :P
I lol'd. +krama for that

Seconded.  :funny
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: Billz on March 20, 2010, 07:37:11 AM
and since there is already a USS Raging Queen out there, no need for that one lol  :P

Karma'd.  :sam:
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: Hellsgate on July 19, 2010, 07:26:56 PM
How about the S.S. Bitchslap, a generic Federation freighter that has script permitting it to launch Valkyrie-Class/Banzai-Class/Gryphon-Class fighters for an ambush campaign?
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: 086gf on July 20, 2010, 02:14:25 PM
Yeah, obviously not what this thread WAS about. >_>
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: King Class Scout on July 20, 2010, 02:59:25 PM
holy thread zombie, batman.

the original purpose of this thread was to point out that some of the names in the ship list for Gal charts would be termed derogatory.  I got my answer on how to deal with this.

jimmy, would you please lock or delete this thread, now?  I don't wanna have to go get my Resident Evil suit out :P
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: Bones on July 22, 2010, 01:26:40 PM
why batman anyway ? I must have missed something but why do we say holy thread resurrection batman or something like that ??? and don't even dare to laugh at me ! :funny
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: DJ Curtis on July 22, 2010, 01:46:17 PM
It's from the old Batman TV series in the 60's.  Robin would say to Batman: "Holy Bearded Bandits, Batman!" ... Or something to that effect.
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: Bones on July 22, 2010, 02:05:53 PM
oh lol :funny now I see thx DJ ;)
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: King Class Scout on July 22, 2010, 08:39:26 PM
try to get or see the undubbed version.  they worked a "holy X Y Batman" into Batman and Robin, which was considered part of the reason it sucked.  too bad.  arni made a great Freeze.
Title: Re: Ship Name Generator Derogatory name!
Post by: 086gf on July 23, 2010, 04:15:15 PM
We need a dancing lock smilie...Jimmeh!