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Title: New Godzilla and more ID4 Movies
Post by: 086gf on April 05, 2010, 10:01:04 PM
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New Godzilla heading to the big screen
Legendary Pictures has finalized a deal with the Toho Company for a big screen adaptation of "Godzilla". Unsurprisingly, this won?t be a sequel to Roland Emmerich?s 1998 film, but instead will be a re-imagining of the original "Godzilla" movies. Legendary Pictures is expected to announce a director soon. Warner Brothers will co-finance and co-produce with Legendary Pictures and will distribute domestically, with Toho handling distribution in Japan. A release ? possibly in 3D ? has been slated for sometime in 2012.

It will be interesting to see what they keep the same and whats different. Im definitly going to be seeing this for sure.

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Will Smith locked for two more Independence Day movies?
There have been rumors for some time surrounding 20th Century Fox?s desires to make a sequel to the 1996 blockbuster "Independence Day" and now IESB is reporting that the studio is finally ready to move forward with not one, but two sequels and Will Smith is locked in for both, with filming possibly starting as soon as 2011. Roland Emmerich is expected to return to direct the films.

I hope to god they use the "cleanup ship" script from a few years ago. I've always wondered about how humanity and the Earth look like a decade or so after the events of the movie. I can't wait!
Title: Re: New Godzilla and more ID4 Movies
Post by: JimmyB76 on April 06, 2010, 07:29:52 PM
hmmmmm  i dunno what to think...

more laziness from hollywood rehashing already-done ideas? lol

a new ID4 movie - sure it would be neat to see the "aftermath" of the original (will it have any of the original actors?  i imagine it wouldnt, but it would be awesome if it did) - but how far can one actually go with that?  wasnt the alien ship destroyed?  (its been a while since ive seen it)
Title: Re: New Godzilla and more ID4 Movies
Post by: Nebula on April 06, 2010, 08:17:06 PM
yes the Mothership in ID4 was destroyed and all the little ones crashed but I can't really see an entire alien civilization living in only one ship.
Title: Re: New Godzilla and more ID4 Movies
Post by: Joshmaul on April 06, 2010, 08:33:17 PM
yes the Mothership in ID4 was destroyed and all the little ones crashed but I can't really see an entire alien civilization living in only one ship.

Maybe they're like the Daleks. You keep wiping them out, they keep coming back.
Title: Re: New Godzilla and more ID4 Movies
Post by: Psyco Diver on April 07, 2010, 01:16:54 AM
I would imagine their the invasion force and there to destroy all humans and begin getting the planet ready for the rest of the aliens coming

in 10 years? I would say pretty damn advanced considering all the new technology available
Title: Re: New Godzilla and more ID4 Movies
Post by: Darkthunder on April 07, 2010, 01:39:57 AM
yes the Mothership in ID4 was destroyed and all the little ones crashed but I can't really see an entire alien civilization living in only one ship.

Your forgetting one thing thou. Bill Pullman's character, when his mind was linked with one of the aliens, he compared the aliens to locusts. Once they have consumed all the raw materials of a planet, they move onto the next one. So its not entirely outside the realm of possibility, that the aliens are simply a "1-ship civilization". Still, I would love to see a sequel or two to ID4.
Title: Re: New Godzilla and more ID4 Movies
Post by: Bones on April 07, 2010, 04:09:28 AM
yes the Mothership in ID4 was destroyed and all the little ones crashed but I can't really see an entire alien civilization living in only one ship.

Your forgetting one thing thou. Bill Pullman's character, when his mind was linked with one of the aliens, he compared the aliens to locusts. Once they have consumed all the raw materials of a planet, they move onto the next one. So its not entirely outside the realm of possibility, that the aliens are simply a "1-ship civilization". Still, I would love to see a sequel or two to ID4.
Or they are nomad species traveling throughout the space and they have more motherships. I hope it won't be same crap like G.I. Joe :facepalm:
Title: Re: New Godzilla and more ID4 Movies
Post by: 1DeadlySAMURAI on April 07, 2010, 06:02:00 AM
Or they are nomad species traveling throughout the space and they have more motherships. I hope it won't be same crap like G.I. Joe :facepalm:

I got the impression from Bill Pullman's character that they only have one mothership.

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I saw... its thoughts. I saw what they're planning to do. They're like locusts. They're moving from planet to planet... their whole civilization. After they've consumed every natural resource they move on... and we're next. Nuke 'em. Let's nuke the bastards.
Title: Re: New Godzilla and more ID4 Movies
Post by: Villain on April 07, 2010, 10:30:56 AM
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I saw... its thoughts. I saw what they're planning to do. They're like locusts. They're moving from planet to planet... their whole civilization. After they've consumed every natural resource they move on... and we're next. Nuke 'em. Let's nuke the bastards.

Doesn't mean it's one ship, it just means their whole civilization move. Maybe they send waves in different directions?

Either way, both will be epic.
Title: Re: New Godzilla and more ID4 Movies
Post by: Billz on April 07, 2010, 05:23:13 PM
An ID4 sequel had better be done well though. Roland Emmerich movies haven't been particularly great after ID4 was made. Godzilla, 10,000BC, The Day After Tomorrow, 2012 are prime examples of how bad his movies have become.

ID4 and Stargate were Rolands only great films.
With that in mind, I hope the sequels for ID4 get CANCELLED. They would suffer the 'sequel suckage' curse. And with Roland at the helm, that curse would probably be amplified.  :P
Title: Re: New Godzilla and more ID4 Movies
Post by: Kirk on April 07, 2010, 05:26:15 PM
Not all sequels suck.
Title: Re: New Godzilla and more ID4 Movies
Post by: 1DeadlySAMURAI on April 07, 2010, 05:33:53 PM
Not all sequels suck.

They're the exception that proves the rule.
Title: Re: New Godzilla and more ID4 Movies
Post by: Bones on April 08, 2010, 01:51:36 AM
An ID4 sequel had better be done well though. Roland Emmerich movies haven't been particularly great after ID4 was made. Godzilla, 10,000BC, The Day After Tomorrow, 2012 are prime examples of how bad his movies have become.

ID4 and Stargate were Rolands only great films.
With that in mind, I hope the sequels for ID4 get CANCELLED. They would suffer the 'sequel suckage' curse. And with Roland at the helm, that curse would probably be amplified.  :P
And that's why I'm not too fond of sequels, the plot will be predictable, acting will be crappy and of course there will be crapload of special FX, also expect those dumb monologs like : god save us all (second later, country anthem can be heard) or silly ones like : die.... you ugly mother f.... :facepalm: .... that latter one was what killed AVP in the first place, then plot gone and everything else was chain reaction... same will be here I'm affraid... when Roland runs out of smart dialogs he will put there few F-words and say : 'it's settled :thumbsup:' ... no it isn't settled... why can't we get movies like Aliens or Predator(originals from 80s') (not similiar in plot but in quality, climate, acting etc.etc.etc.)
Title: Re: New Godzilla and more ID4 Movies
Post by: Morgan on April 08, 2010, 02:02:00 AM
And that's why I'm not too fond of sequels, the plot will be predictable, acting will be crappy and of course there will be crapload of special FX, also expect those dumb monologs like : god save us all (second later, country anthem can be heard) or silly ones like : die.... you ugly mother f.... :facepalm: .... that latter one was what killed AVP in the first place, then plot gone and everything else was chain reaction... same will be here I'm affraid... when Roland runs out of smart dialogs he will put there few F-words and say : 'it's settled :thumbsup:' ... no it isn't settled... why can't we get movies like Aliens or Predator(originals from 80s') (not similiar in plot but in quality, climate, acting etc.etc.etc.)
That's why God invented "Direct to DVD."  :)
Title: Re: New Godzilla and more ID4 Movies
Post by: Bones on April 08, 2010, 02:40:04 AM
And that's why I'm not too fond of sequels, the plot will be predictable, acting will be crappy and of course there will be crapload of special FX, also expect those dumb monologs like : god save us all (second later, country anthem can be heard) or silly ones like : die.... you ugly mother f.... :facepalm: .... that latter one was what killed AVP in the first place, then plot gone and everything else was chain reaction... same will be here I'm affraid... when Roland runs out of smart dialogs he will put there few F-words and say : 'it's settled :thumbsup:' ... no it isn't settled... why can't we get movies like Aliens or Predator(originals from 80s') (not similiar in plot but in quality, climate, acting etc.etc.etc.)
That's why God invented "Direct to DVD."  :)

And what is that miraculous thing ??? share this knowledge with me :funny
Title: Re: New Godzilla and more ID4 Movies
Post by: Joshmaul on April 08, 2010, 06:18:20 AM
And what is that miraculous thing ??? share this knowledge with me :funny

It's what they've done (along with direct-to-video) with every Land Before Time movie after the first one....we're up to twelve sequels, and they're planning two more. And none of them had anything to do with Don Bluth, Steven Spielberg, or George Lucas (who were the producers of the original movie).
Title: Re: New Godzilla and more ID4 Movies
Post by: Bones on April 08, 2010, 06:21:23 AM
And what is that miraculous thing ??? share this knowledge with me :funny

It's what they've done (along with direct-to-video) with every Land Before Time movie after the first one....we're up to twelve sequels, and they're planning two more. And none of them had anything to do with Don Bluth, Steven Spielberg, or George Lucas (who were the producers of the original movie).
oh... that... :funny
Title: Re: New Godzilla and more ID4 Movies
Post by: Kirk on April 08, 2010, 10:46:32 AM
 :wtf You used Land Before Time as an example, instead of the Stargate movies?
Title: Re: New Godzilla and more ID4 Movies
Post by: Morgan on April 08, 2010, 02:17:28 PM
In other words it's what they do with all the crap movies that they don't expect to make any money off of but yet for some unknown reason choose to produce anyway. Still Waiting is the perfect example of one of these crap Direct to DVD sequels.
Title: Re: New Godzilla and more ID4 Movies
Post by: Joshmaul on April 08, 2010, 05:41:48 PM
:wtf You used Land Before Time as an example, instead of the Stargate movies?

I wasn't aware there were any SG movies beyond the one that started it. Then again, beyond the one, and bits and pieces of the three series, I've not seen much of it...I admit I'm not much of a Stargate fan (yeah, throw your rocks at me, I don't watch it, lol).
Title: Re: New Godzilla and more ID4 Movies
Post by: eclipse74569 on April 08, 2010, 07:15:12 PM
:wtf You used Land Before Time as an example, instead of the Stargate movies?

I wasn't aware there were any SG movies beyond the one that started it. Then again, beyond the one, and bits and pieces of the three series, I've not seen much of it...I admit I'm not much of a Stargate fan (yeah, throw your rocks at me, I don't watch it, lol).

*gets his boulder ready* :P

I have to say I'm not entirely fond of the idea of sequals...OR remakes...Why not just make something fricken original  :banghead:
Title: Re: New Godzilla and more ID4 Movies
Post by: Tuskin38 on April 10, 2010, 09:40:07 PM
Prequels some times suck too.
Title: Re: New Godzilla and more ID4 Movies
Post by: Kirk on April 10, 2010, 10:27:33 PM
Looking at you Star Wars.
Title: Re: New Godzilla and more ID4 Movies
Post by: Shadowknight1 on April 11, 2010, 01:34:24 AM
Looking at you Star Wars.
:yeahthat:  The problems with the Star Wars prequels were bad editing(Episode III needed at least another hour thrown in), bad writing and characters(Jar Jar), and bad actor chemistry(Hayden Christensen and Natalie Portman were wooden at best in their scenes together).  Thank goodness Star Trek 2009 turned out better.
Title: Re: New Godzilla and more ID4 Movies
Post by: Bones on April 11, 2010, 09:14:30 AM
at least they didn't throw fool like jar jar into ST2009 ;) and yeah, got to agree on SW prequels, better choice of actors and less silly-comedy moments and special FX would help a lot but unfortunately Lucas aimed for kids&teenagers with prequels, while he should've aimed for wider audience (adults too... and I mean no sex or things like that but much more serious approach to the plot - just like in original trilogy)
Title: Re: New Godzilla and more ID4 Movies
Post by: Morgan on April 12, 2010, 03:46:18 AM
When you take away the very poorly written and acted romantic scenes, Episodes II and III aren't that bad, although I really didn't care for Episode I (I despise Jar Jar Binks like I despise a hemorrhoid). Of course the prequels are FAR from the quality of the originals.

This sentence is an excuse to use this emoticon:   :SWvST:
Title: Re: New Godzilla and more ID4 Movies
Post by: Tuskin38 on April 13, 2010, 05:00:09 PM
Only one I really like is EP3.
Title: Re: New Godzilla and more ID4 Movies
Post by: Shadowknight1 on April 19, 2010, 09:17:51 PM
at least they didn't throw fool like jar jar into ST2009 ;)

Some people would toss out Keenster as an example there.  I personally liked him.
Title: Re: New Godzilla and more ID4 Movies
Post by: Kirk on April 19, 2010, 10:05:45 PM
Keenster is not a giant, talking, retarded rabbit.
Title: Re: New Godzilla and more ID4 Movies
Post by: Bones on April 20, 2010, 01:27:41 AM
Keenster is not a giant, talking, retarded rabbit.
yeah and he definately didn't act like retarded rabbit... at least he didn't talk much
Title: Re: New Godzilla and more ID4 Movies
Post by: mckinneyc on April 21, 2010, 07:03:52 PM
I take sequels on a movie for movie basis.

I think a squel has to build upon but be as strong or stronger than the first film in terms of plot, characters, action etc. They have to be good stand alone films.

It can be hard to do and can fall down, examples being the Star Wars prequels, Indiana Jones 4 and the third Jurrasic Park film.

I await Transformers 3 and the next Star Trek film to see if they can keep a good run going.