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Recreational Forums => Other Sci-Fi Discussion => Topic started by: Starforce2 on July 22, 2010, 03:24:34 AM
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Seems to me I remember seeing a trailer or something to that effect of never ending story remake? Anyone else? Also I've sound alot of results for remakes of flight of the navigator but nothing past june of 09. ANyone else who's up on this news know the progress on these? Or anything more recent?
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Will the Never Ending Story never end?!!!!!!
Flight of Navigator hasn't been on tv in the UK for ages. It always used to be shown on Bank Holidays.
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WTF!? Is nothing sacred anymore? Why pay to see a crappy remake when you can watch the original thing? Oh wait, I know! Its so that they can show off how big their VFX budget is. :banghead:
A good example of a copy paste with big budget FX thrown in is Cameron's Avatar. Say what you want but all it is is a remake of Dances With Wolves. In Space. With Giant Blue ALIENS!!!! :hithead:
Seriously, why even bother going to the movie theater anymore? Chances are you already know what's gonna happen. Which is why Netflix keeps me sane. :thumbsup:
\end rant.....
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I liked those movies, espacially , flight of the navigator , I havent heard anythin about remakes tho
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I think I've heard rumors that a Never Ending reboot has been in "development hell" for years. most likely, due to copyright issues or something.
edit: i just thought of another reason. there might be too many remakes/reboots out there. I've been hearing a lot of complaints about the fact that Hollywood is no longer creating original ideas, but simply redoing old movies with modern CG technology for the iGeneration to go OOH and AAH over.
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oh yippie!! another remake! another story redone that will be remade into a weaker and cheesier storyline but overblown with visual fx so it is all flash and no substance!! we can never have too many of those! i really do enjoy seeing things i have already seen, only dumbed down and flashed out! anyone who thinks that a movie with a fresh new idea and something unique and never done before is just crazy! thats too much effort, and then the hollywood moguls would have to spend more money into their movie rather than keep it for their own pockets! anyone who thinks that truly entertaining audiences with the most effort possible instead of feeding them things they have already been fed is just silly!
ok, ya - that was pure 100% sarcasm (in case anyone thought i was being serious)...
what on earth will hollywood do when they run out of movies/tv shows from the 80s to remake?? there are only so many movies from the 80s and all...
this is so ridiculous... what the frack has happened to hollywood in the last decade?? just about everything is stupid reality shows on television instead of fresh new sitcoms or dramas, and every movie is a remake! is this what people want?? it seems so, since stupid effortless (unless you work in the CGI dept) movies make millions... people really are becoming more and more like dumb sheep now... sad, really...
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Writers on Hollywood can't come up with original ideas anymore. They and the studios want a quick buck so it's easier to take something that has been done, something that people like, slap FX all over it, dumb down the plot and sit back and watch the millions roll in.
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Writers on Hollywood can't won't come up with original ideas anymore. They and the studios want a quick buck so it's easier to take something that has been done, something that people like, slap FX all over it, dumb down the plot and sit back and watch the millions roll in.
fixed :)
and to add, it is a sad reflection to modern society that these movies make millions and millions because people have themselves become dumbed down and sheep-like...
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The Neverending Story is a perfect family fantsay that doesn't need to be remade. I am not ashamed to admit that it was one of my favorite movies as a kid. Neverending Story 2 and 3 blew chunks though.
I never got around to seeing Flight Of The Navigator all the way through, but a remake still seems unneeded.
Just throwing this out there:
I don't want to see it remade, but I would like to watch Explorers ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explorers_%28film%29 ) again. It's been years since I have seen it, and I would really like it on Blu-ray. Even the DVD is hard to find if you don't order it online.
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Jimmy you complete me! :funny
And you're right about todays movie go-ers, the kids and teenagers. It is just goldfish viewing.
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For someone who has seen the original neverending Story and loved it to bits (despite the fact I was small when I saw it and the last hour of the film gave me nightmares), I can definitely tell that a remake would be murder.
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Okay, I'll step into the crossfire.
I tend to think that there are some movies that it might be nice to see redone. I've been wanting to see a remake of Navigator for a couple of years. The original was cheesy, anyway. How would Hollywood writers make it any more so? And it would be fascinating to see a CGI version of the ship's android.
So what if Hollywood remakes movies? It isn't as though this is something new . . . a fair number of the movies from the 90s were remakes of stuff from the 50s, 60s and 70s. And as for Hollywood not writing well-crafted, original screenplays in the past ten years:
Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, Fight Club, Children of Men, The Matrix, American Beauty, American History X, Saving Private Ryan, Amelie, WALL-E, The Pianist, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Requiem for a Dream, LA Confidential, Pan's Labyrinth, The Prestige, Inglourious Basterds, Up, Gran Torino, Sin City, Gladiator, Slumdog Millionaire, District 9.
Those are just off the top of my head, but you get the idea. It seems you're just not remembering what's good out there, and taking issue with the bad stuff. Avatar was actually a decent flick for what it was. Which was a retelling of Dances with Wolves. Big frakkin deal. How many times have they remade 7 Samurai in the past 50 years? And every single one was fantastic. The Magnificent 7 was even nominated for an Oscar!
I agree that The Neverending Story doesn't need to be remade, but if it does I will go see it. Just because it's a remake of something does NOT mean it automatically sucks. After all, a fair amount of Trek is just rehashing a lot of old episodes or characters. Trials and Tribble-ations, anyone? What about every Q episode of DS9 and Voyager? Or Lawaxana Troi's nightmarish-ly recurring role? Come on, all of it can't be absolutely original!
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The problem is the team of producers and directors and possibly the actors involved in the making of those remakes. The Batman films so far I've found to be absolutely fantastic and not just action flicks. However something like STXI managed to scrape it barely (I say this in account for all the haters and lovers of STXI) simply because it managed to attract a different audience, possibly because of the reputation of J.J. or just the general impact of Star Trek being redone.
This kind of fear can be seen in Doctor Who. When it first began broadcasting in '05, many of the original Whovians disliked it but there was also a huge newer and younger audience that loved it. Now in '10, the series producer and head writer changed and the show is now quite different to how it was before because of that producers aims and hopes. A lot of nuWho'ers disliked the new series while many others still love it and perhaps like it even more than before.
From that perspective, I think it is the fear of change and completely rewriting things that makes us say remaking stuff will be crap. I know I'd dread the day Michael Bay attempts to remake another "classic" story/franchise.
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Never said Avatar was a bad film. And I don't mind the occasional remake; if it's done well. Problem is that most of the time they focus too much on FX and not enough on the stuff that really matters. Although there are exceptions to this as with anything.
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The Neverending Story is a perfect family fantsay that doesn't need to be remade. I am not ashamed to admit that it was one of my favorite movies as a kid. Neverending Story 2 and 3 blew chunks though.
same here! i saw the 2nd one, yep it sucked... didnt know there was a 3rd... no interest in seeing it...
I never got around to seeing Flight Of The Navigator all the way through
i loved that movie also when i was a kid...
I tend to think that there are some movies that it might be nice to see redone. I've been wanting to see a remake of Navigator for a couple of years. The original was cheesy, anyway. How would Hollywood writers make it any more so? And it would be fascinating to see a CGI version of the ship's android.
well, sure, the original story might have been "cheesy", but it was the 80s lol that was the cheesetastic decade lol :P
but to kids, it wasnt cheesy at all actually... and if they did remake it an did it with class and style, and focused on content rather than just rehash a script for money, that might count for something... but i doubt that would be the case...
So what if Hollywood remakes movies? It isn't as though this is something new . . . a fair number of the movies from the 90s were remakes of stuff from the 50s, 60s and 70s.
perhaps... but in this decade, the storylines were not important as it was to make it look all sexy, flashy, CGI, and over the top dramatic to the point of ridiculousness... hollywood isnt even trying anymore lol
And as for Hollywood not writing well-crafted, original screenplays in the past ten years:
Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, Fight Club, Children of Men, The Matrix, American Beauty, American History X, Saving Private Ryan, Amelie, WALL-E, The Pianist, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Requiem for a Dream, LA Confidential, Pan's Labyrinth, The Prestige, Inglourious Basterds, Up, Gran Torino, Sin City, Gladiator, Slumdog Millionaire, District 9.
granted... now let's run down the list of all the remade movies, and see which list would be longer ;) that method of movie making is more the norm than it isnt...
After all, a fair amount of Trek is just rehashing a lot of old episodes or characters. Trials and Tribble-ations, anyone? What about every Q episode of DS9 and Voyager? Or Lawaxana Troi's nightmarish-ly recurring role?
ya and those eps of trek pretty much sucked lol as far as Lwaxana, well i guess thats one of the perks of being a show creator's wife lol :P besides, Lwaxana (albeit annoying) did have a number of really good moments for the show when a true character that had actual depth shown through...
And I don't mind the occasional remake; if it's done well. Problem is that most of the time they focus too much on FX and not enough on the stuff that really matters. Although there are exceptions to this as with anything.
i absolutely agree...
but more ultimately, im just personally sick of seeing things already done for the sake of sales... but why try when you can just resell stuff from 20 years ago and sadly that works? especially when you want to appeal to the nostalgia of people that are now in their late 20s to late 30s who were kids grew up with it originally...
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Agree with most of previous comments. :eek Much as I like NES, sfx were compromised by what possible in day and more importantly, the reason it worked was because of THE STORY (apologies for shouting :doh:). It's a classic, and will survive remake, as long as don't mess with it. Lot of films still work - Wizard of Oz, Metropolis, Forbidden Planet, 5000 Fingers of Dr T. Harryhausen classics - because despite their dated sfx, the story/characters/heart carry us through.
Curious: does anyone remember a Joe Dante film called Explorers? One of my all-time faves (with the great Picardo). I seriously doubt they'll remake that anytime, even though I think it's one of best (male) kids films ever made.
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Kids these days seem to have shorter attention spans.
So studios have got rid of plot in order to get these kids and their parents through the doors using flashy gimmicks.
I watched Sink the Bismark the other day from the 50s! Such a great film and nothing computer generated in sight. Historically accurate (not changed for money making) and beautifully built model ships and sets.
If writers can't think or original ideas then stick historical events as it has been written for you instead of remake after remake after CGI filled remake!
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And as for Hollywood not writing well-crafted, original screenplays in the past ten years:
Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, Fight Club, Children of Men, The Matrix, American Beauty, American History X, Saving Private Ryan, Amelie, WALL-E, The Pianist, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Requiem for a Dream, LA Confidential, Pan's Labyrinth, The Prestige, Inglourious Basterds, Up, Gran Torino, Sin City, Gladiator, Slumdog Millionaire, District 9.
Gotta add Inception to that list.
granted... now let's run down the list of all the remade movies, and see which list would be longer ;) that method of movie making is more the norm than it isnt...
There are more movies being made now than ever before; you can look anywhere and see some CGI-happy or cheesy remake. But you'll also find some pretty spectacular stuff as well.
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all these remakes are for late baby boomers and the eldest end of Gen X, who were the target age they're getting now when this all came out. the start of Gen X is now pushing forty, so maybe they figured on attracting nostalgia seeking Xers...but are getting the i(pod) generation instead.
every show and movie they're remaking happens to be from 83-86, the years when Gen X started turning into teens (which makes me feel BLOODY old).
i have the uLTIMATE bad idea for a remake. if they try and remake "battle Beyond the Stars", then they really WILL be out of ideas. for those of you that don't know, BBS is a remake of Magnificent 7 in space (complete with an M7 character playing his own role all over again), which is an americanized remake (WITH author approval) of Akira Kurosawa's Seven Samurai!
personally, just make me a copy of the hero's spaceship :P
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That's the point. KCS :yay: BBTS worked because it took great story/concept and transposed it to new setting. Even with RV :funny. No point doing remake because was of its time. i just wish more people would pay homage to AK for all his great work and influence (SS: M7, BBTS, Bug's Life), Hidden Fortress (Star Wars), Stray Dog (48 Hrs). And wrote original outline for Runway Train....
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every show and movie they're remaking happens to be from 83-86, the years when Gen X started turning into teens (which makes me feel BLOODY old).
i dont think you have those dates right... Gen Xers were teens from the early 80s to early 90s... i am in the Gen X age-group, and i was born in 1976...
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God damn I wish people would stop using "netspeak" stuff . . . it confuses the hell out of those of us that came from the era of handwriting letters . . . :funny
Whoops! Showing my age . . . :P
Anywho: I love seeing these types of discussions. They generate more note for the subject than is probably worthy. After all, this thread was started to discuss "The Neverendering Story" (are you really surprised?) and The Navigator.
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Whoops! Showing my age . . . :P
:roll oh please i got like half a decade on you :P
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:roll oh please i got like half a decade on you :P
Yeah, don't argue with Jimmy, he is OOOOOOOOLD :rotflmfao: Just kidding, Jimmy, you're not THAT old.
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they keep changing the start year for Gen X 'cause they can't decide where the baby Boomers end. I've heard the start of gen X as low as 1961, and as high as 1983! the best I've heard is that the Baby boomers occupy the slot from 1946-1972...the entirety of the heavy part of the cold war.
you want old? besides a few other people on here, me and baz are the old farts that commonly post. today happens to be my 37th, at 0857 EDST (1357 GMT) give or take daylight savings.. i saw Star Wars in the THEATER during it's first run!
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you want old? besides a few other people on here, me and baz are the old farts that commonly post. today happens to be my 37th, at 0857 EDST (1357 GMT) give or take daylight savings..
happy b-day! my 34th b-day is in a week and a half lol
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Jimmy you are almost exactly a decade older than me! How cool is that?
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they keep changing the start year for Gen X 'cause they can't decide where the baby Boomers end. I've heard the start of gen X as low as 1961, and as high as 1983!
the general consensus is that Gen Xers were born between the mid 60s and 1980 (or 81)... tho it isnt "exact" and many different years are given, but that seems to be the general range that can be agreed upon...
Jimmy you are almost exactly a decade older than me! How cool is that?
it's good to be a Leo :D
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Explorers was an awesome movie. I just watched it on Netflix not too long ago. I guess some cheese just gets better with age huh? :funny
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jimmy is 2 decades older than me... in 1 week
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I've been thinking about remakes. Perhaps me and those others opposed to it are being selfish. I mean we see these films and Star Trek as classics most of which involve childhood memories that make us smile with nostalgia. Why shouldn't kids of today have the same?
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because the point is, the originals mostly are timeless no matter what year they were made... it is the laziness of modern hollywood to continue recycling, combined with banking on our nostalgia and as well as consumers being pure sheep...
how would you feel if modern Hollywood did a remake of The Wizard Of Oz, or Close Encounters Of The Third Kind, or ET? it would be offensive, really... classic movies to tend tie you to history, back to the era they were made in, as they are reflective of the times; even if clothes or hairstyles or daily vernacular seem cheesy by todays standards, they represent; that is lost with remakes...
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remakes from early 80's? in that case, I'm eagerly waiting for Top Gun or Top Gun II.. :evil:
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remakes from early 80's? in that case, I'm eagerly waiting for Top Gun or Top Gun II.. :evil:
Oh, good lord . . . now where's that vomit smiley . . . ;)
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remakes from early 80's? in that case, I'm eagerly waiting for Top Gun or Top Gun II.. :evil:
please no >.<
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now, now. we've still got Ferris Beuler, Weird Science, revenge of the nerds, Back to the Future, and a lot of lousy Steven King movies to deal with, yet. we're only up to about 1985 on the nostalga filter right now. Top Gun is a couple years off, yet; it came out in 89, I think.
they've only missed one 80's adventure, so far...you think the Germans will love the Hoff all over again ?
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no. they're sadistic but not that sadistic. There's also a pile of other good ole BB-class movies like Gremlins, Ghostbusters, Critters, It, The thing..
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Ghostbusters has allready had a game threequal, and it's canon.
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Jimmy I completely agree with you but I saw another side to it. There are numerous films made in the 30s, 40s and 50s that have been done again but nothing said. We'll have our originals and let the obese, 5 second attention span goldfish (kids today) have their rubbish remakes.
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Hey, 10 seconds, and at-risk of obesity. Shut yer trap. :P
Time to go back to searching for college scholarships, right after I grab some ice cream...