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Title: TOS Excelsior
Post by: uk_resistant on March 04, 2012, 09:33:20 AM

(http://i.imgur.com/OQatK.jpg)

Initial modelling isn't far off from being done. The basic silhouette is done (pending feedback) so I will be looking to add smaller details soon.
I actually want this to be more "The cage " era of TOS - that time has been fascinating me a lot recently, so I have been playing around with points on the nacelles (though not shown) as well as having the grill like ends rather then the glowing orbs. I like the idea of the excelsior class actually being around for ages before we see her in STIII as well as being around in the TNG era.

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: baz1701 on March 04, 2012, 09:35:52 AM

great start :thumbsup:

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: Killallewoks on March 04, 2012, 09:42:16 AM

Very nice, i'm thinking if you could bury the delector a bit to give it more Excelsior feel but keeping it's current shape?

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: uk_resistant on March 04, 2012, 09:46:14 AM

I have a couple ideas for experiments i might try with the dish, but yeah I think insetting it more but still keeping it a separate looking dish is probably the way to go. Will have to drink it a bit mind you.

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: Killallewoks on March 04, 2012, 09:55:57 AM

Take your time to get it looking perfect.  :D

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: uk_resistant on March 04, 2012, 03:31:12 PM

I played around with the dish to inset it more, but it didnt really fit right and messed up the flow of the hull so I think I will stick with how it is and maybe think about it at a later date.

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: sovereign001 on March 04, 2012, 03:56:17 PM

Oke, this is damn nice! Gonna keep tabs on this!

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: tiqhud on March 05, 2012, 07:53:58 AM

looks very well

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: baz1701 on March 05, 2012, 08:10:53 AM

The bridge and deflector look to big for a ship of the excelsiors mass.

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: uk_resistant on March 05, 2012, 09:35:08 AM

@Baz1017
Good shout on the bridge and deflector. Shrunk the Bridge a fair bit and reduce the dish only slightly - any smaller and it looked a little odd, but I am going to look at some reference and see where it goes.

Image updated inabit!

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: Darkthunder on March 05, 2012, 09:53:28 AM

You know, I think a TOS-style deflector inside the TMP-era Excelsior "deflector housing" might look pretty neat. If you make the deflector dish quite a bit smaller diameter (like the Excelsior deflector), and upright (not slanted as it currently is). Make the indentation on the hull circular, rather than the awkward "oval" of the TMP Excelsior, with it being narrower on the inside, and have a wider opening at the "mouth".

You have the makings of a great looking ship. Just would like to see more classic Excelsior style elements to it.

I also agree with your concept, that the ship might've been in use long before we see the first reveal in ST:3. The Miranda Class which is a contemporary to the TMP Constitution, is another one of those that must've been around already in TOS, and been refitted to similar standards by ST:2 (and beyond).

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: uk_resistant on March 05, 2012, 12:16:50 PM

So here is a screengrab, done rather roughly based on the dish suggestions.

Im going to bevel the edge of the indent but I thought to get feedback first (all of which I appreciate!)

(http://i.imgur.com/WSzCf.jpg)

Think I will make the dish a bit thicker too.

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: Darkthunder on March 05, 2012, 01:42:24 PM

*Burns voice* Excellent... :)

Yeah, a slightly thicker dish is definitely recommended. Essentially the same style and size as a TOS Constitution deflector, i'd assume. On another note, is the current neck "Final", or will you be giving it a more ribbed look like the original Excelsior? I don't want you to copy everything from the TMP Excelsior, for your TOS-era variant, but just a suggestion ;)

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: uk_resistant on March 05, 2012, 02:15:55 PM

I want a neck very similar to the constitution class but at the same time the ribbed excelsior neck would be a nice block colour to have on the TOS version. I think il do some quick tests, perhaps have ribs partially on there.

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: moed on March 05, 2012, 02:53:34 PM

This is looking pretty good!

Cookie for you.

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: uk_resistant on March 05, 2012, 04:19:50 PM

Tonight's update. Shrunk the bridge  and added the new dish as well as some other details.

(http://i.imgur.com/436y9.jpg)

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: Killallewoks on March 05, 2012, 04:42:28 PM

This is Fantastic! The Deflector dish is perfect, its just what I imagined.

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: Vortex on March 05, 2012, 04:53:26 PM

Love it. Are those cutouts on the top of the nacelles for the warp grille? If your going for a pre TMP look, you could maybe rotate them 90 degree's to be on the inside of the nacelles.

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: captain_obvious on March 05, 2012, 05:22:04 PM

Nice work man! Although I find the neck a bit odd.
Almost like it was built for saucer seperation :)

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: uk_resistant on March 05, 2012, 06:06:01 PM

The inset of the nacelle grills are a reference to the excelsior's nacelles. It deviates a bit from usual TOS nacelles but I do want some more unique features.

I want to play around with the neck a bit, looks oddly twisted at some angles.

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: King Class Scout on March 05, 2012, 06:26:37 PM

when you finish, I'm downloading.  i collect TOSes.

everything else looks ideal.  the neck, however...I agree, needs something else.  and, frankly, scooted foreward a bit. 

I just had an idea for an alternate.  maybey a DOUBLE TOS style neck?

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: uk_resistant on March 05, 2012, 06:29:57 PM

Do you mean dual necks? COuld be cool.

(http://i.imgur.com/KyD7y.jpg)

Figured it would be a good idea to post this.

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: Centurus on March 05, 2012, 08:48:56 PM

I love where you put the shuttlebay.  :-D

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: Captain_D on March 05, 2012, 11:45:18 PM

Love the detail on those engines.  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: baz1701 on March 06, 2012, 05:29:29 AM

Here are some minor changes I think might work.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7042/6958520813_2ea62fb5a0_z_d.jpg)
I have shortend the underside of the engineering hull, curved the step and added the rear step.
Re profiled the fantail to be more TOS and enlarged the neck.

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: uk_resistant on March 06, 2012, 05:43:27 AM

Cheers Baz, they are some great changes - I'll look into implementing them later!

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: Killallewoks on March 06, 2012, 09:28:22 AM

You know this keeps getting better and better! +1

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: Phoenix Bondi on March 06, 2012, 03:33:33 PM

I'd offer to show you my one at the point where i stopped but its too much TMP excell except the deflector and impulse lol

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: uk_resistant on March 07, 2012, 06:41:03 AM

@ phoenix - if that is the case, you should totally do it as a Phase II excelsior!

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: Phoenix Bondi on March 15, 2012, 10:58:59 AM

any update on this mate??
this is where i got too before i decided to restart her - all this new info i learned about excellsior i kinda thought meh, start again, plus i've had some *hopefully* Epic idea's for the Nacelle's IF it goes well lol

(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/34366_1470568079966_1106546365_31383933_339563_n.jpg)
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/34366_1470568119967_1106546365_31383934_802859_n.jpg)
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/34366_1470568159968_1106546365_31383935_4939424_n.jpg)

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: GMunoz on March 16, 2012, 10:55:11 AM

This is fantastic.  Although the warp engines indeed look good I think a more traditional TOS approach here would be more fitting.  Either way this is good stuff.

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: MSB3000 on April 04, 2012, 07:45:39 PM

Really looking forward to seeing this finished!

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: calamity_si on April 09, 2012, 12:26:56 PM

That's great! Back in the day, I did a similar version in google Sketchup. I actually prefer your version, but have a look, it may provide you with some more inspiration!
http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=e37134bb933a1ffd190e54bbd5dcb372 (http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=e37134bb933a1ffd190e54bbd5dcb372)

Title: Re: TOS Excelsior
Post by: uk_resistant on July 29, 2012, 03:41:58 PM

Just a quick bump to say this ship isnt dead, just been busy with work.

Coming soon though!