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Title: A Federation Warbird???
Post by: mathews99 on March 06, 2012, 06:31:45 AM
I have been following this site and BCFiles since I started playing BC years ago... I do not have the programs to mod, or create stuff... I have always had an idea though for a Federation Warbird... Picture taking a Galaxy class ship, rearrange the parts like a Romulan D'Deridex warbird... Saucer on top, attack pylons from saucer to nacelles, and pylons from nacelles to the engineering hull... It also would still have the ability to do Saucer seperation... Would love to hear someones input/comments....
Thanks
Title: Re: A Federation Warbird???
Post by: King Class Scout on March 06, 2012, 08:17:45 AM
rule number one around here, no requests.
Title: Re: A Federation Warbird???
Post by: eclipse74569 on March 06, 2012, 09:09:49 AM
Not sure he was requesting KCS...more like asking for comments on the idea.  Now if he had said "Can someone make this for me" I would have understood :)
Title: Re: A Federation Warbird???
Post by: hobbs on March 06, 2012, 10:14:40 AM
I have been following this site and BCFiles since I started playing BC years ago... I do not have the programs to mod, or create stuff... I have always had an idea though for a Federation Warbird... Picture taking a Galaxy class ship, rearrange the parts like a Romulan D'Deridex warbird... Saucer on top, attack pylons from saucer to nacelles, and pylons from nacelles to the engineering hull... It also would still have the ability to do Saucer seperation... Would love to hear someones input/comments....
Thanks


sounds interesting though i dont think starfleet or the federation are "warbird" types... look how long it took them to create the defiant "escort"

but keep your ideas coming, we love ideas around here  :D
Title: Re: A Federation Warbird???
Post by: JimmyB76 on March 06, 2012, 10:29:36 AM
ideas can tend to hover very closely to a request concept...
Title: Re: A Federation Warbird???
Post by: baz1701 on March 06, 2012, 11:59:03 AM
This idea has me thinking.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7179/6813186722_01ecebece1_z_d.jpg)
Title: Re: A Federation Warbird???
Post by: JimmyB76 on March 06, 2012, 01:08:28 PM
eeks that looks dreadful lol
Title: Re: A Federation Warbird???
Post by: moed on March 06, 2012, 01:19:53 PM
eeks that looks dreadful lol

Agreed.
Title: Re: A Federation Warbird???
Post by: Nebula on March 06, 2012, 02:20:55 PM
huh I thought something like this was made way back in 02 xD
Title: Re: A Federation Warbird???
Post by: JimmyB76 on March 06, 2012, 03:22:22 PM
i think youre right, Neb...  or perhaps it was started and never finished, i dont know...
but i seem to recall thaat also being not too easy on the eyes to look at lol
Title: Re: A Federation Warbird???
Post by: mathews99 on March 06, 2012, 08:52:35 PM
Sorry,
I was not requesting, but I was seeking comments and maybe some other additional things that could be added to the concept...
Looking at baz1701s graphic, that is sort of what I was picturing..... Was also thinking if this ship had the saucer seperation capability, you could add the mega phaser cannon from the Galaxy X class onto both the saucer and engineering sections and would give a fight to most enemy ships.....
Title: Re: A Federation Warbird???
Post by: TheConstable6 on March 06, 2012, 10:05:41 PM
Let's not be too hard on him! I think it's a good idea :D
Title: Re: A Federation Warbird???
Post by: mathews99 on March 07, 2012, 03:04:51 AM
Ive always been a fan of the Federation Oberth Class design and the Romulan D'Deridex Class designs, and now the Federation Odyssey Class from Star Trek Online, because all 3 are sort have seperated from the engineering hulls, and look sleek... I would definately add the mega phaser cannons from the Galaxy X to both hulls, would make it so it could seperate, and if you really put some thinking to the design, could be a miniature fleet carrier with some modifications to the hull contours and layout... The only thing I have trouble thinking on and visioning is what kind of pylons to use to attach to both hulls, so it would still be possible to do saucer seperation. I would only picture this concept using the Galaxy Class parts... I tried to visualize the concept using Soveriegn and newer starship designs, and I believe that the Galaxy look, would be very menacing....
Title: Re: A Federation Warbird???
Post by: King Class Scout on March 07, 2012, 07:39:06 AM
okay, now that this has been cleared up as not actually being a request....

why are you people bothering with the saucer at all?  Just the e-Hulls, either horizontally or vertically would work..  there's also the idea of stretching a Miranda rollbar into Pseudo warbird wings for a TMP version.

oh, I also had a couple redeco ideas of my own to make a fed warbird.  and wasn't there a busted warbird mod at one point that got patched with some spare sov parts?
Title: Re: A Federation Warbird???
Post by: hobbs on March 07, 2012, 08:58:08 AM
you like oberth class? COOL  :dance me too check out a fun design i did for new oberth class  :D

http://bc-central.net/forums/index.php/topic,6322.msg125755.html#msg125755
Title: Re: A Federation Warbird???
Post by: mckinneyc on March 07, 2012, 12:18:17 PM
Jimmy I know which ship you were on about. A Galaxy class varient that had a deflector/sensor pod on a roll bar coming off the nacelles

http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/CR_Galaxyclass_Refit_II;59708
Title: Re: A Federation Warbird???
Post by: Killallewoks on March 07, 2012, 12:35:53 PM
Jimmy I know which ship you were on about. A Galaxy class varient that had a deflector/sensor pod on a roll bar coming off the nacelles

http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/CR_Galaxyclass_Refit_II;59708

That ship design....

(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/175/889/oh%20god.png) Nuff said.
Title: Re: A Federation Warbird???
Post by: Nebula on March 07, 2012, 12:38:20 PM
I think this is the closest match.... (oh look 2003) xD

http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/P81KnoxAgamemnon_Torpedo_Cruiser;18462
Title: Re: A Federation Warbird???
Post by: TheConstable6 on March 07, 2012, 05:43:11 PM
I think this is the closest match.... (oh look 2003) xD

http://bridgecommander.filefront.com/file/P81KnoxAgamemnon_Torpedo_Cruiser;18462
Okay that's beautiful  :dance
Title: Re: A Federation Warbird???
Post by: Darkthunder on March 07, 2012, 06:50:13 PM
Okay that's beautiful  :dance

"Beautiful" and "P81" is not something I would even consider in 2012... But then, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Title: Re: A Federation Warbird???
Post by: TheConstable6 on March 07, 2012, 07:46:24 PM
I was being facetious...that being said I have a HUGE P81 soft spot
Title: Re: A Federation Warbird???
Post by: King Class Scout on March 08, 2012, 07:24:14 AM
knox's textures would be a lot better looking if the guy had saved the things in a high-resolution format or the art program's native format at any point. you can tell he put a lot of work, love, and effort into them.  the problem is, he also shrunk the dang things to oblivion so that they're all one blurry smear.
Title: Re: A Federation Warbird???
Post by: Centurus on March 09, 2012, 05:19:35 PM
You must remember though that P81 had made models and textures for a different game, with a very different set of standards, and quite a few of his models that are still being used to some degree were made before BC was even created.  Back then, any kind of map over 512x512 was considered very high res, and considered a drain on system resources, which would cause game lag.

I know there was a set of high res textures by P81 created, that had pretty decent quality, but I have no idea where they are, or who has them.
Title: Re: A Federation Warbird???
Post by: King Class Scout on March 10, 2012, 12:00:57 PM
I meant saved as in saved them somewhere else for later or for repairs or something.
Title: Re: A Federation Warbird???
Post by: Bren on March 13, 2012, 12:25:55 AM
i think youre right, Neb...  or perhaps it was started and never finished, i dont know...
but i seem to recall thaat also being not too easy on the eyes to look at lol

I started on something that looked a lot like that around that time... I don't think I have any renders on this system. It was one of a bunch of concepts I threw together to start developing. I made a Vor'Cha replacement that drew a bit of attention, but I fell at the texturing hurdle, and it never saw general release.

I had a lot of issues converting my work, and eventually lost interest in trying - which is a pity, but there it is. I really should try and learn MAX some day soon.