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BC Forums => BC General => Topic started by: FarShot on March 11, 2013, 11:51:22 PM
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This might be something you and the rest of the mods should look into. I was browsing around for some free models when I came across this link. I'm not sure if they have permission or not to use them, but I think it's worth checking out.
https://marketplace.secondlife.com/stores/112468
PM from Toa. Looks pretty incriminating, I recognize a lot of BC modder's models in there.
Reposted from the Staff Forum so all modders may be made aware about it. -FarShot
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This guy will go down. :mad: :bitch: I too recognize a lot of these ships. Hell, I've even betaed many of them! :nono:
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what a scumbag stealing other creators work for profit! :banghead:
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So clearly LC's Warbird: https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Warbird/4073848
Texturing may be alot lower quality, but I still see the resemblence from the original. Pisses me off when people take works that have been done by someone else, and pass it off as their own. And to charge money for it as well. Crash and burn!!!
EDIT: Another one I most definitely recognize: https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Sovi/4077134 (CG Sovereign)
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DJ's Eclipse is there too, and our Kobayashi Maru, and JJ Cosntellation, an and and.. ARRGG :argh:
Worst thing is, that he is actually making real money with these. :bitch: :facepalm:
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I dunno. Based on what I remember of creating prims in SL, it would be far, far too difficult to make something from BC work in it.
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They don't necessarily work as they do in the game. But the models are still there.. which means that he somehow converted them to make them appear in SL, and makes money on DJ's, Baz's etc original creations.
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that guy should be reported and the authors of the models compensated
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we need to write to them in person, What we all need to do is find out exactly WHO built what ship and write this all in a letter and get them to write one as well, i tried to flag the items and then i took me to another site, this is what was written, i erge every single one of us to do this and get these mesh's taken off the site even one of mine is on there and i am not happy
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For F**K sake, I see at least 7 of my models listed there! :wtf
My JJ refit pack.
https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/JJConstellation/4125141
https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Sirius/4125159
https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/JJ-Miranda/4125191
https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/USS-Discovery/4125209
JJ Excelsior
https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/JJverse-Excelsior/4125203
Kobi Maru
https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Kobayashi-Maru-tanker/4176735
DS9.
https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Nor/4219798
Someone bring me some tar and feathers. This has pissed me off as I'm pretty fair with my porting policy. Might need a rethink.
I don't have a second life account nor do I want one so I cannot flag this.
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ARRGH, Bad move, seems as tho respect of moddelors has gone out the window. :hithead:
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figures. where is this stuff...I can always go take a look
Edit: yup, I recognise a lot of those pieces. you think mabey they thought since they were "free" that they weren't owned?
I just hollered at the seller. thing is, they may have to paramount/CBS nail it instead. there's also a babylon 5 in there, so THEY might have a piece of the action, as well.
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Novi sad and Oberth amongst mine...one "nice" mail coming up :argh:
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If you have a mail address for non memebers let me know. I have a few choice words to write to them.
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If you have a mail address for non memebers let me know. I have a few choice words to write to them.
read my big post there baz it has the post address there, as u can't flag it, u have to mail them
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My reworked model/retexture of P81's Steamrunner class.... (https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Steamrunner/4087193)
They do have a facebook page...maybe someone can flag it there :)
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Jesus this has to be one of the biggest infringements I have ever seen. It's like the guy saw Bridge commander files and went all out. I hope this guy gets what's coming to him.
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My Excelsior Family Pack, Gabe Koerner Enterprise, and Phase II Enterprise are among the ones stolen.
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well, i've contacted him personally now, here lookie :D
(http://www.chrisjonesgaming.org/phoenix/Text.jpg)
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if this clears up...wanna hang out? I finally got started in there after idling for 5 years 'cause of my crappy graphics card...and I'm utterly bored!
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Nicely said Phoenix.
Taking peoples works and passing them off as your own is one thing. Charging money for said work? No way! If CBS/Paramount got whiff of this, i'd bet they would be none too pleased about it.
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I wonder if this guy is aware that he's using ORIGINAL BIOWARE SR-2 Normandy :funny one mail to Bioware and he's done for good because he claims it's 100% his work :funny what an ass
I can see some of mine retextures too, oh and there's Centurus USS Resurrection... where can I get e-mail adress to this ... "person" ???
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Id like to help out too if I can; Im really not a modder like most of you, but the community has been good to me for as long as Ive been a part of it. If theres anything I can do, just give me a buzz.
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I have politely informed that champ he's about to face a true shit-storm from Bioware if he do not delete my retextured Constellation and Centurus Resurrection (which has my textures)... not to mention SR-2 for which I had to dig through whole Bioware Social to contact proper person and ask for permission to use it while he simply put a claim that all of the stuff he's selling is 100% his ... I call it bullshit and I call it damn offensive towards people like DJ,Wiley, Baz, Adonis, etc. who really put some damn effort to build their beauties :mad:
FFS what's wrong with those kids these days ??? I don't remember things like this happening so often back in 2002-2009...
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if you would check the store again almost everything has been removed ;)
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this discussion has also been brought up over at the Excalibur forums, if anyone would like to see there...
http://www.stexcalibur.com/forum/index.php/topic,7247.0.html
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if you would check the store again almost everything has been removed ;)
Which is nice and all, but what about any and all money this "douchebag" might've earnt, for selling works of art created by someone else? Not to mention, the legal ramifications of selling "Trek" artwork, without a license to the IP. Who wants to notify CBS/Paramount? :P
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this actually happened back in 2000 or so to another fandom I'm part of. a theif made off with several thousand pictures, erased all the original artists' copyright indicators and signatures, put them on CD's after replacing it with his OWN signature, and started selling. doezens of artists bolted, withdrew all their material from the net and walked away. what the guy stole is similar in calibur to the models you guys make. professional caliber artwork. if the name "Sibe" comes up, I wouldn't be suprised. that theif was arrested, convicted, and put in a mental institution for other crimes.
and if you guys haven't noticed...your models were selling for 500 linden...a buck and a half (75p/?1)
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Instead of asking him to remove the ships, you all should have blackmailed him. Oh well. :P
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ah we work as a team, and we win :D well done guys :D
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Well done guys. :yay: :thumbsup: To quote the borg when BC gets pissed Resistance is futile :assimilate :smack:
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ah we work as a team, and we win :D well done guys :D
That's the beauty of the BC community; Whenever someone "wrongs" the community, the entire community comes together to defend the person wronged. :D
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i have no friggin clue what that is, other than it looks like the sims and facebook had a bastard child from hell...
nor cant i friggin believe some dildo would do that...
bones, id drop the email to bioware anyway.
call it karma :evil:
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i have no friggin clue what that is, other than it looks like the sims and facebook had a bastard child from hell...
nor cant i friggin believe some dildo would do that...
bones, id drop the email to bioware anyway.
call it karma :evil:
did it mate, after getting "you can choke on your poor ships" :D not only I've brought it to Bioware's attention, I've also wished them good hunting :D
as for blackmail Farshot,I think my mail could work just like blackmail here ;) full mail below
Greetings,
Disturbing matter came to my attention today, I was informed via BCC (Bridge Commander Central - a Star Trek Bridge Commander game forum) that many models of my friends and some retextures I have made, are being sold by you on this site.
I am politely asking you to delete following models from this site permanently
https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/USS-Ressurection/4201541
https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Constellation/4249182
I did not give you permission nor was I asked for one, thus you are violating terms of usage stated in Readme for both models (clearly I do not give permission for commercial use of my work which means you are not allowed to seel it in any form)
Lastly I find it offending that no credit has been given to original authors of models : Centurus for USS Resurrection and LC Amaral for Constellation and original author of new set of textures for both models (namely me)
I do hope you will come to reason and delete both modelsfrom your selling list, otherwise I will be forced to forward this message to Admins and if this does not solve this matter, you will face legal charges for claiming and stealing artistic work.
Best resgards,
Maciej N. a.k.a. Bones (dr_mccoy11 from BCFiles)
PS. : If I were you, I would also get rid of the SR-2 Normandy, because you claim it's yours... I did ask Bioware for permission to port THEIR model from Mass Effect 3 over to ST Bridge Commander and they granted it as long as I credit Bioware to use their mesh. I hope you do realise one message to Bioware art/design dept is more than enough to cause you ALOT of troubles, do you ? So friendly advice, add SR-2 to your delete list.
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ah screw it, Mess with us your in shit :D
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Whenever someone "wrongs" the community, the entire community comes together to defend the person wronged. :D
so very true...
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looks like everything has been removed...i just checked to original post and all the models are gone,congrats everyone! ;)
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I wonder what happened to the funds he got from the models.
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Yeah... he still won if he was paid for any of those... Wish we could take the guy to court.
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Unbelievable that this prick would do this. I too checked the site and indeed it seems everything's been taken down.
If this individual did get some money prior to removing everything. May he burn in hell.
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My god some people...
I pray that Bioware, Warners and Paramont/CBS get a hold of his slimy behind and gives it a good flogging.
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did it mate, after getting "you can choke on your poor ships" :D not only I've brought it to Bioware's attention, I've also wished them good hunting :D
Wait, that was his actual response to you?!
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Add hello at the begining and goodbye at the end ;) yeah that's pretty much like it ;)
I do hope someone will get that buster somewhere and give him hell :evil: seen too many of lowlifes like this one, they always make one mistake too many ;)
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That has got to be the most disrespectful reply I can think of without resorting to foul language. I hope Bioware nails this bastard to the fucking wall.
Pardon my own language, but a guy like that deserves it.
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hell i couldnt have said it better myself shadow.
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Agreed, I hope Bioware do that.
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um, guys...they may just trace it back to us complainers, and nail US, too. some corporations are LIKE that.
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um, guys...they may just trace it back to us complainers, and nail US, too. some corporations are LIKE that.
Doubtful.
CBS/Paramount are generally quite "open" to people using the Trek IP, so long as no profits are made (unless you own a license). The "mod thief" broke that cardinal rule, by not only outright stealing the various ship mods without asking permission, but also charging real money to obtain them in "Second Life". The BC community is fully in the clear on this matter.
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Doubtful.
CBS/Paramount are generally quite "open" to people using the Trek IP, so long as no profits are made (unless you own a license). The "mod thief" broke that cardinal rule, by not only outright stealing the various ship mods without asking permission, but also charging real money to obtain them in "Second Life". The BC community is fully in the clear on this matter.
That may be but things like this have a tendancy to backfire on the whole communitie...
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i was thinking the same as KCS... but also thought that we are ok because of the non-money making side of our community.
till it happens im going with the "we'll be ok" thought :) its just the way i am.
edit: what if we nipped any issues in the bud and asked via email if cbs etc are ok with us doing what we do... (but then i bet they already know about BC Central)
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They indeed already know of us(all trek game communities). I know that they've been contacted by different modders(mostly armada)before in past years. Clearly all of the various sites are still up, so thats all we need to know right there. Just don't be making money and they'll let us be.
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They indeed already know of us(all trek game communities). I know that they've been contacted by different modders(mostly armada)before in past years. Clearly all of the various sites are still up, so thats all we need to know right there. Just don't be making money and they'll let us be.
That's generally how it is, that's why Bioware let Bones bring the Normandies and other ships into BC.