Author Topic: TREK XI - Images, Footage, Trailers, Enterprise, Discussion, etc. Thread (WARNING: SPOILERS) (Read 100618 times)

lint · « **Reply #60 on:** January 13, 2008, 05:55:50 AM »

the problem is, if this movie flops at the box office, paramount wont click and go, "hey, we need to move forward with trek", they will go, "wow, one of the best producers/directors could'nt revive trek, nothing will",
And i think they will just give up on the franchise,

Mark · « **Reply #61 on:** January 13, 2008, 06:14:59 AM »

And thats a bad thing? There seems to be an attitude amongst the fans that "crap trek is better then no trek".. im sorry but Id rather have nothing then have them raping the franchise for all its worth.

Frankly the fan made stuff in the last few years has been better then what has come out of paramount, CBS and bethesda... if they want to leave trek alone then thats fine by me.

intrepid90 · « **Reply #62 on:** January 13, 2008, 06:26:52 AM »

hard words but kind of true

lint · « **Reply #63 on:** January 13, 2008, 07:22:21 AM »

it wouldnt bother me either, plus if we get desperate we still have things like of gods and men

blaXXer · « **Reply #64 on:** January 14, 2008, 06:26:21 AM »

Quote from: lint on January 13, 2008, 07:22:21 AM

it wouldnt bother me either, plus if we get desperate we still have things like ~~of gods and men~~ massive fanwank

fixed. :arms:

but a rather decent massive fanwank, I might add ;)

Billz · « **Reply #65 on:** January 15, 2008, 06:56:05 AM »

'Tis better.

:arms:

Armondikov · « **Reply #66 on:** January 15, 2008, 02:01:28 PM »

Quote from: darkthunder on January 13, 2008, 03:39:01 AM

Which is not necessarily a bad thing. "TOS" is suppose to take place roughly 250 years from now. You honestly think we'll have 60s-era television sets as computer monitors, and cube-shaped colorful buttons to press? Look at how we have it today, and imagine a future 250 years from now, technology-wise. What would YOU want to see at that time? Externally they don't have to change much, if any... perhaps simply adding more details like windows, or aztecing. Details they were unable to produce during the 60s but likely should've been visible.

I've always said that the appearance of the original series shouldn't be considered canon as it was highly limited by the technology of the day (and by that, I mean the 60s, not the 2220s... or whatever. I've just had my fill of people being picky for today and I need a rest

). It's perfectly reasonable to reimagine the aesthetics (which are hardly a major point) when you have better technology to realise them on screen. In the toss up between awesome movie with an Enterprise completely designed, and a shit movie with the Enterprise looking exactly the same down to the last lightbulb screwed into a chipboard desk, I know what I'd be picking. :king

lint · « **Reply #67 on:** January 15, 2008, 11:29:27 PM »

http://www.trektoday.com/news/160108_01.shtml

intrepid90 · « **Reply #68 on:** January 16, 2008, 08:24:42 AM »

hmm lint, that sounds interesting.
but was enterprise built on earth???

Erk · « **Reply #69 on:** January 16, 2008, 12:53:30 PM »

what i dont get is, if they are remastering the TOS trek, which is basically bringing the original up to modern day standards, why make a TOS movie that contradicts all that is being done with the remastered? i personally love the new TOS episodes, Its like finally being able to see the Enterprise clearly and i must say, she is a BEAUTIFUL ship. now there Star Trek XI that kinda shadows over all the work theyve done to revive the original. i dunno. maybe its just me. right now this movie looks like a mess. but who knows, maybe a new concept on things would be nice.

Armondikov · « **Reply #70 on:** January 16, 2008, 02:39:29 PM »

They're separate projects. They can remaster the original, but that's just bringing the image quality up to todays standards, not bringing the graphical effects up to todays standards. The shots of the ship are sharp, but they're still exactly the same designs. The movie is more like reimagining, along the lines off BSG but I don't think it's as extreme (though like BSG, I think they should have waited a few more years).

Sean · « **Reply #71 on:** January 16, 2008, 08:09:49 PM »

i dont know why people are complaining so much about this re-invisioned trek. to be quite fair, i cant stand TOS, Wasnt til i saw TWOK that i actually cared about any of those characters. What the show needs is a complete revival. If that means they create a whole new trek universe, so be it as long as its good. Trek has always shown the possibility of new/parallel universes so why do people always assume just because its not the 60's trek show, but it uses the same characters that it will be bad?

Darkthunder · « **Reply #72 on:** January 16, 2008, 10:05:27 PM »

Quote from: Sean on January 16, 2008, 08:09:49 PM

i dont know why people are complaining so much about this re-invisioned trek. to be quite fair, i cant stand TOS, Wasnt til i saw TWOK that i actually cared about any of those characters. What the show needs is a complete revival. If that means they create a whole new trek universe, so be it as long as its good. Trek has always shown the possibility of new/parallel universes so why do people always assume just because its not the 60's trek show, but it uses the same characters that it will be bad?

Here here. They've had a number of mirror universes in various tv shows. What is to say that the "universe" they create with a re-invisioned TOS-era is any more or less normal than our universe? Using various theories that we've been exposed to over the years, there are literally hundreds if not thousands of alternate universes each co-existing with our own. In many cases the alternate universes are virtually identical. Some however are more "evil" than others such as the one seen in Mirror Mirror/In A Mirror Darkly. Although technically there's no such thing as an evil mirror universe. Our choices and decisions shape what will follow.

Glenn · « **Reply #73 on:** January 17, 2008, 07:46:22 AM »

I really enjoyed the TNG episode "Parallels" where other universes merged into one. I think it would be a great to explore the idea of an alternate universe, especially a show with a BSG themed storyline where the borg have defeated the federation and the survivors go looking for a new home.

I think trek could also do with a bit more realism in the storylines like BSG, in anycase there are pleny of ideas still to explore in the star trek universe.

Darkthunder · « **Reply #74 on:** January 17, 2008, 02:31:09 PM »

This just in. First official image of the new Enterprise in Star Trek XI. I don't care what the purists think, this new Enterprise looks awesome from the tiny tidbit of information we know so far.

Source: TrekMovie.com

JimmyB76 · « **Reply #75 on:** January 17, 2008, 02:34:16 PM »

hmmm... ok it looks good, i'll give it that...
still hate the whole prequil thing tho...

Nighthawk · « **Reply #76 on:** January 17, 2008, 02:41:37 PM »

hmmm... the bussards (or the whole nacelle) look out of scale.
might be the angle, tho.

Darkthunder · « **Reply #77 on:** January 17, 2008, 02:45:03 PM »

Scale of the nacelles looks ok from this image:

Weasel · « **Reply #78 on:** January 17, 2008, 02:52:49 PM »

I'm wondering if they are going to use that "Enterprise 1701 re-imagined", design? The textures look dark and little glossy, like the renders of that new Ent design.

Mark · « **Reply #79 on:** January 17, 2008, 02:59:06 PM »

yes, if they arent using that they have stolen alot of ideas from it.

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