Star Trek Online thread

[Tuskin38]

I'm 50 Cryptic Points short of the Tier 5 Excel, and I'm broke ><  

[DJ Curtis]

Honestly, we pay money every month to play the game.  It pisses me off that they have the audacity to charge for the ship or any DLC.  YOu know, they only started calling it DLC when they started charging.  "Patches" and "Updates" used to be free.

[Nebula]

MMO's always had extra content you could buy... it isn't new...

[majormagna]

Does it matter? It's not like you can't play the game without using the Excelsior refit.... To be honest I think the Galaxy refit is better...

The only things they charge extra for is costumes and ships that don't really affect the gameplay that much, OH! And the Galaxy dreadnought that sucks badly and anyone that buys one immediately regrets not reading the description, forum threads and local every time someone is using it.

[DJ Curtis]

What's wrong with it?

[majormagna]

It's not that anything is wrong with it, it's just that a Galaxy X will lose to a Sovereign 75% of the time, lose to a Galaxy Retrofit 80% of the time. (taking DPS, tanking abilities, speed and turn rate into account)

IF I spend any cash on a ship, I want it to be one I can use effectively at the level cap. It's okay; but there are better options (both play-wise and aesthetically) for free.

EDIT: Also congrats on reaching 1900 posts! 100 more to the next magic mark!

[Tuskin38]

Soo, I logged into STO just a couple moments ago at Spacedock and.. well everywhere, Excelsiors EVERYWHERE Mostly Retrofits, Cryptic is getting their money (though some that didn't look like retrofits could have been modded to look like the Tier 3)

I was like 0-o

I'm the only one that isn't a Retrofit in that screenshot.

[Daystar70]

It's expected that people go crazy on day 1 of a new ship so far in STO. As expected some are complaining about teh c store part of it, some are complaining it is better ship than many cruisers, etc. To be fair to cryptic, they did put out 2 versions one is better than the other. They still DO give ships for free at times like the Vice admiral retrofit token u get, they have not 100% made all new stuff c store, but i expect they will go 78% c store when sto goes Free to play (which IS happening Stahl has had several intervioew discusssions about how they are looking at models of f2p and he sees sto going F2p anytime between 1-3 years.)

[Villain]

...Lol, that's kinda hilarious. Free model already being discussed? If they go through with it, expect c-store to become ridiculous.

The Excel is... Eh. It's alright I guess, for a Cryptic release.

[Captain_Licard]

My question is, Why? why would I waste money on the excel when (with the right consoles) I can get a ship that performs just as well as or better? For example, currently, my escort can do just as much damage and last just as long (I got a special mkIV shield array thats better than most mkVII)

[flarespire]

lemme guess, a numiri shield array, i have a MK VI one that out powers a MK X normal shield array! 

[Captain_Licard]

nope Covariant mkIV [Cap]x2 with a total shield strength of 5,025 whereas a mkVI resiliant shield array only has 4,383 (give or take a hundred)

[Nebula]

lets see here... people will complain about anything cryptic does with ships in C-store...

1. If they make C-store ships better than ships already in game people will complain that they are too powerful and should be nerfed so those who don't have the points don't feel left out.
2. If ships in C-store are just as good as ships already in game and in fact are only there for their design
people will complain that C-Store ships are worthless and wonder why people would buy them if it adds nothing to the game.

:roll

Stop complaining and learn to adjust! Leave those who want to spend points on these things alone.

[JimmyB76]

Stop complaining and learn to adjust! Leave those who want to spend points on these things alone.

not for these prices... 
_{lol j/k i dont even play STO}

[majormagna]

The only time I would ever buy anything from the C-Store is if both:
A: A good ship that I can use at level cap.
B: A limited edition, otherwise everyone will have it and will be boring. (perhaps limited to 100 or so)

[Villain]

If you're paying for a ship because it's overpowered then you're just a munchkin.  Ships you pay real world money for should never have an advantage, just something different to make them interesting. Of course, if people want to waste money, it's their decision. 

[majormagna]

Exactly, I wouldn't buy it if it was OP, 'cause then I'd get nothing but grief... A limited edition ship that equals a T5 or T5.5 ship, but isn't EXACTLY the same bar the looks.

[Tuskin38]

update on the Enterprise J discussions

http://forums.startrekonline.com/showpost.php?p=2987278&postcount=10

UPDATE
We are not making a 2 mile long Enterprise J. In fact I think we should just stop saying the Enterprise J is coming, because Enterprise J refers to a very specific ship that I can confirm we are not making.

The idea is - we want to make a ship that moves ship designs closer towards the J, but based on internal discussions we are not going to be making the J as it appeared in Enterprise. It is going to be some other ship between now and then. J was just a way of saying a forward looking ship like the J.

Also I stole these from the forums

http://picasaweb.google.es/Z3R0B4NG/StarTrekOnline#5507228248330839026
http://imgur.com/Odzg0.jpg

The wings break off the B'rel + Variats now after the new update with the warp animations

[ACES_HIGH]

It's expected that people go crazy on day 1 of a new ship so far in STO. As expected some are complaining about teh c store part of it, some are complaining it is better ship than many cruisers, etc. To be fair to cryptic, they did put out 2 versions one is better than the other. They still DO give ships for free at times like the Vice admiral retrofit token u get, they have not 100% made all new stuff c store, but i expect they will go 78% c store when sto goes Free to play (which IS happening Stahl has had several intervioew discusssions about how they are looking at models of f2p and he sees sto going F2p anytime between 1-3 years.)

I've been following this pretty closely, and unfortunately, it's pretty obvious that STO isn't going F2P anytime soon.  Stahl has said himself that he was misquoted on that.  If you read that statement carefully, he actually was discussing a variety of models Cryptic could investigate for STO.

[DJ Curtis]

Anybody know how I can turn off the shield strength indicators that encircle my ship during combat?