The FoaS thread

[Furyofaseraph]

Take a look at what I've been doing.

I plan on running a SFB-like campaign (using my own system) and so I've been developing a website that the players can play on. Here's the current WIP for the actual campaign map: http://robinomicon.com/haven/hexmap/mapGrid.htm I've been writing javascript up until 2am last night, with modeling sessions in between to keep my head cool.

EDIT: I also thought I'd share my thoughts on nacelle counts. Why do some ships have 1, 2, 3, or even 4 nacelles? Well - here's the way I look at it. The number of nacelles on a ship determines the ship's endurance and maximum warp in relation to its mass. (remember that I have a habit of throwing canon out the window, so these are my own views).

All warp nacelles encounter a certain limit on to how long they can operate without overheating. The amount of heat that a nacelle is dependant on the amount of work its doing. Suppose two ships have the same warp system (same efficiency of nacelles); Both ships have the same mass. Ship A has two nacelles while Ship B has three. Ship B would be able to cruise at the same warp as Ship A for 50% longer because it can rotate out which nacelles are active.

Warp Factor works the same way, but to a lesser degree. Suppose the same two ships. Ship A has a maximum warp factor of X. It achieves this speed by running both nacelles at 100%. if Ship B runs all three nacelles at 100% the maximum warp factor of Ship B is not X * 1.5, but rather X * 1.1 or so. Each extra nacelle gives a 10% boost to maximum warp factor, but much more in the way of endurance.

[Furyofaseraph]

Introducing the Kelvinprid (Kelvin + Intrepid)

[Starforce2]

intrepid looks really good..but I miss the oversized fins.

[Furyofaseraph]

HAH I don't

[Starforce2]

are you going to do that wedge shaped one? (archers RC ship also featured in the same battle as the intrepid)

[Furyofaseraph]

Probably not - I wasn't a fan of it.

EDIT: bashed up a quick Enterprise-style ship with these parts. Hull comes from WZ's Resolute.

[Johnnymuffintop]

You know, for a fan of the NX class, this is a little weird for me to say, but I'm actually starting to prefer your NX to the canon one. :wtf
I'd suggest for more ideas for greebles, hull variations, etc, take a look at John Eave's blog for some of his ENT sketches, there were a lot of nifty ideas that got left on the cutting room floor.

[Furyofaseraph]

Yeah - I know they need a bit of detailing work. I've been thinking about how.

[Johnnymuffintop]

A lot of the detailing will be made up by the texture. Panelling on the nacelles, IMO, should be a lot like the NX. I sure wouldn't mind a Daedalus like those little ships.

[Furyofaseraph]

I'm not sure how I am going about texturing these guys, yet.

I want to make some starfleet museum ships that would be around before even these guys. How I texture those will determine how I texture these (i'll go half-way between the starfleet museum ships and my TOS ships).

EDIT
btw, here is a progression of the common connie-esque form - at least, how it exists in my own universe.

[Dalek]

Pretty impressive line up. I really like that USS Resolute (before the TMP Connie) variant.

[Furyofaseraph]

Thanks. A lot of it comes from WickedZombie's Resolute class - but also from his Patton and Gettysburg ships

EDIT: Saladin

EDIT 2: Bismark battlecruiser

EDIT 3: Federation dreadnought

[Furyofaseraph]

I didn't want to make yet a fourth edit my last post - plus BUMP!

Anyone want some klingons?

[Adonis]

Warp Factor works the same way, but to a lesser degree. Suppose the same two ships. Ship A has a maximum warp factor of X. It achieves this speed by running both nacelles at 100%. if Ship B runs all three nacelles at 100% the maximum warp factor of Ship B is not X * 1.5, but rather X * 1.1 or so. Each extra nacelle gives a 10% boost to maximum warp factor, but much more in the way of endurance.

You need a fuel penalty too, because this doesn't stop people from doing the obvious stupid thing of slapping 10x10^600 nacelles on their ships. Fuel consumption should increase exponentially for ships that have more than 2 nacelles (since in the Trek canon single nacelle ships should anyway have 2 sets of warp coils) - or you could use the 2 main warp nacelles normally or all 3 depending on need, so you have a bit of a tradeoff. Say, 3 nacelle ship does X*1.1 warp factor, but increases fuel consumption to something like at least 150%. There was a trek pdf manual that basically gave ships with more than two nacelles this type of disadvantage, which is reasonable. This should be set up in a way that ships that have more than 4 nacelles should be too impractical to make out of the simple reason that they would deplete their reserves of deuterium too fast (you could for example add a rule that explains the Prometheus: that she would be only able to do lesser warp factors when she's separated). Also, fuel consumption should rise exponentially with higher warp factors too (keeping the warp 10 = infinite amount of fuel needed, or at least a set max factor where the fuel consumption would either be impractically high, or infinite, or almost infinite).

[Furyofaseraph]

A very good point that never crossed my mind... Food for thought.

EDIT:
I finished that klingon DD I was working on and started on another CL

[NeoKaede]

Are those FASA designs?

[Furyofaseraph]

Yup :-D

[King Class Scout]

looks like we went in the same direction.  i did that kind of colouring for my take on the D9, but with more green

[Furyofaseraph]

It seems like the romulans have the monopoly on green, in my mind, so I thought I'd go with something different, but familiar - hence Q'onos One colors. I think it makes them more stimulating, visually.

[Dalek]

They're certainly more garish. And more fun to look at as you blow the holy mazoolas out of them.