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Dalek · « **Reply #180 on:** November 30, 2009, 04:45:05 PM »

Well, the SG pack missiles were launched vertically from there launch bay and then they adjusted there angle to chase the target ship. All with puffs of smoke.

Furyofaseraph · « **Reply #181 on:** November 30, 2009, 06:14:41 PM »

Eh thats visual, which again, is secondary in my mind.. Missiles can look like torps for all I care, just so long as they behave like missiles.

CptBenSisko · « **Reply #182 on:** December 01, 2009, 06:26:10 PM »

The missles in SFC were tracking were they not? which means a ship didn't have to be facing an opponent to fire them....again if my memory is correct

Furyofaseraph · « **Reply #183 on:** December 01, 2009, 06:39:28 PM »

Correct - they had a 360 degree arc (which is not as overpowering as it seems).

If you have a group of drones (or missiles) coming at you, you have two choices: Run them out, or shoot them down with point-defense. Early-era drones are easy to outrun because they are quite slow, later on drones get faster, it takes more energy for you to outrun them (which means you use less power for charging weapons, which is good news for the missile caster).
Ships that don't have much in the way of armament basically have no choice but to run them out, unless the number of drones coming at them is tiny.
Ships that have good point defense but are slow can cruise as normal, relying on phasers and AMD (anti-Missile Defense - think flak gun) to take the out... However, if you throw enough missiles at a target, eventually their Point Defense will become saturated and some will get through.

deadthunder2_0 · « **Reply #184 on:** December 01, 2009, 06:44:05 PM »

The only reason they tracked was because the only other tracking weapon in the game was the plasma torpedo.
The races that didn't have plasmas, or fusion beams had missiles. (Okay the feds had the Bismark class Excelcior type, but that is not the point.
Also there were three types of missiles, the slow ones (red), the fast ones (blue), and the ones that traveled very fast (purple)
And there were the type 5s and type 7s.
Also they were fired in spreads. A battleship could destroy a heavy cruiser in one salvo.

EDIT
Also why not use the pulse function for one type of missile and torps for the rest
because the BC hp only likes 4 torps

Furyofaseraph · « **Reply #185 on:** December 01, 2009, 06:52:32 PM »

Those are the baseline facts (except its type I and type IV - Type ones did less damage but you can fit more and were easier to kill, type IVs were larger so they did more damage, were harder to kill, but you could fit less in your ammo stores).

A battleship could take out a heavy cruiser in one salvo if the heavy cruiser was an idiot, lol.
Thats not to say that the battleship would end up knocking the crap out of the heavy cruiser, but it probably wouldn't be the drones that did it - and definately not in one salvo.

If i were in a heavy cruiser up against a battleship - I would run, but if i couldn't do that and I had to fight it, I would run at medium-high speed with ECM up - ECM disrupts the accuracy of photon torpedoes pretty badly. I'd turn into it and fire my torps at any opportunity I could, and depending on current circumstance, use my heavier phasers, too.

If he were dumb, he'd launch all his drones at me all at once. I could beam out a mine into space between me and the drone wave - the drones set off the mine, causing the drones to be destroyed - poor mans point defense.

If he were smart, he would actually charge at me, just barely over the speed of the drones he was firing, and fire the drones once at a time on my way in. This way, all the drones start off spread out (so they can't be mined like above) but they do end up coming in closer to one another when they come in, saturating point defense.

Drones are very lethal against people who don't know what to do against them. Drones are very easy to take care of once you've figured out how, in most circumstances.

Another tactic was to grab someone with a tractor beam and then unload all your drones on him (the tractor prevents him from running, and prevents him from launching a decoy).

deadthunder2_0 · « **Reply #186 on:** December 01, 2009, 09:32:29 PM »

yeah now i remember, but drones were at most times the least of my worries, the slow ones could be outran and enemys didn't use the fast ones. Most of the time I was worried about plasmas, those Romulan King Condors were a pain in the a**.

Furyofaseraph · « **Reply #187 on:** December 01, 2009, 09:46:19 PM »

You can basically do the same thing with plasmas as you would a fast drone - run them out (point defense doesn't really work against plasma all too well). If you were cruising at speed 31 and were careful with the way you were flying, you'd never get hit by a plasma torp.
Contrary to popular belief, plasmas are not a primary weapon. They are designed to crunch, sure, but thats not how you use them unless your enemy makes a mistake. You use your plasmas to keep a ship away from you (since they have to run in order to keep from being struck by them). As they run, you can use your phasers to gun at the same shield over and over. Rinse and repeat.
Also, Plasmas have a thing called a Pseudo plasma torp. Plasmas take forever to recharge (and a lot of power, too). So if you let one lose and it the enemy runs them out, they can close on you and you have nothing to deter them with. Use a pseudo plasma in order to keep them guessing "wait, are they unloaded or was that last one a fake".

There's more to it, too - but I won't go any farther into it.

deadthunder2_0 · « **Reply #188 on:** December 01, 2009, 10:02:08 PM »

It's been a long time since i played sfc2, but i liked the hydrans better than anyone else. The fusion beams and Hellbores are sweet.

Furyofaseraph · « **Reply #189 on:** December 02, 2009, 03:32:00 AM »

And the Z-CM is done

Furyofaseraph · « **Reply #190 on:** December 04, 2009, 09:13:42 PM »

ISC Ships.

We've got 2 Star Cruisers (one with a PPD one with a Plasma Torpedo instead of the PPD) and a Flagship Cruiser.

EDIT

Added the Battle Carrier and the Frigate

EDIT 2

Added the Destroyer

Furyofaseraph · « **Reply #191 on:** December 05, 2009, 02:09:32 PM »

No one seems to notice when I edit the last entry, so here goes. (yell at me if you'd to like mods ;))

the I-CL (Light Cruiser) and I-CS (Strike cruiser)

Dalek · « **Reply #192 on:** December 05, 2009, 02:10:42 PM »

Yeah, editing posts doesn't get the attention making a new post does.

Looking good though

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Furyofaseraph · « **Reply #193 on:** December 05, 2009, 03:25:02 PM »

Oh don't worry: there is more.

Heavy Destroyer

deadthunder2_0 · « **Reply #194 on:** December 05, 2009, 03:38:16 PM »

i have some weapons that look like missiles and act like missiles, that is until after they pass the ship, but that is a bc error.
here is the py

bankruptstudios · « **Reply #195 on:** December 05, 2009, 03:44:04 PM »

Wow!!!

Furyofaseraph · « **Reply #196 on:** December 05, 2009, 04:45:56 PM »

Here's another one: The Arbiter-class War Cruiser.

I have five more ships to make, but they will be easy. I hope to be finished by tonight.

EDIT: it would help if I posted a picture

Aramus · « **Reply #197 on:** December 05, 2009, 05:22:52 PM »

some nice work i see there my friend good stuff.

Furyofaseraph · « **Reply #198 on:** December 06, 2009, 12:10:40 AM »

Thanks.

The fleet has been completed and released for SFC (except for fighters, bases, freighters and stuff like that, which I haven't even made >.<)

Here's the last of the stuff

King Class Scout · « **Reply #199 on:** December 06, 2009, 08:06:08 AM »

too bad this stuff is SFC only. you do fantastic skinwork.

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