WIP of TheUnknown - The Akula (mk II)

[Nebula]

hmm this is what I could find..



if ya don't want this in here unknown please say so. ;)

[007bashir]

Reminds me of the docking system from the wachtower class!

[X_TheUnknown_X]

Thanks for the compliments, people  . To answer a few questions:
Bren: Yes, I'm definately considering putting putting a bluish tint on the spacedock - unless, of course, white works better  ;) .
Neb and 9thDawg: It's just a maybe on the exterior dock, I could do a seperate model with the docks in place if it's a commonly requested feature.
Saquist: I used Mr Widle's pictures on SFM for reference on the antennae towers as the blueprints I have didn't show them up very well. The doors are going to stay at their current width, only because making them smaller would mean giving less room for a Galaxy-class sized ship to enter, and that would mean having to scale it up even more. And in the case of the shuttle docks, they are unevenly sized because of the way I've had to extrude them from the model; I'll see what I can do, but they may have to stay as well.

[X_TheUnknown_X]

Either way, these stations are going to hold a lot of people. In my mind, a space station of these proportions would only really be found near important Federation colonies or territories (like Earth Spacedock or Starbase 12). I guess the key point is the difference in volume between a Galaxy-class and Constitution-class-scaled station; it's just one of those many inconsistencies that make up Star Trek...  :roll . Still, I'll keep this model to-scale with the Galaxy.

I haven't had enough time to make much progress with the station yet, but I've got the texture on the upper dome started - and I'm going to continue from there. Here's my work so far; with a Galaxy in there for scaling.

[JimmyB76]

*offtopic cleared*

guys please stop debating about technical specs and how many people can fit in whatever size starbase or whatever - that whole convo can be for a different thread in a different forum and not polluting X_TheUnknown_X's thread ok?

thx

[baz1701]

Love the paneling so far, not a fan of the door markings though

[Lurok91]

Love the paneling so far, not a fan of the door markings though

Agree.  Thought doors on spacedock v1 pretty good 

[Saquist]

Apologies for the off topic Unkown


I don't believe that particular yellow symbol was on the doors.  Where does it come from?

[baz1701]

Think your on the right track but from my research it needs to be bigger and more muted yellow

[Captain_D]

Wonderful job on the textures so far, especially the antennae section on top.  

Have to agree with the rest on the door. A mix of what you have and what baz 1701 has come up with would look much better.

[X_TheUnknown_X]

Door markings have been edited as per requests - I've toned down the yellow border around it, widened it and sharpened the whole thing up a little. I've also increased the visability of the hull panelling and started adding in the shuttle hangars. I'm also debating whether to change the base colour (either to a greyer tone or bluer tone  )
A new render to show the progess so far:

[deadthunder2_0]

it looks like it should be bluer from a image above

[Nihilus]

Maybe a tad bluer but I wouldn't go overboard with it.  I'd say one thing that makes the Station look Blue in the movie is the fact all the interior lighting is blue.  In fact, does that mean you will add blue lighted windows or make them white?

[Saquist]

Door markings have been edited as per requests - I've toned down the yellow border around it, widened it and sharpened the whole thing up a little. I've also increased the visability of the hull panelling and started adding in the shuttle hangars. I'm also debating whether to change the base colour (either to a greyer tone or bluer tone  )
A new render to show the progess so far:

Space dock is the same color as the Enterprise.
Even the stock BC SB got that right.  Color comes from the lighting and the planet.  It's really a matter of your personal choice if you think it enhances the look or not.  Clearly the effects artist thought it did but that was added by film effect.

[Killallewoks]

Why not just give a light grey tone and let the lighting do the rest? 

[JamesTiberiusKirk]

Space dock is the same color as the Enterprise.
Even the stock BC SB got that right.  Color comes from the lighting and the planet.  It's really a matter of your personal choice if you think it enhances the look or not.  Clearly the effects artist thought it did but that was added by film effect.

Because BC can never achieve the same environmental lighting and setting, it would be wise to mimic the effects. Id say stick with the blue. It may also be a suggestion, to include two versions. Colorschemes dont need that much time.

oh and btw, all windows and glowing areas dont reflect light. they really are blue. keep that in mind

[Dalek]

I'm not sure that red band should be so prominent. I know theres a lot of lighting used in the shots for ST:III but that band still seems to dark to be that bright.

[Saquist]

I'm not sure that red band should be so prominent.

Indeed.
Frankly I think the top Red bar (that in BC represents the phaser array) is just TOO wide.  So it looks extremely prominent in the true color white environment.  The lower red stripe is the same color but because it's thinner it doesn't end up looking like a racing stripe.

Perhaps a subtle red/grey or muted red or vermillion along with a thinner stripe?

[X_TheUnknown_X]

Indeed.
Frankly I think the top Red bar (that in BC represents the phaser array) is just TOO wide.  So it looks extremely prominent in the true color white environment.  The lower red stripe is the same color but because it's thinner it doesn't end up looking like a racing stripe.

One of the problems I'm facing by referencing the movie screencaps is that the whole scene has strong blue colour grading, it throws off the true colour of the model (a beige/white) - and mutes some of the other hues (such as the red).

Anyway, I've darkened the red stripe and thinned it a bit, and given the station a bluer hull tone. The textures are coming along nicely, albeit slowly, this is where I'm at now:

[tiqhud]

Nice, but shouldn't the lower half match the more bluish of the upper half? looks really good tho