KHAN could return in JJ films..

[Daystar70]

This is a quote from an interview with JJ abrhams

"Following the box office success of J. J. Abrams' Star Trek reboot and the announcement that actors Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto had tentatively agreed to appear in two sequels, internet rumors began circulating about the plot of the second film. Abrams hinted that because of the alternate timeline created in the first film, that reintroducing Khan into Star Trek lore remained a possibility. Abrams told MTV, ""[Khan and Kirk] exist ? and while their history may not be exactly as people are familiar with, I would argue that a person's character is what it is," Abrams said of the notion that his Khan could be just as evil, even if Kirk never stranded him on Ceti Alpha V. "Certain people are destined to cross paths and come together, and Khan is out there?even if he doesn't have the same issues."[29]o

I had already decided for sure to make Khan a Main villain in my revised Daystar series, and while researching and watching "space seed" again for ideas, i stumbled upon this info, Obviously they would have to recast Khan but if they did a good job recasting him, it could be quite cool.

[086gf]

Only the 100th time this has been mentioned by jj and crew. Though I doubt they will go that wayI really do. Save a familiar character for the third movie. Let the second movie reinforce the audience that this really is a new fork in the road.

[Daystar70]

I agree, the latest i heard they are thijnking not of a "villain" but a "dilemma" for the plot.

[Psyco Diver]

I'm thinking Khan for this movie, then the 3rd on will be the launch of the Enterprise B and he some how doesn't fall in the nexus

[undedavenger]

It doesn't matter what the plot, we all know ejecting the warp core will save the day!

Seriously, they need to come up with something new, or this new series will just fall into the uncreative hole Star Trek has rotted in for a decade or more. Forget Khan. Maybe on like the 5th or 6th film. But lets get the new stuff out there now.

[Daystar70]

I disagree, Khan was voted by The Online Critics association one of the ":top 10 screen villains" of all time. For good reason. Character wise, seeing a new take on Kirk and Khan battling wits would make me quite happy. Last time, Khan tricked Kirk and it was avery Uneven fight with Enterprise crippled, i want to see two starships, fully shielded, ready for battle, and see who's strategy wins by the end.

[undedavenger]

Logically, it would be Kirk. Superior intelligence does not mean superior knowledge. Kirk beat Khan in both Space Seed and in TWOK because he knew the starship and tactics better than Khan.

As for the other, Michael Myers would be considered a great movie villain, but too many movies has made him just another slasher. Khan is just fine the way he is. Seriously, is this all Trek fans demand? To see their favorite characters and plots rehashed? That's sad. There is virtually limitless potential in the Star Trek universe, why revisit the same stuff.

Not to mention that TWOK is not just a Star Trek classic, it is a MOVIE CLASSIC. It stands on its own.

[Daystar70]

Agreed on the classic bit. You can still do both, have something new going on, and add Khan as the villain, just as You can have lex luthor in a superman film and still offer more going on around them.

[undedavenger]

Yeah, but that didn't happen in the last Superman movie, either. it was bits and pieces of previous plots thrown together. Hollywood in general has no imagination. Roddenberry got together some of the best Sci-Fi writers of the day to write TOS and TNG. They need to go back to that, rather than letting hollywood animals write the scripts. Some of the authors of the Trek and Star Wars novels are inventive and write captivating work. I say turn some of them loose on the next Trek film!

[Daystar70]

Actually with Trek, and this is not to say there isnt "some good" fan stuff, but for some reason, fan made Trek media tends to be Great on visuals Horrible at diolouge and delivery, Take Hidden frontier for one example (phase2/formally New voyages is an exception, it is well done) Hidden frontier gets kudos for being "ambitious as Hell:" and ive seen some Great awesome ship battles, i remember one episode where major Kira and the defiant comes warping in with a Dominion Fleet with her, to save the day at the Briar patch vs the Breen and Tholians. BUT..that being said..The acting was HORRID and they really had a problem with technobabble to the extreme, Novel wise, okay, i have read some great stories, Like that one (title eludes me) where in mirror universe 7 of 9 is an agent for the cardassians and undercover, becomes Kira/Intendents Lesbian Mistress..smoking hot erotic writing adult Trek, at its best. (i'm a perv so sexuality in Trek is a huge win-win for me, i'm one of the saps who drooled at T'pols massage and decontamination scenes and i'lll admit it every time lol)

[undedavenger]

I'm not talking about fans writing this stuff, although they should be open to the idea of bringing in the few good fan authors. I'm talking about established sci-fi/fantasy writers like David George and R.A. Salvatore. There are several great scifi authors out there who I'm sure would like to have a few big Hollywood paychecks.

[candle_86]

you cant do Khan, while somethings can be explained away you cant explain away why khan looks totally diffrent, no to khan

[Dalek]

Need I point out Kirk and Spock and Uhura and Chekov and Scotty. They all look different. As far as the JJverse is concerned, they haven't met Khan yet.

[Daystar70]

Do i need to bitch slap you on the whole "actors appearence"? topic? candle in all this time i have never met anyone as close minded and stubborn for a fan of a sci fi series. (that was jokingly said not hostile please nbote the tone is meant as such). Khan can be replaced. superman can, batman can, ANYONE can. open your mind brother! sheesh. NO actor is irreplaceable. character is more important than actor. Everyone knows this, it doesnt have to be explained.  I cant believe seriously,you even said that. No offense meant, but c'mon....how do YOU explain saavik mr no explanation? hm? can you explain saaviks change of appearence? bet you cant.

[Daystar70]

Candle i wanna apologise if i sounded Harsh or Hostile. Your opinion is your own, i just was caught off guard. Your very passionate and so am i. But know this- i do like you.

[Biggins]

Sorry, but if the next film had Khan in it my faith in a good reboot will go out of the window, perhaps someone giving mention to his Tyranny on earth before botany bay would work though.

[candle_86]

 well i think charther and actor are one in the same. Chris Pine does a shoody Kirk, Quinto didnt even act like a Vulcan. And no actor today can act like Montoblan did for Space Seed or The Wrath of Khan. Remember it was there personality that made the chareter.

[Dalek]

So, they're different. For all you know, the JJKhan could be much better than the original. I honestly don't care, I just find it mildly amusing that we need to debate if Khan is going to be crappy or not. We simply do not know and its a common human trait to be scared of the unkown and wollop it over the end if we don't like it at first.

[candle_86]

no because no one can pull off a montiblan except him thats why and its impossible to be a better villian them him. Then again what do i care i wont see this movie anyway

[Darkthunder]

As Daystar said, any actor can be replaced. While it might be difficult for some to imagine new actors in familiar roles, it doesn't make the new actor any less worth than the original.

Regarding your opinion of Pine's Kirk, and Quinto's Spock, those are ofcourse your opinions. I think you'll find that the majority disagrees with you on that subject thou.