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Re: If JJ were to take on TNG and DS9
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2010, 12:59:53 PM »
Clearly you're unfamiliar with antique american cars.

actually, I'm well familliar with them.  i prefer Kaiser-Frasier and postwar caddys.  the curves I'm referring to are the mid eighties to mid ninties slushbox sedans with their detuned 140 hose V6's and sub 200 hp V8's that were prevelant at that point.  the generations that they aimed at (for the movie) remember them as slow, worn out and ugly.  there's also a distaste, lately, for "obvious" retro designs.  it doesn't explain the wave of 80's Nostalga currently sweeping Hollywood, though.

Locke: i don't think it's the plot, I think it's more the deliberatly retro-ish design of the JJprise that people don't like.  mostly the nacelles.  and even I think that the Kelvin type engines look better than JJ's male anatomy shaped engines :P  mabey that's a reason the bussards aren't red anymore.

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Re: If JJ were to take on TNG and DS9
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2010, 01:59:03 AM »
Gosh, it's amazing how much Americans are loathed here . . .  :mad:  For some reason, it seems okay to bash us around here, but I'll bet a large chunk of my butt if I were to do the same against, say, South Africans or Koreans or Indians (from INDIA), I would be handed my hat and told to leave.  Hmmmm . . .  :cry:

And am I the ONLY one in Star Trek fandom that actually LIKED the new Trek?!  WTF?

Amen, we Americans are so under-appreciated these days.  And JJ Trek isn't bad (but it certainly is different).

ON A SIDE NOTE:  Locke, have you ever read Ender's Game? :D

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Re: If JJ were to take on TNG and DS9
« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2010, 02:31:35 AM »
ON A SIDE NOTE:  Locke, have you ever read Ender's Game? :D

Where do you think I got my name?  Started out on my FS site as Ender and wound up as Locke a few years later.  More like Peter than Andrew, I guess. ;)

Locke & Demosthenes are two of my favorite ideas Card ever came up with.  Unfortunately he wrote the concept into the ground with the Bean series.  Having Bean and Petra do the same thing was a bit too much, if you ask me.

BACK ON TOPIC:

The JJ-verse should never include either TNG or DS9.  The objective was to reinvent the wheel, not the cart or the horse.  Kirk and company are far enough back in years to have a new rendition count as an entirely new idea.  Just like new and old BSG, when you get right down to it, they aren't even the same show.  One was a campy "wagon-train to the stars" and the other is a fast-paced SciFi drama movie.  Both are extremely likable in their own fashions, but neither one is equipped to deal with the other on common ground.  I understand this, and so accept the idea that Roddenberry's vision was different than that of Abrams or Okuda.  Each brought something unique to the storyline and characters, and each has their own ideas about where the show should have it's main purpose.

To give TNG the treatment would simply overcomplicate an already intricate show.  Where the original series had hokey-jokey concepts like "Spock's Brain" and "The Trouble With Tribbles", the Enterprise crew of the 24th century had to deal with complex problems of social commentary far beyond the reach or scope of the original.  Likewise, the new Abrams film chose to take that same direction and expand on it, often coming closer to the Next Gen style of storytelling.

I'll end this diatribe here, since I don't want to tax my own brain by turning it into some sort of goo running out of my ears in response to my own BS. :dance

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Re: If JJ were to take on TNG and DS9
« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2010, 10:43:49 AM »
Locke- best.statement.ever :P

I agree completely, cookie for you :P
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Re: If JJ were to take on TNG and DS9
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2010, 11:03:43 AM »
Locke- best.statement.ever :P

I agree completely, cookie for you :P

Thank you, sir. :dance

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Re: If JJ were to take on TNG, DS9 and Voyager
« Reply #25 on: July 05, 2010, 03:34:24 PM »
Here we go again. This time with Voyager ofcourse. Again kind of lol worthy stuff here.

Gemma Arterton as Janeway
Temuera Morrison as Chakotay(Jango Fett/CLone Trooper)
Justin Timberlake as Tom Paris(lolwut?)
Wood Harris as Tuvok
Mark Strong as the Doctor
Ellen Page as B'Elanna
Timmy Williams as Neelix
Rain as Harry Kim
Teresa Palmer as Kes
Katee Sackhoff as 7of9
Elle Fanning as Naomi Wildman(Dakota's younger sister)
Harry Belafonte as Tuvix
Tilda Swinton as Seska
DJ Qualls as Kar the Kazon-Ogla
Richard Kind as Mark Johnson
The Predalien as Species 8472(lol!)

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Re: If JJ were to take on TNG, DS9 and Voyager
« Reply #26 on: July 05, 2010, 03:38:26 PM »
oh brother...   :facepalm: :roll
i cannot believe this article-writer gets paid for this junk...

katie sackhoff for 7 of 9???  like, really?  this guy needs to be fired from his job...

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Re: If JJ were to take on TNG, DS9 and Voyager
« Reply #27 on: July 05, 2010, 03:47:35 PM »
Her face really doesn't sell Seven of Nine.

Justin Timberlake as Tom Paris - wtf? Really?

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Re: If JJ were to take on TNG, DS9 and Voyager
« Reply #28 on: July 05, 2010, 04:29:58 PM »
The Temuera Morrison/Chakotay comparison is scary.  That definitely could work.

However, the Predalien/8472 thing definitely confirmed to me that the writer isn't actually serious.

How many times has Mark Strong showed up?

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Re: If JJ were to take on TNG, DS9 and Voyager
« Reply #29 on: July 05, 2010, 11:05:57 PM »
This is all just farcical.  I can't believe you are all getting so riled up about it.  Fire the guy?!  Hire him MORE I say.  I want more laughs like this.  The Justin Timberlake thing had me laughing for a good one earlier!  Ellen Page as Torres?  Funny as hell!  I can just see her and Timberlake trying to start up a romance.  Juno vs the Numbnut!  Huzzah! :funny

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Re: If JJ were to take on TNG, DS9 and Voyager
« Reply #30 on: July 05, 2010, 11:50:15 PM »
Justin Bieber for Wesley!  :evil: :funny
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Re: If JJ were to take on TNG, DS9 and Voyager
« Reply #31 on: July 06, 2010, 12:23:28 AM »
insta-cookie  :funny :funny :funny :funny :funny :funny lol, justin bieber
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Re: If JJ were to take on TNG, DS9 and Voyager
« Reply #32 on: July 06, 2010, 12:31:10 AM »
Casting Justin Bieber as Wesley Crusher would eliminate any small chance of making the character likable - even slightly.  :dontcare:

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Re: If JJ were to take on TNG, DS9 and Voyager
« Reply #33 on: July 06, 2010, 12:33:21 AM »
thats why its funny
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Re: If JJ were to take on TNG, DS9 and Voyager
« Reply #34 on: July 06, 2010, 01:07:16 AM »
Kinda off-topic, but someone brought up Wesley.

I've read a couple of places (and seen in the IMDb cast listing) that he was in First Contact, but I can never figure out where.  Anyone know the answer to this?

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Re: If JJ were to take on TNG, DS9 and Voyager
« Reply #35 on: July 06, 2010, 01:10:38 AM »
Kinda off-topic, but someone brought up Wesley.

I've read a couple of places (and seen in the IMDb cast listing) that he was in First Contact, but I can never figure out where.  Anyone know the answer to this?
Actually he was in Nemesis during the wedding scene. He sat at the far end of the table so you can only see him in widescreen versions. All his lines got cut too so he doesn't talk, he just sits there.

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Re: If JJ were to take on TNG, DS9 and Voyager
« Reply #36 on: July 06, 2010, 07:03:44 AM »
Actually he was in Nemesis during the wedding scene. He sat at the far end of the table so you can only see him in widescreen versions. All his lines got cut too so he doesn't talk, he just sits there.

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Re: If JJ were to take on TNG, DS9 and Voyager
« Reply #37 on: July 09, 2010, 03:12:55 PM »
This dude needs to get his species right...Seska was never undercover as a Terran...it was Bajoran LOL

And Jimmy I have to agree with you on 7of9...

Although the little remark on Elle Fanning made me laugh ("Because Dakota Fanning is getting too old" LMAO) as well as JT playing Tom...
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