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Re: Norway Class Refit
« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2010, 01:12:31 AM »
ah SF2 she has torps... look a few posts back.

Ok, maybe i didn't look at the right pix but the ones that show the top bottom and stuff I didn't see any for the rear.
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Re: Norway Class Refit
« Reply #21 on: December 06, 2010, 11:41:57 AM »
Ok, maybe i didn't look at the right pix but the ones that show the top bottom and stuff I didn't see any for the rear.

rear torp tube is above the shuttle bay like on the SOV
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Re: Norway Class Refit
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2010, 07:44:21 PM »
Yeah, the aft torpedo launcher is located along the spine of the shuttlebay.

Here are a couple more pics featuring the new ventral-aft phaser arrays and the subtle darkening of the hull paneling.  I still haven't had a chance to address the nacelles or impulse engine areas.  Those are on my list for this week, and then I'll get the specular and illumination maps made up so I can import her into my game and take screen shots.

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Re: Norway Class Refit
« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2010, 10:40:25 PM »
can you give ne nacelle grills a deep blue like on the galaxy class? and maybe give the bussards only a deep red? i think that would look much better

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Re: Norway Class Refit
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2010, 12:49:46 AM »
and that notch where the deflector sits..you gotta line that blank space with something, sorta like voyagers aux deflector...that huge blank spot really stands out.
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Re: Norway Class Refit
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2010, 08:29:20 AM »
Looking neat there  :thumbsup:

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Re: Norway Class Refit
« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2010, 12:35:05 PM »
can you give ne nacelle grills a deep blue like on the galaxy class? and maybe give the bussards only a deep red? i think that would look much better

either that or make the bussads animated(somehow, its your choice) and use a sort of, sovereign inspired nacell grille, that'd be quite awsome.

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Re: Norway Class Refit
« Reply #27 on: December 12, 2010, 06:57:52 PM »
That red is pretty dark as it is, isn't it? What do you want, a ship with blood floating around the bussard collectors?

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Re: Norway Class Refit
« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2010, 07:08:19 PM »
no one said anything about dark, more a constant color. and that being deep red.

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Re: Norway Class Refit
« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2010, 10:09:54 PM »
I can see a more consistent red being used for the collectors.  The current texture matches the Sovereign collectors, which emphasize their gaseous nature, but after spending some time looking at other ships (the new images of the Vesta in particular), I'm definitely leaning toward something more similar to the other ships.  I will not change the plasma vents to a grill design, but I will experiment with a change in color once I get this into Photoshop.  My plan there is to go with more of a turquoise color. 

I've also adjusted the color scheme to be darker.  The eggshell blue is now blending with the base gray more, and the dark gray accent is much darker.  A few minor alterations to the escape pods were also made.  The cut-out where the deflector is located is meant to be completely smooth and without additional design or panels.  It will have a different level on the specular map so that it appears shinier.   

Finally, I'm going to decrease the opacity of the current paneling and add a completely new layer of larger, individually designed panels that fall more in line with the Sovereign and particularly the Vesta.  I just haven't been able to shake the feeling that the ship looked incomplete.  Some of that is due to it's current lack of hardware details (like sensor panels), but I think the paneling is the biggest issue for me personally.

The light map is mostly finished.  Hopefully I can get these changes made this week and get the textures completed.  After that, Starforce offered to convert the model to Bridge Commander so that I can get started on a re-imagined Prometheus class (which maintains MVAM but only in two parts and only with two nacelles).   

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Re: Norway Class Refit
« Reply #30 on: December 13, 2010, 02:46:55 PM »
Looking good but the ventral is still a bit empty. :)

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Re: Norway Class Refit
« Reply #31 on: December 13, 2010, 07:19:51 PM »
http://www.starshipmodeler.com/trek/vgr_top.jpg

I think you should fill the empty space in front of the deflector dish in it's "notch" with someone similar to whats on the aux deflector at the nose of Voyager pictured above.
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Re: Norway Class Refit
« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2011, 10:14:20 PM »
Just as an update, I now have the properly converted (as far as I can tell from the mpe, anyways) ship in my possession and will start working on it soon.
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Re: Norway Class Refit
« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2011, 11:11:48 PM »
This hp project is on hold. I didn't notice untill I actualy went to begin work tonight that the ship was facing the wrong direction in the MPE.
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Re: Norway Class Refit
« Reply #34 on: January 20, 2011, 06:07:19 AM »
This hp project is on hold. I didn't notice untill I actualy went to begin work tonight that the ship was facing the wrong direction in the MPE.
thats a new one  :lostit:

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Re: Norway Class Refit
« Reply #35 on: January 20, 2011, 12:54:43 PM »
This hp project is on hold. I didn't notice untill I actualy went to begin work tonight that the ship was facing the wrong direction in the MPE.

Did you rotate it properly before exporting it? :P

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Re: Norway Class Refit
« Reply #36 on: January 20, 2011, 07:28:51 PM »
The author exported it. The first one had no textures, this one is textured but is backwards. If he can give me the model as a 3ds I can exported it correctly myself but I've not heard back from him yet.
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Re: Norway Class Refit
« Reply #37 on: January 20, 2011, 07:35:13 PM »
thats a new one  :lostit:

Normally means wrong nif structure... so not new.

SF send the nif my way ill take a look.

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Re: Norway Class Refit
« Reply #38 on: January 21, 2011, 12:20:48 AM »
if you have a means of rotating a nif 180 degrees?
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Re: Norway Class Refit
« Reply #39 on: January 21, 2011, 07:17:25 AM »
if you have a means of rotating a nif 180 degrees?

well the easiest way if you dont have Max or anything is nifskope....

So still send it if you want.

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