TOS to TNG redeco?

[King Class Scout]

I just had a silly idea this morning.  i've re-located the TOS bridge Pack (works perfectly fine, now.  musta been my then non KM install), and put it back in.  i was thinking...what would that look like TNG style?

I've decided to try and pull off a TNG redeco of a TOS bridge (but not release it unless permission and interest are forthcoming).  for me, the hard bit is going to be the equivelant of the LCARS.

anybody interested?

[baz1701]

Well the I'd say go for it, need to keep this game alive and well as it reaches it's 9th year.

[Lurok91]

I wonder whether rather than TNG it might be more interesting to go JJ-style?   That way you could combine the retro look of bridge with the funky new JJ-lcar style.  And the cool new retro-uniform look of course.    Just a thought 

[King Class Scout]

I'll need refrences for the JJ lcars. this may end up as a co-op.  I'm not gonna touch animations or the actual model (as proven here, you need max 3 for that)

if people want the JJ uniforms, they can download that mod, themselves.  this will strictly be the bridge.  I'm working on my own uniform mods, anyway. they're pretty simple; 2 bodies, 3 uniforms

well *cracks knuckles* better get started.

don't be suprised to see recycled stock Lcars as placeholders.

[baz1701]

The only thing I would recommend is rename the files you are using as to not overwrite the original bridge.

And if the bridge already has animated textures assigned then you cannot easily replace these for static ones as you they will have IFL's assigned where you want to use TGA's

Catch me online later and we'll chat about it.

[Lurok91]

I'll need refrences for the JJ lcars. this may end up as a co-op.  I'm not gonna touch animations or the actual model (as proven here, you need max 3 for that)

if people want the JJ uniforms, they can download that mod, themselves.  this will strictly be the bridge.  I'm working on my own uniform mods, anyway. they're pretty simple; 2 bodies, 3 uniforms

well *cracks knuckles* better get started.

don't be suprised to see recycled stock Lcars as placeholders.

Bones was working on some nice-looking JJ lcars
http://bc-central.net/forums/index.php/topic,7284.0.html

And LCARSking Adge Cutler (lcars.org.uk) has done a lot of the canon JJ Kelvin and Enterprise lcars.   I incorported some into my test EarlyTMPMiranda-to-JJ.   I think what's interesting about the JJ-style is that is combines the low-tech keypads etc of TOS and ENT with the slick futuristic lcars.  So perfect 

[Bones]

you might wanna check this out ;)



there's more of it here : http://bc-central.net/forums/index.php/topic,7284.0.html

I never had time to finish this but I have plenty of JJverse hand made from scratch screens (at least 10 variations ... maybe more + some cool keypads)

[Lurok91]

That's what I was talking about     Someone's gotta use those...can't let them go to waste

[King Class Scout]

arright...I've been completing the personal deco I started first to get an idea of what goes where on the textures (i have to copy over the standard textures, as everything's lumped together).

no caps quite yet, as I want to get some bulk finished first.  you guys will also get an idea of the P-Star's interface setup.  once I have my own deco really going, and have memorized what bits go where, I'll slap those in.

also, I'm gonna draw colors from the schemes of existing ship interiors, but I'd like to know which one...mabey I'll set up my first poll...

edit : *f bomb* i hate my dyspraxia.  can someone point me to where to edit the poll?

[Bones]

ok I'm uploading a link to those displays, there's at least 3 displays with 3 frames animation and are higher res than the rest - 12 sets with about 4 screens per set gives you crapload of additional screens, there are also some keypads ;)

have fun
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3658970/jjdisplays.rar

[King Class Scout]

cheers, bones.

I'm gonna do some more finish work, then do some screencaps of the "personal" version, first.  you guys can tell me where to tone down colors with that one.

[Lurok91]

ok I'm uploading a link to those displays, there's at least 3 displays with 3 frames animation and are higher res than the rest - 12 sets with about 4 screens per set gives you crapload of additional screens, there are also some keypads ;)

have fun
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3658970/jjdisplays.rar

Great lcars    Looking forward to trying out...

[King Class Scout]

okay, I'm having some trouble with the red alert panels swapping.  the underscreen tracers and the red alert pyramid on the helm console are working just fine, but since this bridge has 3 variants in one package, some things are not coming out correctly.

there are three red alert lights on the walls; one to the right of the viewscreen, one to the left only on the TOS version (this is replaced by a lift door on the TAS version), and the one near the back lift doors.

also, how do you change and/or brighten the RA blinker?  i want to brighten these for the TNG version.

[baz1701]

Great textures bones. I have a JJ bridge that can really use them.

[Lurok91]

okay, I'm having some trouble with the red alert panels swapping.  the underscreen tracers and the red alert pyramid on the helm console are working just fine, but since this bridge has 3 variants in one package, some things are not coming out correctly.

there are three red alert lights on the walls; one to the right of the viewscreen, one to the left only on the TOS version (this is replaced by a lift door on the TAS version), and the one near the back lift doors.

also, how do you change and/or brighten the RA blinker?  i want to brighten these for the TNG version.

According to autoload script,  the wall red alerts are alert_1.tga and  the helm pyramid is def_alarm1 on each bridge.    You can adjust brightness of alert_1.tga in any graphics program.   Hope that helps?   

[King Class Scout]

if I had vid capture, I'd show you what i mean, exactly.

it's not just the switching textures, in this case.  there's an intensity type LM (I think) behind those light panels that blinks as well, in a faint red.  this is what I'm looking to adjust.

since I'm testing what goes where with my own (horrible looking) bridge scheme, I notice that.  since my own guys use Blue instead of red as an alert color (generally, all lights go out but the alerts and LCARS), i see faint purple blinks, even with my "on" texture swap

[Lurok91]

I don't use this bridge ingame, but  from look of nif has that hardwired gamma-alert change thing going on  (similar to Defiant and Nebula).  Which basically means nothing you can do about it.  Sorry.         Either have to work with it,  or ignore it.   

[King Class Scout]

I'll wing it, then.

some of my corny "personal" scheme pics, done as a test run for establishing what was where in the textures.  thinking up my own LCARS design would take some time.