Non-federation alternate universe

[TheConstable6]

http://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=49295

This is fantastic! Brit-centric...but superb.

Oh and a long read.

[FarShot]

That is very Brit-centric indeed.  Not to hate on Britain or anything, but the US gets so bashed during that entire thing.  So much as to have even the Vulcans favor Britain during First Contact.  Maybe the writer forgot that Star Trek has been entirely produced in the United States.  And its not like Britain's economy is doing tons better than the US's.

[mckinneyc]

It is fiction remember!

[TheConstable6]

I'm American and I really liked it (then again, I'm like the least patriotic person ever invented... ) but parts were ridiculous, like when US defense platforms fired on an Iconian ship because the US was holding a captured Iconian ship that they hadn't shown the rest of the UESPA...and the Iconians came to retrieve their sh*t... 

[FarShot]

The part that I didn't like the most was that Voyager was trumped by "Captain Lore's" ship, the way larger and faster USS Echo.  Several things wrong with this:

-If Data himself couldn't turn Lore into a good person, how the heck did Britain? 
-Secondly, Voyager is supposed to be super advanced.  The thought that Britain produced a ship much larger and faster under their Royal Space Command versus the Federation's Voyager is blasphemous.
-Thirdly, Janeway simply wouldn't have stood for it.  At all.

The amount of super-British Imperialism is comparable to an alternate history written by a feminazi in which Kirk, Picard, Sisko, and Archer are all females and subject the Alpha Quadrant to tirades on female rights (versus sentient rights.)

A major component to the lore of Star Trek was that humanity was united, not divided by nationalistic and historic lines.  I'd take any nationalistic interpretation of Star Trek - American, British, or otherwise - as an insult to Gene Roddenberry and his vision.

[TheConstable6]

The part that I didn't like the most was that Voyager was trumped by "Captain Lore's" ship, the way larger and faster USS Echo.  Several things wrong with this:

-If Data himself couldn't turn Lore into a good person, how the heck did Britain? 
-Secondly, Voyager is supposed to be super advanced.  The thought that Britain produced a ship much larger and faster under their Royal Space Command versus the Federation's Voyager is blasphemous.
-Thirdly, Janeway simply wouldn't have stood for it.  At all.

The amount of super-British Imperialism is comparable to an alternate history written by a feminazi in which Kirk, Picard, Sisko, and Archer are all females and subject the Alpha Quadrant to tirades on female rights (versus sentient rights.)

A major component to the lore of Star Trek was that humanity was united, not divided by nationalistic and historic lines.  I'd take any nationalistic interpretation of Star Trek - American, British, or otherwise - as an insult to Gene Roddenberry and his vision.

Your last point is certainly true - it is fun to ponder with a pensive look upon your face, though  . What could've been, rather than what was?

I didn't think it was as big a weakness but I did find the abuse of Seven by the UESPA cringeworthy.

[FarShot]

I think this has got to be the most bigoted statement in the entire article:

Seven of Nine (Annika Hansen) is treated by UESPA as more like a lab rat than an individual after enduring six months of prodding, poking and testing by UESPA scientist. Seven of Nine (Annika Hansen) leaves the UESPA and renounces her American citizenship and becomes a citizen of the RSC with New Zealand citizenship with no intention of returning to the UESPA. The RSC treat Seven of Nine (Annika Hansen) much better than the UESPA ever did and Seven of Nine (Annika Hansen) becomes a specialist in stellar cartographic among other things.

I love the fact that UESPA = America when the acronym stands for United Earth.  I'm going to stop reading before I assault the author with harassing emails and PMs.

[tannerwaterbury]

Sounds like a Parallel Universe where Gene Roddenberry was from the UK. So does that mean that the US made Doctor Who in that timeline?

[limey BSc.]

It's generally considered bad form to bump a thread from so long ago.

Also, that story was written in 2006, yet is creepily accurate. While HOTOL was a project run in the 80's and mostly abandoned, its recently come back with the Skylon. A HTOL SSTO (Horizontal Take-Off and Landing, Single Stage To Orbit) space plane that supercools the oxygen in the air to burn with onboard liquid hydrogen. Also, that story says the UK left the EU in 2012, which caused the Euro to almost collapse. Well, the Euro has almost collapsed, and the Government has promised a referendum on leaving the EU if they win the next election.

Creepy.

[Vortex]

Sounds like a Parallel Universe where Gene Roddenberry was from the UK. So does that mean that the US made Doctor Who in that timeline?

No, you had a shot at that. It was called 1996 and is despised for good reasons. :p

[King Class Scout]

No, you had a shot at that. It was called 1996 and is despised for good reasons. :p

only by SOME of you Whovians.  This Whovian loved it.  after all, it had appeared that the Doctor had been Abandoned at the time.