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[Cube]

I saw the preview today. The 3D is abysmal, but the film looks good. It felt more like "Star Trek", even though the prime directive has been completely changed.

[Shadowknight1]

How so?  The Prime Directive prohibits interference with the natural development of a pre-warp civilization.

[Darkthunder]

From what i've seen so far (in trailers and news sources), is that they hide the Enterprise under the water surface, and Kirk and Bones are disguised in heavy clothing. Both of which, to prevent the indigenous population from realizing it's an alien species.

What I don't know, is why the Enterprise is hiding under water. If it's a pre-warp civilization, it's not likely they have any form of surveillance satellite system. The Enterprise could remain in orbit. HOWEVER... If there is something in the atmosphere preventing the transporter from being used, and if there is a major reason to bring the ship into the atmosphere, I could see them hiding it under water. Not hiding very well if they "land" it.

[Shadowknight1]

Well, I watched the preview on youtube before it got yanked, and considering that they state the transporter would need direct line-of-sight to get Spock out of the volcano, I think it's not too much of a stretch to consider that there's something in the atmosphere that restricts transporters.  As for hiding the ship in the ocean, that can easily be accomplished in the dead of night when the natives were asleep.  Also consider that the Enterprise may have been conducting tectonic research down there.  Otherwise, why would they consider that a volcano erupting would have cataclysmic consequences for the entire planet?

Obviously, Kirk will break the Prime Directive to save Spock.  They won't kill a main crew member within the first 9 minutes unless it's a Wrath of Khan-style fake-out.

[Cube]

How so?  The Prime Directive prohibits interference with the natural development of a pre-warp civilization.

I seem to remember an episode where they state that they can't to a single thing about a natural disaster that could do significant damage to a pre-warp civilisation (stopping a natural disaster would seriously alter the natural development of the civilisation), that they could only observe. This part of a prime directive generally got ingored, so I'm glad it's been changed to "you can help, as long as you don't get noticed".

[Shadowknight1]

I seem to remember an episode where they state that they can't to a single thing about a natural disaster that could do significant damage to a pre-warp civilisation (stopping a natural disaster would seriously alter the natural development of the civilisation), that they could only observe. This part of a prime directive generally got ingored, so I'm glad it's been changed to "you can help, as long as you don't get noticed".

From Memory Alpha under Exceptions: "Helping a society escape a natural disaster that is unknown to the society and where the assistance can take place without the society's knowledge. (TOS: "The Paradise Syndrome")"

[Cube]

Ah, so this kind of thing has been dealt with in TOS (I've only seen a handful of episodes).

[Shadowknight1]

Also, worth noting is that Scotty says that the Enterprise had been there since the previous night, so they likely submerged the ship in the ocean in the dead of night and Chekov mentions something about the magnetic field of the planet interfering with transporters.

Also, I hope that we won't have to wait TOO long before a longer trailer as the trailer with The Hobbit was about the same length as the one released last week.  I did notice that at one point that Kirk's uniform, rather than the standard TOS command logo, had the TMP delta shield with circle around it.  This was NOT the gold uniform, so no need for pitchforks yet.

[Darkthunder]

My thoughts right now are...

Who is Peter Weller playing?
How much will Bruce Greenwood be in the movie?

I loved having "Pike" in the previous movie. But his presence was far too short I thought. Especially as a "mentor role" to Kirk.

[Shadowknight1]

We still don't know who Weller is playing.  It's been rumored that he's supposed to be a villain associated with Cumberbatch's Harrison, but I'm taking that with a grain of salt.

Pike does give a voice-over aimed at Kirk in the trailer shown before The Hobbit, and supposedly there's a cane with a Starfleet insignia on it, some of the press that saw the 9 minute preview early noticed this.

[Darkthunder]

The two details we DO know about Peter Weller...

1. He's Starfleet, and 2. He has his own ship

Being "TOS-era" that suggests he's ranked somewhere between Captain, Fleet Captain and Commodore. Commodore Decker perhaps?

[Shadowknight1]

I could EASILY see Weller as Matt Decker.

[Darkthunder]

You know, that COULD make for a rather terrifying villain in the 3rd movie... The "Doomsday Machine", remastered for todays audiences, and in the new timeline. Perhaps even find out more about that "villain", such as who created the machines and why.

[Shadowknight1]

Sadly, as much as I do not want another villain for the next movie, movies seem to demand them.  I'm already a little wary of another revenge plot...

[captain_obvious]

Doomsday machine.. that would make for one heck of a film.

[Shadowknight1]

I'll just leave this here...

[1DeadlySAMURAI]

"This video is private"

[Darkthunder]

Here's one that works.

[captain_obvious]

"This video is no longer available due to a copyright claim by paramount pictures corporation."

:grr:


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This one?  
Look ma! Lens flares!  


EDIT 2

Nope, my bad...

[Darkthunder]

Where's Peter Weller? He's the only "wild card" that has yet to be revealed...