Author Topic: KCS n Hobbs WIPs (Read 1638 times)

King Class Scout · « **on:** June 07, 2012, 07:36:02 AM »

I've been co-oping with Hobbs a lot lately. he had a little fun with my kitbashes, and re-bashed them. I think between the two of us, we could actually get an original or semi-original ship out!

Hobbs had some fun with my original kitbash, giving it a true saucer. I've done some rearanging on this myself

he created a new cove back end

anybody want a TOS Cheyenne?

kitbashed from my kitbash

now, to figure out how to UV these properly...

baz1701 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 07, 2012, 08:22:07 AM »

Like where the first one is going but not keen on the dorsal warp pylons. Also where is the impulse deck?

And one note of advice before you get bogged down in unwraping it is get the mesh smoothed out.

King Class Scout · « **Reply #2 on:** June 07, 2012, 10:31:49 AM »

the dade bash is in desperate need of smoothing, yes, but I gotta do this with Gmax, not regular max (thos, why there's no renders). I've done some further editing to the dade bash, pulling out the new section and impulse deck (where the shuttle bay would be) it looks like an old 12 sided oil filter

if you mean the TOS Cheyenne, it has my deck off the concours with new impulse grates in it.

cheyenne and Concours 2 (the bottom one) are kibashed off my Concours with added and subtracted bits.

starship · « **Reply #3 on:** June 08, 2012, 07:55:13 AM »

Interesting designs, especially the last one, which gave me ideas for a new ship.
Therefore, I think the pylons are to much "thin". I?m also unsure about the point of connection of them with the neck, for the first ship. ;)

King Class Scout · « **Reply #4 on:** June 08, 2012, 12:45:25 PM »

wow, someone besides Baz that gave an opinion!

the thickness of the pylons top to bottom or front to back?

okay with the Testor (which will be it's official name, now), they're tacked onto the neck. I did some stretching for a wrap-aroud effect. should I thicken the pylons up a bit, there?

tiqhud · « **Reply #5 on:** June 08, 2012, 01:24:53 PM »

It all looks good, yes since it is Tos, I [mo] thicken up the pylons.

starship · « **Reply #6 on:** June 08, 2012, 02:42:11 PM »

Quote from: King Class Scout on June 08, 2012, 12:45:25 PM

...the thickness of the pylons top to bottom or front to back?

okay with the Testor (which will be it's official name, now), they're tacked onto the neck. I did some stretching for a wrap-aroud effect. should I thicken the pylons up a bit, there?

For the Testor, from top to bottom. For the Cheyenne, top to bottom and front to back too. ;)
About the neck?s connection, maybe adding a ring could make it better. Just crossing by is a bit strange. ;)

King Class Scout · « **Reply #7 on:** June 08, 2012, 03:15:58 PM »

extended Testor with a temp texture set on it

front angle shot

King Class Scout · « **Reply #8 on:** June 08, 2012, 04:56:14 PM »

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these wips were never meant to be intended as an effort to split off from SFRD. I was even contemplating offering them up AS SFRD potential. I'm proud I had a hand in these and was proud to find someone that considered my kitbashes good enough to RE kitbash.

I wanted to contribute something before BC modding fades away entirely, as it's likely to do so.

I've been here three years now, I have 6 "mods" to my name, but nothing yet original, and I wanted to leave something behind

I'm sorry everything was misinterpreted.

thanks to a gigantic behind the scenes argument, I may just walk away and leave everything in more capable people's hands.

you people have been good to me, and even let me play a bit, but now I think it's my turn to move on as well, because there's no room or place for a self-taught noob around here. I've gone through this before, twice, with two other fandoms, and for the same reson. I'm tired of being called an utter noob at everything at forty, even when I've had professional training.

good luck, everybody...
from the self taught noob with the girl's name from a crappy FOX itcom that came from a trailer and no money from the backwoods of Pennsyltucky (and a damn hot boyfreind)

Adonis · « **Reply #9 on:** June 09, 2012, 01:08:16 AM »

Quote from: King Class Scout on June 08, 2012, 04:56:14 PM

I've gone through this before, twice, with two other fandoms, and for the same reson. I'm tired of being called an utter noob at everything at forty, even when I've had professional training.

...just sayin': quitting is easy, listening is hard...

baz1701 · « **Reply #10 on:** June 09, 2012, 04:15:40 AM »

Don't quit because we have left to set up on our own.

There is only one problem with your modelling skills and that is you are trying to run before you can walk. I hope I have encouraged you over the years to try things and helped you learn. I'm a self taught noob to remember just like most of us. It took me nearly 2 years to build a ship I was truely happy with. Your other problem is focus, your trying to do to many ships at once.

Try something simple to start with like a shuttle. A box with two cylinders.

As for this game in it's death throws I totally disagree.

Darkthunder · « **Reply #11 on:** June 09, 2012, 04:53:22 AM »

Totally agree with the part about trying to run before you can walk. Things don't work that way, and neither should you. My best suggestion is to keep twiddling away at your current model, improve it as best as can be, or even re-build it from scratch. You learn more from doing it over and over. You'll find that people appreciate a "quality model" over quantity.

King Class Scout · « **Reply #12 on:** June 09, 2012, 06:23:46 PM »

people will have to deal with Originals for now. and Testor was sitting around for YEARS (your still getting tweak credit, Baz)

this is where we're starting.

wish us luck

King Class Scout · « **Reply #13 on:** June 15, 2012, 10:21:33 AM »

the TOSes are on hold at the moment. Hobbs is working on one of his own ships. wether or not this would be fore SFRD remnants or his own is up to him.

however, I'm going to assume SFRD is officially dead as a doornail, and edit things appropriatly.

hobbs · « **Reply #14 on:** June 15, 2012, 03:41:07 PM »

SFRD is still going as far as i'm concerned... and my current WIP may be a SFRD haven't decided if its good enough.

just to reiterate:

SFRD still lives

KCS chat to me about the tos's whats needed etc

King Class Scout · « **Reply #15 on:** June 20, 2012, 08:32:45 PM »

now that everything's cleared up...

I took guys suggestions and tweaked. still can't get the rim too smoothed, though

moed · « **Reply #16 on:** June 20, 2012, 10:49:08 PM »

Definitely getting better!

I think the phasers are too big for the saucer though.

baz1701 · « **Reply #17 on:** June 21, 2012, 02:09:25 AM »

See if you have any unwelded verts on the saucer rim. In poly mode select all the rim verts and the hit weld. This may solve your problem.

Bones · « **Reply #18 on:** June 21, 2012, 03:00:52 AM »

Interesting design

King Class Scout · « **Reply #19 on:** June 21, 2012, 07:20:16 AM »

I was gonna add a couple more phaser points, but couldn't figure out the diameter Hobbs used (he's getting some UV and texture Practice in atm)the pylons have been widened front to back and top to bottom, as suggested earlier. I also reseated the nacelles a bit.

the pylon supports and mounts and the bridge module have been smoothed out. the tac-on torp launchers didn't look right either smoothed up (the torp ports disappear) or tapered in any, so I left those alone

the only thing I don't know what to do with is the bottom sensor dome. see below

meanwhile, Hobbs threw another one together

you can see in the top one the trouble I'm having with the bottom sensor dome. it doesn't change at all with the main smoothing, and subsurfacing murders it a little TOO much.

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Author Topic: KCS n Hobbs WIPs (Read 1638 times)