Doctor Who Series Topic Discussion - May Contain Spoilers

[Tuskin38]

At least in this new episode the Sound effects in the opening didn't drown out the music like in the first episode.

[Dalek]

Hmm, new camp Daleks.

As for the episode itself, seemed a tad rushed.

[EDD_7]

Hmm, new camp Daleks.

As for the episode itself, seemed a tad rushed.

Perhaps, did anyonw else think that they looked like they were made by Apple

the first thing that came to my head was the " iDalek shuffle "

[Dalek]

Well, the eyestalk can now turn horizontally and the eyepiece itself can apparently turn. A very sensible modification in my opinion. But that sticky out bit in the back? Is that the battery?

[limey BSc.]

If that machine thingy the proper Daleks activated contained Dalek DNA, why did the technicolour plasti-Daleks come out in armour? The only thing "Dalek" in a Dalek is the creature thingy at it's core, so if the race was reconstituted from DNA, that should be all that came out, no?

Also, eurgh.

[Dalek]

Well, the Dalek casing or armour is the only way they can survive. It would be a bit useless if it only created the Dalek creature. Maybe the "inferior" Dalek programmed in the new armour design?

[mckinneyc]

I have to admit I am loving the series as much as I did the Tenant-era! Smith certainly is shaping up to be just as good.

I love the new Daleks, they look like evil Tellytubbies. They actually remind me of Daleks from the 60s Dalek films.

What we should be asking is why doesn't Amy remember the Dalek invasion? Only time will tell. Great to see the Weeping Angels back, now they are scary and my favourite ever episode featured them. Let's just say ever since then I have never trusted statues!

I hope the Cybermen make a return and I think I saw somewhere a current picture of Captain Jack.

It is shaping up to be an excellent series and has breathed new life into an extremely entertaining and vibrant reboot of what I would call a British television institution.

Oh by the way I love the new TARDIS interior!!

[1DeadlySAMURAI]

"Whatever you do, don't blink. Blink and you're dead. Don't turn your back. Don't look away. And don't blink."

That was a scary episode. Brilliantly written. It's good to have the Angels back.

[Billz]

I love the new Daleks, they look like evil Tellytubbies. They actually remind me of Daleks from the 60s Dalek films.

The new 'Power Ranger' Daleks were not the worst version ever made, but I would've prefered to see more of those camo/khaki/green Daleks myself.

What we should be asking is why doesn't Amy remember the Dalek invasion? Only time will tell. Great to see the Weeping Angels back, now they are scary and my favourite ever episode featured them. Let's just say ever since then I have never trusted statues!

2 possibilities as to why Amy doesn't remember the Daleks.
1. This possibly isn't the prime universe which Doctor Who had took place in previous to his regeneration into his 11th body. The TARDIS could have fallen through, during the time it was flying more erractically then usual, one of the many cracks that Prisoner Zero mentioned in 'The Eleventh Hour', possibly into a universe were Earth wasn't moved to the Medusa Cascade by Davros and the Daleks in 'Journey's End/The Stolen Earth'. The various 'cracks' seen in the episodes aired from Matt Smith's series so far could be a visual metaphor to this. Would also explain why the TARDIS has landed 'late' in the new episodes aired this month.
2. One of those 4 therapists that Amy saw as a kid could have repressed her memory of the Daleks somehow. I don't know much about therapy.  

I hope the Cybermen make a return and I think I saw somewhere a current picture of Captain Jack.

If you watched the trailer at the end of 'The Eleventh Hour, then you already know that the Cybermen are returning.
I'd liked to see where you got that new Captain Jack info though.

It is shaping up to be an excellent series and has breathed new life into an extremely entertaining and vibrant reboot of what I would call a British television institution.

Technically, it's a continuation of the franchise and not a reboot.

Oh by the way I love the new TARDIS interior!!

Gonna have to disagree with you there. The coral console room from the Eccleston/Tennant series was much better.

[majormagna]

My thoughts on the new Daleks... WHY?
IMHO, if this is supposed to be pure Dalek DNA (even if it had any influence on the armour) it should look like the original Daleks, with the teeny lights on the top.

Honesly, I just wanted to see the Tennant era Daleks in the colour schemes used on the older ones... Now they just look like they've just let themselves go...


It wouldn't supprise me if theres an Apple logo hidden on them somewhere... I wonder if they can get engravings on them...

[mckinneyc]

Billz I recall seeing a picture in the paper or on the internet of an episode being shot and Cpt Jack was there but no matter how much a probe myself (mentally) or the net I can't find it.

Didn't know the Cybermen were returning as I recorded the 11th Hour and my Sky Plus box clipped the ending credits and preview off!

Major perhaps we should dub them Idaleks, wonder if the only app they have is for exterminating?

Also Billz I agree with you that the 'cracks' have something to do with it, if that is so perhaps we may see a return of Rose Tyler at some point?

[EDD_7]

Major perhaps we should dub them Idaleks, wonder if the only app they have is for exterminating?

i did that earlier

Perhaps, did anyonw else think that they looked like they were made by Apple

the first thing that came to my head was the " iDalek shuffle "

Could Amy not remembering the daleks be because the New daleks are changing history as they want no one to remember the inferior race of daleks, there for leaving cracks in time ????

[mckinneyc]

i did that earlier

Great minds think alike! I wonder how much an iDalek will cost?

[EDD_7]

i did that earlier

Great minds think alike! I wonder how much an iDalek will cost?

Well you could always manage to find the idalek 4G left in a bar lol,

[Dalek]

I'd be surprised if the Daleks were worried about their self-image in respect to their continued defeats and general history. Not to mention leaving cracks around the place is very sloppy, even for the Daleks. The Daleks at the minute should be more concerned about rebuilding their empire

I imagine that the cracks are more to do with the Pandoric that Prisoner Zero mentioned; it did say  "The cracks in the skin of the universe - don't you know where they came from? The universe is cracked. The Pandoric will open. Silence will fall.".

I don't think the cracks cross different universes though. If that were the case I'd imagine we'd have seen something parallel by now.

The fact that Amy doesn't remember the Planets in the Sky I don't think can be explained at the minute. Its only been 3 episodes and we've got very little to go on. The fact that Amy doesn't remember is much more interesting than the cracks in my opinion. I get the feeling that she will be very important to the Doctors outcome or key future events, like Donna and Wilf. I think this is just another story arc Moffat has thrown in.

As for the Doctors flying...he's never been good at it, ever since 1963.

And why are the cracks all the same shape anyway? Considering they're cracks I'd imagine there'd be some variation in there shape.

[Vanguard]

I like the new Daleks... Yes they're different, but I'm sure that fans of the old series were having similar complaints back in 2005.

As for the cracks in the universe, I think that they came from the Time War opening, although it was quickly closed, Gallifrey was pushing through back into standard space time. It also makes sense as we didn't see any cracks before The Eleventh Hour, the 'pandorical' sounds to me something akin to Pandora's Box, and going by 10's description of what was in the Time War, if it was opened the effect on the universe would be similar to the effect of Pandora's box being opened on the Earth in the myth.

As for Amy not remembering, that wouldn't be down to shrinks as The Stolen Earth happened in the two year gap between Prisoner Zero and Doc 11 taking Amy away, in fact I believe it happened shortly after 11 left Amy the second time...

I think it's something to do with the cracks personally, we all know that things tend to fall through cracks, maybe time is falling through the cracks and certain events are getting erased from history... Or maybe Doc 11 fell through one of them while the engines were "Phasing".

However, Karen Gillan has reached a new level of awesome:

Gillan confirmed that she was not a fan of the show before winning the role of Amy and explained: "My mum's a fan but I wasn't. When I was younger I watched Star Trek: Voyager but Doctor Who passed me by. My introduction was getting a part in it."

Source: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/cult/s7/doctor-who/news/a215847/gillan-promises-surprises-ahead-in-who.html

[1DeadlySAMURAI]

As for Amy not remembering, that wouldn't be down to shrinks as The Stolen Earth happened in the two year gap between Prisoner Zero and Doc 11 taking Amy away, in fact I believe it happened shortly after 11 left Amy the second time...

WUT!?
The Stolen Earth was with David Tennant AKA The Tenth Doctor. Way before he even med Amy.

[Joshmaul]

The Stolen Earth was with David Tennant AKA The Tenth Doctor. Way before he even med Amy.

The Doctor had gone back in time to at least a decade before that when he met Amy. Still, unless she was incredibly dense (or, like Donna, mind-wiped)...sky changes, sun goes away, planets, moons, Daleks - I think she would have noticed.

If she had no recollection at all, no knowledge of alien life beyond the ones she had encountered with the Doctor up to that point, that leads me to one of three conclusions. Either 1)she was hiding under her bed that whole time, which - given her...energetic personality - I rather doubt, 2)the perception filter created by Prisoner Zero did a hell of a lot better job than just hiding her unwanted houseguest, or 3)the Doctor's first encounter with Amy as a child created an alternate timeline. How that fits in with what's coming (or what's come, for you Brits) - River Song comes readily to mind - I dunno.

[Dalek]

I think we're assuming that Amy finally began travelling with the Doctor in this year (2010). So knock 14 years off and they first met in 1996. Planets in the Sky (aka The Stolen Earth) happened in 2008 (or 2009, RTD's jumping a year ahead in the first series doesn't help). Either way it would've happened between the Atraxi (or a little after) and the wedding date.

Like Josh has said, she definitely wouldn't hide under the sofa.

[EDD_7]

I think we're assuming that Amy finally began travelling with the Doctor in this year (2010). So knock 14 years off and they first met in 1996. Planets in the Sky (aka The Stolen Earth) happened in 2008 (or 2009, RTD's jumping a year ahead in the first series doesn't help). Either way it would've happened between the Atraxi (or a little after) and the wedding date.

I don't know actually because the mellinium dome was seen, fully lit up and in no way under constuction, while the Doctor was crashing and i'm sure that wasn't there in 1996, plus what year was it when he started regenerating....?