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Offline FarShot

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Modder rights infringement - Second Life?
« on: March 11, 2013, 11:51:22 PM »
This might be something you and the rest of the mods should look into. I was browsing around for some free models when I came across this link. I'm not sure if they have permission or not to use them, but I think it's worth checking out.

https://marketplace.secondlife.com/stores/112468

PM from Toa.  Looks pretty incriminating, I recognize a lot of BC modder's models in there.

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Re: Modder rights infringement - Second Life?
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2013, 12:11:20 AM »
This guy will go down.  :mad: :bitch: I too recognize a lot of these ships. Hell, I've even betaed many of them! :nono:
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Re: Modder rights infringement - Second Life?
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2013, 01:15:49 AM »
what a scumbag stealing other creators work for profit!  :banghead:

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Re: Modder rights infringement - Second Life?
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2013, 01:30:10 AM »
So clearly LC's Warbird: https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Warbird/4073848

Texturing may be alot lower quality, but I still see the resemblence from the original. Pisses me off when people take works that have been done by someone else, and pass it off as their own. And to charge money for it as well. Crash and burn!!!

EDIT: Another one I most definitely recognize: https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Sovi/4077134 (CG Sovereign)
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Re: Modder rights infringement - Second Life?
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2013, 01:53:55 AM »
DJ's Eclipse is there too, and our Kobayashi Maru, and JJ Cosntellation, an and and.. ARRGG :argh:

Worst thing is, that he is actually making real money with these.  :bitch: :facepalm:
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Re: Modder rights infringement - Second Life?
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2013, 02:47:17 AM »
I dunno. Based on what I remember of creating prims in SL, it would be far, far too difficult to make something from BC work in it.
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Re: Modder rights infringement - Second Life?
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2013, 03:55:35 AM »
They don't necessarily work as they do in the game. But the models are still there.. which means that he somehow converted them to make them appear in SL, and makes money on DJ's, Baz's etc original creations.
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Re: Modder rights infringement - Second Life?
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2013, 06:24:28 AM »
that guy should be reported and the authors of the models compensated

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Re: Modder rights infringement - Second Life?
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2013, 06:53:55 AM »
we need to write to them in person, What we all need to do is find out exactly WHO built what ship and write this all in a letter and get them to write one as well, i tried to flag the items and then i took me to another site, this is what was written, i erge every single one of us to do this and get these mesh's taken off the site even one of mine is on there and i am not happy

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Re: Modder rights infringement - Second Life?
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2013, 07:53:23 AM »
For F**K sake, I see at least 7 of my models listed there! :wtf

My JJ refit pack.
https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/JJConstellation/4125141
https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Sirius/4125159
https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/JJ-Miranda/4125191
https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/USS-Discovery/4125209
JJ Excelsior
https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/JJverse-Excelsior/4125203
Kobi Maru
https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Kobayashi-Maru-tanker/4176735
DS9.
https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/Nor/4219798

Someone bring me some tar and feathers. This has pissed me off as I'm pretty fair with my porting policy. Might need a rethink.

I don't have a second life account nor do I want one so I cannot flag this.
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Re: Modder rights infringement - Second Life?
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2013, 09:00:30 AM »
ARRGH, Bad move, seems as tho respect of moddelors has gone out the window. :hithead:
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Re: Modder rights infringement - Second Life?
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2013, 09:43:19 AM »
figures.  where is this stuff...I can always go take a look

Edit: yup, I recognise a lot of those pieces.  you think mabey they thought since they were "free" that they weren't owned?

I just hollered at the seller.  thing is, they may have to paramount/CBS nail it instead.  there's also a babylon 5 in there, so THEY might have a piece of the action, as well.
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Re: Modder rights infringement - Second Life?
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2013, 10:38:44 AM »
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Re: Modder rights infringement - Second Life?
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2013, 10:44:23 AM »
If you have a mail address for non memebers let me know. I have a few choice words to write to them.
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Re: Modder rights infringement - Second Life?
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2013, 11:45:09 AM »
If you have a mail address for non memebers let me know. I have a few choice words to write to them.

read my big post there baz it has the post address there, as u can't flag it, u have to mail them

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Re: Modder rights infringement - Second Life?
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2013, 12:09:15 PM »
My reworked model/retexture of P81's Steamrunner class....

They do have a facebook page...maybe someone can flag it there :)
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Re: Modder rights infringement - Second Life?
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2013, 12:32:58 PM »
Jesus this has to be one of the biggest infringements I have ever seen. It's like the guy saw Bridge commander files and went all out. I hope this guy gets what's coming to him.   

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Re: Modder rights infringement - Second Life?
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2013, 12:48:29 PM »
My Excelsior Family Pack, Gabe Koerner Enterprise, and Phase II Enterprise are among the ones stolen.
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Re: Modder rights infringement - Second Life?
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2013, 01:47:42 PM »
well, i've contacted him personally now, here lookie :D


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Re: Modder rights infringement - Second Life?
« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2013, 02:18:08 PM »
if this clears up...wanna hang out?  I finally got started in there after idling for 5 years 'cause of my crappy graphics card...and I'm utterly bored!
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