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Recreational Forums => Art Forum => Topic started by: Vortex on February 26, 2014, 11:42:49 AM
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Anyone who follows my WIP thread in the modding section may have noticed that it's been a little quiet. (Uhm, again.) Well, you can all blame Killa. :p
His Tyson model inspired me to make a ship that was a sort of stepping stone between then Galaxy and the Sovereign, possibly a test-bed for the Sovereign class tech. I started a couple of weeks ago and it developed into it's own thing, which I'm rather liking a lot at the minute. I'm thinking of pushing this further along in the timeline to be a mid 25th Century vessel.
This isn't a BC project, it's a high poly ship.
The build thread is here, for any who want to follow: http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/showthread.php?80878-Evenstar-Class-Blender&p=584847#post584847
I'll be updating this thread here every now and then as well.
And with that, here's what she looks like so far:
(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/057/b/2/evenstar_class_16_by_vortex5972-d782w3w.jpg)
(http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/057/e/2/evenstar_class_17_by_vortex5972-d782w45.jpg)
(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/057/e/f/evenstar_class_18_by_vortex5972-d782w4e.jpg)
(http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/057/8/9/evenstar_class_19_by_vortex5972-d782w4l.jpg)
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Nice design, If its supposed to be a sovereign class tech testbed, then you may want to have the Nacelle grilles more like the sovereigns than the galaxy's.
I really like this and I want to see where you go with this. :D
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Looking forward to seeing more.
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Very cool! Can't wait to see more of her :)
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Thanks guys. :D
Flare, I'm thinking of trying to combine the two. It's a little difficult to figure out a look that hasn't become a little bit cliche. :p I've decided now that the commission date for this class will be somewhere around the 2450/60's.
Some technical specs: She's 750 meters long and 26 decks tall.
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:eek
are you dj curtis?
awesome work :bow: :bow:
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are you dj curtis?
Uh oh, busted! :p
No, I'm not, but thankyou. :)
I gave myself yesterday off as I was pretty shattered. Missed the Northern Light display that I didn't know was happening. Really annoying as I almost went out with my camera to shoot some stars yesterday. If only I'd have known. xD
I decided that the underside needed a little bit of attention, so I've moved to the bottom of the saucer and started to figure out the deflector. Not sure whether I want to go Galaxy-esque with it or TMP/Grandeur.
Here's what I have so far:
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/059/0/0/evenstar_class_20_by_vortex5972-d78c4eo.jpg)
(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/059/a/f/evenstar_class_21_by_vortex5972-d78c4f6.jpg)
(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/059/8/3/evenstar_class_22_by_vortex5972-d78c53r.jpg)
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ooooh sexy :thumbsup: I love this ship already :)
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Looking real nice I like the defelector as is, in the shap it has now ,but with a galaxy/voyager style Imo ;). the bussards gotto go there to pointy they need a late tng feel to them maybe a Akira bussard style as that ship was late tng. Keep up the good work though :thumbsup:
(http://www.ufstarfleet.org/wiki/images/a/ae/Alliclass.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-aYsvFYqnsOc/ThIfcVJycoI/AAAAAAAADig/Xi9N--jpuIQ/s1600/allegiance_class.jpg)(http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130419105607/memoryalpha/en/images/5/5b/Akira_class_Digital_Muse_CGI_model.jpg)
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:eek
are you dj curtis?
awesome work :bow: :bow:
Nah, he cant be DJ, this ship doesn't have a double deflector!!!
Nice work man, Looks great, but I agree on some different bussards.
oh, and 2450s? like 70 years after Nemesis or did you mean 2350s?
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Thanks for the comments. :D
The bussards are place holders. The reason that they're so pointy is that they come down to a single vertex at the front.
Maverick, I'd forgotten all about that ship in the second picture.
Deadthunder, I meant 2450's, maybe a little earlier. That region of Trek is still pretty much unexplored.
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This is a really cool design. I like it a lot!
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Thanks for the comments. :D
The bussards are place holders. The reason that they're so pointy is that they come down to a single vertex at the front.
Maverick, I'd forgotten all about that ship in the second picture.
Deadthunder, I meant 2450's, maybe a little earlier. That region of Trek is still pretty much unexplored.
Ok, I just reread your post. Makes sense now! :hithead:
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Well, it's been a while. I haven't touched this model for a couple of months, I've been a little busy on other things, but it's been updated since you last saw it. With the site being down, I wasn't able to post it here.
http://vortex5972.deviantart.com/art/Evenstar-Class-49-447519343?q=gallery%3AVortex5972%2F47107226&qo=24
http://vortex5972.deviantart.com/art/Evenstar-Class-48-446841522?q=gallery%3AVortex5972%2F47107226&qo=27
http://vortex5972.deviantart.com/art/Evenstar-Class-46-446841484?q=gallery%3AVortex5972%2F47107226&qo=29
http://vortex5972.deviantart.com/art/Evenstar-Class-47-446841495?q=gallery%3AVortex5972%2F47107226&qo=28
I've also started to build a small sister ship for her, the Ranger Class.
http://vortex5972.deviantart.com/art/Ranger-WIP-07-449373941?q=gallery%3AVortex5972%2F47107226&qo=10
http://vortex5972.deviantart.com/art/Ranger-WIP-12-450711036?q=gallery%3AVortex5972%2F47107226&qo=1
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this little sister "ranger" class I've taken a liking to. the nacelles look like they'd work on an Oberth class replacement.
thing is, car puns immediatly popped into my head because of the name. USS Courier, USS Mazda B, USS Sierra, USS Bronco, USS Blazer, USS Explorer, USS Tiguan...the puns are just FLYING in my head.
for some reason, what also pops up is names of the class also coming from Native American Nations.
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The names come from Lord of the Rings. ;)
The Ranger is roughly the size of the Nova. It's a fairly small ship.
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oy...the USS Bilbo! or should that be the baggins...I could see the USS Gamgee...I bet the Tolkein estate would raise all holy hell, though.
the nacelles look like they were built by ford. knowing the STU, some people would consider that legit...after all Chrysler was a contractor for Starfleet, according to some people
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I agree. The Ranger little sister ship is really nice. Love the nacelles. The shape reminds me of the Legacy ship. What's her name, I forgot.
Adam
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USS Gamgee sounds good, however, I'm aware of how anal the estate can be, so I'll keep clear of using character names.
Where the hell do they get Chrysler from?
Adam, are you thinking of the Strider?
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the ship looks sexy, tho the bridge dome looks slightly out of place, the shape does not match the rest of the ship, it's too flat on the top, looks like there is not much room for turbolifts or ready room etc.
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Yup. The Strider, that's it. The shape and the size of the nacelles and how their positioned somehow reminds of it.
Adam
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the ship looks sexy, tho the bridge dome looks slightly out of place, the shape does not match the rest of the ship, it's too flat on the top, looks like there is not much room for turbolifts or ready room etc.
Thanks. :D
Which ship? Evenstar currently only has a stand in bridge module. Ranger still needs the lift shaft added on.
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one of the old info books written in the ninties they have scanned over at cygnus X-1 lists Chrysler, specifically Daimler-Chrysler (!!) as a build contractor for some ships. also just found a lol in one of the Galaxy II contractors...one of them had their fire controll system built by RCA records!
it's going to be hell trying to find a tolkeinish name that ISN'T copyrighted, I'm betting.
nxadam: Hope you picked up the Strider, Phoenix worked hard on that.
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I definitely did lol
It's awesome. I really like it bc it shows off the Oberth nacelles, something about the Lost Era intrigues me.
But back to these beautiful ships, I'm really digging the sister ship, the warp nacelles are really nice.
The saucer shape is perfect. Very well done, the shapes were perfectly combined, nothing looks out of place.
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I think that my ships may have been built by Aston Martin, then. :p
Yeah, the names would be tough. "Evenstar" is a bit like "Skywalker", though. Just two words slapped together, so shouldn't be a problem. "Ranger" isn't a copy write, so that should be fine as well.
Adam, about the only thing that I like about the Oberth is the nacelles, one of the reasons I love the Strider. It's one cool little ship. Thanks for the kind words. :D
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actually, "Ranger" IS copyrighted...by Ford since the mid sixties. it was a package on US Ford pickups, then was Transferred to a miniature pickup in 1983. the nameplate was retired in 11, but we all know Ford.
the books generally used existing shipyards along with the canon ones. I think they pulled familliar business names for people to recognise, but for Pete's sake, having A Galaxy contract carried by Boeing-Mitsubishi is just a little bit weird.
can't wait to see where these two go.
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actually, "Ranger" IS copyrighted...by Ford since the mid sixties. it was a package on US Ford pickups, then was Transferred to a miniature pickup in 1983. the nameplate was retired in 11, but we all know Ford.
Well... bollocks.
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Awesome ships.love the ranger. Its angledness appeals to me great work .
Also surely "Ranger" can't be copyright as it's a word in the English languag. That would be like copy righting "Salt"
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Awesome ships.love the ranger. Its angledness appeals to me great work .
Also surely "Ranger" can't be copyright as it's a word in the English languag. That would be like copy righting "Salt"
Doesn't stop Microsoft from holding the copyright on Windows :P
I say, use whatever name you want.
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Doesn't stop Microsoft from holding the copyright on Windows :P
I say, use whatever name you want.
Agreed lol its only in breach if it's the same thing I'd guess.
A PC operating systen can't be called windows and a car can't be called ranger but we are talking starships so I'd say its fine
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I agree, I think context is more the key.
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I finally re-opened the file and did a little work on this puppy just before Christmas. Almost entirely rebuild the shuttlebay and command superstructure. The impulse crystal had some work done and I've fixed the cut out at the bottom of the secondary hull so that it looks smoother.
(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/339/f/e/evenstar_class_52_by_vortex5972-d88rt2r.jpg)
(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/339/c/3/evenstar_class_53_by_vortex5972-d88rt31.jpg)
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/339/6/2/evenstar_class_54_by_vortex5972-d88rupy.jpg)
(http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/340/c/9/evenstar_class_55_by_vortex5972-d88wlza.jpg)
(http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/340/a/b/evenstar_class_56_by_vortex5972-d88wlzk.jpg)
(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2014/340/1/d/evenstar_class_57_by_vortex5972-d88wlzz.jpg)
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Impressive work. Any idea for what era you intend to texture it as? I'd say either pre/early-TNG.
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Thankyou. :) She'll be the Ent-F launched in 2440. Just a little bit bigger than the Sovereign. The idea is that Starfleet design has moved back to more organic, flowing shapes as there hasn't been any major conflict since the Dom War. This'll be the first big push back into exploring the final frontier.
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awesome work!!
id go ENT-H lol that way it will fit in after DJCurtis' ships.... however its yours so name it what you want lol
as i say gorgeous.... i want to do organic shape like that!
cookie (if it works)(it does!)
great to see another one still modelling :)
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Hobbs - There are so many Ent-Fs that one more of his own make isn't an issue.
If you're going to put it so far downstream as 2440, I'd put some serious consideration into rethinking some of the technology on the vessel, reinventing the wheel so to speak.
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Thanks guys. All I've got planned spec wise at the minute is that she'll most likely carry quantum torpedoes and Photon's will be either phased out or no longer standard. She'll also be the first class to carry a Warp 13 drive.
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How about 'Transphasic Torpedoes' ? (appearance-wise, not necessarily 1-shot kill) :P
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I think they'll end up being the replacement for Quantum torps. Transphasics were way to powerful in Voyager, though I think the idea for them came from an early First Contact scripts, where an Armada of Borg ships were invading.
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do you have a concept for the warp 13 drive?
i keep looking at your ship and it looks soooo nice.
inspiring!
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Nah, transphasic torps are only OP because they were early in time. The Borg can't adapt to what by all rights shouldn't be there. Don't forget that photon torpedoes are equivalent to variable yield nuclear warheads, extremely deadly if you don't have shields. Transphasic torpedoes probably did so much damage to those cubes because they hadn't anticipated them and probably wouldn't know how to set up their shields to negate their damage. We see how effective an unfamiliar weapon is to the Borg the very first time they appear in TNG. The D's phasers blast massive chunks off of the cube. But in every subsequent encounter, phasers do hardly anything, likely because of Borg adaptation.
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Also, the Borg were shown adapting to Voyager's "future tech", which would've been some 70+ years before this "Evenstar Class" was made.
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The concept for the warp 13 drive is that this ship can go to warp 13. :p Not really sure what you're asking there, Hobbs.
I have no idea how to tackle the Endgame problem. The problem with using cheap and lazy time travel to resolve the end of a series because it wasn't planned out properly. Honestly, I think it would have been better to have Q just show up and go "Here, have a lift home." I hate the look of that ablative armour, so that's a definite no.
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It's never stated that ablative armor has to be replicated in order to work. I would consider simply integrating it into the existing design's armor paneling. It might seem nitpicking now, but you're early enough in the process that you have time to give the ship a writing pass and continuity keeping pass in addition to several art passes. Trek's two greatest Enterprises, the TMP refit and the Galaxy class, were heavily refined in all creative aspects until they fit a logically evolved art style from previous iterations, advanced technology extrapolated and innovated out of the old, and also fit the storytellers' bills.
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It's never stated that ablative armor has to be replicated in order to work. I would consider simply integrating it into the existing design's armor paneling. It might seem nitpicking now, but you're early enough in the process that you have time to give the ship a writing pass and continuity keeping pass in addition to several art passes. Trek's two greatest Enterprises, the TMP refit and the Galaxy class, were heavily refined in all creative aspects until they fit a logically evolved art style from previous iterations, advanced technology extrapolated and innovated out of the old, and also fit the storytellers' bills.
I know its not real but:
There would be warp 13 only if the scale was changed.
warp 10 is infinite speed. So I wondered what your theory was.
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Ablative Armour could probably be worked into the hull alloys somehow, similar to 22nd century hull plating. We know that the Defiant had ablative armour, even though it looked like a normal hull. Trek ships ended up getting encumbered with too much detail by the end of the 24th Century. I want to return it more to it's roots a bit. Less battleship and more explorer. At least in how it looks.
Warp 10 isn't infinite speed. It was broken plenty of times in TNG. In fact, with help from the traveler, the Ent-D past warp ten and went off the scale. I would imagine that a tighter, more compressed warp bubble would allow for greater speeds.
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Also, Warp 10 "is infinite" was only mentioned in ONE episode (never before, and never after), and it was probably the worst episode of the entire series. As you said, TNG broke the speed barrier many times, including the series finale (where it seemed to be "normal" to travel at Warp 13).
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I would assume that with all the ships going warp 9.975 and such towards the latter end of the twenty fourth century, someone got tired of having to say so many points past the decimal and said "Screw it, this scale's too constricted. We're now going warp fifteen. Twenty is the new cap."
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thats what i thought.
if i mention the voy episodes that have other warp style travel will i be slated lol
i think there was one where there was mention of possible different layers of subspace and different speeds within those layers.
i may have made that up though lol. (my transwarp theory is based on that idea... my transwarp is 9.8 times faster ie: transwarp 1=warp 9.8 transwarp 2 = warp 19.6 etc...)
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Cool ship! I really like the nacelles.