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Recreational Forums => Trek Discussion => Ships & Tech Talk => Topic started by: Psyco Diver on March 25, 2010, 01:51:48 PM
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I recent post got me thinking about Voyager and it being a small ship, but being stuck in the Delta. While I think its likely they could survive being the ship being very adavanced, small, fast, I doubt the parts about it being small, not alot of room for growth and what not. So what ship would you prefer to be in if you were taken to the Delta?
Personally I think I would take the Galaxy or the Prometheus (sp?). I'm saying the Galaxy because it was designed for long distance travel, its big so it can hold a huge crew, and has the resources to provide a "new" crew since realistically it would take 75 years to get back. Another thing to go with its size is it can hold ALOT more supplies than a Interpid class. I think its main issue is its size, it takes a big crew to man that ship and its harder to hide than a Interpid class
I choose the Prometheus, not for its combat ability but for its ability to be able to run with just 4 crew members, that can be handy in a bad situation. Its long range speed is another advantage and its ability to seperate into 3 warp capable ships adds to its survivability.
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yeah, but the Prometheus is far too small, smaller than the Intrepid, I don't think it would have had the supplies for such a long journey. My vote would be the Galaxy.
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Lol dude and you would be doomed in Galaxy class :thumbsup: it's not importanat that it can run 9.75 warp MAX, it's CRUISING speed that counts and Galaxy class cruising speed is about 7 warps... so if Voyager could cruise at speed of warp 9.7-9.9 and reach Federation in 75 years then Galaxy would get there in about 120, by this time, much older and far less advanced Galaxy's design would be gone ;) Such slow/huge/quite adv. ship would be tempting throphy for any agressive/hunter species. the only pro of Galaxy is it's resources (replicators, endless power reserves, powerfull weapons) yet there's too much cons on this one ;)
Prometheus, hm this could actually get home safely due to it's superior firepower (3 ships in one), optimal cruising speed and it's automation.
I highly doubt any ship could survive 75 years journey, after 50 years of no maintenance or refit but countles skirmishes, battles the hull would in really bad condition as well as warp/impulse drive etc.
well my choice would be either Intrepid or Prometheus, they are fast and maneuverable, quite low profile due to their size and well armed/armored.
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yeah, but the Prometheus is far too small, smaller than the Intrepid, I don't think it would have had the supplies for such a long journey. My vote would be the Galaxy.
Prometheus: 415 meters
Intrepid: 343 meters
I would rather have seen a ship like the Excelsior or Ambassador Class make the long haul journey from the far side of the galaxy. Both are big enough, and more than capable of handling their own. Provided ofcourse, that both ships are brought upto 2370+ standards in terms of weaponry and defensive capabilities.
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Hmmm.. If I'll get stranded, I want to do it with style, and there's nothing more stylish and epic than Constellation class that served in Dominion war and survived. U.S.S. Victory if my memory serves me correctly.
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I just researched the victory lionus.... cool!!! i'm going to see if i can find her on ff :dance
I would use the Uss Corinium-A, it would have all the facilities needed for a LONG duration return to federation space.
or if this is aimed at on-screen ships.... i would pick a Cheyenne Class because its cool :P :D
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I'd have to pick my Nebula class :P
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Lol dude and you would be doomed in Galaxy class :thumbsup: it's not importanat that it can run 9.75 warp MAX, it's CRUISING speed that counts and Galaxy class cruising speed is about 7 warps... so if Voyager could cruise at speed of warp 9.7-9.9 and reach Federation in 75 years then Galaxy would get there in about 120, by this time, much older and far less advanced Galaxy's design would be gone ;) Such slow/huge/quite adv. ship would be tempting throphy for any agressive/hunter species. the only pro of Galaxy is it's resources (replicators, endless power reserves, powerfull weapons) yet there's too much cons on this one ;)
Prometheus, hm this could actually get home safely due to it's superior firepower (3 ships in one), optimal cruising speed and it's automation.
I highly doubt any ship could survive 75 years journey, after 50 years of no maintenance or refit but countles skirmishes, battles the hull would in really bad condition as well as warp/impulse drive etc.
well my choice would be either Intrepid or Prometheus, they are fast and maneuverable, quite low profile due to their size and well armed/armored.
I thought the Galaxy could cruise at warp 9 for 12 hours and warp 8 till it runs out of juice, and the Intrepid could do about the same.. I think the Galaxy has tghe advantage cause it could remake most parts damaged, and also exchange stuff with other species for new tech and hard to replace stuff just like voyager did. Comparing to everything Voyager went up against I think the Galaxy could handle it self
A Soveriegn class would be nice, since it fits inbewteen the Intrepid and Galaxy size wise
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I'd have to pick my Nebula class :P
Weapons pod or sensor pod? I would take the sensor pod, at least then you could see the enemy coming before they saw you
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A Soveriegn class would be nice, since it fits inbewteen the Intrepid and Galaxy size wise
The Galaxy is bigger only in width. Length-wise the Sovie is about 100 metres longer.
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I would want a Cloaking Ship [klingon neghvar]
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A Soveriegn class would be nice, since it fits inbewteen the Intrepid and Galaxy size wise
The Galaxy is bigger only in width. Length-wise the Sovie is about 100 metres longer.
and taller and can hold more people and larger cargo bays. The Sovys problem is its gears torward war with diplomacy as a backfall, while the Galaxy is the oppisite, its diplomatic first or rains down the kickass
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Although larger ships would be good in theory, wouldn't they be far more difficult to maintain depending on crew size?
If you had a larger ship with a full crew you'd need to fight every day for more supplies, which would equal larger power consumption.
If you had a larger ship with a minimal crew, there wouldn't be enough to maintain all ships systems at peak efficiency!
I think the Intrepid class was a good choice, big enough to defend themselves but small enough to avoid enemy vessels.
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Defiant class, small, stealthy, and powerful.
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Although larger ships would be good in theory, wouldn't they be far more difficult to maintain depending on crew size?
If you had a larger ship with a full crew you'd need to fight every day for more supplies, which would equal larger power consumption.
If you had a larger ship with a minimal crew, there wouldn't be enough to maintain all ships systems at peak efficiency!
I think the Intrepid class was a good choice, big enough to defend themselves but small enough to avoid enemy vessels.
precisely ;)
Galaxy can maintain 9.2 for 12 hours YES then it slowes down to 6-7-8 that varies depending on how much power reserves it has but then Intrepid can go 9.75 until it's dry, without any stop thatnk's to unique geometry ;)
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as I recall the 75 years was factoring in an average speed of warp 6, not even voyager could sustain 9.75 for that long, and remember Voyager didn't have the consumables to maintain those kinds of speeds, it could run non stop until it's dry alright, but it would run dry alot sooner, as I recall, it was running out of power already by the middle of the first season ("There's coffee in that nebula"). The Galaxy has a much longer range, even if it couldn't sustain the same speeds, plus, it already has the facilities needed to grow food for the crew in the Arboretum if they did have to ration energy, no need to convert a cargobay into an aeroponic garden.
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USS Monitor with transwarp :bow:
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as I recall the 75 years was factoring in an average speed of warp 6, not even voyager could sustain 9.75 for that long, and remember Voyager didn't have the consumables to maintain those kinds of speeds, it could run non stop until it's dry alright, but it would run dry alot sooner, as I recall, it was running out of power already by the middle of the first season ("There's coffee in that nebula"). The Galaxy has a much longer range, even if it couldn't sustain the same speeds, plus, it already has the facilities needed to grow food for the crew in the Arboretum if they did have to ration energy, no need to convert a cargobay into an aeroponic garden.
Didn't they run out of 'coffee' just because they travelked with top speed ? anyway I remember clearly Janeway told the crew that even when traveling with maximum warp they'll reach Federation in 75 years right ? on the other hand you're right about the range of both ships, explorers are meant to cruise with optimal speeds for veeeery long runs while Intrepid is kind of deep space interceptor.
oh and about that range, did I miss anything during first 3 seasons or Voyager seemed to have no problems at all with power drops/shortage after mid 4th season :lostit:
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that's just because the writers pretty much forgot about it :facepalm:
although I think they did have a couple episodes where that happened later on, like the one where they landed on the Demon class planet.
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that's just because the writers pretty much forgot about it :facepalm:
although I think they did have a couple episodes where that happened later on, like the one where they landed on the Demon class planet.
too bad I say, because it would add certain ammount of realism, drama and that special feeling of being stranded in the middle of nowhere (BSG ruled in this part ;) )
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I would go with a Sovvy. One may reasonably assume she is well endowed, chosen to come after the Galaxy.
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that's just because the writers pretty much forgot about it :facepalm:
although I think they did have a couple episodes where that happened later on, like the one where they landed on the Demon class planet.
too bad I say, because it would add certain ammount of realism, drama and that special feeling of being stranded in the middle of nowhere (BSG ruled in this part ;) )
I still remember Mike Okuda and Rick Sternbach promising us exactly that in all the early press releases before it premiered, and look what we got :dontcare:
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Voyager had it's potential but they kinda wasted it towards the end of the show, they could've made it more complex and less episodic... but I believe this is all :ot: so I'm gonna stop hijacking this thread ;) maybe we should make Voyager bashing thred ;)
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Ok so getting back on topic -
I personally would take a Sovereign to the Delta Quadrant, however a lot of ships would do pretty well there. Akira, Galaxy, Nebula, and Sovereign would all probably be fine out there. Akira's are larger than an Intrepid and presumably could accommodate a crew for such a long trip, the same goes for Galaxy's and Nebula's. The Sovereign is basically an overgrown (and much heavily armed) Intrepid, it's state of the art, and is big enough to accommodate the crew for the long trip.
The Defiant and Prometheus would have a harder time I think. The Defiant is simply way to small and not designed to operate independently for long periods of time. It was designed to fight Borg, not go play in the deep end of the galaxy without a wormhole. The Prometheus may be a hair bigger than an Intrepid, but it was made out to be an overgrown Defiant. I'm not saying it wouldn't survive, but the crew would need to make some pretty serious modifications to make the ship livable for 70+ years, and that could consume resources at a faster rate than normal.
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I'd rather take an Intrepid-Class or Prometheus.
The Intrepid has a smaller crew (slower consumption of resources as previously stated,) she's more modular for Klingon-style hull conformal cloaking devices / holographic masking devices. VTOL capability. Greatly reduced tactical profile & nicely sufficient scientific sensor + probe deployment capability.
The Intrepid-Class isn't especially well-armed but she's agile/maneuverable as a scared rabbit, especially now that we're aware of its ability to withstand VERY SHORT burps/hops of Q.S.S.
There's also the Intrepid's Aerowing and general ability of Federation ships to repair/manufacture spare auxiliary craft as needed, (when raw materiel is available to refine + deploy necessary components.) The Intrepid's modest diplomatic grade & the fact the Intrepid doesn't leave the "we come in peace, shoot to kill" first impression.
The Sovereign is good for staying close to home as she has size on her side, slightly greater range, equal or slightly better armor/sensors, and weapons stores, but that also makes her more vulnerable. She can't easily hide in asteroid crevices, she can't wiggle/dodge & fly through debris like a Defiant, & she may have saucer separation but (once its separated) the saucer's not warp capable.
So the Prometheus has weapons & speed upon separation, so I'd use her as the Intrepid's "big brother" (to escort container ships supporting the Intrepid on a three year mission & to tow them both out of a fray, when necessary.)
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Like i said, the USS Monitor with a skeleton crew, and transwarp drive, get home fast, stay there for abit or fight the borg!
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I would take the Niagara class, one it's different, two it's about the same size as the Nebula class and lastly it's a cool design which would make for some interesting story telling.
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May sound weird, but I'd choose the Galaxy X, if it's an option
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The idea I had with a tri-nacelle design was that the third nacelle and pylon and other related components could be dismantled and bingo, loads of critical spare parts without having to manufacture them.
I recall Voyager had to rebuild her warp coils in one episode in the first or second season which required mining and obtaining the raw materials first then the manufacture of them I suppose. A lot of energy and resources and time wasted.
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New Orleans class here :)
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Dunno if New Orleans or Niagara could handle themselves in such a hostile environment like Delta quadrant, New Orleans isn't too versatile design also it doesn't posses any remarkable technology not to mention old Niagara which is kinda like Ambassador class.
while the idea of dismantling third nacelle for spare parts is quite good, you would be better off with third nacelle when it comes to Galaxy X which could achieve about warp 13 IIRC from what Riker said to Picard in AGT, now with such speed, whole journey would be 30% shorter :)
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New Orleans is a Battle frigate, and the torp pods could be replaced by sensor pods, or impulse engines, torps were the best choice to use against the Borg at Wolf 359
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Only because they(Borg) didn't have Point Defense for plot reasons.
I'd go with The Kirk Killer, tbh. Classy design, tried and true, and if it could survive that bloody wave thing from Generations, I think it'd handle a number of things Voyager did, with or without the Intrepids magical deflector array. This is assuming it's a lakota refit, which is almsot double as classy.
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Another one I would consider, what if the Caretaker took someone from the TOS/TMP era, what would be the choice then? I love the connie refit for it, it just seems the ship was made for something like it, even though its specs say other wise
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Excelsior would probably be the best from the TMP era.
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Excelsior would probably be the best from the TMP era.
QFT ...although Constitution refit was meant to perform long deep space explorations so she might also handle herself (definately YES if capn' Kirk and TOS-TMP crew would be on the bridge :P )
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I'd go with something like this - the Diligent class:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v120/joshmaul-001/Diligent_A2M.jpg)
It's small, it's fairly manueverable (not as much as a Defiant, but still), and it has much roomier interiors - and it can hold its own in a fight. *grin*
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For TOS/TMP, that's a tricky question, because we know so few classes from that era. I would have to say the Constitution Refit/Enterprise subclass, or maybe the Belknap class if we included fanon designs. They are much simpler and more proven designs than the then experimental Excelsior class, and much smaller and more maneuverable then the larger DN types like the Federation/Star Union or the Ascension class. Smaller designs like the Miranda class frigate or the Akyazi Class Perimeter Action Ships wouldn't work very well either because they aren't designed for long endurance missions, nor would the Oberth because it was too lightly armed. Constellation might work because of the redundant warp drive system and the extra armaments, but as Picard described, Stargazer was an "overworked, underpowered vessel that was always on the verge of flying apart at the seams." While that could have been from her age, it doesn't sound like the vessel would be a good choice for a long term mission so far from a starbase.
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TMP wise the Connie and the Excelsior would be the best way to go, both multi mission designs and both designed to operate in the great unknown.
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yeah, but how would you overcome the tiny genepool that is available for procreation? I'd say that larger ship with larger crew is better option..
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In the TMP era they all have fairly medium size crews, 200-600 people.
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in addition to crew problems in TMP I might add that they would have much bigger problem on their heads ;) Voyager had plenties of high tech like replicators, holodecks, extra modern toilets etc. etc. and after bigger fights they could quickly replace damaged parts. Now in TMP they only seem to have modern toilets so I don't see any way to replicte, replace more than half of the damaged ship, then what ? BSG starts with it's 'falling apart ship' plot ;)
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Well, I just said the Excelsior would have the best chance, I didn't say it'd succeed ;)
Any of those TMP ships stuck out their, honestly their crews would probably need to settle eventually. No replicators for food/parts for the Excelsior, Constitution, and Miranda, and I seriously doubt a Oberth would last long out there (hell it got blown out of the sky from a single shot from a Klingon Bird of Prey).
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Constitution stands a better chance at growing food because of the arboretum deck, Excelsiors probably would have something like that too, but Mirandas certainly wouldn't. When it comes to spare parts, the Constitutions would stand a better chance then the Excelsiors because they are more simply built.
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yeah and as we seen in ST3, they patched old lady with bare plates (partially) arboretum can be easyli transformed to huge hydroponics garden to grow as much food as possible.
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Well even with the arboretum aside, a TMP era ship (still in the TMP era mind you) would be using the old TOS warp scale. Remember that warp 9 on that scale is equivalent to about warp 7 on the TNG scale, so it would take those ships considerably longer to cross the distance back to the Alpha Quadrant, definitely well over a century (vs. 70 years for a TNG era ship capable of warp 9+)
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grumble...speed chats...grumble
TNG Chart
Earth to alpha centuri
Speed
Warp Speed(*c) Time
.5 0.099 43.64 years
1 1 4.33 years
2 10.08 156.91 days
3 38.94 40.61 days
4 101.59 15.57 days
5 213.75 7.4 days
6 392.5 4.03 days
7 656.14 2.41 days
8 1024 37.07 hours
9 1516.38 25.03 hours
10 ? 0
TOS chart
Earth to alpha centuri
Speed
Warp Speed(*c) Time
.5 0.125 34.64 years
1 1 4.33 years
2 8 197.69 days
3 27 58.57 days
4 64 24.71 days
5 125 12.65 days
6 216 7.32 days
7 343 4.61 days
8 512 3.09 days
9 729 52.07 hours
10 1000 37.96 hours
11 1331 28.52 hours
JJ Chart
(to vulcan-18 lightyears
Warp 8- 3 min (very fast)
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JJ Chart
(to vulcan-18 lightyears
Warp 8- 3 min (very fast)
Alternative Universe #1, I was under the impression we were talking about the prime universe. Also the movie never gave a specific maximum warp (the website isn't canon) and it never specified how long the ship had been at warp, for all we know Sulu was just giving a general status report to Pike after a 4 day trip :)
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Well even with the arboretum aside, a TMP era ship (still in the TMP era mind you) would be using the old TOS warp scale. Remember that warp 9 on that scale is equivalent to about warp 7 on the TNG scale, so it would take those ships considerably longer to cross the distance back to the Alpha Quadrant, definitely well over a century (vs. 70 years for a TNG era ship capable of warp 9+)
Not to mention optimal speed for Constitution is warp 5-6 and max speed is around 8 ;) even if it would survive it would become a generations ship.
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Not to mention optimal speed for Constitution is warp 5-6 and max speed is around 8 ;) even if it would survive it would become a generations ship.
I'd love to see a TMP era try to make it through Borg space. If they were to TRY to make it back to the Alpha Quadrant, it might be best for them to try to head for the Gamma Quadrant and take the wormhole back, that way they can (presumably) avoid Borg space all together. Of course they still run the risk of running into the Dominion. Of course they'd have to know about the wormhole in the first place...
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Only problem with a TMP-era ship trying to get to the Gamma Quadrant and use the wormhole... is that Starfleet didn't find the wormhole until well into TNG-era.
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are we all forgetting this ship
(http://screenshots.filesnetwork.com/8/files2/112195_6t.jpg)
or this
(http://screenshots.filesnetwork.com/8/files2/112183_1t.jpg)
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Only problem with a TMP-era ship trying to get to the Gamma Quadrant and use the wormhole... is that Starfleet didn't find the wormhole until well into TNG-era.
I hate to quote myself but:
Of course they'd have to know about the wormhole in the first place...
:P
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Not to mention that's the long way, at least a good 140,000 light years instead of 70,000, then again, by the time they find it, Starfleet would have found the alpha quadrant end, thereby increasing their chances of rescue.
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question, how come it only took a few hours in ST5 to get to the center of the galaxy?
If so it will be about twice the time it took the A to get to the Great Barriar
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question, how come it only took a few hours in ST5 to get to the center of the galaxy?
If so it will be about twice the time it took the A to get to the Great Barriar
This was the same movie that had the Enterprise having over 80 decks. That movie was so full of errors and mistakes, it's not even funny. Add to that, being considered among the weakest/worst of the 11 Star Trek movies to date.
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ok, just asking about speed, never said it was good
oh yeah, neb, the galaxy is only 100,000 lightyears across
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This was the same movie that had the Enterprise having over 80 decks. That movie was so full of errors and mistakes, it's not even funny. Add to that, being considered among the weakest/worst of the 11 Star Trek movies to date.
QFT. I don't even consider Star Trek V to be canon for those very same reasons.
Not to mention that's the long way, at least a good 140,000 light years instead of 70,000, then again, by the time they find it, Starfleet would have found the alpha quadrant end, thereby increasing their chances of rescue.
Umm...no lol. From what I've always seen on maps the distance between Voyager and the wormhole always looked the same as the distance to the Alpha Quadrant. I've always rationalized Janeway not heading for the Gamma Quadrant by assuming:
1. It's the same distance to the wormhole as the straight shot home, so there is no point in going to the wormhole.
2. Voyager was lost very soon after the Odyssey was destroyed by the Dominion, and Starfleet was still trying to figure out the threat they possessed. Janeway didn't want to risk encountering them 70 years later in what-would-be an obsolete ship.
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from the various sources I've read over the years, she was trying to go the other way, through the beta quadrent, and since that's friendly territory, it makes a little more sense. I always assumed that Voyager was deposited somewhere in the middle of the delta quadrent, and that the Bajoran wormhole was somewhere in the middle of the Gamma Quadrent, in fact, in the first Episode, Dax says that they were sent almost 70,000 lightyears through the wormhole. If you go by Star Trek Star charts, it follows that same idea.
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What about a non Federation ship?
I would probably use a Romulan warbird, its big, its bad, and it can hide. Maybe a Vorcha after that since it was built for the long haul, it was built to battle so its extra tough
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Borg Cube or Sphere as we'd be home in time for dinner :funny
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you'd already be home ;)
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I'd take a Galaxy any day. Although I do like the connie the pic shows what would happen.... :P
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Definatly a sovie, she just combines the best of everything!! :D
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If it could be any ship then I'd take V'ger.
Nothing we saw in Voyager would hassle that ship.
And don't forget the TMP Movies had a factor that the rest did not one James.T.Kirk
The borg never bothered the Federation when he was around.
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The borg never bothered the Federation when he was around.
Because both Borg and Federation did not know they even existed yet. :P
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Because both Borg and Federation did not know they even existed yet. :P
Morelike the borg pretended they didn't know about the Federation so they wouldn't get their asses kicked.
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Plus, Kirk would have found some way to seduce the borg queen.
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Plus, Kirk would have found some way to seduce the borg queen.
Hell, if he didn't, I would. :funny
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Plus, Kirk would have found some way to seduce the borg queen.
That or talked them to death.
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Hell, if he didn't, I would. :funny
lol
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Legacy-Class...hands-down, no contest.
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if im allowed, id say the solaris class(i know but still...) for A its got a cloak, B its max warp is warp 9.995, C its got a very good arsenal of weapons and D its multipurpose, and could handle a 70 year trip withought a major breakdown.
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Constellation-class.. because Constellation > Galaxy. :dontcare:
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20051210073922/memoryalpha/en/images/thumb/d/de/USS_Hathaway_attacks_the_Enterprise-D.jpg/292px-USS_Hathaway_attacks_the_Enterprise-D.jpg)
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Constellation-class.. because Constellation > Galaxy. :dontcare:
(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20051210073922/memoryalpha/en/images/thumb/d/de/USS_Hathaway_attacks_the_Enterprise-D.jpg/292px-USS_Hathaway_attacks_the_Enterprise-D.jpg)
ohhh god don't get me started Lionus lol!
You guys all know me... The Galaxy class would be Rifle's ship of choice. Especially if it was this mother!
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n169/Riflemanyo/Bismarck-1.jpg)
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Pfft.. You just can't stand the fact that your beloved Galaxy was getting spanked when Ferengi interrupted the fun.. ;) :D just kidding. But imho, tactics and knowledge how to utilize ships advantages mean a lot more than just relying on superior phaser coverage and firing rate..
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how about a promy , or USS Relativity :evil:
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Considering the trip would take 75 years I would still go for the Galaxy cause it fits the generation ship needs. It has class rooms, living space for familys to grow, learn, die and be replaced with the following generation. The bad part is I imagine this ship is a supply whore so a smaller ship would make it easier on supplies though
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ah... Just like RiffleMan & Metalnick, I vote Galaxy too.... :drink2: ... this is my most... most...x1000 favourite ships for all of the science fiction's ship I ever seen.
Since I though when u go to distance space (soo.... distance) I prefer to prepare for the worst.
Including to solve a difficult space anomaly (en route) that may can eat ur ship :angel (in this case u need a good/large science capability) or to face a strong "first contact" powerfull enemy ... like ... borg (u need a strong ship to withstand under heavy fire :banghead: , while u can't outrun them :dance, or give enough time while thinking how defeat the enemy).
Even though for the worst case that we can't win no matter what, we still can seperate the saucer and battle sect. The battle sect can be use to distract & ram the enemy vessel in hope to destroy or at least disable it, while the saucer can run away. The saucer also can be used as Colony ship in an habitable planet if necessary.
The bigger the ship, the bigger it's potential to carry the most advanced technology even in larger/ grander scale.
Bigger is better... oppsss... the enemy may say the same, bcoz it'll be hard to miss the shoot... :facepalm: cough..cough.... (just kidding) :D
Well still I prefer a hybrid ship that capable for both a strong ship in battle (as Akira or Sovereign) as well as in science (as Nebula), so I shoose ...I mean choose... :D :D :D
Galaxy foreveeeer....... :yay: :thumbsup: ....
hmmm... I even want to bring this ship into another dimension like St*r W*rs or B@Bylon V....
Ah... btw... if possible.. . we can modify the galaxy's hangar to board a or several defiant ship as a fighter... hehehe.... kidding... :D
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The Galaxy class hands down....its got the size to deal with most problems...has a back up warp core ....can seperate if needed to finish the trip on just drive section and its the best damn ship in the fleet....
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Galaxy Class or Soveriegn Class or Century Class...