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Title: Bridge exits to desktop
Post by: danthius on January 18, 2021, 03:14:49 PM
So i am having trouble with a bridge that comes with SPMM
I escorted it into a custom install and took all the custom animations and stuff with it
So the animations are correct and the positions are working just fine
but it exits to desktop when i am looking around (if i keep looking at the viewscreen and acces the helm it doesnt exits to desktop)
The log file mentions something about an interaction but i dont exactly know what is wrong with it
(I guess it refers to the file in Bridge Commander\Data\Animations\console_interaction.Nif but it is exactly the same size as the install where this bridge works without a problem)

So i am in a loss
These are my current Mods : (Without ships and bridges)

I have the KM(from this downloadpage)
Redistribute shields
Captains Orders 0.2
Brex to engineering 1.4
1.1-Repair Destroyed Systems
transport tribbles
captain on the bridge
corepowertobatteryandbackup1.2
enemyfleetorder
neutralfleetorder
overload_systems
heturn 0.3
Install Cloak v0.2
intensive scan v0.3.3
nebulaweapon 1.0
repair destroyed systems



this is my console log...(Hope you guys can help once again or put me in the right direction) Strangly enough i have 2 different Logs while i didnt modify anything in between them  :idk: i post them both :undecided:

LOGFILE 1

Outdated Foundation, updating functions
Outdated Foundation, installing FolderManager
Updating FoundationMenu.ShipMenuBuilderDef
Repairing ship description outputs...
Galaxy Charts v1.5 is online
Tracking Console
Foundation Tech loaded
Gravity FX has been loaded.
Fixing\Enhancing USS Sovereign's mods...
DS9FX Initializing...
Fixing Jaggies
AttributeError: PreLoadAssets
Timed Torpedoes loaded
Setting Stock System Planets Random Density.
SovereignBridge
SovereignBridge
SovereignBridge
SovereignBridge
SovereignBridge
DS9FX: Active and Operational...
Trying to clean memory
Bridge1
Bridge1
Bridge1
Bridge1
Bridge1
Shuttle Launching Framework not loading....bye bye!
Setting Stock System Planets Random Density.
DS9FX: Active and Operational...
AttributeError: ToggleCameraRotation
AttributeError: BridgeHandlers
GravityFX has been deactivated.
Gravity FX has been loaded.

LOGFILE 2


Outdated Foundation, updating functions
Outdated Foundation, installing FolderManager
Updating FoundationMenu.ShipMenuBuilderDef
Repairing ship description outputs...
Galaxy Charts v1.5 is online
Tracking Console
Foundation Tech loaded
Gravity FX has been loaded.
Fixing\Enhancing USS Sovereign's mods...
DS9FX Initializing...
Fixing Jaggies
AttributeError: PreLoadAssets
Timed Torpedoes loaded
Setting Stock System Planets Random Density.
SovereignBridge
SovereignBridge
SovereignBridge
SovereignBridge
SovereignBridge
DS9FX: Active and Operational...
Trying to clean memory
Bridge1
Bridge1
Bridge1
Bridge1
Bridge1
Shuttle Launching Framework not loading....bye bye!
Setting Stock System Planets Random Density.
DS9FX: Active and Operational...
AttributeError: ConsoleInteraction


I took JimmyB´s advice and installed my Mods,Bridges,Ships one at a time and tested them before moving on to the next one
(Spend 12 days on this till now (from 5PM till 11PM in weekends 1PM till 2AM) and i am still planning on doing some hardpoint tweaking  :P ) (dumbass i know)  :hithead:
Title: Re: Bridge exits to desktop
Post by: JimmyB76 on January 18, 2021, 03:52:52 PM
So i am having trouble with a bridge that comes with SPMM
which bridge? (im guessing BCMM's Sovereign Bridge?)
I think you have an old version of the mod which i released when people asked to help beta test and no one ever got back  :idk: :undecided: lol

Look in scripts/Bridge/Characters
Do you have NemSmallAnimations, NemMediumAnimations, NemLargeAnimations scripts?

There might be a conflict with Brex to engineering 1.4, or captain on the bridge, I'm not sure, they are kinda old mods.
Title: Re: Bridge exits to desktop
Post by: danthius on January 18, 2021, 04:30:13 PM
Its still the Olympic bridge i have trouble with
I got the akira to work but this one is really giving me a hard time
But i am not giving up I already gotten further than ever
At first it instantly crashed to desktop...
Then i had an empty bridge
A while later the wrong bridge positions
Now they are at the right positions and pushing buttons so i think i am advancing (I hope)  :funny
(I like those special ones that doesnt look like an other bridge) :D so thats why i am persistend lol
I have the NEM animations you gave them to me a while ago  :wink:
Title: Re: Bridge exits to desktop
Post by: danthius on January 18, 2021, 04:38:31 PM
And yes i beta-test this mod but life got in the way because stuff happend (My mother died, my roof of my house was blown away during a storm, renovations because of this and a depression)
Im still picking up the pieces but ill get there  :)
Title: Re: Bridge exits to desktop
Post by: JimmyB76 on January 18, 2021, 06:57:39 PM
Ok I think I know why Olympic Bridge crashes for you...

check scripts/Custom - do you have a CharacterOverrides folder?

also check data/Animations - do you have any Olym_ anims?
(im guessing you do, but just to be sure)



(on a side note - my deepest condolences to your experiences, i have been through alot of dark rough times in my life;
i know how deeply horrible life can be...   :( :undecided:
i apologize if my quick rant about lack of beta test help way back when seemed personal at you, i didnt mean it like that... there were about 15 others on the beta test team also, i only meant to say in general...)
Title: Re: Bridge exits to desktop
Post by: danthius on January 18, 2021, 07:12:15 PM
Yes i have that folder too and the olympic animations also its just when i look at the characters (except helm) it crashes to desktop and i dont know why
I really want to find out  :help:
And no worries you couldnt have known and i didnt take offense or something like that i just wanted to explain myself  :)
Title: Re: Bridge exits to desktop
Post by: JimmyB76 on January 18, 2021, 07:25:13 PM
hmmm...  well those were my ideas...  maybe BR or Lurok would know more, i do apologize...  you're missing something...
i will get BCMM out as soon as i can, the bridge does work for me...
Title: Re: Bridge exits to desktop
Post by: danthius on January 19, 2021, 08:23:30 AM
I even made a copy of my custom install and copied the files from BCMM (without overwriting) the data and scripts files into this install and still it doesnt work  :banghead:
Then i copied the scripts with overwriting the existing files but then it crashes everything (Like i expected)
Maybe there is a file that is customized  :idk:
Never had a bridge installed with "CharacterOverrides" installed neither :undecided:
Title: Re: Bridge exits to desktop
Post by: danthius on January 19, 2021, 08:29:58 AM
Is BCMM Beta even still available for download anywhere? I cant find these files anywhere on my hard drives only the one i already installed in a BC install
Title: Re: Bridge exits to desktop
Post by: Lurok91 on January 19, 2021, 12:43:16 PM
hmmm...  well those were my ideas...  maybe BR or Lurok would know more, i do apologize...  you're missing something...
i will get BCMM out as soon as i can, the bridge does work for me...

Works fine for me too in KM and whatever we're calling the BCSPMM now  :D

BR is the go-to person who knows how to re-script as separate installs....
Title: Re: Bridge exits to desktop
Post by: danthius on January 19, 2021, 01:21:45 PM
And how did you get your hands on that bridge if its just in your KM install?

I suppose you just copy the Data\Animations and Data\Models\Sets\OlympicBridge and Scripts\Bridge\OlympicBridge and Scrips\Custom\Autoload
And characterOverrides in this case....
Or am i forgetting something?
Title: Re: Bridge exits to desktop
Post by: JimmyB76 on January 19, 2021, 02:25:07 PM
Is BCMM Beta even still available for download anywhere?
Not currently... Soon tho...
Title: Re: Bridge exits to desktop
Post by: Lurok91 on January 20, 2021, 04:53:52 AM
And how did you get your hands on that bridge if its just in your KM install?

Ummm...I made it?  :D  (technically I adapted an existing model which I tried out first in my KM before I ported over to BCMod)
Title: Re: Bridge exits to desktop
Post by: danthius on January 20, 2021, 04:56:29 AM
If its not too much to ask can you send your files to me?
It would save me a bunch of time  :angel2: :D :bow:
Title: Re: Bridge exits to desktop
Post by: Lurok91 on January 20, 2021, 11:34:04 AM
Yes. When you create/contribute something to the community.

That's the way it's always worked  :)    #dontjustask

Title: Re: Bridge exits to desktop
Post by: danthius on January 20, 2021, 12:29:18 PM
I would love to do something for the community here i just dont know what  :undecided:
Its not that i am a scripter or have any skills on bridge modding or else i could have fixed my problem myself.... :idk:
For beta testing a mod i am always open for that but i dont know what else i could contribute  :undecided:
Title: Re: Bridge exits to desktop
Post by: JimmyB76 on January 20, 2021, 12:52:17 PM
Please just stop asking.
It will be available soon, as I have already said like twice now - after I have finished the run-through of the SP episodes.

Title: Re: Bridge exits to desktop
Post by: Lurok91 on January 20, 2021, 12:54:15 PM
I would love to do something for the community here i just dont know what  :undecided:
Its not that i am a scripter or have any skills on bridge modding or else i could have fixed my problem myself.... :idk:
For beta testing a mod i am always open for that but i dont know what else i could contribute  :undecided:

It's not that I wish to be the hardass here...but why don't you try and show us rather than be negative/I can't 'cry' poor me? 

When I joined this site I know nothing/zero. But I wanted to contribute. Learn.

You just seem to want us to sort out everything for you, and I genuinely don't want that to seem harsh but it is getting very tiresome.  Have you no curiosity as to how to BC works?  That's how we all learned  :wink:

Of those of us still here, I imagine we will give you full support if you wish to contribute to BC. If you just want us to fix your personal problems, I'm out. 
Title: Re: Bridge exits to desktop
Post by: Lurok91 on January 20, 2021, 01:01:56 PM
If its not too much to ask can you send your files to me?
It would save me a bunch of time  :angel2: :D :bow:

Either a troll or completely tone-deaf. Neither of which is good.

And  NO
Title: Re: Bridge exits to desktop
Post by: danthius on January 20, 2021, 01:20:54 PM
I think i made the wrong impression on you guys...
Its not that i dont want to learn please dont take it like that
I am eager to learn but sometimes i just need a direction to look at where the error lies...
I dont have an ''poor me'' attitude but if thats what it looks like i apoligize
I even downloaded some programs to learn to mod bridges myself but when i opened the NIF files it gives an error so please dont think that i didnt even try
I dont think anything else can be said
I also apoligize if you feel herassed with my questions 
Title: Re: Bridge exits to desktop
Post by: Lurok91 on January 20, 2021, 01:35:05 PM
Don't waste pointless words

Fix or make something yourself and get back to us. Then we'll know how serious your expressed words are...

if it takes weeks/months, don't worry. Some of us have been here decades


Title: Re: Bridge exits to desktop
Post by: Elijah on January 20, 2021, 03:51:18 PM
[...] So the animations are correct and the positions are working just fine but it exits to desktop when I am looking around (if I keep looking at the viewscreen and access the helm it doesn't exit to desktop)
The log file mentions something about an interaction but I don't exactly know what is wrong with it
(I guess it refers to the file in 'Bridge Commander\Data\Animations\console_interaction.Nif' but it is exactly the same size as the install where this bridge works without a problem) [...]

I did not bother reading the rest of this thread cus some of the replies are kinda silly, but from what you have described here it sounds like something is wrong or you are missing the 'console_interaction.Nif' animation. This is an animation that is probably assigned to a character doing something on the bridge (leaning over and pushing buttons or whatever).

I would look around in the files you are attempting to install and make sure that animation is present.
Title: Re: Bridge exits to desktop
Post by: danthius on January 20, 2021, 05:05:55 PM
I will double check this  :)
Console_Interaction.Nif is present and is the same size as the install that works)
But i will double check the rest of the animations to be 100% sure (I did check the animations but the error must have a cause)
Thank you for your advice
Title: Re: Bridge exits to desktop
Post by: JimmyB76 on January 20, 2021, 07:56:36 PM
I think this thread's purpose has been served.
Working Olympic Bridge will be released with Maelstrom Mod soon.