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		BC Forums => BC Modding => Topic started by: jericho on April 16, 2008, 11:12:32 AM
		
			
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				I was browsing the internet yesterday and came across a nice TNG Oberth design that i thought i could build myself, I belive the modifications to the original oberth where done by Medjai
 
 So Today I have started to build my own version, using his ideas as a point of reference for the build.
 
 Scale I was thinking slighly larger, at 160m
 
 Armourments - will be upscaled but not overly
 
 MutiVector - it will have the ability, tactical purposes asside, once in location, the ship can divide into two in order to speed up the work, whether it be scientific or medical etc.
 
 WIP...
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				very nice, your modeling skill is impressive. good luck on this
			
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				I like the idea of a MVAM medical vessel :)
			
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				It is indeed a very nice start, may I'm allowed to ask after the polycount so far?
 
 I look forword to see more of this one :D
 
 
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				I like the idea of a MVAM medical vessel :)
 
 indeed - that is an interesting idea!
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				Thanks for the support fellas.
 
 I like the idea of a MVAM medical vessel :)
 
 indeed - that is an interesting idea!
 
 
 Yeah I agree, in a science role, the ship breaking up into two to scan seperate asteroids and moons etc.. seems like a quality idea, and medically, splitting up and searching a system for survivors etc.. its quite original, but will have a familiar face.
 
 very nice, your modeling skill is impressive. good luck on this
 
 
 Thanks for the support.
 
 It is indeed a very nice start, may I'm allowed to ask after the polycount so far?
 
 I look forword to see more of this one :D
 
 
 
 
 Of course, the poly count currently sits at 2800. Im going to keep her detailed, but keep the poly limit under 10,000k if possible.
 
 Oh.. and its called David after Kirks son who died in STIII The Search For Spock.
 Im thinking of changing the class name to Reobirth or something or mabey i'll leave it but im open to suggestions.
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				thats a great start indeed :) I like the idea of a medical vessel, there are far to few medical vessels for bc.
 Looking forward to see more :)
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				How about "Hipocrates Class", named after the Hippocratic Oath that all physicians make.
			
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				I suggest the Britannic class after the HMHS Brittanic. Maybe other ships in the class could be named after other hospital ships and famous medical personnel and scientists.
 
 Great idea about the seperation and keep up the good work. BC needs more science vessels. :D
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				I would suggest calling it straight out "David Marcus" because just calling it "David" leaves interpretation wide open.  Or even just USS Marcus as an homage to both David and Carol Marcus.  Genesis may have been a failure, but that doesn't change  the fact that they were accomplished scientists.
			
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				How about "Hipocrates Class", named after the Hippocratic Oath that all physicians make.
 
 that would be better for a didicated medical ship like an olympic.
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				Is this the ship you are baseing your ship on?
 
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				Jericho. I'm thoroughly impressed; Such a low poly count, though I'm already seeing quite a fair bit of detail here. Great work, and superb ideas. I'm really looking forward to future updates.
 
 -Aeries.
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				Thank you all.
 
 and yes, that ship is what gave me this idea.  :)
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				wow thats looking really great.
 will this thing in the front be a shuttle bay?
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				phreaking AWESOME!
			
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				nice..some decent nacelles on it...
			
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				yeah good nacelles, i can see hints of sovvie in them. keep up the good work
			
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				AWESOME!!
			
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				Thanks fellas, yeah their are shuttlebays to the front and port and starboard  :)
			
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				Oooohhhhhh I can't wait to see what you come up with for the secondary hull! :3
			
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				Thanks.. I really think your all going to love the secondary hull idea.. i will be able to post a shot of that tonight 
			
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				Basic shape, im still roughing out here..  so many things to be changed and added.. but the BASIC shape is in place.
			
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				could we get some different views when your more satisfied with the outcome? its rather hard to visualize from this angle. nice work
			
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				definately.. give me an hour .. and thanks 
			
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				OK. so a little more.. it all needs so much work im a little  :( to show early.. but i do like your input..
 
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				wow this looks kewl :)
 but I have a question:
 when seperating, where will it be seperated? already thought about that?
 will i be the discus, or the discus + the connecting wing?!
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				Thats still to be modelled as of yet..
 
 but yet.. the upper pylon on either side will be equipped with a defiant type warp necelle, very slim and low powered.. so from the pylons up will be 1 ship, and from the top of the pylons down will be the other..
 
 I will render seperated shots when the details are modeld
 
 
 thanks
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				Wow, dude. You've really done one of my favorite ships justice! :D
			
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				Im glad you like it.. because i loved this ship from playing SFA on the SNEZ  :D
			
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				this is what the original oberth should have looked like in general. I im digging this design Jericho. I do have one question though what is that circular indent on the saucer rim?
			
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				Could be a docking port.
			
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				spend a couple more polys in these areas to try to smooth it out. looks fantastic, but IMO these spots just dont quite match the rest of the ship in terms of craftsmanship. im curious to see the deflector for this.
			
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				spend a couple more polys in these areas to try to smooth it out. looks fantastic, but IMO these spots just dont quite match the rest of the ship in terms of craftsmanship. im curious to see the deflector for this.
 
 
 Model your own ship, and then come back and tell people how to model :P
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				Looks great
			
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				I'm really liking this one Jericho.  My general question though will the main bussard collectors be animated?    I'm seeing this one as such lol.  Great work on this! COOKIE!
			
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				spend a couple more polys in these areas to try to smooth it out. looks fantastic, but IMO these spots just dont quite match the rest of the ship in terms of craftsmanship. im curious to see the deflector for this.
 
 
 Model your own ship, and then come back and tell people how to model :P
 
 
 >.> perhaps you should let jericho decide whether or not my criticism is acceptable
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				First: If you disagree with my comment Technerd89, take it up with me in a Private Message (not public forums).
 
 Second: (Which is also ON TOPIC) is that I think the U.S.S DAVID is a great design, a worthy successor to the Oberth Class.
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 >.> perhaps you should let jericho decide whether or not my criticism is acceptable 
 
 
 Great idea. It's the job of a staff member to determine if someones post is out of line. Darkthunder, please keep your vigilantism in check.
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				Thanks fellas
 
 update :- smoothed out the secondary hull areas, paying perticular attention, to the deflector rim and the rear underside of hull.. also fixed the bottom of the pylons.
 
 buzzards animated - definately when i learn how :)
 
 Crit - always welcome
 
 support - always welcome
 
 and as for your names suggestions, i have chosen one but will be keeping it close to my chest until the textures are started.
 
 
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				Looking good.  Never been too fond of the Oberth class, but this definitely looks great. :)
			
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				Hmmm...what are those huge ports underneath the warp engines?
			
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				looks really cool, especially with the new scoopy thingies on the pylon connections. :)
			
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				Hmmm...what are those huge ports underneath the warp engines?
 
 
 Aren't those the warp-engines for MVAM?
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				Impulse engines maybe?
			
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				Impulse engines maybe?
 
 
 That's what I was referring to:
 but yet.. the upper pylon on either side will be equipped with a defiant type warp necelle :)
 
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				i think this is the tutorial for animated busards http://bc-central.net/forums/index.php?topic=38.0 ive never done it so i cant say with certainty. im sure some of the guys from 3rd era could help you as they do alot of LCARs animation
			
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				Thanks fellas.. lol and as pointed out they are the mvam warp necelles.. small tidy and tucked away, they like the rest of the secondary still need loads of work, as i dont really like them yet. 
			
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				Drop me a line on MSN if you want help with the Bussard Animations ;)
			
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				Thanks man..
 
 im having trouble with the file.. im trying to open it up and it just keeps up coming up with a diag saying file open failed?? any ideas?
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				Jericho, that would be awesome for the Animated bussards.  And since Lint has offered his help, my help would only be second best LOL.
 
 Good work on this, this will DEFINITELY be downloaded :)
 
 Roger
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				The file is lost  :(
 
 im going to have to start again...  so im gonna work on something new, but definately come back to this idea in the future.
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				You're kidding me....no backups???? :( Man that's a TOTAL bummer!!!!
			
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				I know.. but we shall see her again, probably a litle more refined and looking purdy.
			
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				Awwwwww, Jericho!! That's so sad. Well, second build ought to be even fancier, aye? :D I look forward to the new ship!
			
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				very nice :D will your ship have the Pegasus registry.?
			
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				this project is on hold, probably indefinitely as he lost the file. its been several weeks since then