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BC Forums => BC Bridge Modding => Topic started by: FarShot on June 14, 2008, 02:55:25 AM
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On the cover of Bridge Commander, and in the manual, there is a detailed picture of Saffi, on the right side. I was wondering if an accurate model for her was in the works.
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first off... welcome to the forums (dont know if you have been welcomed as yet but there we are)
so to answer the question.. in short no. we're not using the BC bridge crew in excalibur.
and as far as i know 3rd era doesnt have any plans to make one. but that doesnt stop anyone else from doing so of course.
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On the cover of Bridge Commander, and in the manual, there is a detailed picture of Saffi, on the right side. I was wondering if an accurate model for her was in the works.
aye, welcome to the forum and all that..
But seriously dude, the words "sexy" and "saffi" are like "fun" and "run"...they simply DO NOT go together!! ever! :mrgreen:
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Suggestion
-Get Half-Life 2
-Get GMOD
-Make a Saffi model
-Use GMOD for what its good for, complete and total f***ery of characters models (exmaples include: launching them off custom made catapaults, strapping them to things used for propulsion, IE Petrol barrels, experiments using a bath tub, bombs, Gravity Gun)
In short, GMOD is great for stress relief. Someone should make a Saffi model for it. Would give me a way to get rid of pent up anger, lols.
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Yeah and make her talking "We should not fire on friendly target captain" every 2 seconds :D I would use a combination of gravity gun and saw blade :D I love HL2 :P Someone should really make TMP/TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT crews the way EF2 crew was done ;)
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But seriously dude, the words "sexy" and "saffi" are like "fun" and "run"...they simply DO NOT go together!! ever! :mrgreen:
What he said.
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Sexy huh? Don't know what you've got on your mind but if they can make a nude patch for Lara Croft
they can do one for Saffi (change the face too so you have something good to look at). Though some
may find it inappropriate to have naked commanders running around their bridge unless of course you're
a Ferengi; females don't deserve the right to wear clothing.
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I guess you don't really get it...
I wish I had a good picture, but I don't, so I'll say it again.
Saffi, on the Bridge Commander box cover, actually looks GOOD. Her name is still Saffi, but she looks sexy enough. All the mods over at BCFiles are just really skins, but since the guys over at ST Excalibur (which is why I put this there) got good models over onto BC, I thought "Hey, since they got these over, maybe they can change around someone's head." I'm no good, at least yet, so I though I'd ask. Her head looks like Telsia's on the cover, so maybe a retex could be in order... Just wondering if anyone was doing it, because the only good bodies came from the guys at Excalibur.
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This Saffi right?
(http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/5871/5d82d6407vy7.jpg)
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Yeah! There's a good pic! Now if you could zoom in on her face... (and her chest... :D)
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(http://i29.tinypic.com/4iyblz.jpg)
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What's wrong with the EF2 Saffi? It matches her personality. :P
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Yeah! There's a good pic! Now if you could zoom in on her face... (and her chest... :D)
umm dude :? - it's a computer character... lol j/k :P
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Well nowadays people are making robots that you can actually have a relationship
with. Eventually they're going to phase out the rubber love dolls. Isn't science and
technology wonderful?
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They aren't that far, and you will always be able to practicly predict (or rather, determine) their response. Or you will find it "uncanny". Either way, no real interaction.
For "true" interaction, you need atleast something that isn't deterministic (or so advanced, and so complex, that we can't phantom it, such as the brain really).
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i dunno, i just find it strange that people can be like attracted to computer characters or drawings of them or something lol
nothing against the thread author or anything - to each his own of course! :)
but i am just a bit :lostit at the idea someone would consider a BC character "sexy" lol
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I do grant you that, but the entire "fandom" of things like "anime" are based on something quite similar.
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aaah lol this is true :P
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Does anyone else think that EF2 Saffi looks a bit like Megan Fox? or is that just me lol
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Well nowadays people are making robots that you can actually have a relationship
with. Eventually they're going to phase out the rubber love dolls. Isn't science and
technology wonderful?
just a thought, but.... um... real chicks? :lol:
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Well nowadays people are making robots that you can actually have a relationship
with. Eventually they're going to phase out the rubber love dolls. Isn't science and
technology wonderful?
just a thought, but.... um... real chicks? :lol:
qft - thats what i was getting at lol
an attraction to things that are not alive or even real (such as computer characters) i find disturbing lol
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Yeah and make her talking "We should not fire on friendly target captain" every 2 seconds :D I would use a combination of gravity gun and saw blade :D I love HL2 :P Someone should really make TMP/TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT crews the way EF2 crew was done ;)
Just delete the audio file.
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Wow... a simple question about whether or not a Sexier Saffi might be in the works... and we go into cultural mumbo jumbo. Lol. I've been using KRT Bearable Saffi, but that cute little nose is getting annoying, and the Asian-ish one in the EF2 crew isn't much better.
To let anyone know, I had a girlfriend half a year ago (we both have gone our seperate ways) who was s*** hot, with a nice rack. :lol: :king
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lol - i was just busting your chops mon ami :P :D
and the EF2 crew in BC can be switched around - if you dont like the default EF2 Saffi in BC, you can choose from other heads/bodies to switch from; it just takes a little bit of scripting... and its possible another head/body may not have a Commander rank on the collar, but if you can overlook that, you can switch her out for any other EF2 character in BC...
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Is this a real character modding discussion or should I dump it in the Freepost forum?
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well, if FarShot is unhappy with the EF2 Saffi, he can replace her with any of the other EF2 models provided for BC...
or, if he is asking that a new model be made so it looks like the Saffi that is on the cover of the manual of BC; well then chances are that it wont happen unless he learns to do all the character modeling himself lol
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*sigh* Time to peruse all those poorly organized tutorials, figure out scripting and such. Be done in a few months, lol.
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Well, there aren't any tutorials out there for tihs, yet.
But start looking around at the EF2 scripts and other "uniform" mods (since that's what the EF2 crew mod is).
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FarShot - do you have EF2 Crew installed?
replacing/switching BC's EF2 crew just takes a little bit of tinkering...
or do you mean youd rather replace Saffi altogether?
(sorry im slow sometimes lol)
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Well nowadays people are making robots that you can actually have a relationship
with. Eventually they're going to phase out the rubber love dolls. Isn't science and
technology wonderful?
just a thought, but.... um... real chicks? :lol:
yeah, fapping to a garbled mess of pixels is kinda...pathetic? :roll:
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Does anyone else think that EF2 Saffi looks a bit like Megan Fox? or is that just me lol
Nope. Saffi looks more like someone who has just started coming down from a drug trip (have you seen those blotchy red rings around her eyes when she blinks, lol?)
Face it. The day that Saffi will ever be sexy also happens to be the day when blaXXer orders a army of psychotic tuna to sing the canadian national anthem, backwards, while trying to work out in precise detail the future of human evolution.
I keep my imagination active. God bless beer.
(I vote this thread be moved to FreePost, and that blaXXer becomes king of the whole world and half of Mars, lol)
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just a thought, but.... um... real chicks? Laughing
No way. I want them to make a synthetic Saffi and she can be my love mistress.
She will respond to my every need. Hopefully, they'll program her to cook too.
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KRT Bearable Saffi is...well, bearable. She's modelled after Eva Longoria, so it's not a bad thing. At least she freaking smiles as opposed to "SUCKIN' UP 2 PICARD, WANT UR JOB" Saffi.
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Does anyone else think that EF2 Saffi looks a bit like Megan Fox? or is that just me lol
Nope. Saffi looks more like someone who has just started coming down from a drug trip (have you seen those blotchy red rings around her eyes when she blinks, lol?)
Face it. The day that Saffi will ever be sexy also happens to be the day when blaXXer orders a army of psychotic tuna to sing the canadian national anthem, backwards, while trying to work out in precise detail the future of human evolution.
I keep my imagination active. God bless beer.
(I vote this thread be moved to FreePost, and that blaXXer becomes king of the whole world and half of Mars, lol)
I DEMAND MARS IN IT'S ENTIRETY!
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just a thought, but.... um... real chicks? Laughing
No way. I want them to make a synthetic Saffi and she can be my love mistress.
She will respond to my every need. Hopefully, they'll program her to cook too.
that is a very strange thought lol :P
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FarShot - do you have EF2 Crew installed?
replacing/switching BC's EF2 crew just takes a little bit of tinkering...
or do you mean youd rather replace Saffi altogether?
(sorry im slow sometimes lol)
Yes, I do, but I still don't get why her name is Alexander Munro. I took a look at the script, and I was just crazy. I've never scripted before. So unless you can guide me through it, I'll have to learn from scratch. The EF2 crew looks fine, except that their names are wrong (and weird) and that I don't like how Kiska looks. Plus Saffi.
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Those names are the EF2 names.
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Does anyone else think that EF2 Saffi looks a bit like Megan Fox? or is that just me lol
Nope. Saffi looks more like someone who has just started coming down from a drug trip (have you seen those blotchy red rings around her eyes when she blinks, lol?)
Face it. The day that Saffi will ever be sexy also happens to be the day when blaXXer orders a army of psychotic tuna to sing the canadian national anthem, backwards, while trying to work out in precise detail the future of human evolution.
I keep my imagination active. God bless beer.
(I vote this thread be moved to FreePost, and that blaXXer becomes king of the whole world and half of Mars, lol)
I DEMAND MARS IN IT'S ENTIRETY!
To bad its all mine! #loveFFX#
Those names are the EF2 names.
I thought those names were from Exc?
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no, they are the EF2 crew names...
as far as her name being "Alexander Munro", there is a way to change it...
if you use a TGL Editor (like the one at BCFiles), open Data/TGL folder and open Elite Force II Character Status...
youll see "XO" (line 5 ) and next to that says what the character's name... if im not mistaken, thats all you need to do to change the name of the character...
or, turn off the ToolTips option in the configuration menu when you load BC...
as far as switching out the heads/bodies, that takes a few more steps...
all the chief character scripts are in scripts/bridge/characters - look for saffi.py and open it...
look for -
CharacterPaths.UpdatePaths()
# Create the character
App.g_kModelManager.LoadModel(CharacterPaths.g_pcBodyNIFPath + "../Excalibur/starfleet/starfleet-base-female", "Bip01")
App.g_kModelManager.LoadModel(CharacterPaths.g_pcHeadNIFPath + "../Excalibur/starfleet/female-head01.NIF", None)
pSaffi = App.CharacterClass_Create(CharacterPaths.g_pcBodyNIFPath + "../Excalibur/starfleet/starfleet-base-female.nif", CharacterPaths.g_pcHeadNIFPath + "../Excalibur/starfleet/female-head01.NIF", 1)
pSaffi.ReplaceBodyAndHead(CharacterPaths.g_pcBodyTexPath + "../Excalibur/starfleet/female_bodies/female-red_body.tga", CharacterPaths.g_pcHeadTexPath + "../Excalibur/starfleet/female_faces/female01_head.tga")
all the nifs and such are located in data/Models/Characters/Excalibur/starfleet... looking around in there, youll find all different ones to choose from... so basically where it says "../Excalibur/starfleet/female-head01.NIF", change the female-head01.nif to something else... do they same for the other paths in that script to call for other things...
btw, pSaffi.ReplaceBodyAndHead(CharacterPaths.g_pcBodyTexPath + "../Excalibur/starfleet/female_bodies/female-red_body.tga", where it says "female-red_body.tga", that describes what color uniform the character has... there is also female-yellow_body, female-blue, etc also...
after playing around a bit, and seeing how the script is lined up to call for each thing, it is a matter of trying things out until youre happy with what you like...
also, the other place to change the path in the script to call for something else, is just below that area i posted above...
look for -
# Load Saffi's general dialogue lines.
LoadSounds()
pSaffi.AddFacialImage("Blink0", CharacterPaths.g_pcHeadTexPath + "..\Excalibur\starfleet\female_faces/female01_head.tga")
pSaffi.AddFacialImage("Blink1", CharacterPaths.g_pcHeadTexPath + "..\Excalibur\starfleet\female_faces/female01_head.tga")
pSaffi.AddFacialImage("Blink2", CharacterPaths.g_pcHeadTexPath + "..\Excalibur\starfleet\female_faces/female01_head.tga")
pSaffi.SetBlinkStages(3)
pSaffi.AddFacialImage("SpeakA", CharacterPaths.g_pcHeadTexPath + "..\Excalibur\starfleet\female_faces/female01_head.tga")
pSaffi.AddFacialImage("SpeakE", CharacterPaths.g_pcHeadTexPath + "..\Excalibur\starfleet\female_faces/female01_head.tga")
pSaffi.AddFacialImage("SpeakU", CharacterPaths.g_pcHeadTexPath + "..\Excalibur\starfleet\female_faces/female01_head.tga")
pSaffi.SetAnimatedSpeaking(1)
and change "..\Excalibur\starfleet\female_faces/female01_head.tga" to something else (just make sure you do it for each line)...
and not every EF2 character for BC is perfect, some of them have weird slight texture glitches; so it is a matter of trial and error until you get what you like...
i know this is poorly explained, im a bit tired at the moment and am thinking quickly...
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Those lines are actually all there is to it.
Personally, they explain all the basics you need to know about uniforms.
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Thanks for you guys FINALLY answering my question! :lol:
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we're a slow bunch :P
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Ok, here's what I did.
(http://i30.tinypic.com/2eolk4j.jpg)
(http://i28.tinypic.com/2e6eff8.jpg)
(http://i30.tinypic.com/25hcmxk.jpg)
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Ok, here's what I did.
(http://i30.tinypic.com/2eolk4j.jpg)
(http://i28.tinypic.com/2e6eff8.jpg)
(http://i30.tinypic.com/25hcmxk.jpg)
wow can you relese thoes
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nope, i dont think they allow mods to the Elite Force crew.
Check your PM's, cakuzma.
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IIRC, releasing modded EF2 crews was disallowed, as it's not actually their own works but a port.
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Plus various mesh errors, etc.
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Wow, Saffi looks sexy now. If she wasn't against the right of free opinion expression I would invite her to dinner.
(note: just to avoid misunderstandings: no, this isn't supposed to be sexistic)
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Aside from that, it was just a test. Also, you need BPUniforms to really make use of it (if you were ask me that is).