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Title: Installation Problem
Post by: CaptainGalaxy on August 09, 2008, 07:58:38 AM
While installing Star Trek: Bridge Commander I came across a terrible problem. 20% into the installation it stops. I believe it stops at the file called Movies I think. Please help me solve this problem. Ask me if you need any more details and I shall give you them.
Title: Re: Installation Problem
Post by: MLeo on August 09, 2008, 09:37:07 AM
Is the disk scratched?
Is the disk dirty (if it is, carefully clean it with a fibreless cloth and non-abravsive(sp) cleaner, google around to make sure)?

Does it install on other computers?

Can you copy the entire disk to HDD without problems?
Title: Re: Installation Problem
Post by: CaptainGalaxy on August 09, 2008, 03:41:45 PM
I mannaged to get another BC to work but now I am having another problem. I start the game, play it, etc... but the next time I start the game the screen just stays black. Is there anyway I can solve this problem?
Title: Re: Installation Problem
Post by: MLeo on August 09, 2008, 06:21:23 PM
Is there the yellow BC cursor?
If there is, then get us a console report.
Otherwise, have you tried pressing "Enter".
Or if that didn't work, try Alt+Tab untill you see a BC icon, go there, and take a screenshot of that (and post it here after you saved it as an image in Paint).

And if that failed, make sure that you aren't attempting to run 2 BC's side by side, that won't work.
Title: Re: Installation Problem
Post by: tiqhud on August 09, 2008, 07:08:57 PM
I mannaged to get another BC to work
Where did you manage to get it from so fast?
Title: Re: Installation Problem
Post by: Picard_1 on August 10, 2008, 12:58:31 AM
Burn your copy of BC as an iso file and mount it as a virtual drive using Daemon tools or similar
virtual drive software, then try to install BC from your virtual drive.
Title: Re: Installation Problem
Post by: MLeo on August 10, 2008, 09:03:43 AM
Burn your copy of BC as an iso file and mount it as a virtual drive using Daemon tools or similar
virtual drive software, then try to install BC from your virtual drive.
Basicly, this is the same thing as copying your CD to HDD, if that copying fails, then creating an iso from it will also fail.
Title: Re: Installation Problem
Post by: lint on August 10, 2008, 09:07:21 AM
i smell an illegal download
Title: Re: Installation Problem
Post by: MLeo on August 10, 2008, 09:11:51 AM
i smell an illegal download
Actually, to "burn your copy as an iso file" is creating a backup disc, using Nero Burning Rom speak.
It includes an option to copy a disc to an iso file.
Title: Re: Installation Problem
Post by: lint on August 10, 2008, 09:24:30 AM
i stand corrected
Title: Re: Installation Problem
Post by: CaptainGalaxy on August 10, 2008, 09:45:13 AM
They don't make BC any more and the ones I got fro Ebay don't work and Spain doesn't get good service so basicly I have no way of getting it except for downloading it. What's the point in downloading something that shouldn't be downloaded when the creators don't care about the game any more?

The copy I downloaded is the one with the start-up problems. Would that have any effect on the way I start up the game. The first time I started it it started by itself just after I extracted all the files but then the only other way to start it is to go to Program Files/Acitivision/Bridge Commander and start it from there. Is there any way to start it other than from there?
Title: Re: Installation Problem
Post by: lint on August 10, 2008, 09:48:30 AM
create a shortcut on the desktop??
Title: Re: Installation Problem
Post by: CaptainGalaxy on August 10, 2008, 09:56:56 AM
I tried that. After I put the shortcut on the desktop it just says it can't work in some way. I am going to have a look see now to get you a better description.

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Okay, I'm back. I created a shortcut the simple way (Clicking the icon to start it and clicking Create Shortcut). It looks like it has something to do with the startup icon itself. Is there some way to startup to game without using that exact icon?
Title: Re: Installation Problem
Post by: Picard_1 on August 10, 2008, 04:47:05 PM
Discussion of nocd hacks etc is forbidden.
El

In regard to your comment:

Quote
What's the point in downloading something that shouldn't be downloaded when the creators don't care about the game any more?

Hence the term pirating. This is like asking, "Why do people steal." If people want something bad enough and don't want to pay for it, they'll find a way to get it. Additionally, it's not that the developers don't care about the game anymore, it's that the software may have become Abandonware: Software that is no longer available for legitimate purchase after a certain age. However, the rights to that software don't simply disappear. Rights may transfer to another company long after the original company has broken up or gone bankrupt. Despite this fact, copyright laws protect the owner's rights and are enforceable by law.
Title: Re: Installation Problem
Post by: MLeo on August 10, 2008, 05:25:25 PM
It isn't Totally Games to publish the game, that's Activision.
Next, it's a game from 2002.
Then, Activision doesn't even have the Star Trek licence anymore, so they can't anyway.



Lastly, discussing warez (illegal things) is explicitly forbidden on these forums, so don't bother asking for no-cd patches and where or how to find downloadable copies on these boards!
Title: Re: Installation Problem
Post by: CaptainGalaxy on August 11, 2008, 06:26:27 AM
Discussion of nocd hacks etc is forbidden.
El


Could you explain in better detail? I'm not sure I understand.
Title: Re: Installation Problem
Post by: starfleetcommand3 on August 11, 2008, 02:31:02 PM
Burn it to a CD. Once the CD is done, the CD Player will open. Uninstall then reinstall BC. Test it if it works.
Title: Re: Installation Problem
Post by: CaptainGalaxy on August 11, 2008, 03:45:56 PM
Okay, I'v got the downloaded version working swell now. Now I have a problem with installing mods. I start the game after (Trying) to install a mod and the same black screen thing happens again only this time there is a yellow curser.

The Mod I downloaded is GalaxyCharts and Unified Main menu.

Is there the yellow BC cursor?
If there is, then get us a console report.
Otherwise, have you tried pressing "Enter".
Or if that didn't work, try Alt+Tab untill you see a BC icon, go there, and take a screenshot of that (and post it here after you saved it as an image in Paint).

And if that failed, make sure that you aren't attempting to run 2 BC's side by side, that won't work.

Here are some pics of my directories:
(http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/1989/veryimportant1ou5.png) (http://imageshack.us)
(http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/1989/veryimportant1ou5.a316b93dc7.jpg) (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=379&i=veryimportant1ou5.png)

Here is the Scripts Directory:
(http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/4084/veryimportant2jl4.png) (http://imageshack.us)
(http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/4084/veryimportant2jl4.0b48a13461.jpg) (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=364&i=veryimportant2jl4.png)

I hope that gives you info that might help solve my problem.

Maybe it would be best if someone gave me exact instructions on how to install mods?
Title: Re: Installation Problem
Post by: Kirk on August 11, 2008, 03:51:46 PM
I have read that downloaded copies of BC don't work, and quite frankly I am surprised this thread hasn't been locked down yet.
I hope that gives you info that might help solve my problem.
Nope, but a console report will. (As mentioned in the quote you included.)
Maybe it would be best if someone gave me exact instructions on how to install mods?
Did you even read the readme?
Title: Re: Installation Problem
Post by: MLeo on August 11, 2008, 05:23:53 PM
I'll tell you from your scripts directory that you didn't install the Foundation.

First install the patch (1.1, _NOT_ 1.2, which isn't a patch at all) then the Foundation, and then you can more or less safely install mods.
Title: Re: Installation Problem
Post by: Picard_1 on August 11, 2008, 09:18:54 PM
CaptainGalaxy,

We realize that you're enthusiastic about getting BC up and running but you need to slow down and have some patience. First, you need the BC 1.1 patch and second, you need Foundation before anything will work.

There are several programs that will install foundation for you but the latest software is USS Sovereigns Bridge Commander Ship Menu Creator or BCSMC 5.6. Basically, it's an all in one ship definition, sound def, tgl description editor all in one.

Additionally, some mods may not work even after installing foundation. As such, I have found that the best mods are KM .91 and KM 1.0. They have less bugs and are more compatible with mods as I'm sure most board members here will agree.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Installation Problem
Post by: CaptainGalaxy on August 12, 2008, 04:55:18 AM
I have read that downloaded copies of BC don't work, and quite frankly I am surprised this thread hasn't been locked down yet.
I hope that gives you info that might help solve my problem.
Nope, but a console report will. (As mentioned in the quote you included.)
Maybe it would be best if someone gave me exact instructions on how to install mods?
Did you even read the readme?

Well, I would send one if I knew what a console report was, and YES I read the readme. I just says to download the things, install these other few things using BCMI or BCMP but I don't really know how to use them. Let's say that there is a yellow curser now (Which there is) when I start it up along with the black screen. What is the significance of the yellow curser?
Title: Re: Installation Problem
Post by: starfleetcommand3 on August 12, 2008, 10:16:35 AM
I have the same download you have. (Don't ban me please) Get BCMI and set it to your BC directory. (Of course, Fresh install) a window comes up saying you haven't install the foundation. Click Ok then it will install. After its done, Add any mods you want. (expect Slipstream and Galaxy Charts).
Title: Re: Installation Problem
Post by: El on August 12, 2008, 02:09:01 PM
Locked.

Since none of you can read, particularly the forum rules, you have earned the following;
starfleetcommand3
CaptainGalaxy

Since neither of you have a legal copy of BC you are banned.

Picard_1

Discussion of nocd hacks is still warez and a breach of the forum rules.
3 day comment ban

El